Nvidia and AMD Anti-Aliasing and SweetFX Guide

[Sizustar]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xQ0Evt_e1Y"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xQ0Evt_e1Y


Not sure why Frap is taking a bigger hit on my new GPU now..
Maybe I should upgrade the rest of my rig...

[Rexob]

Bah...I might have to go tweak my game a bit with the SweetFX after seeing that, maybe not...you're running a gtx 780 lol...I have the 660ti, but could probably do some tweaking.

[Aeris]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xQ0Evt_e1Y


Not sure why Frap is taking a bigger hit on my new GPU now..
Maybe I should upgrade the rest of my rig...

Fraps does use quite a lot of cpu power when i use it sometimes to record especially on higher resolutions and fps along probably along with increased graphics with games.

[Sizustar]

Fraps does use quite a lot of cpu power when i use it sometimes to record especially on higher resolutions and fps along probably along with increased graphics with games.

But I never lost 20~30 FPS before, only about 10 FPS previously...wwww

[Aeris]

But I never lost 20~30 FPS before, only about 10 FPS previously...wwww

Lol, i wonder what hardware you run on for this settings, i try them out once i get a better computer.

[Cyron Tanryoku]

Looks like RadeonPro stopped working for PSO2 for me

[Chik'Tikka]

You know, SweetFX thru Radion Pro works on 64 bit games to I believe, where as the InjectSMAA version does not+^_^+
i also have a question, do you "have" to launch via RadeonPro?? i like the item translation the Tweaker has and those only work by launching PSO2 via the tweaker +^_^+

[Misaki Ki]

No, you just need to have it running. It's just easier to see if you can get it working by launching with it since it has a higher chance to hook, but once you're all set up you can use tweaker.

[Chik'Tikka]

got any suggestions for a lightweight screenshot program?? RadeonPro's built in crashes games (not just PSO2), Raptr only takes jpeg (eww) and Afterburner/Rivatuner, fraps, dxtory takes it's shots *before* the post processing filters are applied +^_^+
EDIT, recording won't show either...

[Misaki Ki]

Try loading fraps after you start the game.

You'll probably have to disable UAC's dim screen if you have that on.

[Chik'Tikka]

yeah that worked, but i lose my OSD FPS monitor in the process, figured out that RadeonPro's injector is being applied before any other hooking monitoring app, trying to see if there's a way to switch that around so rivatuner hooks on top of radeonpro, seen YouTube of people with it working and showing OSD plus SweetFX +^_^+ you suggestion is for me short term at best, but at least i can take easy screens and recordings for comparison/demonstration purposes+^_^+ TY

[Horosha_Onikage]

Anyone mind sharing their settings files? I want to try the settings you guys have.

[Chik'Tikka]

Trying to nail that Borderlands look......
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@Horosho, here's mine, i started with what Zyrusticae said he had for DPX and changed things from there, I changed Rc Gc Bc to .30 each in the sweetfx notepad settings.txt. here's snips of the rest, cause RP won't export settings, crashes instead +^_^+

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http://i.minus.com/ibmVRVgT967QwG.PNG
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keep in mind everyone's monitors are different, some monitors will show very little effect from HDR, while others may show alot for instance, contrast also varies between monitors and setups, like mine is quite bright, and even these settings are a little too bright for me, trying to darken it still without ruining the snappy colors DPX gives me +^_^+ i also did what Zyrusticae did and copied the specific shaders for DPX, Dither, and curves from version 1.5, kept 1.4 for HDR and everything else +^_^+

[Sizustar]

SweetFX updated to 1.5.1(Not sure if it'll work with Radeon Pro.

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=381912

Version 1.5.1

LumaSharpen in 1.5 still had some experimental code activated when it should not have. Fixed that.
Changed some code and settings to workaround a bug in SweetFX Configurator. The configurator should now work fine with SweetFX 1.5.1
The Custom shader now have some more interesting example code that inverts the luma of the image, and it now has an example setting.

[Omega-z]

I'm wondering if any of this could help out any of you with this persons work?
http://www.pso-world.com/forums/showthread.php?t=214870

[Sizustar]

I'm wondering if any of this could help out any of you with this persons work?
http://www.pso-world.com/forums/showthread.php?t=214870

We already did it and tried it out back in August.
http://www.pso-world.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3015798&postcount=447

We're just currently focusing on SweetFX.

[Sizustar]

Hmm...
Tried to get more contrast with LEVEL, but it's not really working for me.
So SweetFX that I"m using is t hese
HDR+LumiaSharpen+CineonDPX+Curve+Dither - Average FPS 60+ at 1080P, will try at higher resolution when I go SLI next week.
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1440P with no SweetFX[SPOILER-BOX]
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1440P+SweetFX(Same setting for 1080P looks...different) - FPS 42[SPOILER-BOX]
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Combined AA at 1440P[SPOILER-BOX]
http://i.imgur.com/6zEu1X6.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

Combined AA + SweetFX @ 1440P - FPS 20[SPOILER-BOX]
http://i.imgur.com/UbC75Z5.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

[Afin]

Hello! I don't mean to burden anyone with questions but I thought i'd ask.

i'm trying to use sweetFX, since that's what i see people mainly talking about in recent pages, and the screenshots i've seen look awesome

is there some guide or tutorial that i can follow to set this up successfully for pso2?
i used the sweetFX configurator, selected the pso2.exe file in pso2_bin, and checked a bunch of configuration options for the game. however... ingame i see no difference, even when clicking the hotkey button to turn sweetFX on and off.

i'm not sure what i'm doing wrong? is it because i use the tweaker to launch?
(i'm using nvidia gtx series btw)

[Preposterous Rhino]

Hmmmm so RadeonPro will work on Nvidia cards for injecting SweetFX? I might come back to this game now that the NA release is looking more bleak than ever. I will create a profile and share it here when I do. In general, I don't like to deviate too far from what the game is supposed to look like. Sometimes, I go crazy tough haha. Let me share an example of a profile I made for Sonic Generations in case anybody is interested.

Before: [SPOILER-BOX]http://abload.de/img/screenshot44999cuw2.png[/SPOILER-BOX]

After: [SPOILER-BOX]http://abload.de/img/screenshot4611w6z97.png[/SPOILER-BOX]

I will either do some small tweaks for personal taste that doesn't deviate far from the intended look of the game, or I will go crazy haha. We will see.

[Afin]

disregard my last post, i figured it out

sweet fx 1.5 didn't work for me, so i am currently using 1.4

uh... i also get gameguard kick after five minutes. but once i get that solved things should be fine (we can't get banned for using this, right? '_')

Before & After:

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I am gonna continue testing and tweaking it. I don't really like the current contrast I have going on '_'

[Sizustar]

GeForce 331.58 WHQL Driver released
http://www.guru3d.com/files_details/geforce_331_58_whql_driver_download.html


disregard my last post, i figured it out

sweet fx 1.5 didn't work for me, so i am currently using 1.4

uh... i also get gameguard kick after five minutes. but once i get that solved things should be fine (we can't get banned for using this, right? '_')

Before & After:

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http://i.imgur.com/gqvFjQP.png[/spoiler-box]

I am gonna continue testing and tweaking it. I don't really like the current contrast I have going on '_'

Use RadeonPro and you can use the shader from 1.51.

[KuroNeko77]

I can't get 1.51 to work either, and I'm using RadeonPro with the latest Catalyst (getting a "post processing is not available" message in-game with those).

[Sizustar]

I can't get 1.51 to work either, and I'm using RadeonPro with the latest Catalyst (getting a "post processing is not available" message in-game with those).

You just copy the shader you want from 1.51 to the 1.4 shader folder, you don't use 1.51 file, except the shaders.

Lavendy is still testing out AO bit.
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http://lavendy.net/pso2/photo/2013/130930_7.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

http://lavendy.net/pso2/2013/09/pso2_custom_ambient_occlusion.html

[Afin]

GeForce 331.58 WHQL Driver released
http://www.guru3d.com/files_details/geforce_331_58_whql_driver_download.html



Use RadeonPro and you can use the shader from 1.51.
alright, cool thanks.

also do you have a suggestion about the gameguard kicks? i can't seem to figure out how to beat it '_'

[UMVC3_Wolverine]

GeForce 331.58 WHQL Driver released
http://www.guru3d.com/files_details/geforce_331_58_whql_driver_download.html



Use RadeonPro and you can use the shader from 1.51.

Performance any good? I'm still rocking 326.19 those gave me a nice boost of FPS over every other driver infact haven't changed them since lol.

[Sizustar]

alright, cool thanks.

also do you have a suggestion about the gameguard kicks? i can't seem to figure out how to beat it '_'

Are you using RadeonPro to start the game?
If you are, it shouldn't give any problem.


Performance any good? I'm still rocking 326.19 those gave me a nice boost of FPS over every other driver infact haven't changed them since lol.

I'm able to get around 50~60 FPS on 1440P
But AO seems different.
Seems like Quality AO setting = the new HBAO+, and performance is the old AO, not sure about High Quality though.

[Zyrusticae]

Performance is the old AO? Interesting, never tried it since I don't need the extra FPS.

High Quality is also HBAO+. Honestly, I don't know if there's any difference between the Quality and High Quality settings as of right now. If there is, the difference is too small to detect.

HBAO+ at the Quality setting is such a big quality jump that it isn't even necessary to go any further than that anyway. It's a massive improvement over the old shader in physical accuracy and noise reduction. Unfortunately, that realism comes at the cost of character lighting (it's far less noticeable on characters than before), so if you liked the more stylized look you'll have to stick with the Performance setting or older drivers.

[Sizustar]

Performance is the old AO? Interesting, never tried it since I don't need the extra FPS.

High Quality is also HBAO+. Honestly, I don't know if there's any difference between the Quality and High Quality settings as of right now. If there is, the difference is too small to detect.

HBAO+ at the Quality setting is such a big quality jump that it isn't even necessary to go any further than that anyway. It's a massive improvement over the old shader in physical accuracy and noise reduction. Unfortunately, that realism comes at the cost of character lighting (it's far less noticeable on characters than before), so if you liked the more stylized look you'll have to stick with the Performance setting or older drivers.

Just wondering, do you have Vsync on or off?
And I'll be able to go SLI tomorrow, so I'll see if I lose FPS when recording, currently at 1440P, FPS go from 66~67 > 15~20. Does the 1gb Vram really matter that much?(Went from 670 4gb to 780 3GB)

[Zyrusticae]

Right now, I have Vsync off and just cap the framerate at 60. Though I still tend to notice tearing during the slower bits, I generally prefer the lower input latency over having no tearing.

The 1GB VRAM really shouldn't matter for PSO2. In fact, the only game where I actually go over 3GB VRAM usage is heavily modded Skyrim, and that's about as ridiculously over-the-top as you can get graphics-wise (besides maybe modded GTA IV).

[Preposterous Rhino]

I now have the new SweetFX and SMAA guide in the original post. Took me a lot longer to make than I thought it would :p

[ieptav]

Having a slight issue getting radeonpro to work with my game. Whenever I launch the game, pso2.exe disappears from my task manager and sweetfx doesn't hook it. The game itself works fine.

Any ideas on what could be causing this?

[Preposterous Rhino]

Having a slight issue getting radeonpro to work with my game. Whenever I launch the game, pso2.exe disappears from my task manager and sweetfx doesn't hook it. The game itself works fine.

Any ideas on what could be causing this?

Do you have the game installed in a location that requires administrator privileges? I had to run RadeonPro as Administrator because I have PSO2 installed in my Windows 7 partition (I'm using Windows 8 right now).

Oh, did you set RadeonPro up correctly with the launcher? If you don't set it up with the launcher, it won't work.

[ieptav]

Do you have the game installed in a location that requires administrator privileges? I had to run RadeonPro as Administrator because I have PSO2 installed in my Windows 7 partition (I'm using Windows 8 right now).

Oh, did you set RadeonPro up correctly with the launcher? If you don't set it up with the launcher, it won't work.

In the C: drive alongside other games that work fine. There might be an issue if it is supposed to let me bypass the launcher, as starting from radeonpro just launches the launcher.

Also my invisible pso2.exe is a recent issue, as yesterday the launcher was telling me I was already running pso2.exe even though I couldn't see it in the task manager.

[Preposterous Rhino]

In the C: drive alongside other games that work fine. There might be an issue if it is supposed to let me bypass the launcher, as starting from radeonpro just launches the launcher.

Also my invisible pso2.exe is a recent issue, as yesterday the launcher was telling me I was already running pso2.exe even though I couldn't see it in the task manager.

It isn't supposed to bypass the launcher, the wording you used made me unsure if the launcher was showing up at all haha. Look to see if gameguard is running when PSO2 isn't. If it is, force it to close.

[Zyrusticae]

If in doubt, just use PSO2 Tweaker to "Fix Gameguard errors", reboot your PC, and then try again. That usually fixes the issue for me.

[ieptav]

If in doubt, just use PSO2 Tweaker to "Fix Gameguard errors", reboot your PC, and then try again. That usually fixes the issue for me.

I actually did that to solve a recent gameguard crash/bsod issue, but it looks like I'm not the only one with this issue atm.

http://www.pso-world.com/forums/showthread.php?t=214916

Edit:

It works now.

[Preposterous Rhino]

Is anything missing in the guide or does anybody have anything they would like me to add to it?

[Sizustar]

Is anything missing in the guide or does anybody have anything they would like me to add to it?

You can use Shaders from SweetFX 1.5/1.51, if you just copy the individual shader from 1.51 to the 1.4 shader folder.
Vibrance, Lumia, DFX can work with 1.51 ver.

Lavandy seems to be using these bits.
Can you guys try them out too?

AO bit
0x000C000F

AA Bit
0x004F12C1 - Combined
0x004018C1 - Extreme

Lavandy Advanced setting - Quality AO - FPS 60~70[SPOILER-BOX]
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Lavandy Combined Setting - Quality AO - FPS - 60
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Old AA - Quality AO - FPS - 90
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[TaigaUC]

The last time I tried any tweaks on my Nvidia card, I was getting inconsistent frame rate and extreme lag in places like the Ruins boss field. I assume it was having trouble anti-aliasing the flower billboards.

Nobody else having issues like that?

[Preposterous Rhino]

The last time I tried any tweaks on my Nvidia card, I was getting inconsistent frame rate and extreme lag in places like the Ruins boss field. I assume it was having trouble anti-aliasing the flower billboards.

Nobody else having issues like that?

That's because the previous tweak murders performance, and game effects make it worse. SweetFX with SMAA has a pretty small impact on performance. If you use overkill values for SMAA, you will probably see GPU usage go up about 5-10%/ frame rate will drop 10-15ish fps. For me, the SGSSAA hurts my system too much overall with sweetfx too, so I use smaa now. A good test of how your computer will perform in PSO2 is that first warp screen before you pick your character. If you hold 60fps during that, you should be good to go for pretty much any realistic situation in the game.

[TaigaUC]

Ah, thanks. Nice name, by the way.

[Metis]

None of the settings are taking effect in the game, everything is still the same as always. I am launching the game by pressing Play inside RadeonPro, and the profile is obviously for pso2.exe in pso2_bin. Launcher is PSO2 Tweaker.

What am I missing?

[Sizustar]

None of the settings are taking effect in the game, everything is still the same as always. I am launching the game by pressing Play inside RadeonPro, and the profile is obviously for pso2.exe in pso2_bin. Launcher is PSO2 Tweaker.

What am I missing?

Use the default PSO2 launcher, not the tweaker.
And try it in admin mode.

[Metis]

Use the default PSO2 launcher, not the tweaker.
And try it in admin mode.

Already tried using the PSO2 launcher instead, also tried running it in admin mode.

[Preposterous Rhino]

Already tried using the PSO2 launcher instead, also tried running it in admin mode.

Hmmmm. If you followed the steps exactly, it should work perfectly fine. Go back through them and make sure you did everything right.

[Afin]

None of the settings are taking effect in the game, everything is still the same as always. I am launching the game by pressing Play inside RadeonPro, and the profile is obviously for pso2.exe in pso2_bin. Launcher is PSO2 Tweaker.

What am I missing?

do you have a sweetfx toggle key set? make sure you set a toggle key and then press that key when you're ingame.

[Metis]

do you have a sweetfx toggle key set? make sure you set a toggle key and then press that key when you're ingame.

Yeah, I tried that as-well. But it wasn't just sweetfx, there was no smaa effect either.

In any case, I'll redo all the steps and hopefully it will work.


EDIT: Did the steps again and it finally worked, not sure what was missing since I did it all exactly the same, but who cares *_*

[Preposterous Rhino]

Yeah, I tried that as-well. But it wasn't just sweetfx, there was no smaa effect either.

In any case, I'll redo all the steps and hopefully it will work.


EDIT: Did the steps again and it finally worked, not sure what was missing since I did it all exactly the same, but who cares *_*

I'm happy you got it working :D

[Sizustar]

New Nvidia Driver 331.65
http://www.guru3d.com/files_details/geforce_331_65_whql_driver_download.html

New feature in Nvidia Experience
Nvidia Shadow play, supposedly a capture tool that has very little performance effect.
Will need to test to see.

[Zyrusticae]

Holy shit it WORKS!

The best part is you can just keep it running while you game, and when you need to save something you just hit alt+f10 (or whatever your binding is) to save the last 10 minutes of gameplay.

60 FPS recording, hardly any performance impact, and you only save what you want to save (as opposed to having to save everything you record, you can just keep it running while you play without having to worry about using up valuable disc space). This is glorious! GLORIOUS!

[Sizustar]

Odd, it's not working for me.
hmm..seems to be full screen mode only?
Virtual fullscreen doesn't count.

[Zyrusticae]

Yeah, full screen only right now. They might add windowed support later on... then again, they might not.

I do know they're adding support for twitch streaming (with microphone and webcam input) down the road, however. Not really relevant for PSO2, but it's something.

[Sizustar]

Nvidia Shadowplay test at 2025P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFFGepVIgL4"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFFGepVIgL4

[Foslix]

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first time using radeon pro while having nvidia and wondering how do i get the game to run sweet fx with it tried pressing play on it and it gave me this error box :-?

[Sizustar]

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first time using radeon pro while having nvidia and wondering how do i get the game to run sweet fx with it tried pressing play on it and it gave me this error box :-?

Try it with admin mode?

[Misaki Ki]

I'm not sure what causes that yet, so I don't have a specific fix. If running as admin doesn't work (It doesn't for me) try the following.

Uninstall RadeonPro, and have it delete your profile and settings. Reinstall, and start over again.

[Preposterous Rhino]

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first time using radeon pro while having nvidia and wondering how do i get the game to run sweet fx with it tried pressing play on it and it gave me this error box :-?

Run RadeonPro as Admin. I had to do that too. I didn't include it in the guide because my game is installed in a separate OS partition and any program accessing anything in there requires administrator privileges, so I assumed that was the issue. Hopefully that fixes it for you.

[Foslix]

Run RadeonPro as Admin. I had to do that too. I didn't include it in the guide because my game is installed in a separate OS partition and any program accessing anything in there requires administrator privileges, so I assumed that was the issue. Hopefully that fixes it for you.

tried that but the radeon pro now doesn't run it seems to hate running in admin toggled it on and off and it only works without it then run into the same prob ^^;

[Preposterous Rhino]

tried that but the radeon pro now doesn't run it seems to hate running in admin toggled it on and off and it only works without it then run into the same prob ^^;

For me, it only gives me a pop-up saying that it doesn't like compatibility mode, but I can click yes and it starts up for me. I don't see how running it as admin will make anything not work lol.

[Sizustar]

tried that but the radeon pro now doesn't run it seems to hate running in admin toggled it on and off and it only works without it then run into the same prob ^^;

PC spec?
Window ver?
Nvidia driver ver?

[Cyron Tanryoku]

I'll wait for shadowplay to work in virtual. In the mean time, I'll stick with Fraps


I do know they're adding support for twitch streaming

Not really relevant for PSO2
Totally relevant to me, I could go for something that works 100% so I can get some good frames. Xsplit only seems to work screen capture, and that doesn't stay consistant >_>

[Zyrusticae]

Anyone else suddenly having trouble getting RadeonPro (or FRAPs, or anything) to work in the game?

I did my usual routine when this happens but it's not taking.

[Cyron Tanryoku]

I'll check when I get on later

[Preposterous Rhino]

I'll wait for shadowplay to work in virtual. In the mean time, I'll stick with Fraps



Totally relevant to me, I could go for something that works 100% so I can get some good frames. Xsplit only seems to work screen capture, and that doesn't stay consistant >_>

Try out this http://obsproject.com/. Completely free and open source. It has better compatibility for me in other games, but I haven't tried it in PSO2.

EDIT: Just tested it out. It works perfectly in full screen mode. It doesn't capture SweetFX though. Only way to capture SweetFX would be to play in virtual fullscreen and capture the screen rather than the game. That will be true for every video capture program unless RadeonPro does streaming later on.

[Zyrusticae]

Nevermind, I had to fix RadeonPro's SweetFX settings (they reset for some unfathomable reason that I'm still unsure of).

It doesn't capture SweetFX though. Only way to capture SweetFX would be to play in virtual fullscreen and capture the screen rather than the game. That will be true for every video capture program unless RadeonPro does streaming later on.
FYI, Shadowplay has no issues capturing SweetFX (yes, I tested it myself). For that matter, FRAPS works for me, too, although obviously the performance impact is enormous.

[Cyron Tanryoku]

Only way to capture SweetFX would be to play in virtual fullscreen and capture the screen rather than the game. That will be true for every video capture program unless RadeonPro does streaming later on.
Dang.

Speaking of SweetFX
I don't really do much with it =w=
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[Reiashi]

So..has anyone got this working on an AMD card yet?

[Preposterous Rhino]

So..has anyone got this working on an AMD card yet?

RadeonPro is made specifically for AMD cards lol. It should definitely work on your card. The shocking part is that it works on Nvidia cards :p

[Reiashi]

RadeonPro is made specifically for AMD cards lol. It should definitely work on your card. The shocking part is that it works on Nvidia cards :p

You'd think that, but when I launch PSO2 from the Radeonpro launcher, I get no OSD HUD, no SweetFX, no nothing and I've set it all up as shown in the guide. I have 0 clue how to get it working.

[Preposterous Rhino]

You'd think that, but when I launch PSO2 from the Radeonpro launcher, I get no OSD HUD, no SweetFX, no nothing and I've set it all up as shown in the guide. I have 0 clue how to get it working.

Double check to make sure you set the correct path for the application. I'm not sure what else could be wrong.

[Sizustar]

Double check to make sure you set the correct path for the application. I'm not sure what else could be wrong.

Try earlier version of Sweetfx?

[Preposterous Rhino]

Try earlier version of Sweetfx?

They said nothing is working in RadeonPro though, so I don't think it is SweetFX that is messing up.

[bitCrusher]

[SPOILER-BOX]http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w489/Ensteleon/notsurewhereitwentwrong_zps13df26e4.png (http://s1078.photobucket.com/user/Ensteleon/media/notsurewhereitwentwrong_zps13df26e4.png.html)[/SPOILER-BOX]

first time using radeon pro while having nvidia and wondering how do i get the game to run sweet fx with it tried pressing play on it and it gave me this error box :-?

getting the same error no matter what I do. Admin mode doesn't seem to do anything for me

[Misaki Ki]

[SPOILER-BOX]http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w489/Ensteleon/notsurewhereitwentwrong_zps13df26e4.png (http://s1078.photobucket.com/user/Ensteleon/media/notsurewhereitwentwrong_zps13df26e4.png.html)[/SPOILER-BOX]

first time using radeon pro while having nvidia and wondering how do i get the game to run sweet fx with it tried pressing play on it and it gave me this error box :-?

getting the same error no matter what I do. Admin mode doesn't seem to do anything for me

There's no start parameters there, PSO2 requires launching a certain way due to using a launcher.

Open up an command prompt with administrator rights, enter in:

SETX -pso2 +0x01e3f1e9

Then reboot your computer. Then use the following start parameter:
+0x33aca2b9

You don't need to launch PSO2 from RadeonPro actually, it just needs to be running. I just had the highest success getting it to hook from launching in it, so it was easier to test there.

[bitCrusher]

hmm, still not working.

and if I start PSO without RadeonPro (I mean starting it with through the Launcher and Radeon running in the background), SweetFX doesn't work

[Reiashi]

Finally got it working. Apparently virtual full screen is what shot me in the foot. So now the question is does anyone know what ambient occlusion bits in radeonpro while using an AMD card can get me something like Sizu has?

[Remz69]

Finally got it working. Apparently virtual full screen is what shot me in the foot. So now the question is does anyone know what ambient occlusion bits in radeonpro while using an AMD card can get me something like Sizu has?

i have no problem with virtual full screen
i tried some things but couldn't get any AO, at all, or if i did it was too insignificant for me to notice it

i'd test some more
but i probably got a failing component (only answer i can find to all those different random bsods I'm getting) so testing things ain't my priority right now

[Sizustar]

New GeForce 331.82 WHQL Driver
http://www.guru3d.com/files_details/geforce_331_82_whql_driver_download.html

[Preposterous Rhino]

So I can't get radeonpro to hook pso2 at all now. I haven't been playing much, so I don't know if an update broke compatibility, but I thought I would ask if anybody has/had the same problem and got it to work?

[Zyrusticae]

It's still working for me. Sometimes a reboot fixes it. It's really weird, because rebooting will fix it even when I don't actually do anything to the files. Don't know WTF Gameguard is doing there.

[Preposterous Rhino]

Hmmm alright. I'll give that a shot next time I want to play. I think a reboot fixed it for me in the past but I didn't realize that's what did it till you mentioned it :p

[shagia]

Deleted my last message because I just gave up on RadeonPro and just kept with SweetFX.

I messed around with SweetFX for a while and here's some (ugly) screenshots that came up.

[SPOILER-BOX]
4xFXAA+Bloom+HDR w/ Splitscreen (Left = Dry, Right = Wet)

http://i.imgur.com/IzrwPwW.png

http://i.imgur.com/GpEUsrx.png

No Splitscreen:

http://i.imgur.com/HxS5CBp.png

http://i.imgur.com/KPiAsXX.png

The distortion is awful, but I'm just gonna keep messing around with SweetFX to see how I can get a better image that can stand out without distortion, which is possible, I just took giant shits around parameters. I would try the Cartoon shader but that gives the text a weird outline which can be fixed by using a small amount of the shader. :mad:[/SPOILER-BOX]

I'm not sure why though, but it keeps crashing every three minutes (http://i.imgur.com/3JyAOBF.jpg) and giving me a NP1013 error, which actually could be MSI Afterburner. In the past, it wouldn't work, but now it's been working recently but now it could be causing the game to crash. I'll try it later once I find a top-level screenshot program since I run the game in Virtual Fullscreen. (Virtual Fullscreen / Borderless Windowed mode is probably the best thing that has ever been made in PC development existance. It's easier to alt+tab!)

[Zyrusticae]

You can't use SweetFX without RadeonPro: that error is Gameguard kicking you out (NP stands for "nProtect" which is the company that maintains Gameguard) and the only way to get around it is to use RadeonPro instead.

[shagia]

That explains why then..gahhh

I'll see what I can figure out with RadeonPro, I still keep getting the same error message from RadeonPro, even when applying the launcher in the launcher tab and running through a shortcut. Giving admin privileges doesn't help out sadly.

http://i.imgur.com/8USH3tC.png

I'm willing to bet I'm just missing something that's obvious..

[final_attack]

^ tried run as admin?

[shagia]

^ tried run as admin?


Giving admin privileges doesn't help out sadly.
that and it actually gives me this warning..

http://i.imgur.com/JagNHIZ.png

[Psycl0ne]

that and it actually gives me this warning..[/FONT]

http://i.imgur.com/JagNHIZ.png

it gave me that warning as well when trying to run as admin, I clicked yes and ran PSO2 within RadeonPro and everything worked fine for me.

[Psycl0ne]

besides running RadeonPro with administrator privileges, I also added the pso2launcher.exe to the Triggers tab in my pso2 profile.. hope that helps.

Windows 8 64bit

[shagia]

Alright, I tried running it with Admin Privileges again, and I got the same message. Closed it, started it again with Admin Privileges, it worked. weird.

Well, now it actually works and it isn't crashing anymore. Now I just need to figure out how to get SSAO working since that causes the game to crash whenever it's activated.. X/

[gigawuts]

Cool, I gave this radeonpro stuff another shot and it finally worked - it was the commandprompt restarting thing that fixed it.

So, my computer isn't that spectacular anymore, and that's fine because I don't care about AA or anything. I want to tweak colors though.

Is there a way to change these settings and have them go into effect without restarting the game? What are some good options to do tinker with contrast and saturation? I've looked things up and, well, settings like "Cartoon" means nothing to me. If I had a menu with Contrast and Saturation listed I'd be fine, but instead I'm looking at things like "Cineon DPX."

edit: Actually, it looks like Cineon DPX gives me most of what I want, barring making the text crazy.

edit2: I figured out a bit of these filters, and it looks like tonemap is what I want. Too bad gameguard fires off an NP1013 error less than 2 minutes after I launch PSO2 now despite my having changed absolutely nothing but tinker with effects, even if everything is disabled.

edit3: Okay cool so now I get error 1013 even without radeonpro or sweetfx - even after a reboot.

edit4: The game is running fine again, but I'm not bothering with radeonpro right now. I rebooted with all services disabled and kept running into various appcrash errors, so I deleted everything in PSO2's bin folder besides the data folder and redownloaded all of that stuff (various exes, gameguard, etc.) via Aida's tweaker and the official game launcher itself. Maybe tomorrow I'll pick up radeonpro again since I did get it to look pretty nice, but tonight I'm tired.

[Preposterous Rhino]

Cool, I gave this radeonpro stuff another shot and it finally worked - it was the commandprompt restarting thing that fixed it.

So, my computer isn't that spectacular anymore, and that's fine because I don't care about AA or anything. I want to tweak colors though.

Is there a way to change these settings and have them go into effect without restarting the game? What are some good options to do tinker with contrast and saturation? I've looked things up and, well, settings like "Cartoon" means nothing to me. If I had a menu with Contrast and Saturation listed I'd be fine, but instead I'm looking at things like "Cineon DPX."

edit: Actually, it looks like Cineon DPX gives me most of what I want, barring making the text crazy.

edit2: I figured out a bit of these filters, and it looks like tonemap is what I want. Too bad gameguard fires off an NP1013 error less than 2 minutes after I launch PSO2 now despite my having changed absolutely nothing but tinker with effects, even if everything is disabled.

edit3: Okay cool so now I get error 1013 even without radeonpro or sweetfx - even after a reboot.

edit4: The game is running fine again, but I'm not bothering with radeonpro right now. I rebooted with all services disabled and kept running into various appcrash errors, so I deleted everything in PSO2's bin folder besides the data folder and redownloaded all of that stuff (various exes, gameguard, etc.) via Aida's tweaker and the official game launcher itself. Maybe tomorrow I'll pick up radeonpro again since I did get it to look pretty nice, but tonight I'm tired.

None of the effects in SweetFX are particularly intensive. If you can run PSO2 fine without sweetfx, you should be able to run it fine with it too. Vibrance is saturation (or de-saturation if you use negative values) and Curves is contrast. I don't know if the splitscreen option works in this game, but you can set that while you are testing to see the difference as you go (or you can hit the toggle key). Be careful adjusting contrast and color too far off though. It might look good in the areas you test it in, but it might look really bad in others, so keep that in mind and don't veer too far from the defaults with those. Of course this is all up to you, so have fun with it haha.

[Zyrusticae]

Since the notes on the DPX shader are incomplete, here's what I've found from testing:



/*-----------------------------------------------------------.
/ Cineon DPX settings /
'-----------------------------------------------------------*/
#define Red 8.0 //[1.0 to 15.0]
#define Green 8.0 //[1.0 to 15.0]
#define Blue 8.0 //[1.0 to 15.0] These three affect the contrast or range of each color channel. Higher numbers = more contrast. I usually crank these all up to 15.

#define ColorGamma 2.5 //[0.1 to 2.5] Adjusts the colorfulness of the effect in a manner similar to Vibrance. 1.0 is neutral. I prefer to use this instead of saturation because it maintains the neutral greys instead of color casting them.
#define DPXSaturation 3.0 //[0.0 to 8.0] Adjust saturation of the effect. 1.0 is neutral.

#define RedC 0.36 //[0.20 to 0.60]
#define GreenC 0.36 //[0.20 to 0.60]
#define BlueC 0.34 //[0.20 to 0.60] These affect the 'grey point' of each color channel. Lower values = higher (brighter) grey point, higher values = lower (darker) grey point and thus higher contrast.

#define Blend 0.2 //[0.00 to 1.00] How strong the effect should be. At higher blend values, the image becomes brighter and more saturated (though this also depends on the other settings - I tend not to go past 0.5 in any situation). This setting also appears to set the 'white point' of the image.

[Preposterous Rhino]

Since the notes on the DPX shader are incomplete, here's what I've found from testing:

Yeah in my experience messing with them, it is essentially a more complex Vibrance control haha.

[Kikikiki]

For whatever reasons, RadeonPro will not apply settings when I run PSO2.

[Preposterous Rhino]

For whatever reasons, RadeonPro will not apply settings when I run PSO2.

If it has for you in the past, try restarting your computer. Actually, try restarting your computer anyway. Sometimes it just won't hook and a restart will do it. If it still doesn't work after you restart, double check the steps to make sure you have it setup correctly. It probably wouldn't hurt to add exceptions into your antivirus software either.

[Kikikiki]

If it has for you in the past, try restarting your computer. Actually, try restarting your computer anyway. Sometimes it just won't hook and a restart will do it. If it still doesn't work after you restart, double check the steps to make sure you have it setup correctly. It probably wouldn't hurt to add exceptions into your antivirus software either.

I have been having this issue ever since the second latest update and all of the actions you've listed don't help. At all.

It worked fine before that.

[Preposterous Rhino]

I have been having this issue ever since the second latest update and all of the actions you've listed don't help. At all.

It worked fine before that.

That's strange. I have periods where it doesn't work for me but then it works fine. Yesterday (or the day before I can't remember) it didn't work at all, but today it works just fine. I really don't know what is causing it to conflict.

If anybody else has any ideas, please share haha.

[Psycl0ne]

I noticed when taking a picture with radeonpro, sweetfx doesn't show on the screenshots... anybody know how to capture it or do I need another software to take pictures with?

[Preposterous Rhino]

I noticed when taking a picture with radeonpro, sweetfx doesn't show on the screenshots... anybody know how to capture it or do I need another software to take pictures with?

That's weird, I took the screenshots in the guide using RadeonPro.....at least I think I did. The only other way I know of is to use virtual window mode/window mode and take the screenshot that way.

[sol_trigger]

---------------------------
Error
---------------------------
"Phantasy Star Online 2" does not correspond to the OS of your computer.
---------------------------
OK
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when i click play

[Preposterous Rhino]

---------------------------
Error
---------------------------
"Phantasy Star Online 2" does not correspond to the OS of your computer.
---------------------------
OK
---------------------------


when i click play

O_o.......that's bizarre. What did you do? lol. What OS do you have?

[sol_trigger]

win7 ultimate 64 bit , VGA : HD 7850

happens when i click play

http://s20.postimg.org/jeimiv2z1/radeon.jpg

[sol_trigger]

game started by changing pso2 launcher to pso2 tweaker

however there is no difference in game at all , to be short : this doesnt work

[Preposterous Rhino]

game started by changing pso2 launcher to pso2 tweaker

however there is no difference in game at all , to be short : this doesnt work

I don't know why it messes up, but sometimes it does. If it is worth it to you, try going to services and stopping RadeonPro and starting it again. You can also restart your computer and try again. For some reason it won't hook sometimes, but it will other times. I have been trying to figure it out but can't seem to pin the problem. Obviously it is up to you if it is worth the hassle.

[yunamon]

It seems Radeon Pro interferes with GeForce Experience, causing the latter to "closed due to unexpected blah blah blah". I wanna use Shadowplay and SweetFX at the same time T^T

[sol_trigger]

I don't know why it messes up, but sometimes it does. If it is worth it to you, try going to services and stopping RadeonPro and starting it again. You can also restart your computer and try again. For some reason it won't hook sometimes, but it will other times. I have been trying to figure it out but can't seem to pin the problem. Obviously it is up to you if it is worth the hassle.


i have done it 7 8 times already...

is there any other ways than this tool ?

[Preposterous Rhino]

i have done it 7 8 times already...

is there any other ways than this tool ?

Sadly no....at least not that I have heard of. I believe RadeonPro has a pretty advanced hooking method (I have no idea what goes on behind the scenes with that) so that Gameguard won't pick it up. RadeonPro is the only known method so far. I wish Gameguard wouldn't be so sensitive since this isn't a hack (and doesn't detect the same as real hacks would) and I REALLY don't know why Sega went with Gameguard...again.

Another thing you can try (even though RadeonPro screams at you for it) is running RadeonPro in administrator. If that doesn't work after a few tries, idk what to suggest. Maybe somebody else will have a few ideas, but that's all I've got.

On a related note, the guy who made RadeonPro is currently working on a huge revamp for the tool so that could potentially fix all the issues....it could also not work for Nvidia entirely :p

EDIT: I am gonna play around with RadeonPro and see if I can figure out a solution to the problem. I'll edit this post if I figure something out.

EDIT 2: So I disabled advanced D3D9 hooking and it hooked the very first try and hasn't booted me off yet. I think I have been on for around 15 minutes, which is much longer than it normally takes for gameguard to kick you off for using sweetfx without RadeonPro. If anyone else has issues where sweetfx never/rarely hooks, try it out and let me know if it works. The option is in settings under general. It is a checkbox you need to select.

[Psycl0ne]

hmmm those of you who are having problems aren't doing something right.... I am using windows 8 64 bit and so far it never crashed on me, it always works.. I even started using it outside of pso2 with a lot of other games :D.. I love it!

[Preposterous Rhino]

hmmm those of you who are having problems aren't doing something right.... I am using windows 8 64 bit and so far it never crashed on me, it always works.. I even started using it outside of pso2 with a lot of other games :D.. I love it!

I made the guide and it doesn't hook for me on occasion :-? I have no idea why it will mess up. I am using Windows 8.1 64 bit (had the same problems prior to the .1 update as well).

[Psycl0ne]

I made the guide and it doesn't hook for me on occasion :-? I have no idea why it will mess up. I am using Windows 8.1 64 bit (had the same problems prior to the .1 update as well).

:/ strange, do you run it with the regular pso2 launcher?.. also did you go into RadeonPro's propertys and select to always run as administrator?

[Preposterous Rhino]

:/ strange, do you run it with the regular pso2 launcher?.. also did you go into RadeonPro's propertys and select to always run as administrator?

I have to run it as administrator for some reason (the game nor the launcher are running as admin :-?). Same result with the games normal launcher and the custom one. There may be some conflicting software that I haven't noticed I have had running while trying to play the game with SweetFX though. It is possible that disabling the advanced D3D9 hooking can fix it though.

[Psycl0ne]

I have to run it as administrator for some reason (the game nor the launcher are running as admin :-?). Same result with the games normal launcher and the custom one. There may be some conflicting software that I haven't noticed I have had running while trying to play the game with SweetFX though. It is possible that disabling the advanced D3D9 hooking can fix it though.

hmmm I haven't messed with D3D9 or the other settings yet so that might be.. I launch my game with the regular pso2 launcher through radeonpro and I always have the FPS counter displayed so I know it's running from the start... another thing I did even though I doubt it even does anything, I added the pso2launcher.exe to the Triggers tab in the pso2 profile.. :nerd:

[Preposterous Rhino]

hmmm I haven't messed with D3D9 or the other settings yet so that might be.. I launch my game with the regular pso2 launcher through radeonpro and I always have the FPS counter displayed so I know it's running from the start... another thing I did even though I doubt it even does anything, I added the pso2launcher.exe to the Triggers tab in the pso2 profile.. :nerd:

During one of the periods where it simply wouldn't hook, adding the launcher to the triggers didn't fix it. I think restarting my PC is what fixed it for me (however I have also restarted my PC and that didn't fix it). It is baffling. I do think it is likely that the D3D9 hooking could simply not work sometimes, which is why disabling the more advanced method might get it to work.

[sol_trigger]

EDIT 2: So I disabled advanced D3D9 hooking and it hooked the very first try and hasn't booted me off yet. I think I have been on for around 15 minutes, which is much longer than it normally takes for gameguard to kick you off for using sweetfx without RadeonPro. If anyone else has issues where sweetfx never/rarely hooks, try it out and let me know if it works. The option is in settings under general. It is a checkbox you need to select.

tried this too but still didnt work +_+

man i hope this tool gets update soon

[Preposterous Rhino]

tried this too but still didnt work +_+

man i hope this tool gets update soon

The update has been in the works for months, so I doubt it will take much longer. Purely speculation though as nothing has been said for a while.

[PandoraFX]

Um.. help? I get this every time i start up PSO2 with SweetFX from the RadeonPro shortcut.[SPOILER-BOX]http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj93/ShenonReduxZ/Help_zps742e73b6.png[/SPOILER-BOX]
Does somebody know how to get around this? It is driving me crazy..

Edit 1: Seems like i've made it worst, the game doesn't want to start anymore, welp time to play PS Vita version until someone helps me get SweetFX working.

[TakuBeardedOne]

If you turn on the fps counter, you can see it right at the start. if my fps counter isn´t showing, i know it hasn´t hooked up

and my settings for sweetfx and radeon pro
[SPOILER-BOX]http://puu.sh/6KmlX.png
http://puu.sh/6Kmmr.png
http://puu.sh/6Kmoe.png
http://puu.sh/6Kmo0.png
http://puu.sh/6Kmoe.png
http://puu.sh/6KmpQ.png
http://puu.sh/6Kmrb.png
http://puu.sh/6KmrL.png
http://puu.sh/6KmsJ.png
http://puu.sh/6KmBh.png[/SPOILER-BOX]


and the result:

[SPOILER-BOX]http://puu.sh/6Klvd[/SPOILER-BOX]

[Yamashii]

Hey! I've been playing with Radeon Pro myself for a bit and I found an effective way to allow it to hook PSO 2 as of now with SweetFX in tact.

Basically, I followed this suggestion I found in the "How to launch PSO2 directly" thread but modified one step slightly...


Just found out that under "My Computer" > Properties > Advanced System Settings > Environment Variables > System Variables you can set -pso2 as a variable with the value of +0x01e3f1e9. From there, you can get steam to run pso2.exe directly with the +0x33aca2b9 flag. Works for me under Win7 64bit.

EDIT: Whoops, forgot to mention. After setting the system variable, make sure to restart so that windows adds it to its running list of variables.

Basically, I followed the Environment Variables portion, then in the "startup parameters" for Radeon Pro I used "+0x33aca2b9".

Note this is compatible with PSO Tweaker as your launcher too, or at least it works for me.

Here's hoping that helps you guys. :)
(Sorry if I'm late to the party or this isn't helpful... I'm trying, dangit... Dx)

[Skywolf]

Can anyone help, i have set everything up in nvidia inspector like in the first post, how ever in game, i can tell the AA is working cuase it looks amazing: http://i.imgur.com/mzJ4VyY.png

however, the text in game is really blurry: http://gyazo.com/e1aedee4b8cc8a44a3a48f157df7bf17

The picture doesn't really get it across too well, but it is a lot blurrier with Nvidia inspector AA on,.

Doe's anyone know how to fix this? or at least sharpen the text a bit?

Edit: my computer specs: http://static-cdn.jtvnw.net/jtv_user_pictures/panel-36023837-image-fbbb78702782c14d-320.png

I've upgraded the 560ti to a 770, but other then that every things the same.

[NexusAZ]

Can anyone help, i have set everything up in nvidia inspector like in the first post, how ever in game, i can tell the AA is working cuase it looks amazing: http://i.imgur.com/mzJ4VyY.png

however, the text in game is really blurry: http://gyazo.com/e1aedee4b8cc8a44a3a48f157df7bf17

The picture doesn't really get it across too well, but it is a lot blurrier with Nvidia inspector AA on,.

Doe's anyone know how to fix this? or at least sharpen the text a bit?

Edit: my computer specs: http://static-cdn.jtvnw.net/jtv_user_pictures/panel-36023837-image-fbbb78702782c14d-320.png

I've upgraded the 560ti to a 770, but other then that every things the same.

Make sure the in-game AA is disabled.

[The_Brimada]

I kinda regret not upgrading my card to Nvidia now.

[Excaerious]

My issues have been vastly different than the majority here. My RadeonPro hooks perfectly 100% of the time and I know such since I have been leaving my FPS counter on for testing. However, none of the AA settings seem to do much of anything. SweetFX has impact as I can see the different in Vibrancy immediately, but I am still stuck with horrible PSO2 aliasing.

Things to note is that I do have a 280x and not an Nvidia card, so I am using RadeonPro as my front-end and directly using it's Visual tab to configure my settings.

This is the mess I am left with:

[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.imgur.com/d70Ht0f.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

Even with the downsampling of the photo via imgur, I think you can tell it looks like for the lack of a better phrase, like ass.

Settings:

[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.imgur.com/7zigWeI.png[/SPOILER-BOX]

No amount of any setting changes has shown any difference in game (which is why some of them are little screwy). I'll note that I do have CCC (Catalyst Control Center) in addition to RadeonPro but since RadeonPro is controlling via application profile it shouldn't matter, at least according to random google searching. Also, my AA in game is completely off.

Thoughts?

[Skywolf]

If anyone can help me get SweetFX working, that'd be great. I'd like to put support for it in the Tweaker, but I can't get it to work at all =/

Yes please ><

[Excaerious]

After much obsessing, I figured out the answer to my own problem. On page 29 a user explains that forcing AA via RadeonPro has exactly 0 effect when it comes to using an AMD card, which is a shame really. Additionally, since you can't really mess with compatibility bits for forcing AA with an AMD card using RadeonPro or CCC there is seemingly no fix. It should be noted, that for an AMD card you will never get any better than simply being able to use SweetFX in game. You will always have to deal with terrible aliasing it seems.


If anyone can help me get SweetFX working, that'd be great. I'd like to put support for it in the Tweaker, but I can't get it to work at all =/

The hooking through RadeonPro seems to only 100% work all the time with an AMD card (which is ironic considering much of the use of RadeonPro in this instance is forgone since you can't force AA modes for PSO2 through it). So, I would assume you have an Nvidia card? Regardless, if you followed the steps given in the first page, that's all there is really. Make sure all the executables are admin-righted, and if you're using shortcuts make sure those are admin-righted.

The easiest way to note if RadeonPro has hooked is turn on the FPS counter. It will show immediately after you have started the game in the designated corner. I am using your Tweaker as my launcher and it shows after pressing play using it. Turning on the OSD should yield similar results, showing you if RadeonPro at least thinks it's running. Additionally, make sure you set up shortcut keys for all settings you plan on using. SweetFX is very noticeable when it's running with vibrancy setting on, so you should really know if it's working or not in that regard.

[jooozek]

it doesn't hook up for me, i've added the sys variable, added the startup paraemeter but none of the shaders work but the game launches succesfully when i click "Play" in radeonpro, using an HD 7750
the ctrl+s text doesn't show at all
edit: nevermind, it hooked now after i ran radeonpro as admin and i see the sweetfx txt after ctrl+s, but no effects show
edit2: forgot i need to use outdated sweetfx, now it works greatly, even works with the item patch from twerker (which i forgot to screenshot):
[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.imgur.com/ZPmE4YG.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]
edit3: tho im getting lots of NP1013 or something so its out of question for me i guess
edit4: exact error dialog
http://i.imgur.com/Hwct30A.png

[Excaerious]

it doesn't hook up for me, i've added the sys variable, added the startup paraemeter but none of the shaders work but the game launches succesfully when i click "Play" in radeonpro, using an HD 7750
the ctrl+s text doesn't show at all
edit: nevermind, it hooked now after i ran radeonpro as admin and i see the sweetfx txt after ctrl+s, but no effects show
edit2: forgot i need to use outdated sweetfx, now it works greatly, even works with the item patch from twerker (which i forgot to screenshot):
[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.imgur.com/ZPmE4YG.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]
edit3: tho im getting lots of NP1013 or something so its out of question for me i guess
edit4: exact error dialog
http://i.imgur.com/Hwct30A.png

NP1013 (NProtect Error 1013) is gameguard detecting something messing with the game and force quitting you out pretty much. It's obviously related to RadeonPro and /or SweetFX in this case, and may or may not be solved by turning off OSD/FPS Counter.

[jooozek]

NP1013 (NProtect Error 1013) is gameguard detecting something messing with the game and force quitting you out pretty much. It's obviously related to RadeonPro and /or SweetFX in this case, and may or may not be solved by turning off OSD/FPS Counter.
it's related with sweetfx as i've uninstalled radeonpro, rebooted but was getting still NP1013, went to the game dir, deleted the dx dll w/e it was called and just played the game for 20 mins without NPC1013

@AIDA
+0x33aca2b9 as startup parameter in radeonpro for pso2.exe and this (though it's pointless to do, i guess?):

Just found out that under "My Computer" > Properties > Advanced System Settings > Environment Variables > System Variables you can set -pso2 as a variable with the value of +0x01e3f1e9. From there, you can get steam to run pso2.exe directly with the +0x33aca2b9 flag. Works for me under Win7 64bit.

EDIT: Whoops, forgot to mention. After setting the system variable, make sure to restart so that windows adds it to its running list of variables.

[Excaerious]

it's related with sweetfx as i've uninstalled radeonpro, rebooted but was getting still NP1013, went to the game dir, deleted the dx dll w/e it was called and just played the game for 20 mins without NPC1013

Interesting, then that there may be your error. It's unnecessary to actually put the dll into the PSO2 folder if you have RadeonPro pointed to SweetFX. RadeonPro will actually act as an integrator and mediator for PSO2 and SweetFX so that gameguard won't flag it and error you out of the game.


Okay, so everything is run as Admin, but neither the FPS or OSD show.

I'm using a NVidia GeForce GT 640. I don't suppose anyone has Skype or anything to help me out? D:

Jooozek - What sys variable and startup parameters are you talking about?


I do have skype and would be willing to help, but I don't know if I would help - even worse I recently sold off my GTX 660. RadeonPro and SweetFX seems real hit or miss when running with PSO2 especially with an Nvidia card. Every setup will probably be slightly different and behave as such. However, I'll let you know my Skype and try to help you out, if you really do need it. No real promises there though.

[jooozek]

Interesting, then that there may be your error. It's unnecessary to actually put the dll into the PSO2 folder if you have RadeonPro pointed to SweetFX. RadeonPro will actually act as an integrator and mediator for PSO2 and SweetFX so that gameguard won't flag it and error you out of the game.

i ended up having the dll because i went first 1.5.1 with radeonpro, then used the sweetfx configurator tool (which is what copied the dll in first place i guess) when radeonpro didn't work and then finally 1.4 with radeonpro, i will try now radeonpro alone and see if the game withstand 1 hour without np1013, will edit in the post
edit: ran for 45 minutes without problem but i had to reboot my PC for windows update but yeah, seems like it did the trick

[Sizustar]

GeForce 334.89 WHQL Driver released
http://www.guru3d.com/files_details/geforce_334_89_whql_driver_download.html

[jooozek]

just wanted to confirm again that i've ran for good few hours with no problems at all (well, aside of the bloom shader not allowing me to even launch the game but ignoring that FXAA and SMAA both work and can swap them in real time)

[Excaerious]

just wanted to confirm again that i've ran for good few hours with no problems at all (well, aside of the bloom shader not allowing me to even launch the game but ignoring that FXAA and SMAA both work and can swap them in real time)

I've been trying to troubleshoot other people's errors with SweetFX/RadeonPro with only varying levels of success. Since you are running an AMD GPU I was wondering, are you forcing AA modes? Or simply using in-game AA? FXAA and SMAA work for me too, but are really just post-post-processing, and don't improve the AA enough to really matter without forced AA modes, the AA difference isn't noticeable at all really.

[Sizustar]

Trying some more new stuff and AO bit.

A
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[jooozek]

I've been trying to troubleshoot other people's errors with SweetFX/RadeonPro with only varying levels of success. Since you are running an AMD GPU I was wondering, are you forcing AA modes? Or simply using in-game AA? FXAA and SMAA work for me too, but are really just post-post-processing, and don't improve the AA enough to really matter without forced AA modes, the AA difference isn't noticeable at all really.

when i got my card i tried all the settings but none of them worked, only the smaa/fxaa from radeonpro work
anyway, is it possible to even get some kind of ambient occlusion to work with amd cards?

[Foslix]

Trying some more new stuff and AO bit.

A
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what settings are used for that? it looks amazing is nvidia both with sweet fx? would like to try but not sure what settings are being used ^^;

[Sizustar]

what settings are used for that? it looks amazing is nvidia both with sweet fx? would like to try but not sure what settings are being used ^^;

No sweetFX, only Nvidia Inspector and different bit for AA and AO.

[Excaerious]

when i got my card i tried all the settings but none of them worked, only the smaa/fxaa from radeonpro work
anyway, is it possible to even get some kind of ambient occlusion to work with amd cards?

Normally? Yes. There is a way, in RadeonPro/CCC you can create a new AO profile for something and tweak it. In RadeonPro in the options menu there is an entire section dedicated for it, and functions similar to how Nvidia does with AA modes utilizing compatibility bits. I haven't tried it much myself.

[Nitro Vordex]

So I was going to try this out, but Radeon Pro is telling me that PSO2 need to be elevated, even though I have PSO2 set to run as administrator. I tried running RadeonPro as admin, but that gave me the same message. I'm also the admin of the computer. So, you know. Dafuq.

[jooozek]

So I was going to try this out, but Radeon Pro is telling me that PSO2 need to be elevated, even though I have PSO2 set to run as administrator. I tried running RadeonPro as admin, but that gave me the same message. I'm also the admin of the computer. So, you know. Dafuq.
i don't quite follow; what's the problem?
it's normal for the message to pop up because games rarely need to be elevated, pso2 needs to because lolgameguard so to do anything to it you need to elevate radeonpro too: the only way to not see those messages is to disable UAC totally i guess lol

[final_attack]

@Nitro
check if RadeonPro already running (in your tray(?) bar) before you run it as admin. Close it, and try to run it again as admin o_o Got the same problem before this, and it's fixed that way.

[Nitro Vordex]

Aye, got it working, thanks.

[Preposterous Rhino]

Huh, I thought this thread faded into obscurity :p Randomly decided to check on it ha. Seems like most people got their stuff working properly. Now for AIDA asking about putting SweetFX in the Tweaker (IIRC, you are the person who made it) you would need to create a hooking algorithm for it, otherwise, we would still be reliant on other software, such as RadeonPro. I am a novice programmer and have absolutely zero clue on how to go about doing that haha.

If anybody else runs into trouble/still has trouble, I can try to help and I'm sure others will continue to help as well.

[Uthred]

Just getting into the game and thought I'd get the visuals sorted before getting stuck in. Just running around the tutorial area probably isnt much of a test but the game seems to stick fairly reliably to 60fps, dipping to 50 now and then. So these are the settings I'm using at the moment, just wondering if my compatability bits are in order and if MS&SGSS is the way to go? Switching between Performance and High Quality for AO doesnt seem to make much of a difference in terms of image quality or performance.

In terms of the game itself I should have in-game AA turned off, everything else on or at max and presumably running fullscreen would squeeze a few more FPS out of it?

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[Sizustar]

Just getting into the game and thought I'd get the visuals sorted before getting stuck in. Just running around the tutorial area probably isnt much of a test but the game seems to stick fairly reliably to 60fps, dipping to 50 now and then. So these are the settings I'm using at the moment, just wondering if my compatability bits are in order and if MS&SGSS is the way to go? Switching between Performance and High Quality for AO doesnt seem to make much of a difference in terms of image quality or performance.

In terms of the game itself I should have in-game AA turned off, everything else on or at max and presumably running fullscreen would squeeze a few more FPS out of it?

[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.imgur.com/1mtG0WC.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

Well, I use combined AA setting, but you need a powerful GPU or SLI to pull that off.

[Preposterous Rhino]

A.
AO Bit - 0x000C000E - High Quality
AA Bit - 0x004110C5
LOD - -1.5

B.
AO bit - 0x000C000F - High Quality
AA Bit - 0x004F12C1

Setting for all screenshot is in Team Room, team background is the onsen for the foggy effect.

For whatever reason, the first bit doesn't really work for me. The second one works for me, but it isn't as bold of an effect as yours. Is the fog distorting it to give it that look or does it always look that strong? On the plus side, the performance hit isn't super high even at high quality :D

EDIT: I'm talking about the ambient occlusion btw lol

EDIT2: Okay....so that's odd. That AO bit only worked when I used the AA bit as well O_o. I don't think I've ever seen that happen before. Since one of my GPUs decided to stop working :'( I can't run the game well with AO AND that AA. I surprisingly stayed above 30 fps though....I have 1 560 TI, so no clue how that happened. I'm shocked enough to maintain 60 with AO on high quality (using 0x000C000F).

[Preposterous Rhino]

Yeah, I've already hooked it, but I don't see any difference. I figure if I can get it to work, I can test it and finish it ._. I haven't gotten SweetFX working, even once.

I could possibly help you out over skype if you'd like. Idk how much help I can be though.

[Preposterous Rhino]

Well, I use combined AA setting, but you need a powerful GPU or SLI to pull that off.

Oh yeah, something I figured out (stupid confusing names), you actually have to set Driver Controlled LOD Bias to OFF in order for your LOD changes to do anything. It is counter intuitive. Also, with that addition to the drivers a while back, the LOD clamp and allow option is 100% useless :D lol. If you look at the detailed patch notes, it says it doesn't do anything and it has said that for months now. Really weird that it is still in the drivers.

[Sizustar]

For whatever reason, the first bit doesn't really work for me. The second one works for me, but it isn't as bold of an effect as yours. Is the fog distorting it to give it that look or does it always look that strong? On the plus side, the performance hit isn't super high even at high quality :D

EDIT: I'm talking about the ambient occlusion btw lol

EDIT2: Okay....so that's odd. That AO bit only worked when I used the AA bit as well O_o. I don't think I've ever seen that happen before. Since one of my GPUs decided to stop working :'( I can't run the game well with AO AND that AA. I surprisingly stayed above 30 fps though....I have 1 560 TI, so no clue how that happened. I'm shocked enough to maintain 60 with AO on high quality (using 0x000C000F).

Yep, Which is why I'm using it now, because it allows me to get 70+ FPS on 1440P.

I should probabely do some more video recording soon, but not sure what to record, my gameplay isn't as great as those speed runer or people that go for most efficiency, and I only main a FO, so it's not as flash as those BR player..

Some more screenshot from mines, the picture have not been edited in anyway.
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[lnvisible]

Yep, Which is why I'm using it now, because it allows me to get 70+ FPS on 1440P.

I should probabely do some more video recording soon, but not sure what to record, my gameplay isn't as great as those speed runer or people that go for most efficiency, and I only main a FO, so it's not as flash as those BR player..

Some more screenshot from mines, the picture have not been edited in anyway.
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Finally realized that the mechs are pretty big.[SPOILER-BOX]
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Fighting Beserk Lilipa[SPOILER-BOX]
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What settings are you using for inspector for those screenshots? I recently got a much much better GPU and am interested in seeing how far I can push it while retaining solid FPS. So far I've got these settings and they work fine with no lag but there's a strange lighting issue.

[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.imgur.com/y8L5kQM.png[/SPOILER-BOX]

[Sizustar]

What settings are you using for inspector for those screenshots? I recently got a much much better GPU and am interested in seeing how far I can push it while retaining solid FPS. So far I've got these settings and they work fine with no lag but there's a strange lighting issue.

[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.imgur.com/y8L5kQM.png[/SPOILER-BOX]

http://www.pso-world.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3015787&postcount=446

[The_Brimada]

Why did I buy an AMD Card again? Lol but I'm determined to make my game look even better than it currently does..... somehow.

[Misaki Ki]

This is a shot in the dark for SweetFx, but for those who can't get it to work, are you unable to see Gameguard/Nprotect in the task manager?

Same to those who can, and such.

[lnvisible]

Anyone test out the latest Nvidia drivers?

[Lorne]

Two questions:

1. With anti-aliasing and ambient occlusion turned on, I seem to get a strange green outline around my character when I'm standing in front of the warp pool in the campship. Is this normal?
2. Is there any way for me to use SweetFX without RadeonPro?

[Preposterous Rhino]

Two questions:

1. With anti-aliasing and ambient occlusion turned on, I seem to get a strange green outline around my character when I'm standing in front of the warp pool in the campship. Is this normal?
2. Is there any way for me to use SweetFX without RadeonPro?

The green outline could be due to conflicts with the engines lighting and the AA you chose. My guess is you used MSAA and got that effect. I don't know how big of a problem it is to call it normal or not :p

You do need RadeonPro for SweetFX in PSO2. You can thank GameGuard for that. Unless there is other software that is very similar to RadeonPro, RadeonPro is the only option.

[Lorne]

Thanks. Yeah, it is with MSAA. I guess it's not really a big deal.

Is 8x MSAA + 4x SGSSAA the only way to avoid making the game blurry? I first tried the settings shown in the Nvidia Inspector image in the OP (4x MSAA + 4x SGSSAA), which I'm assuming is the general recommendation, but wow, I've never seen such a blurry game before in my life. :(

[Preposterous Rhino]

Thanks. Yeah, it is with MSAA. I guess it's not really a big deal.

Is 8x MSAA + 4x SGSSAA the only way to avoid making the game blurry? I first tried the settings shown in the Nvidia Inspector image in the OP (4x MSAA + 4x SGSSAA), which I'm assuming is the general recommendation, but wow, I've never seen such a blurry game before in my life. :(

Unfortunately it is. I haven't tried to make it better in a while, but I used 8xMSAA + 4xSGSSAA personally. I now use SMAA through RadeonPro though. It would be nice if Sega would implement native supersampling :/

[Coreven]

Well, 8x MSAA and SGSSAA clears the blur pretty well for me.

[Lorne]

Yeah, 8x MSAA + 4x SGSSAA is working pretty well for me. It doesn't smooth out everything, but it gets most of it. Thanks!

Sadly, I'm getting FPS problems with this setup though (with ambient occlusion turned on as well)... With my GTX 680, I'm only getting 50-70 FPS in the lobby, so it's kinda jerky, and if I stand in the smoke in the lobby (around the titan's head), it drops all the way down to 30-40. Ouch. When I was just using the in-game anti-aliasing, I was getting a stable 120 FPS. :(

[Preposterous Rhino]

Yeah, 8x MSAA + 4x SGSSAA is working pretty well for me. It doesn't smooth out everything, but it gets most of it. Thanks!

Sadly, I'm getting FPS problems with this setup though (with ambient occlusion turned on as well)... With my GTX 680, I'm only getting 50-70 FPS in the lobby, so it's kinda jerky, and if I stand in the smoke in the lobby (around the titan's head), it drops all the way down to 30-40. Ouch. When I was just using the in-game anti-aliasing, I was getting a stable 120 FPS. :(

the in-game anti-aliasing is a horrible FXAA/MLAA implementation. It flat out sucks, but it also doesn't hit your framerate....at all really. SGSSAA is a completely brute force AA method that will nearly cut your framerate in half. Ambient Occlusion kills your framerate as well. I personally think SMAA is the best option in this game, even if it doesn't hit a lot of edges well. SGSSAA blurs in this game, SSAA doesn't work unless you basically turn off lighting, and MSAA doesn't work well because of the deferred rendering. SMAA is basically a good MLAA (I think the technique is based off of MLAA actually). It has minimal blur considering it is post-process, and the performance hit isn't high.

[Sizustar]

Thanks. Yeah, it is with MSAA. I guess it's not really a big deal.

Is 8x MSAA + 4x SGSSAA the only way to avoid making the game blurry? I first tried the settings shown in the Nvidia Inspector image in the OP (4x MSAA + 4x SGSSAA), which I'm assuming is the general recommendation, but wow, I've never seen such a blurry game before in my life. :(

You can also try Combined setting, but it'll be a bigger hit then MSAA+SGSSAA
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[Misaki Ki]

For AO, any specific Nvidia drivers I should be looking at?

[chaoko99]

how do I get this working with the tweaker?

as in, the sweetfx don't apply when the game is launched from the tweaker
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[Horo The Wise Wolf]

From what I know, Sweet FX isn't working at all. Gameguard blocks Raedon Pro.

[Ezodagrom]

From what I know, Sweet FX isn't working at all. Gameguard blocks Raedon Pro.
Last time I tried (a month ago or so), RadeonPro was working but SweetFX didn't work.

[Sizustar]

Nvidia Wonder driver 337.50 released.
I'll try it and report later tonight.

http://www.guru3d.com/files_details/geforce_337_50_beta_download.html

[jooozek]

sweetfx and radeonpro do work pso2 currently
here, have some proof
[SPOILER-BOX]http://s22.postimg.org/fmfa29wnz/pso2_exe_2014_04_07_12_09_18_647.png
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how do I get this working with the tweaker?

as in, the sweetfx don't apply when the game is launched from the tweaker
<-- needs his item translation
those are my settings
http://i.imgur.com/PRMzl6Y.png
you need to launch radeonpro as admin, then up to few times launch the game from the tweaker and it will finally hook at some attempt

[Lorne]

Having ambient occlusion forced on seems to result in shadows being drawn on top of the fog in Forest, which looks very very strange. Is there any solution for this?

[Sizustar]

Having ambient occlusion forced on seems to result in shadows being drawn on top of the fog in Forest, which looks very very strange. Is there any solution for this?

Use a different AO bit then.

http://www.pso-world.com/forums/showthread.php?t=196162

[Lorne]

I thought 0x0000000F (Dead Space) was the correct one to use for this?

[Sizustar]

I thought 0x0000000F (Dead Space) was the correct one to use for this?

There isn't a correct AO bit, as Nvidia didn't make one for PSO2, test out different one, and choose one that best suits you.

[chaoko99]

sweetfx and radeonpro do work pso2 currently
here, have some proof
[SPOILER-BOX]http://s22.postimg.org/fmfa29wnz/pso2_exe_2014_04_07_12_09_18_647.png
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those are my settings
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you need to launch radeonpro as admin, then up to few times launch the game from the tweaker and it will finally hook at some attempt

thanks man!

Edit; not working yet, also, the hell does your startup param (how is param a word in chrome but not startup?) do / mean
last one, how does one turn on AF?

Edit 2; been the 5th try, WORK YOU LITTLE SHIT

[Sizustar]

I thought 0x0000000F (Dead Space) was the correct one to use for this?

Here's video and picture example of tweaking the last letter of the AO bit.
Everything else is the same, just changing the last letter for the AO bit from E to F

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mCnKAMc6FI"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mCnKAMc6FI


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngdREkf4N8I"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngdREkf4N8I

[chaoko99]

soo.... sweetfx wont work.... radeon pro wont hook, and I cannot ge my F*CKING AO AA AND AF

[Sizustar]

Nvidia released 337.61 hotfix

http://www.guru3d.com/files_details/geforce_337_61_beta_download.html

[Coatl]

Here's video and picture example of tweaking the last letter of the AO bit.
Everything else is the same, just changing the last letter for the AO bit from E to F

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https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7327/13744056255_7163ff9c4a_o_d.png

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mCnKAMc6FI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngdREkf4N8I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngdREkf4N8I)

What are your settings on nvidia inspector if you don't mind me asking?

[xfri]

The best settings is SMAA + SweetFX right?

[Preposterous Rhino]

The best settings is SMAA + SweetFX right?

Somewhat subjective. I use SweetFX and SMAA for performance reasons. Some people hate any form of blur, so the SGSSAA isn't even an option for them. The SGSSAA murders any jaggies, so if that is what you want, use that, but you need a hell of a GPU for it. If you are concerned with performance, SMAA is my personal favorite. SweetFX settings is purely subjective and varies based on monitor. My crappy TN monitor with horrible gamma will look good with my settings, but someone with a high end IPS panel will take a look at my screenshots and think they are horrible. Just play around with SweetFX until you like it.

[Sizustar]

The best settings is SMAA + SweetFX right?

I only use Nvidia inspector's AA and AO setting, None of my picture or video have been edited or use SweetFX, unless otherwise stated


What are your settings on nvidia inspector if you don't mind me asking?

AA bit, depends on what I'm doing

AO bit, Deadspace one or 0x000C000E or 0x000C000F, depending on the area.

AA 16xS [Combined: 2x2 SS + 4x MS] or 8xQ [8x Multisampling]+4x Sparse Grid Supersampling

[xfri]

Okay I have some ideas now.

[Sizustar]

Okay I have some ideas now.

Well, it mainly depends on your CPU/GPU, and what resolution and FPS you want to play at.

[xfri]

Well, it mainly depends on your CPU/GPU, and what resolution and FPS you want to play at.

Sadly I have Pentium dual core e6660 3ghz and GTX 650 I'm planning to upgrade my CPU to i5-3550P. My screen resolution is 1600x900 About FPS in dungeon is 140 and full lobby is 40fps.

[Sizustar]

Sadly I have Pentium dual core e6660 3ghz and GTX 650 I'm planning to upgrade my CPU to i5-3550P. My screen resolution is 1600x900 About FPS in dungeon is 140 and full lobby is 40fps.

You should try the Op setting and see if it is ok.

For me, I get about 80~90 FPS with my setting

[zegun~kun]

sizu, mind giving us your inspector screenie?

[Sizustar]

sizu, mind giving us your inspector screenie?

Current setting?
Here,
https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2919/13962607154_6b16c8b871_z_d.jpg

This is what it looks like ingame Screen resolution 3600x2025
Average FPS 50~60, So lost about 20 FPS compared to 1440P, which is what I use, but a different Nvidia setting, when recording video
[SPOILER-BOX]
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7298/13962032155_906d91b877_o_d.png[/SPOILER-BOX]

[seilent]

At last, managed to be able to run SweetFX at PSO2, my eye hurts if play w/o SweetFX.. xD

Maybe for those who can't use RP, try to follow this step..

The idea is to make PSO2, RP running as administrator. Since i think gameguard is run as admin, while PSO2 is not, that makes confusion in RP..

Basically just [Right Click] > [Properties] at each .exe files..
and tick the [Run as Admin] checkbox..

[SPOILER-BOX]http://s8.postimg.org/3r7c9dahh/Capture.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

If u Get this when launching RP, just click at [Yes]
[SPOILER-BOX]http://s15.postimg.org/8fwxrm3ff/image.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

[pkemr4]

do i need Radeon pro if i can run AF/AA through inspector?

[Preposterous Rhino]

do i need Radeon pro if i can run AF/AA through inspector?

You only need Radeon Pro if you want SweetFX. If you don't want to use SweetFX, Nvidia Inspector is all you need.

[GHNeko]

Think anyone can help me out? Stuck with a GeForce 610M with 2GB VRAM.

I'm looking for some settings that will help give me a better performance/quality ratio.

Can anyone teach me a thing or two? I'm not really an Nvdia person lol.

[Preposterous Rhino]

Think anyone can help me out? Stuck with a GeForce 610M with 2GB VRAM.

I'm looking for some settings that will help give me a better performance/quality ratio.

Can anyone teach me a thing or two? I'm not really an Nvdia person lol.

Unfortunately, the 610m is not very good for performance. I think it is pretty much equivalent to intel HD 4000 actually. I just looked up some benchmarks and it actually goes back and forth with intel HD 4000. It depends on the demands of the game. I wouldn't recommend doing anything listed in this thread with that card. Try going into the PSO2 settings and lowering everything, and slowly working your way up from there. There isn't much else I can suggest.

[GHNeko]

That's fair enough.

Oh well.

I cant wait to get my desktop back and thusly, get off this Nvidia nonsense. </fanboy>

Thanks!

[pkemr4]

Current setting?
Here,
https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2919/13962607154_6b16c8b871_z_d.jpg

This is what it looks like ingame Screen resolution 3600x2025
Average FPS 50~60, So lost about 20 FPS compared to 1440P, which is what I use, but a different Nvidia setting, when recording video
[SPOILER-BOX]
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7298/13962032155_906d91b877_o_d.png[/SPOILER-BOX]

i tryed your settings. i dont think the AO is working for me..

[Sizustar]

i tryed your settings. i dont think the AO is working for me..

Which driver are you using?
If it's any driver verson after 331.40
Then Nvidia changed the AO to HBAO+, which PSO2 doesn't really support really well.

[pkemr4]

335.23 WHQL i noticed the the shadows are improved alot

heres a screenshot with it enabled

[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.imgur.com/jyyU2HW.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

[Sizustar]

335.23 WHQL i noticed the the shadows are improved alot

heres a screenshot with it enabled

[SPOILER-BOX]http://i.imgur.com/jyyU2HW.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

If you want a stronger AO, you'll have to use a version before 331.40

[wefwq]

Can anyone help me optimizing this game running with GT740M 2GB?
I have 8GB RAM.
Mine have lots of stutters during MPA runs.
I already tried with various options but it seems the game will gave me random pauses instead.

[Sizustar]

Can anyone help me optimizing this game running with GT740M 2GB?
I have 8GB RAM.
Mine have lots of stutters during MPA runs.

Reduce graphic setting to 1
Laptop is not really suited ot do these type of tweaking.
You need a desktop with a dedicated GPU.
Generally a GTX 660 or 760 or higher.

[pkemr4]

what should i set maximum prerendered frames to?

[Horo The Wise Wolf]

I have mine set to unlimited.

However, it depends on your monitor.

If you have a 60Hz Monitor, you can output 120FPS, but the monitor will only show 60.

If you have a 120Hz Monitor and only get 75FPS, you will show all 75 frames.

My monitor has a 144Hz refresh rate, so with Optimized graphics on my native 1080p settings I can achieve ~130FPS. Whenever I go to 1440p my FPS drops to ~100 and my monitor adjusts to 120Hz.

[pkemr4]

kinda dumb question but ill ask anyways. when im in areas like lobby or Redroom my GPU load goes up to 99% but when im walking around in lobby or in places like B20 my GPU load goes down alot and temp goes down... any reason for this? (im using shizus settings and no my gpu is not OC'd) and i have fps set to unlimited

[Gama]

it would be interesting if there where settings to improve overall performance on the game. keeping the default look.

optimizing the game.

[Sizustar]

it would be interesting if there where settings to improve overall performance on the game. keeping the default look.

optimizing the game.

That would require Sega to actually do some work.
Such as set a maximum amount of particle.
Set a max view distance
Incorporate HBAO+
etc.

[pkemr4]

setup a fan curve and now my temps are 69-70C now :D

[Sizustar]

setup a fan curve and now my temps are 69-70C now :D

Well, the next step would be to use a unlocked customized bios canceling boost.

[Sizustar]

For people that overclock using MSI afterburner.
RC version 3.0.0 is out
http://www.guru3d.com/files_details/msi_afterburner_beta_download.html

Nvidia Geforce 337.81 Beta driver
http://www.guru3d.com/files_details/download_nvidia_geforce_337_81_beta_driver.html

[Preposterous Rhino]

Taking over Sizustar's unofficial job lol

Nvidia Geforce 337.88 WHQL Driver
http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/75991/en-us

[tempetahu0]

still can't hook radeonpro with pso2 T.T
any help about this?
can login about 5min, but that's all there's no changes from radeonpro + sweetFX

[Sizustar]

still can't hook radeonpro with pso2 T.T
any help about this?
can login about 5min, but that's all there's no changes from radeonpro + sweetFX

Which version of SweetFX?
And try using Sepia or monochrome, and set a button to turn on and off SweetFX, I use ins, first test with monochrome o rSepia, and can see turning on and off.

[tempetahu0]

Which version of SweetFX?
And try using Sepia or monochrome, and set a button to turn on and off SweetFX, I use ins, first test with monochrome o rSepia, and can see turning on and off.

sweetFX at the first page i think it's 1.4
wait up gonna try that :-)
EDIT : nice, can see the changes in sepia :-) i dunno what's wrong with my first settings is it because my hotkey?i use ctrl+shift+O or it's with sweetFX setting?bloom,etc i just followed first page tho..

ps: pso2 gameguard still kicked me out T.T

[Nymfidemus]

pso2 gameguard still kicked me out T.T
Try this, at least it worked for me.

Maybe for those who can't use RP, try to follow this step..
The idea is to make PSO2, RP running as administrator. Since i think gameguard is run as admin, while PSO2 is not, that makes confusion in RP..
Basically just [Right Click] > [Properties] at each .exe files..
and tick the [Run as Admin] checkbox..
You're using this for SEA version I assume?

[tempetahu0]

Try this, at least it worked for me.

You're using this for SEA version I assume?

no, i'm using this for pso2jp ver
and yes i already tried it with administrator but got no luck with that :-(

[Chik'Tikka]

Have you tried deleting the GameGuard folders and more importantly the registry entries? you can do this easily using the Tweaker (Orb>Troubleshooting>Fix GameGuard Errors), and then REBOOTING your computer before launching PSO2 again.
*it's important to reboot after deleting the GG registry as they may still be loaded in your RAM and may simply be *restored* when you download GG again*

This is how i get MSI afterburner to hook PSO2 for FPS monitor and recording+^_^+

[tempetahu0]

Have you tried deleting the GameGuard folders and more importantly the registry entries? you can do this easily using the Tweaker (Orb>Troubleshooting>Fix GameGuard Errors), and then REBOOTING your computer before launching PSO2 again.
*it's important to reboot after deleting the GG registry as they may still be loaded in your RAM and may simply be *restored* when you download GG again*

This is how i get MSI afterburner to hook PSO2 for FPS monitor and recording+^_^+

ok,using tweaker to fix gameguard error?then restart?
gonna try that :-)

EDIT: gameguard problem still there...it seems they block any programs that show FPS ?using radeonpro show FPS so can we just disable it?
i already tried allow firewall, turn off anti virus but still no result >.<

[Sizustar]

ok,using tweaker to fix gameguard error?then restart?
gonna try that :-)

EDIT: gameguard problem still there...it seems they block any programs that show FPS ?using radeonpro show FPS so can we just disable it?
i already tried allow firewall, turn off anti virus but still no result >.<

I don't know why you are having so much trouble. But gameguard didn't block FPS display for me through Fraps, MSI Aftrerburner and SweetFX.

[Nymfidemus]

Gameguard problem still there...it seems they block any programs that show FPS ?using radeonpro show FPS so can we just disable it?
i already tried allow firewall, turn off anti virus but still no result >.<

1. Same as Sizu, my game didn't crash when I had Fraps on so I highly doubt GG's blocking it.
2. You can always set your FPS counter to "Hidden" under RP's Setting and use OSD instead.
3. No you don't need to add an exception on both firewall and AV if you've been following the tutorial and seilent's workaround.

Anyway, you'll be fine playing the game w/o RP or SweetFX.

[Sizustar]

Actually, What antivirus are you using?
Try uninstalling it first, run the game with SweetFX< see if GG is still giving problem, if not, then switch to another AV.

[tempetahu0]

lol now this is getting me frustrated..
my AV is windows Defender it's default AV for windows 8

now the heck with this error??

[Preposterous Rhino]

lol now this is getting me frustrated..
my AV is windows Defender it's default AV for windows 8

now the heck with this error??

Just to be sure, did you put the SweetFX files in the PSO2 directory? If you did, delete them. I believe you are the first person who has had this problem using RadeonPro, so I'm assuming you already knew how to install sweetfx and sped through the instructions and missed that step :p Then again, I could be completely wrong :lol:

[Shinamori]

Start MSI after burner before starting PSO2, that works for me.

[tempetahu0]

Just to be sure, did you put the SweetFX files in the PSO2 directory? If you did, delete them. I believe you are the first person who has had this problem using RadeonPro, so I'm assuming you already knew how to install sweetfx and sped through the instructions and missed that step :p Then again, I could be completely wrong :lol:

ah yeah i did put them into pso2 directory :-P
ok so i guess that's the problem ^^; thanks a lot guys!

ps: what about AO?how to enable?and what's the best setting for it? :-P

[Sizustar]

ah yeah i did put them into pso2 directory :-P
ok so i guess that's the problem ^^; thanks a lot guys!

ps: what about AO?how to enable?and what's the best setting for it? :-P

What's your GPU, and generally Deadspace is the most common setting for AO.

[tempetahu0]

What's your GPU, and generally Deadspace is the most common setting for AO.

well my GPU is not that good it's AMD 6730M :D
but just got curious about AO :-P

[Sizustar]

well my GPU is not that good it's AMD 6730M :D
but just got curious about AO :-P

You can try and enable in SweetFX, but it won't really help.
The strong AO is only through Nvidia GPU and Nvidia Inspector.

[kjvc]

Hi, what would be the preferred settings for my specs below. I'd like to have the highest visual display with good FPS.

i7 2600K
4gb Ram
GTX 460 SE

Thanks in advance

[Preposterous Rhino]

Hi, what would be the preferred settings for my specs below. I'd like to have the highest visual display with good FPS.

i7 2600K
4gb Ram
GTX 460 SE

Thanks in advance

I'm not too familiar with the performance of that card, but I'm assuming sweetfx is fine. You might be able to use ambient occlusion, but I doubt it. Stay away from the high end anti aliasing though. There is no way you will be able to run that well.

Most likely, SweetFx with SMAA is gonna be best for you.

[kjvc]

Cool thanks Rhino,

Would there be any chance for me to use these settings 4xMSAA + 4xSGSSAA - LOD Bias -1.000 ? The screenshot looks really promising. Damn.. I need a better card :)

I am still downloading the pso2 installer for SEA. Will give the SweetFx with SMAA shot later.

[Preposterous Rhino]

Cool thanks Rhino,

Would there be any chance for me to use these settings 4xMSAA + 4xSGSSAA - LOD Bias -1.000 ? The screenshot looks really promising. Damn.. I need a better card :)

I am still downloading the pso2 installer for SEA. Will give the SweetFx with SMAA shot later.

It would probably bring you down to 30 fps, but you can give it a shot. You might as well try :D

[Preposterous Rhino]

kinda dumb question but ill ask anyways. when im in areas like lobby or Redroom my GPU load goes up to 99% but when im walking around in lobby or in places like B20 my GPU load goes down alot and temp goes down... any reason for this? (im using shizus settings and no my gpu is not OC'd) and i have fps set to unlimited

I know this is an older post, but I just saw it looking for something else and don't think anybody answered it. In MMOs, when there are a lot of other players, or a lot of AI calculations, CPUs generally become the bottleneck. If your CPU gets too much work, your GPU needs to slow down a bit to keep the game running smoothly. Because your GPU isn't working as hard, your temps are going to be lower. It is perfectly normal. It happens in MMOs even on my overclocked i7 2600k, which is still a fantastic processor.

I might be pulling this part out of my ass, but if developers utilized GPGPU processing a bit more, the problem could possibly be eliminated. Of course that also means a higher workload for your GPU.

[Berny3000]

hey i have a question, i made the settings exacly like on your threat, but its still not working for me... i wonder what im doing wrong

i have
Win 7 64 Bit
ATI HD 5750

the game runs fine on max, but when i start RadeonPro i dont see anything apply to the game...
or do i have to hit the Toggle Key for it? i tried that and it didnt worked either, im kind of confused :S

[Nymfidemus]

hey i have a question, i made the settings exacly like on your threat, but its still not working for me... i wonder what im doing wrong

i have
Win 7 64 Bit
ATI HD 5750

the game runs fine on max, but when i start RadeonPro i dont see anything apply to the game...
or do i have to hit the Toggle Key for it? i tried that and it didnt worked either, im kind of confused :S

Make sure you run RadeonPro first, and then any of your desired game. Tick the OSD setting; if you see a bunch of texts (fan speed and such) when the game starts then you'll know that it's hooked.

In my case, I had to restart the game if I made any changes in its profile while the game is still on, not sure about others though.

[Berny3000]

well i start the game with the radeon pro and i shuted the OSD on but its not showing anything,
so i suppose it dont want attach with my game?

[Preposterous Rhino]

well i start the game with the radeon pro and i shuted the OSD on but its not showing anything,
so i suppose it dont want attach with my game?

I'm not really sure what's wrong. Try to go step by step again just to make sure you didn't skip something or misread something.

[pkemr4]

kinda doubt a HD 5750 will handle AO + SGSSAA

[Berny3000]

ah well i seted it up all again and still no result, weird OSD still dont want pop up either :S

[Preposterous Rhino]

kinda doubt a HD 5750 will handle AO + SGSSAA

They are trying to use SweetFX. They could have the best AMD card and not be able to use AO and SGSSAA in PSO2 :p

[Misaki Ki]

They are trying to use SweetFX. They could have the best AMD card and not be able to use AO and SGSSAA in PSO2 :p

There's still something that prevents some people. I haven't been able to get SweetFX to work since I upgraded from Windows 8.0 to 8.1, despite that version working for others.

A bit amusing for me since I was the one who first tried this, lol.

[Sizustar]

Okay so

New system, everything seems to hook fine, haven't gotten any errors from GG at all for the past 2 weeks.

Trying this out and I get this error:

http://puu.sh/9pht1/7a298dca69.png

I've already tried running RadeonPro as admin, same issue.

Did you turn it on in compatability mode(Aka. RIght clock, properties)
If you did, turn that off, and only go Admin by shift click, try that.

[Sizustar]

I didn't use compatibility, I right clicked :p

So, did that work instead?

[Foslix]

hey sizustar got any screenshot of your nvidia inspector my settings always come blurry just want it close to crisp like your screenshots

[Preposterous Rhino]

Okay so

New system, everything seems to hook fine, haven't gotten any errors from GG at all for the past 2 weeks.

Trying this out and I get this error:

http://puu.sh/9pht1/7a298dca69.png

I've already tried running RadeonPro as admin, same issue.

You have to run the launcher (or your English launcher) as admin, along with pso2.exe. Not sure why, but it is like that for me too.

[Preposterous Rhino]

hey sizustar got any screenshot of your nvidia inspector my settings always come blurry just want it close to crisp like your screenshots

Use 8x MSAA and 4x SGSSAA for maximum sharpness with good enough anti aliasing. That's what sizu was using the last time I saw it.

[Preposterous Rhino]

Just set PSO2 Tweaker.exe and pso2.exe to run as admin all the time, and I still get the same error :v

RadeonPro needs to as well, sorry lol. Forgot that bit.

[Preposterous Rhino]

I've already stated that I've done this by right clicking -> Run as admin and right clicking -> Compatibility -> Always run as admin...

Oh sorry. That's bizarre. Not really sure what's going on then.

[Sizustar]

I've already stated that I've done this by right clicking -> Run as admin and right clicking -> Compatibility -> Always run as admin...

So it's not hooking on at all, and did you use the start up parameter?
Since it's happening to my guild leader too.
He can get it to work on BF4, but not PSO2

Aida, get a log of your Radeon Pro
http://www.radeonpro.info/manual/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/settings_general.jpg


And you can ask on the RadeonPro forum.
http://forum.radeonpro.info/bug-reports/535-radeonprosweetfx-not-hooking-onto-pso2

[heinrich6745]

I just tried this, but i can't seem to get it to work, i am trying to get the SweetFX to work currently, nothing else. I get no errors and seems like it should work, but once i load the game, nothing changes or has no effect...maybe i did something wrong i am not sure.

I ended up resetting everything back to default till i get the mood back to trying it again, i just want to play since i been busy all weekend with a yard sale lol.

[Sizustar]

GeForce 340.43 Beta Drivers Released
http://www.geforce.co.uk/whats-new/articles/nvidia-geforce-340-43-beta-driver

[kamlkaze]

I have problem.
I use window 8 pro Nvidia Driver 327.23 WHQL , AO bit doesn't work (0x000C000E/0x000C000E )
Before that , I use window 7 AO bit it's work

someone can help me ? :-)

[chaoko99]

So it's not hooking on at all, and did you use the start up parameter?
Since it's happening to my guild leader too.
He can get it to work on BF4, but not PSO2

Aida, get a log of your Radeon Pro
http://www.radeonpro.info/manual/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/settings_general.jpg


And you can ask on the RadeonPro forum.
http://forum.radeonpro.info/bug-reports/535-radeonprosweetfx-not-hooking-onto-pso2
what you need to do is set the tweaker as your launcher, or pso2 launch, if you wish, and run radeonPRO as admin, then take every executable in the pso2 root folder and its subdirectories and make them run as admin as well (rclick properties yadayada) only then will it hook, sometimes it takes a few tries.

[Grippers]

what you need to do is set the tweaker as your launcher, or pso2 launch, if you wish, and run radeonPRO as admin, then take every executable in the pso2 root folder and its subdirectories and make them run as admin as well (rclick properties yadayada) only then will it hook, sometimes it takes a few tries.

I've tried this, and removing all administration privileges, RadeonPro just refuses to hook to PSO2. I recall it hooking pretty much 100% of the time earlier this year on the same OS and hardware configuration, but now it doesn't hook at all.

[pkemr4]

how can i get rid of that?
[SPOILER-BOX]http://puu.sh/a2Ywx/b6ed4f17e5.png[/SPOILER-BOX]
im using shizus settings btw