Fodder advice...

[Ran Yakumo]

Normally I would buy fodders and affix my weapons/Units.But somehow, I think making fodders is cheap than buying them from shops.

I usually buy 3-slotted Fodders (Soul/Atk-III/junk) so I would like to ask how do you make fodders?

Three and four slots, to be specific.

[Arksenth]

Two souls, one III, gives you a 50%/60% chance (or a 30% chance of both) that you can then boost with a 10% booster for a 60%/70% chance (42% chance). I wouldn't use anything more than a 10% booster for fodders, unless you're doing something like 5 or 6 slot fodders or doing multiple non-junk additions. The odds aren't great, but if you're math savvy enough you can figure out through probability if it's likely to be more expensive to buy or make.

[.Jack]

2 or 3 slots I make the attack III out of npc units(see below). You can affix as many as you want and won't notice a dent in your meseta as they only cost 300 meseta per affix.

4 slots is mostly just buying cheap I.x.x.x in player shops. Check for these from time to time and right after an EQ.

Mix 2 II's and a mutation for a 60% chance at the attack III. see post #2 for the rest.

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[Ran Yakumo]

I'll do the math for now.

Wish me luck!

[UnLucky]

2 or 3 slots I make the attack III out of npc units(see below).
To make a 2s fodder from those is a 70/70 chance, or 49% overall. With the attempt cost at 2060 (2x880+300), the expected value of the end result would be 4204.

Or you could use three for a 75/75 chance for 56.25% overall, but the attempt cost is 3090, and the expected value is 5493 meseta.

There are a bunch of 2s Stat1 units for less than that here on Ship 2.

To make a 3s fodder from 2s units that cost 1050 each (a quarter of the price from above), you have a 60/60/60 chance (21.6%) at 2400 per attempt with an expected total cost of 11k, or 70/70/70 (34.3%) at 3600 for 10.5k.

There are twenty 3s units with Shoot I for 10.5k or cheaper for sale right now on Ship 2. 3s Technique I fodder goes as low as 1k.

Making a 3s StatII using 3s Stat1 (10k ea) would cost 30-40k
Making a 3s StatIII using 3s Stat2 (30k ea) would cost around 200k
Making a 3s StatIII using 1s Stat1 by first expanding to 3s then combining would cost around 800k

If you instead try 1s Stat1 -> 2s Stat II -> 3s Stat III with fewer intermediate steps, the end cost would be around 9k for the 2s, and 185k for the 3s. But note that the chance of success is lower than 11% with an attempt cost at around 20k (two of your 2s fodders + one 1k trash) so your mileage may vary.

Personally I would just buy the 3s fodder for 200-250k and save all of this hassle and randomness.

[.Jack]

^ Once you get the hang of it the overall chance to make a III.x.x falls in around 50k-100k. I doubt anyone is making a 3 1.x.x 1*s and putting them together but rather just making 1 and then using 2 others found or bought in the 1-10k range from shops. 1 I.x.x 10-20k at most plus 2 bought or found = 80% at a II.x.x for under 50k, double that for your overall mutation included.

If you check the market, there's a reason why most of it come in 1*s 880s and not random units. This has been done for a very long time now and it's an easy way to double any amount you want to invest doing so. Just make sure you have plenty of space, lol :D

[UnLucky]

It's definitely smart to use at least one 1* to stick everything onto so your later affixing costs are reduced.

And of course, cheap supply on the market can run out.

[Coatl]

You have to also factor in how time consuming affixing in that convoluted manner would be. Some people would pay an extra 100-200k more just to have something done 20-30 minutes quicker.

[.Jack]

And dealing with RNG 1 and 2, lol. It's not for everyone.

[Asellus]

Normally I would buy fodders and affix my weapons/Units.But somehow, I think making fodders is cheap than buying them from shops.

I usually buy 3-slotted Fodders (Soul/Atk-III/junk) so I would like to ask how do you make fodders?

Three and four slots, to be specific.


That depends, what ship are you on?^^

[UnLucky]

http://i.imgur.com/Thc60OJ.png

Hey look, a funny screenshot about lying percentages.

oh wait D:

[Shinamori]

Took me like what? 10mins to make two Vibrace Vol/PowerIII/StaminaIII units.

[Saffran]

You silly, silly people. Just extend any good fodder you find...

[UnLucky]

And end up with trash units with no set bonus or S-Res? No thanks.

[Ran Yakumo]

That depends, what ship are you on?^^

Ship 7

[Asellus]

Ship 7

Oh well in that case I'll send you a PM.