""Question about Online Life"

[eXo]

Hmmm OMG I cant believe this but,due to the recent information that I have heard Im so sorry to say that,im no longer looking foward to online life as much as before http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif
why you ask its simple because I was unaware of the fact,that you only find the items available to the person who makes the game.Which in my opinion kinda makes the whole idea of section "ID's" pretty pointless and overall that whole situation simply sucks.
Because if this is correct then basicly I can make a game with my purplenum character and be playing the caves enjoying myself having loads of fun when a oran,redria,whitill, etc..etc.. you get the picture http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif can join the game to help me but then midway through the run I might need to go back to Pioneer 2 for a quick restock on supplies when out of no where I hear "HOLY CRAP A MIL LILY" and as I break my neck to get back down to the caves the guy kills the "MIL LILY" and then the redria or whatever he//she is besides purplenum yells "OMFG" he dropped a "Psycho Wand" http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif

Now correct me if im wrong isnt that suppose to be my Psycho Wand ? I dont care if I didnt kill it *LOL* it came from me right? anyway over all am I wrong for feeling that this removes some of the fun out of item hunting?

one last quick thing this theory was confirmed by VulpesMundi,who is a p[retty reliable source for info
look .....




On 2003-04-03 02:56, VulpesMundi wrote:


On 2003-04-03 01:06, eXo wrote:
...and I am pretty sure if that was the way it worked ,they would have told me to just have a purplenum friend make a game for me then go Spread Needle Hunting right?? exactly http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif


Have a Purplenum friend make a team so you can hunt for a Spread Needle. Guntz is correct. The ID that makes the game/team is the ONLY ID in effect for finding items. It doesn't matter who kills what, the items are predetermined by the current leader's ID. The difference with online is that the ID will change to the next person who joined the team in chronological order if the team creator/leader leaves, and so on down the line.



maybe its just be but I really consider this feature a "BIG HUGE GIGANTIC" P.S.O Bummer

[Vantamiath]

So you're saying you wouldnt take a weapon found in someone elses game?

Im a bit confused, and if anything, this just makes the ID's MORE important-rather then "completly useless"

[SnAPPUrU-nyan-ko]

Section IDs would be pointless if they didn't have an effect on item drops. (smack)
Meow, it's really a free-for-all when it comes to looting. You didn't even attack the monster, so pupupu to you.

Or maybe the person wanted to make it look like they got a non-duped psycho wand, or wanted to piss you off ;3

[Joe-Azlin]

i think the way the game is set up makes it more fun because then u get a lil taste of all the section ids that ur not.

[LamerPanda]

Hey, I think it's useful.

If I find a Frozen Shooter and I need a Cure/Freeze, I can get a Redria friend to play with me. n.n It's nice being able to get items you can't find.

If there's something I'm looking for specifically, I'll only play with close friends that won't steal, online in a locked game, or offline.

[Blenjar]

Its just a game. Not a life.

[Yoda86]

Well, if you base your online experience on this one thing then yea, online is going to suck (in your opinion). However, look at the good side http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_yes.gif . You get to meet new friends and get to socialize with them.

Again, the idea of getting a rare based on the teammaker's ID can be useful. You could easily be a Ranger and have the baddest luck finding a Frozen Shooter from a Hildetor. So you join a game with a Whitill ID and lone behold there is a Hildetor, you kill it and get the long awaited Frozen Shooter.

This is just one example of how the ID thing can work to your greatest advantage, but don't let this one thing ruin your online gaming experience.

[eXo]

Hmm yeah thats nice and thats cool but all i really would like to know is, has P.S.O always been this way because I played P.S.O Dreamcast but it was dupe city so I never gave this a second thought :;

[saffaya]

This thread is exactly the point why I'm so glad I'm playing with Japanese players in PSO Xbox.
You see, when you play online there, you don't care who picks up what during Ragol exploration.
That's because EVERYBODY drops their findings on Pioneer 2 floor, for equitable split after the adventure.
Everyone sees what has been found, and says what he or she would like. If there is a tie for a particular object, a game of Rock/scissor/paper decides of the winner.
Thanks to that, my online play there is hassle FREE. And much more enjoyable. No stress of checking all monsters drops for the occasional red box.

[Foggy_Pete]

it is sort of nice to be able to toy around with rare monsters in offline mode but it doesnt outweigh playing with good friends and showing off the fruits of your labor. if im in a game with strangers and i find a rare monster i dont usualy announce it to the rest of the team
>_>
<_<
sneaky and dirty but i get most of the items from the rare monsters i find

[goaliedude10]

I like this feature, because this way, you will be able to find any item in the game, so If you are looking for a specific item you can just play with a friend of the needed sec. id.

[NekoHikari]

Whoa... if what Saffaya says is true than we Americans need to incorporate the same kind of honor system that the Japanese do- if everyone can trust one another to drop everything on the floor like that then by all means I would honor that trust to the fullest, and make an online community really worth playing for... Are you with me?!

After all, if you think about it... honor is everything.

[LegendaryMage]

Try telling it to those sticky finger n00bs.

I can see it now...

"Y Cant I kep al teh itms U jst drooped?"

[Riffin]

I like the idea too. Perhaps Mage, we should do this in our clan? I think so. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[Maelkith]

ideally this would be nice, but it isnt going to happen. to many beggars and grabby jerks are playing to make it feasible. and as an american, japanese players are not going to do it when i am in a game with them. they would assume that i am like other american jerks who swoop on any red box i see. i am usually a person who passes on red boxes, but how would they know that.

as far as section ids not being useful, how would a purplenum acquire a red sword if they didnt play in a different id game? how would anyone get a god battle if redria wasnt there? thank the pso gods for blueful and the imperial pick.

[Yoda86]

On 2003-04-04 22:26, NekoHikari wrote:
Whoa... if what Saffaya says is true than we Americans need to incorporate the same kind of honor system that the Japanese do- if everyone can trust one another to drop everything on the floor like that then by all means I would honor that trust to the fullest, and make an online community really worth playing for... Are you with me?!

After all, if you think about it... honor is everything.



I totally agree and wish that everyone would do the same thing that people in Japan are doing on PSO online as Saffaya described.

[Mello]

Hmmmmmmmm.... i think i know why the japanese use that system and not the normal one. why? because japanese are more loyal from their religons (Shinto and Buddhism) However i might be wrong.

[Mystil]

When someone picks up an item before me, it always pisses me off. Which is why I might play offline more often. But yeah the items avialiable to the person who makes the game is how you find stuff your ID can't find.

[Joe-Azlin]

i wish we could all trust eachother like the japanese but the fact is we cant lol so until then ill keep hording he items for myself http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[saffaya]

On 2003-04-05 01:21, Maelkith wrote:
ideally this would be nice, but it isnt going to happen. to many beggars and grabby jerks are playing to make it feasible. and as an american, japanese players are not going to do it when i am in a game with them. they would assume that i am like other american jerks who swoop on any red box i see.

It is alas true that a small number of ill-mannered players can give a bad name to the rest of normal ones.
I think that learning a bit of Japanese could help a lot. Just showing you have good manners would ease the situation tremendously.

[saffaya]

On 2003-04-05 06:32, Mello wrote:
Hmmmmmmmm.... i think i know why the japanese use that system and not the normal one. why? because japanese are more loyal from their religons (Shinto and Buddhism) However i might be wrong.

It doesn't have to do with religion.
The thing of utmost importance in Japanese society is harmony, 'Wa' as it is called. Human relations must go smoothly, so there is a set of social codes to help it.

In that respect, leaving the findings of the play for later and collegial repartition is simply 'the right thing to do'. That way, no one will end up with any hard feelings.

Exemple.
Yesterday, I played a VH EP2 from temple to Olga Flow on my ID and with my regular buddy. 2 others joined. We found several things including a Stinking frame 2 slots and an L&K14 Combat.
No one was interested by the mechguns, so I got them on the spot, and then lost at rock/scissor/paper for the frame.

[-Eden-]

Usually when I play, its free for all. Like when a Baranz dropped Egg Parts it was every man, women, and bot for his/her/itself. I managed to get them, but no one had a problem with it. We just try to trade to get it after the battles. If any problem I have online is when some lv150 HUmar finds lv30 Grants and keeps it for himself, so he can use IT ON HIS LVL 20 FONEWMEN that he won't even play.

*eye twitches* ok I'm done...

[LoreSeeker]

I look to see if it's a ranger rare. If it is, I jump on it. If it's a hunter or force rare, I leave it alone. Oh yeah, and if it's a Varista, I just drop it in a teleporter to laugh at the n00bs. That's always fun.

[Yoda86]

LMAO!!!!! That is really funny, but a little cruel.