Unit testing, Ragne vs Black Luxe

[Shiyo]

I tested +0 Black Luxe vs +0 Ragne units today. I wanted to see how big of a difference the damage taken was, so I could decide on which units to affix/grind for my GU. Take note, for some odd reason Black Luxe start at less SDEF than ragne, but at +10 have more SDEF than ragne. I don't understand that at all, considering they start at less and are 9 star vs ragne's 10 star meaning ragne should get more out of grinding.

This entire test was vs level 53 Org Blan as a 53 Braver/41 Techer with 0 SDEF on mag. The main sub I use is HU, which gives me 10 more SDEF than this TE sub(used entirely for testing, wanted cheap self healing). I assume with the 10 more SDEF, the additional SDEF luxe units provide would make them even a bit better than ragne.

ragne
swipe: 311 315 348
throw: 207 186 217 215
flop: 367 390 356 404 379 389
pound: 541 621 556

luxe
swipe: 329 371 309 344 346
throw :188 209 169 214
flop: 409 416 363 380 390 456 437
pound: 640 684 629(infected) 680

vardha
swipe: 368 301 350 310 306 317 374
throw: 170 203 178 158 149
flop: 372 381 386 392 365 407
pound: 549 609 554 622



My conclusion is that the difference is very small when comparing ragne to Luxe, would be even smaller at +10, and striking resist doesn't seem to be all that great. Is it true that ragne units are 12% striking resist? I personally think that if you want to survive, without stacking insane amounts of SDEF, you need to invest in HP affixes. So for my GU, since I will not be investing in HP affixes, I would prefer the more PP and DEX black luxe give me. If you get 1 shot in black luxe units, you'll generally get 1 shot by the same attack with Ragne, Vardha's additional HP would pull through and keep you alive, but I'm not so sure about the additional 117 SDEF it provides over Luxe. Pretty small overall compared to ragne at +0, the striking resist being much better than 102 additional SDEF. I would guess that the striking resist makes ragne overall more damage reduction than Vardha at +10 as well, showing that only really HP matters, so if you aren't affixing with HP you'll prob get 1 shot by the same attack that 1 shots you wearing black luxe as you would wearing vardha/ragne, the +110 HP being the only real determining factor, not the SDEF or the striking resist.

edit: Forgot to change title to reflect that I also added/tested vardha, oops!

[UnLucky]

Luxe wings actually have higher defensive values across the board than the 10* boss sets, just their focus is in T-Def. Also units of any rarity have the same grind scaling, so the wings would always have higher S-Def than Ragne except with affixes.

It looks like the Dex from the Luxe set is helping to bring down your minimum damage, but with so few samples it's hard to tell. Do you remember if any of them were critical hits? This would help determine the maximum damage the attacks can deal, which appear to be highest with the Luxe set equipped, but Ragne and Vardha are so close that any perceived advantage could just be variance.

[Shiyo]

Dex helps you take less damage? Source please.

[gigawuts]

Uh, it's kind of a well known fact considering how dex works. Your dex is compared with the enemy's to determine your minimum damage spread - the opposite is also true.

[Shiyo]

Uh, it's kind of a well known fact considering how dex works. Your dex is compared with the enemy's to determine your minimum damage spread - the opposite is also true.

Never knew that, awesome, ty! Also can't remember if any attacks on me were crits, but I'm pretty sure none were. I was using my mag with +54 dex, on GU my mag has zero dex so that'd actually make luxe even better ;D