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Mag_Launcher
Apr 7, 2003, 12:51 PM
I already said I based the types under their animations. Anyways, I see all of you have updated the weapons list, BUT, it's still not good enough. And the person who mentioned AUW numbers, take note that I DO NOT care what numbers they are, I am talking about types here. (Oh, I just now looked over the list. It's more fecked up than last time, good job! Not...)

Now, for the TRUE list, without human error... Again, these are based on attack animations. Oh, and when I say unique, I mean is in it’s different from it’s type. Like a rifle that spreads, etc.::

Gi-Gue Bazooka - Launcher
NUG-2000 Bazooka - Launcher
Club of Laconium - Cane
Battle Verge - Rod
Mace of Adaman - Cane
Brave Hammer - Rod
Alive Aqhu - Rod
Caduceus - Rod
Sting Tip - Cane
C-Sorcerer's Cane - Rod
Club of Zumiuran - Cane
Psycho Wand - Rod
Plantain Leaf - Rod
Summit Moon - Cane
Rabbit Wand - Rod
Flower Cane - Cane
Demonic Fork - Rod
Windmill - Cane
Evil Curst - Cane
Broom - Rod
Hildebear's Cane - Rod
Branch of Paku Paku - Rod
Hildeblue's Cane - Rod
Fatsia - Rod
Dark Bridge - Rod
Striker of Chao - Rod
Mahu - Card
Talis - Card
Purplenum Card - Card
Greenil Card - Card
Guardianna - Cane
Hitogata – Card
Bluefull Card - Card
Oran Card - Card
Pinkal Card - Card
Redria Card - Card
Skyly Card - Card
Viridia Card - Card
Whitill Card - Card
Yellowboze Card - Card
Gal Wind - Card
Photon Claw - Claw
Silence Claw - Claw
Nei's Claw - Claw
Dragon's Claw - Claw
Heart of Poumn - Claw
Booma's Claw - Claw
Gobooma's Claw - Claw
Gigobooma's Claw - Claw
Morning Glory - Claw
Rika's Claw - Claw
Blade Dance - Dagger
S-Beat's Blade - Dagger
Bloody Art - Dagger
Cross Scar - Dagger
P-Arm's Blade - Dagger
Red Dagger - Dagger
Twin Chakram - Dagger
Lavis Blade - Dagger
S-Red's Blade - Dagger
Wok Of Akiko's Shop - Dagger
S-Berrill's Hands #1 - Dagger
S-Berrill's Hands #0 - Dagger
Brave Knuckles - Fist
Angry Fist - Fist
Sonic Knuckle - Fist
God Hand - Fist
Varista - Handgun
Suppressed Gun - Handgun
Custom Ray ver.00 - Handgun
Heaven Punisher - Handgun
Bravace - Handgun
Red Handgun - Handgun
Yasminkov 2000H - Handgun
Handgun:Milla - Handgun
Handgun:Guld - Handgun
Ruby Bullet - Handgun
Akiko's Frying Pan - Katana
Agito (AUW 1977) - Katana
Agito (AUW 1975) Real - Katana
Orotiagito - Katana
Agito (AUW 1980) - Katana
Agito (AUW 1983) - Katana
Agito (AUW 1991) - Katana
Agito (AUW 2001) - Katana
Harisen Battle Fan - Katana
Toy Hammer - Katana
Yamigarusu - Katana
Akiko's Wok - Katana
Kamui - Katana
Sange - Katana
Yasha - Katana
M&A60 Vise - Mechgun
H&S 25 Justice - Mechgun
L&K14 Combat - Mechgun
Samba Maracas - Mechgun
Red Mechgun - Mechgun
Twin Psychogun - Mechgun
Yasminkov 9000M - Mechgun
Guld Milla - Mechgun
Vjaya - Partisan
Gae Bolg - Partisan
Soul Eater - Partisan
Brionac - Partisan
Soul Banish - Partisan
Imperial Pick - Partisan
Huge Battle Fan - Sword
Madam's Umbrella - Partisan
Berdysh - Partisan
Chameleon Scythe - Partisan
Red Partisan - Partisan
Plantain Huge Fan - Partisan
Madam's Parasol - Partisan
Victor Axe – Sword/Semi-unique (Hits only 1 enemy at a time)
Guilty Light - Launcher
Snow Queen - Rifle
Burning Visit - Shot/Unique
Red Scorpio - Launcher
Photon Launcher - Launcher
Visk 235W - Rifle
Justy 23ST - Rifle
Wals MK2 - Rifle
Bringer's Rifle - Rifle
Holy Ray - Rifle
Anti Android Rifle - Rifle
Yasminkov 7000V - Rifle
Yasminkov 3000R - Rifle
Frozen Shooter - Rifle
Angel Harp - Rifle
Ano Rifle - Rifle
Spread Needle - Rifle/Unique
Egg Blaster - Rifle

(S Ranks not listed, self explanatory.)

Kaladbolg - Saber
Delsaber's Buster - Saber
Durandal - Saber
Lavis Cannon - Saber
Ancient Saber - Saber
Red Saber - Saber
Elysion - Saber
DB's Sword (AUW 3062) - Saber
DB's Sword (AUW 3064) - Saber
DB's Sword (AUW 3067) - Saber
DB's Sword (AUW 3069) - Saber
DB's Sword (AUW 3070) - Saber
DB's Sword (AUW 3073) - Saber
DB's Sword (AUW 3075) - Saber
DB's Sword (AUW 3077) - Saber
DB's Saber - Saber
DB's Sword (AUW 3069) - Saber
Flame Visit - Shot/Unique
Maser Beam - Shot/Unique
Power Maser - Shot/Unique
Dark Meteor – Shot/Unique
Inferno Bazooka - Shot/Unique
Crush Bullet - Shot
Meteor Smash - Shot
Final Impact - Shot
Baranz Launcher – Shot/Semi-Unique (Shoots 4 instead of 5)
Diska of Braveman - Slicer
Slicer of Assasin - Slicer
Diska of Liberator - Slicer
Flight Cutter - Slicer
Red Slicer - Slicer
Rappy's Fan - Slicer
Flight Fan - Slicer
Rainbow Baton - Slicer
Dragon Slayer - Sword
Flowen's Sword - Sword
Last Survivor - Sword
Chain Sawd - Sword
Red Sword - Sword
Sealed J-Sword - Sword
Crazy Tune - Sword
Flowen's Sword (AUW-3064) - Sword
Flowen's Sword (AUW-3079) - Sword
Flowen's Sword (AUW-3060) - Sword
Flowen's Sword (AUW-3067) - Sword
Flowen's Sword (AUW-3073) - Sword
Flowen's Sword (AUW-3077) - Sword
Flowen's Sword (AUW-3082) - Sword
Flowen's Sword (AUW-3083) - Sword
Flowen's Sword (AUW-3084) - Sword
Zanba - Sword
Dark Flow - Sword
Tsumikiri J-Sword - Sword
Double Saber - Double-Edged Saber
Stag Cutlery - Double-Edged Saber
Twin Brand - Double-Edged Saber
Monkey King Bar - Double-Edged Saber
Meteor Cudgel - Double-Edged Saber
Twin Blaze - Double-Edged Saber
Demolition Comet – Double-Edged Saber
Double Cannon – Double-Edged Saber
Black King Bar – Double-Edged Saber
Partisan of Lightning – Double-Edged Saber
G-Assassin's Sabers - Twin Swords
Musashi - Twin Swords
Yamato - Twin Swords
Asuka - Twin Swords
Sange & Yasha - Twin Swords
Panzer Faust - Shot/Unique
Rocket Punch - Mechgun/Unique
Belra Cannon - Shot/Unique
Game Magazine - Wand
Drill Launcher - Rifle
The Sigh Of A God - Wand
Dancing Hitogata - Card/Unique
Prophet's of Motav - Wand
Iron Faust – Shot/Unique
Fire Sceptor: AGNI - Wand
Storm Wand: Indra - Wand
Ice Staff: Dagon - Wand
Magical Piece - Wand
Technical Crozier - Wand
Twinkle Star - Wand
Plantain Fan - Wand

dj_dan
Apr 7, 2003, 05:55 PM
Your classifications based on attack animations is a little flawed.

According to you, a Saber and a Cane would both actually be Saber Types. For an example of what I mean, select a FOmar and give him both of those weapons then observe the animations.

While *generally* you should go off the animations, it wouldn't be wise to base all your decisions on them.

If you look at the two Bazooka's (Gi-Gue, and NUG2000)... while both have the "Photon Launcher" animation, they have nothing in common with photon launchers.
Photon Launchers shoot enemies in a straight line, or in very very tightly packed groups, while the two Bazooka's have a much wider area of effect.

What should really be done, is make a new weapon type, Bazooka-Type.

***Edit***
I just noticed you have GUARDIANNA as a Cane. It should be listed as a Card Weapon.

**Another Edit, as I work my way down the list**

Burning Visit. You have it down as Shot/Unique.
While it's attack animation is that of a shot, it's attack properties are that of a Photon Launcher.
If I were to choose between a NUG2000 and a Burning Visit, I'd say the Burning Visit is more of a Photon Launcher than the NUG2000.

***FINAL EDIT, I promise***

Ok there are a few other things to list, but I'll just say one.

Game Magazine and Prophet's of Motav. These are books. If anything should be classified as Unique, it would be these two weapons.

You say it's a wand type.. think about it though.. how can a Book be a Wand? It can't. I'll say this again, just because weapons *share* the same animation, it doesn't mean they are the same weapon class. You can look to my Saber/Cane comment at the top of my response.

Another point, Wands are ONLY EQUIPPABLE by Forces. However any class can equip the Game Magazine. My HUcast will do that silly little FOnewm animation when uses the Magazine, but that doesn't mean it's a Wand type.

I'm just trying to give examples for my views, so you can see I'm not being argumentative.




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