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batokage
Feb 3, 2014, 02:22 PM
I've almost saved enough excubes to afford a PB change device. Can anyone post a link of a vid on youtube or w/e showing what Ilios Imera and Ilios Nifta do specifically, as the descriptions on cirnopedia don't tell me enough of the specifics. I've looked through youtube for a while and only found a vid of ilios proi, which is cool, but I'm a GU/TE, so I'm wondering if Imera or Nifta might be more useful for me.

edit: Or if anyone would describe to me in detail how they work that would be amazing too. I think I understand how proi works so its just imera and nifta I'm curious about.

batokage
Feb 3, 2014, 05:58 PM
Never mind. For anyone who does want to see them, but hasn't happened upon the thread I just found, here it is:

http://www.pso-world.com/forums/showthread.php?t=210639

Emp
Feb 3, 2014, 06:55 PM
I highly suggest using Ketos Proi. Yes its not an attacking PB but it helps u and the rest of the mpa during pse bursts. The faster each player regens their pp in a pse burst will greatly effect the life and duration of the burst.

I just see the effectiveness of attacking PBs. Solo questing, attacking ones may help but I like to look at the bigger picture. Support the mpa, not just yourself.

batokage
Feb 5, 2014, 09:31 AM
I've seen a few vids showing ketos proi and see it is the only support PB. I hadn't considered using that one before but you make a good point...

Also, is there any utility that can be gotten out of Julius Nifta? or is it just a glorified zondeel after territory burst?

gigawuts
Feb 5, 2014, 10:01 AM
There are 3 real support-oriented PBs: Cetos Proi (PP for Self & MPA, more frequent invulnerability triggers for self), Cetos Nifta (Swirling AOE damage + Resta inside the ring when it's done), and Julius Nifta (Large Zondeel).

Julius Nifta's range is tremendous. I mean, it's the size of most of the grid. When chained with a couple damage PBs this thing will let the other PBs smash everything in the field to chunky bits of meseta and 3* weapons. That said, it basically requires a chain to last any noteworthy amount of time, so it's kind of useless. It's also not going to be helpful against anything you can't vacuum, like most large bosses.

Cetos Proi is by far the most versatile simply because of its frequent trigger rate. You get more invuln, more PP, and are more likely to be ready for a chain to boost other PBs (which means it does indeed have offensive value). I have this PB on my tatk mags, my main satk mag, and my ratk mag. Everything benefits.

edit: also here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Us2SbdUpCrs

TaigaUC
Feb 5, 2014, 10:31 AM
By more frequent invulnerability triggers, does that mean Photon Blast gauge speed varies depending on the Blast used?

I thought Cetus Ploi wasn't as good for non-casters because they don't regen PP during attacks.
I noticed that it's good for stuff like everyone spamming travel PAs though.
Particularly useful during wave 4 of Tower Defense.

I got an Ilios Ploi? (the melee guy with the sword) or whatever on my new Braver.
The extra damage is nice sometimes and it looks kinda cool.
Doesn't feel like he really keeps up with my strikes though.

gigawuts
Feb 5, 2014, 10:46 AM
Yeah, different PBs have different charge rates. Cetos Proi fills crazy fast, so fast that you can refill it before it finishes if you deal enough damage. And then get another one. At the same time.

http://www.pso-world.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3074224&postcount=364

TaigaUC
Feb 5, 2014, 11:18 AM
Thanks. That explains a lot.
I always thought it was just melee sucking balls and failing to get the kills.

Yeah, all my casters with Cetus Ploy get constant PBs at a ridiculously fast rate.

Arksenth
Feb 5, 2014, 11:49 AM
Ketos Nifta doesn't actually cast resta. People were just confused because a friend partner cast resta at the same time in that video from like a year ago showcasing all the PBs, and then it sort of became a myth. I've seen it before, all it does is the electrical field.

gigawuts
Feb 5, 2014, 12:05 PM
Ketos Nifta doesn't actually cast resta. People were just confused because a friend partner cast resta at the same time in that video from like a year ago showcasing all the PBs, and then it sort of became a myth. I've seen it before, all it does is the electrical field.

Well that's completely useless.

batokage
Feb 5, 2014, 01:58 PM
So then is the damage done by the PB based on your mag's specific atk stat or is it based on your's at the time of activating it?

gigawuts
Feb 5, 2014, 02:00 PM
Your total atk when damage is applied. You can change to a higher atk weapon mid-PB to get increased damage.

Sayara
Feb 5, 2014, 02:08 PM
Julius Nifta lover here. Using this plus Cluster Bullet or Elder Rebellion for ridiculiously satisfying results.

HIT0SHI
Feb 5, 2014, 02:14 PM
Ilios Nifta with Infinite Fire. That is all.

TaigaUC
Feb 5, 2014, 03:04 PM
Ketos Nifta doesn't actually cast resta

And here I was thinking, "A PB that heals? That's pretty good design!"
I should have known better.


So then is the damage done by the PB based on your mag's specific atk stat or is it based on your's at the time of activating it?

It's based on the type of PB. For example, getting the melee version of Ilius relies on SATK. The horse that charges back and forth also relies on SATK.
I don't remember any of the others. The JP swiki specifically states which stat each of them relies upon.

batokage
Feb 5, 2014, 03:31 PM
I ended up going with Ilius Imera, and feel like a BAWS when using it. it may not do a helluva lot of damage but it does put the trashy damage ajax nifta did to shame and looks a lot cooler.