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*Godly*
Aug 16, 2013, 05:24 PM
I've seen people hit like 3k per shot and I'm only hitting like 1k

Xaeris
Aug 16, 2013, 05:29 PM
We're going to need more information than that. Level, equipment, skill tree, etc.

Dinosaur
Aug 16, 2013, 05:37 PM
flip

JA

hit weak point

Coatl
Aug 16, 2013, 05:46 PM
become pro

*Godly*
Aug 16, 2013, 05:47 PM
Currently using 33 lightning yasm9000 lv 3 potential using dista back piece with shoot 3 stamina 3 and mixer soul and on the body slots I'm using lucky rise set

Gunner lv 59 hunter lv 27

Xaeris
Aug 16, 2013, 05:47 PM
Currently using 33 lightning yasm9000 lv 3 potential using dista back piece with shoot 3 stamina 3 and mixer soul and on the body slots I'm using lucky rise set

Gunner lv 59 hunter lv 27

I think I found your problem.

*Godly*
Aug 16, 2013, 05:50 PM
Well that's what I thought but what hunter skills should I invest in to get the best build

Xaeris
Aug 16, 2013, 05:55 PM
At level 27, you just don't have enough points to spend to begin with. Your Hunter tree should look something like this: http://ryuhiroshi.funpic.de/pso2/skillcalc.php?05eIb3Ikb3Ikb3Ikb3Ikb3Ikb3Ikb3Ik0jeb IoqnGKsN6sNfGA000007b000009b000009b00000ib000000lb 000000lb00000f

But right now, it looks something more like this: http://ryuhiroshi.funpic.de/pso2/skillcalc.php?05eIb3Ikb3Ikb3Ikb3Ikb3Ikb3Ikb3Ik0jeb IoqnGDb0000000b000009b000009b00000ib000000lb000000 lb00000f

You should level it more. Like, 45 at a minimum, since the exp curve doesn't quite get stupid yet and you can do the second SP order.

sekkai
Aug 16, 2013, 06:31 PM
Sorry for barging in but why the extra points on step? Woudnt they be better used on Fury Stance 2?

Im not judging, just curious

Celille
Aug 16, 2013, 07:35 PM
You need the 3 points in step advance to get step attack to get just reversal, which is something you'll want on any job you are playing. You could spend the 2 points in the GU tree to get it but people who only use HU as a subjob and never as a main feel that those 2 points are probably better off somewhere else.

Coatl
Aug 16, 2013, 07:43 PM
Just reveral isn't worth 5% dmg you are missing out on. I suggest you forget just reveral on the HU tree and put those 5 points into Fury S up 2.

Chdata
Aug 16, 2013, 07:48 PM
Here's my GuHu.

http://ryuhiroshi.funpic.de/pso2/skillcalc.php?05eIb3Ikb3Ikb3Ikb3Ikb3Ikb3Ikb3Ik0lbI nqnGKsN6JiGA000007b000009b000009b2QHSfbncDfgAbp000 7b000000lb000000lOqB4NdnfsNJ2HnId0006

Gu I'm still debating on what I'll put the last points into though. Probably 2 points in attack pp restore with just reversal.

UnLucky
Aug 16, 2013, 08:05 PM
Don't bother maxing Fury Stance before Fury Combo Up. Even for Striking attacks, each point in FS is only 1%. FC is 2%. Unless you really care about the extra damage received, it's better DPS to go straight for Fury Combo.

Xaeris
Aug 16, 2013, 08:06 PM
If he had a 60 Hunter and was talking about using a skill reset ticket, I'd tell him to go 10 in Fury Stance Up 2. He has a 27 Hunter. Realistically, he has to actually level up Hunter; his Hunter tree has to serve as a subclass tree and as a main class tree. Not having any gears or Just Guard is bad enough. Not having Step Attack just to preserve 5% damage down the line is kind of insane.

*Godly*
Aug 16, 2013, 08:10 PM
Thanks for all your feedback I guess I have to lv hunter this is gonna take for forever I might as well just use my lv 60 ra as a subclass at least then I'll have wb

*Godly*
Aug 20, 2013, 04:49 AM
Bump got my hunter to lv 43 and still not seeing the numbers what am I doing wrong?

UnLucky
Aug 20, 2013, 04:57 AM
Use Fury Stance (with Fury Combo), SRoll JA and shoot the bullets out of the gun real fast

You could also get a full set of units that give you bonus Atk with Atk affixes on each one, but that wouldn't be as big of a difference as a proper skill tree.

loool
Aug 20, 2013, 07:19 AM
Oh gosh. I was playing around with this class and it is ownage.

*Godly*
Aug 20, 2013, 12:05 PM
I guess mines is broking cause I'm using some roll and I'm only hitting 1k

Zenobia
Aug 20, 2013, 01:01 PM
I guess mines is broking cause I'm using some roll and I'm only hitting 1k

Dude what are your affixes and what weps are you using post a pic god damn lol.

Work with us not against us....

strikerhunter
Aug 20, 2013, 01:20 PM
I guess mines is broking cause I'm using some roll and I'm only hitting 1k

Are you attacking during roll? If I remember correctly, it cancels out the bonus for JA even if you land a JA at the end of the roll.


S Roll--->Don't attack--->Wait for JA frame--->PA for x2 damage.

KuroKanden
Aug 20, 2013, 01:49 PM
Are you attacking during roll? If I remember correctly, it cancels out the bonus for JA even if you land a JA at the end of the roll.


S Roll--->Don't attack--->Wait for JA frame--->PA for x2 damage.

They've fixed that issue as of the latest update. The bonus should still apply even if you shoot during the roll, as long as your JA comes out by the end of the roll.

*Godly*
Aug 20, 2013, 03:07 PM
Yes I got it now thank you guys

TaigaUC
Aug 23, 2013, 02:18 AM
So it's the new S roll JA bonus skill that makes Gu/Hu work?
That explains my problem then.

I haven't tried the new skills as I haven't heard much about them and I'd have to spend a reset ticket.
Thanks for the info.

*Godly*
Aug 23, 2013, 04:26 AM
So it's the new S roll JA bonus skill that makes Gu/Hu work?
That explains my problem then.

I haven't tried the new skills as I haven't heard much about them and I'd have to spend a reset ticket.
Thanks for the info.

Yeah u ended up needing to buy a second skill tree

Vyrielle
Aug 23, 2013, 04:56 AM
well not really, I've been using GuHu since before the buff, practically stronger than GuRa, if you don't use weak bullet that is.

SRoll JA bonus makes TMG users stronger, no matter what sub you have

TaigaUC
Aug 24, 2013, 11:04 AM
Ah. Well, apparently it was also because I didn't know you had to spam buttons to get more shots. I should read the PA descriptions some day.

Anyway, I have a few questions regarding this thing, if nobody minds answering.
1. I can't seem to get the SRoll JA bonus to be consistent. Should I be cancelling when the circle is still blue, or red, or in between?
2. Does simply SRolling activate Fury Combo, or should I shoot first?
3. Does the bonus only work for a single PA? I can't do SRoll into a PA and then another PA?
4. Why does the JA circle sometimes not appear when SRolling?

Project Astral
Aug 24, 2013, 11:56 AM
1. I don't completely understand what you're asking but all you have to do to get the S Roll JA Bonus is shift roll and then use your PA on the JA circle that appears when it turns red just like any other JA.

2. Simply S Rolling works to activate Fury Combo (remember it is just a flat JA bonus while Fury Stance is up regardless of the skill name) but you may want to consider shooting during the flip anyways so you can get a little bit of damage out and regen some PP.

3. Only the first PA in the combo will get the bonus so you will have to set up multiple palettes of the same weapon with different PAs on the first slot to make the most out of it.

4. No idea on this one.

UnLucky
Aug 24, 2013, 12:03 PM
Landing on the ground when SRolling in the air might cancel the JA, but I climb stairs with it sometimes so maybe not.

You might be holding the attack key so you just go straight into your attack while skipping the JA?

TaigaUC
Aug 24, 2013, 09:41 PM
Nope, I just right click once when the circle turned red, but it didn't seem to always kick in, so I tried other timing.
I think it tended to not work if I jumped first to get more red circle time.

Thanks for clearing things up with your replies, Project Astral and Unlucky.

pkemr4
Aug 24, 2013, 10:18 PM
i hold the shift key in while rolling and once the ring turns red i use my PA also Gu/Hu is better only if you use the rolls + fury stance (with ja bonus) + chain and the target was hti by weakbullet by someone...

Project Astral
Aug 25, 2013, 11:17 PM
4. Why does the JA circle sometimes not appear when SRolling?

Just mentioning this but I found a couple reasons why this may be happening.

1. You may be S Rolling and going above the height cap. Not only will it stop you from shooting the mid-flip shots but it will also stop the JA at the end from appearing.

or

2. If you are accidentally hitting the shift or attack buttons twice (or more) during the flip it will also cause the JA circle to not show up.

Surprisingly ran into both of those today on accident while doing XQs haha

strikerhunter
Aug 25, 2013, 11:23 PM
^

The JA frame doesn't last too long after S Roll, it's gone in less than a second.

It's harder to do when Rolling into a higher elevation because the Roll gets interrupted by the landing or what-so-ever thus making the JA frame appear early or not appear at all.

Doing JA S Roll in the air with no obstacles or doing it on ground is much easier. In the air, just time it. On ground, hit the ground and PA or little above it.

Zenobia
Aug 26, 2013, 03:46 AM
These GU/RA threads need to stop go here instead god....

http://www.pso-world.com/forums/showthread.php?t=200779