Affix help

[suzaku0zero0]

What is the cheapest method to get soma soul, power 3, shoot 3 and random on a unit?

Should I just use materials with soul and shoot 3, other have soul and power 3?
Or both materials should have all 3 affix?

[Walkure]

Soulx3 leads to 80% affix rate which can be bumped to 100% with a +20% booster.
Pow IIIx2 and Shoot IIIx2 will lead to 80%, which will also be 100% with a +20% booster.

I'm assuming you're going to use Spirita Boost or something on the last slot. If you're using an expensive ____ boost item then the 100% method is probably going to be the best method in all situations.

I'm sure, that through comparing potential fodder costs and whatnot, there may be a lower cost of doing things for 2-3 slots, but 4 slot items with boosters will probably have too high of a cost for failing to make up for it.

[suzaku0zero0]

Most likely I would need to make the fodders

[.Jack]

Make everything from scratch, as in buying a ton or power i,x,x,x - shooti,x,x,x - soma,x,x,x junk. Make the III out of those with the help of mutationi,x,x,x. That'll save you a good chunk of meseta.

[UnLucky]

3->4 with 100% affixes is 60/60/60/60, or ~13% chance to succeed. Even with a +30% booster, that's not much more than 65% overall.

Something that was 80% before will become 48% when expanding to 4s.

So keep that in mind when looking for 4s fodder compared to making your own.

If a 4s item has no Soul or Stat3 on it, then two items with a Soul gives 50% transfer rate, one item with a Stat3 is 60%, or two items with the same Stat3 is 80%. If you have two items with the same Soul and a different Stat3 each, you'll get 50/60/60/100 = 18%. You could also try two fodders with the same Soul and same Stat3 for 50/80/100/100 = 40%, but you'll need another attempt for the other Stat3.

Starting with a Soul, two other items with the same Soul gives 80% transfer rate, but if at least one of them doesn't also have a Stat3, you won't get anywhere. You'll likely have to combine two Souls with one Stat3 for 50/60/100/100 = 30%. If you use two fodder with your desired end result, namely Soul+Stat3+Stat3, then your chances are 80/80/80/100 = 41%, though you can just use a booster for 100%.

With Soul+Stat3, the minimum necessary would be one Soul and the other Stat3 for 50/60/60/100 = 18%. If both fodder have the same Soul each with a different Stat3, then you'll get 60/80/80/100 = 38.4%. If one fodder has Soul+Stat3+Stat3, and the other is Soul+Stat3 (not the same as target item) then you'll have 80/80/80/100 and can +20% it from there.

[Shinamori]

Make everything from scratch, as in buying a ton or power i,x,x,x - shooti,x,x,x - soma,x,x,x junk. Make the III out of those with the help of mutationi,x,x,x. That'll save you a good chunk of meseta.

Mutation boosts power/shoot/tech?

[.Jack]

Mutation boosts power/shoot/tech?

In creating III's, yes.

[Shinamori]

Here I've been using Fang to boost Power and Fang to boost Tech. ;E

[UnLucky]

Fang/Mizer/Quartz boost the transfer rate of their respective Stat3.

Mutation boosts going from Stat2->Stat3

[Asellus]

And remember to always expect the unexpected to happen, I'm waiting for that 100% to fail.

[suzaku0zero0]

And remember to always expect the unexpected to happen, I'm waiting for that 100% to fail.

poor 5% fail

[suzaku0zero0]

ok I currently got a fodder with (power 2, shoot 2, random, random) [call it Fodder A]

which method is cheaper and has a higher chance of success:?
(to make a unit with Soul, power3, shoot3, random)

(1)
Fodder A with Fodder B [Soul, power2, random, random] Fodder C [Soul, Shoot2, random, random] to make Fodder D [Soul, power2, shoot2, random]

then use Fodder D, Fodder D, Fodder E [Soul, Mutation, random, random]


(2)
Fodder A with Fodder B [Soul, random, random, random] Fodder C [Soul, random, random, random]


(3) any other method?