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Terizon
Apr 12, 2013, 09:47 PM
Does anyone have a build layout for a Hunter/Fighter and Ranger/Gunner
Glass Cannon = Sacrifice DFP for ATP. Max ATP possible.

Lostbob117
Apr 12, 2013, 09:53 PM
For Hunter/Fighter what weapon do you use, swords? Also what race are you?

SociableTyrannosaur
Apr 12, 2013, 09:57 PM
Build thread as a high output/no survival skills build for Hu/Fi.

TERAGON1996
Apr 13, 2013, 02:52 AM
Well the first thing you should do in Hu/Fi would be having S-atk max out to equip stronger weapons which will give you even higher ATP, then follow up with JA BONUS to even further your ATP. If you are a Cast then the race can further your ATP more and highest ATP weapons are swords.

SociableTyrannosaur
Apr 13, 2013, 03:03 AM
you want mods before S atk. the mods are much more important for damage.

Alisha
Apr 13, 2013, 03:34 AM
if you have the ability to get more tree's boosting s-atk early on could be beneficial. especially at lvl ranges where you dont have access to many modifiers.
ex. my lvl 26 cast currently sees a pitiful boost from lvl 5 fury.

SociableTyrannosaur
Apr 13, 2013, 03:50 AM
at level 26 my cast was doing about 700 with his normals on his zanba >_>

Syklo
Apr 13, 2013, 04:09 AM
I read Class Cannon.
XD.

Alisha
Apr 13, 2013, 05:01 AM
at level 26 my cast was doing about 700 with his normals on his zanba >_>
my cast uses WL and is caught in a weird spot in terms of itemization where a whole bunch of WL have attack differeneces of less than 100 so im waiting. also sword is a special case because i believe sword and wand are the only weapons do do more than 100% dmg normals.

SociableTyrannosaur
Apr 13, 2013, 06:06 AM
It says "Class Cannon".

Which deals more damage, the new broken Fury thing, or S-ATK itself?

New fury with ups and combo do 2x damage on JAs (so 2.6x damage really)

That alone is all kinds of ridiculous.

Since Hunter only has 1 S Atk up and so much comes from the left side of the tree, you're better off starting in that direction. get your sword gear and then make a bee line for fury stance.

on Fighter you can easily get step attack, both stances to 5, both ups to 10, all 3 gears and Max two S atk ups.

if you gun for all the S atk ups first yes you can equip stuff earlier but you'll be getting all your multipliers late meaning you'll be doing less damage late game when it counts.

Hrith
Apr 13, 2013, 09:22 AM
Melee glass cannons, great, more people emptying my moon atomiser stock.

SociableTyrannosaur
Apr 13, 2013, 09:28 AM
There's really no such thing. Unless they're stupid and opt for a 15 point S atk increase over 600 S def Def

Lostbob117
Apr 13, 2013, 09:36 AM
Melee glass cannons, great, more people emptying my moon atomiser stock.

If the person is using swords, they can use Sonic arrow which is ranged.

Rayden
Apr 13, 2013, 10:43 AM
There's really no such thing. Unless they're stupid and opt for a 15 point S atk increase over 600 S def Def
What do you mean? Where can I get an easy 600 S-DEF?

Z-0
Apr 13, 2013, 10:46 AM
If you're dying often as a Glass Cannon, you shouldn't be playing a Glass Cannon. :3

Players who are good at playing Glass Cannons don't die often. My melee and ranged have glass cannon builds and I don't die all the time at all.

Skyly HUmar
Apr 13, 2013, 12:15 PM
If you're dying often as a Glass Cannon, you shouldn't be playing a Glass Cannon. :3

Players who are good at playing Glass Cannons don't die often. My melee and ranged have glass cannon builds and I don't die all the time at all.

This all the way.

UnLucky
Apr 13, 2013, 04:25 PM
What do you mean? Where can I get an easy 600 S-DEF?

Elder set vs Ragne or Fen

Although Ragne isn't 600 S-Def, and Fen's bonus is more than 15 Atk lower

SociableTyrannosaur
Apr 13, 2013, 04:49 PM
That's true...damn hunter armor sucks

Anyway it's still 600 def or 35 S atk...kinda lol

Rayden
Apr 13, 2013, 06:04 PM
Oh, okay, thanks. But the Fen set is pretty much impossible to get, isn't it? The arm unit is insanely rare, and it costs 50-100 mil, and that's if there's even one for sale...

SociableTyrannosaur
Apr 13, 2013, 06:24 PM
ok...is 15 S tk worth 450 S def?

UnLucky
Apr 13, 2013, 06:30 PM
yeah, just don't get hit

TERAGON1996
Apr 13, 2013, 06:31 PM
Well, to able to survive through quests, you can go for automate in Hu tree and Gu tree which basically uses your mates quick enough if you keep on being attacked by enemies. Thus, you would need to learn how to not keep on being attacked by various enemies.

SociableTyrannosaur
Apr 13, 2013, 10:56 PM
kinda ruins the purpose of a glass cannon

Alisha
Apr 13, 2013, 11:17 PM
since the fury buff i miss automate :(

Eternal255
Apr 15, 2013, 02:00 PM
Here you go. The fighter build is essentially my fighter build. The hunter is different than mine as i go for iron will (i recommend that instead of the 15 points in fury crit + fury up 2). But if you want all out damage, go with this build.

You can optionally replace brave crit for chase advance, but i personally find crit much more useful than any sort of damage bonus based on status effect. Hell, most of the time you're gonna kill every enemy in a couple hits anyway, and chase doesnt work on (main) bosses, so...

Also, if you're doing HU/FI or FI/HU, you're already gonna have more than enough s-def to use the ragne 10* set, which gives you an additional +60s-atk and has really nice stats (pushing close to 1000 s-def at level 53/52 with no def boosters and only 25 s-def from mag)

I actually have 2 trees on hunter so i think i might try this out as well. Note you will have no weapon gear's for hunter weapons with this build, just pop out some points from one of the JA skills to get the desired gears (theyre honestly not that great really)

http://ryuhiroshi.funpic.de/pso2/skillcalc.php?04dAb3Ikb3Ikb3Ikb3Ikb3Ikb3Ik0lbInqnG KsN6JiGA00000ebsOJIcAqscA0000ib00000ib00007b000009 b000008

Also,

Daggers + Glass Cannon

UnLucky
Apr 15, 2013, 03:27 PM
As much as I enjoy your zero-gear build, I don't know if I would give up a 20% damage boost when attacking from behind.

SociableTyrannosaur
Apr 15, 2013, 03:38 PM
Hey man, 50 S atk means like 3% more damage. why would you want 20% damage half the time when you can have 3% all the time?

them critical hits are real handy too....you know doing at best 5% more damage 20% of the time...I know that would be high on my list. Definitely wouldn't want to do 40% bonus damage on anything that can get an SE. That would be dumb

Alisha
Apr 15, 2013, 05:54 PM
not arguing with you 2 but pretty much the only time i use wise is on falz hands