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HeyItsTHK
Aug 30, 2014, 12:17 PM
I feel like I should get power increases when I can but I dunno if that's wise.

I'm still no Force expert.

GALEFORCE
Aug 30, 2014, 12:46 PM
Any techs in particular?

Maenara
Aug 30, 2014, 01:06 PM
Efficient Sazan
Umbral Namegid
Umbral Megid
Efficient Barta
Ice Fang Nabarta
Concentrated Gifoie
Concentrated Ilbarta(Unless you use Elysion)

HeyItsTHK
Aug 30, 2014, 08:07 PM
Thanks, Maenara


Any techs in particular?

Out of fire, ice, dark and wind.

Bellion
Aug 30, 2014, 08:45 PM
I have no idea what the english names are for the tech customization, so whatever. Assume all crafts are of level 3.

Foie types:
Foie - Power+/PP reduction are both good
Rafoie - Power+ to kill shit
Gifoie - Power+^
Shifta - Both are not bad at level 3 crafts, prefer the lower interval times for the extra and faster pulses.
Nafoie - Power+
Ilfoie - Charge time reduction. Just use PPJ, PB, or PP Convert to gain PP back if it's a problem.

Barta types:
Barta - Power+
Gibarta - Power+
Rabarta - Lower intervals of time between hits. This adds an extra rabarta hit for a bit more damage anyway.
Nabarta - Power+(get Elysion obviously)
IlBarta - Power+(should probably get an Elysion though)

Zan types:
Razan - Lower intervals of time between hits. This one specifically to knock out a switch at any distance fully charged because it hits 5 times instead of 3 now with this customization.
Sazan - Lower PP (should get an Elysion but you had better not use this on certain bosses and push them)
Ilzan - Increased range

Megid types:
Megid - Power+
Gimegid - Power+
Ramegid - Lower charge time
Namegid - Power+

Zonde types
Zonde - Lower charge time
Gizonde - Power+
Sazonde - Power+
Zondeel - Status ailment increase for the extra meter side buff.
Ilzonde - Lower charged times

Not touching any other techs and definitely not light.

musicmf
Aug 30, 2014, 08:51 PM
Support:
Multi (Shifta/Deband/Resta): More tics, quicker. Bigger range as well.
Fierce (Zondeel): Bigger range. More Shock if idiots detonate them I guess.
Concentrated (Anti): Faster Charge, Bigger Range.

Megiverse/Zanverse: Take your pick between faster charging, or more PP efficiency.
I like the charge time myself, but something like PP Megiverse is nice for self healing.

With Elysion:
Ice Fang (Nabarta/Ilbarta): More damage.
Efficient (Sazan): Less PP

With FI's Half Line Boost:
Ice Fang (Barta): More Damage, also Higher Freeze

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Otherwise, some others that I think might be nifty;

Wide (Rafoie/Ilzan): Bigger range. [Rafoie could be considered for Power as well though]
Multi (Rabarta/Nagrants): More Status Chance, and more hits. Which translates to even more status.
Multi (Razan): More Hits. TA Switches and more damage.
Concentrated (Ragrants/Gimegid): Faster charge times for some pretty hard hitting techs.
Umbral (Namegid): Damage, what else?

For Il Megid, I think it depends on if ~15% more damage can push you into "1 less cast to kill" range or not. Cause you could have Speed/PP Efficiency instead.

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For power crafts... with the upper end of Lv3 recipes;

Ramegid is around 5% or less
Foie/Nafoie/Razonde/Samegid are around 10%
Gibarta/Sabarta/Gizonde/Zan/Nazan/Nagrants/Gimegid/Ilmegid are around 15%
Safoie/Barta/Razan/Grants/Ragrants are around 20%
Gifoie/Rafoie/Rabarta/Megid are around +25%
Ilbarta/Sazonde are around +30%
Ilzonde is around +40%
Namegid is around +45%
Nabarta is around +70%

If it wasn't listed, either it doesn't have a Power Craft, the alternative is clearly superior, or I simply forgot it.

UnLucky
Aug 31, 2014, 02:08 AM
Foie types:
Foie - Power+/PP reduction are both good
Rafoie - Power+ to kill shit
Gifoie - Power+^
Shifta - Both are not bad at level 3 crafts, prefer the lower interval times for the extra and faster pulses.
Nafoie - Power+
Ilfoie - Charge time reduction. Just use PPJ, PB, or PP Convert to gain PP back if it's a problem.

Barta types:
Barta - Power+
Gibarta - Power+
Rabarta - Lower intervals of time between hits. This adds an extra rabarta hit for a bit more damage anyway.
Nabarta - Power+(get Elysion obviously)
IlBarta - Power+(should probably get an Elysion though)

Zan types:
Razan - Lower intervals of time between hits. This one specifically to knock out a switch at any distance fully charged because it hits 5 times instead of 3 now with this customization.
Sazan - Lower PP (should get an Elysion but you had better not use this on certain bosses and push them)
Ilzan - Increased range

Megid types:
Megid - Power+
Gimegid - Power+
Ramegid - Lower charge time
Namegid - Power+

Zonde types
Zonde - Lower charge time
Gizonde - Power+
Sazonde - Power+
Zondeel - Status ailment increase for the extra meter side buff.
Ilzonde - Lower charged times
Gifoie: I like the charge reduction since I only use it for the hitstun for safety from a rod. If you use it from a talis, that's less necessary and the power recipe makes it really strong.
Nafoie: Eh, the power craft isn't as significant now, but I guess the charge reduction was only good when crafting first came out. The demerit is pointless either way though, so it doesn't matter.
Ilfoie: I don't like either recipe since the power demerit is huge now. Charge reduction is probably better, though.

Gibarta: The PP- one has like no drawbacks, though. Power craft is less now, but it's still a good boost. It just lowers your freeze chance if you used it for that.
Rabarta's interval craft isn't as good now with the updated notation. It becomes 714-729 over 5 hits, but the power craft is 711-741 over 4. You get more freeze chance with the interval recipe, though.

Rest I agree with