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Squal_FFVIII
Nov 19, 2014, 03:46 AM
When I logged in the system message thing told me that Zieg now has a CO for me, but when I talk to him he has no CO.

Is there something that i'm missing here?

Shady3011
Nov 19, 2014, 03:57 AM
Try entering the campship. That worked for me.

Squal_FFVIII
Nov 19, 2014, 04:15 AM
Thank you that worked :D

rashoood
Nov 19, 2014, 04:43 AM
and what exactly is the CO? something to do with craft since i can only read that lol

NexusAZ
Nov 19, 2014, 04:45 AM
I just crafted a weapon and got it.

Z-0
Nov 19, 2014, 04:50 AM
Top to bottom of all COs:

1. Craft a melee weapon
2. Craft a ranged weapon
3. Craft a technique weapon
4. Craft a technique
5. Craft a limited install (actually create the item, don't just unlock the recipe)
6. Dismantle an item
7. Do anything crafting related (this is the CO you start with, dailies do not count)
8. Craft melee weapons 10 times.
9. Craft ranged weapons 10 times.
10. Craft technique weapons 10 times.
11. Craft a 3*+ melee weapon to level 2 or higher.
12. Craft a 3*+ ranged weapon to level 2 or higher.
13. Craft a 3*+ technique weapon to level 2 or higher.
14. Craft a 5*+ weapon or unit to level 3 or higher.
15. Craft a 6*+ melee weapon 5 times.
16. Craft a 6*+ ranged weapon 5 times.
17. Craft a 6*+ technique weapon 5 times.
18. Craft a 7*+ melee weapon 3 times.
19. Craft a 7*+ ranged weapon 3 times.
20. Craft a 7*+ technique weapon 3 times.
21. Craft a 9*+ weapon or unit to level 6.
22. These are the weapon exclusives.

Get a blade ticket (don't know actual name), 50 of the upper crafting material related to said weapon, and craft a weapon of that type to level 15.

NexusAZ
Nov 19, 2014, 04:56 AM
Top to bottom of all COs:

1. Craft a melee weapon
2. Craft a ranged weapon
3. Craft a technique weapon
4. Craft a technique
5. Craft a limited install (actually create the item, don't just unlock the recipe)
6. Dismantle an item
7. Do anything crafting related (this is the CO you start with, dailies do not count)
8. Craft melee weapons 10 times.
9. Craft ranged weapons 10 times.
10. Craft technique weapons 10 times.
11. Craft a 3*+ melee weapon to level 2 or higher.
12. Craft a 3*+ ranged weapon to level 2 or higher.
13. Craft a 3*+ technique weapon to level 2 or higher.
14. Craft a 5*+ weapon or unit to level 3 or higher.
15. Craft a 6*+ melee weapon 5 times.
16. Craft a 6*+ ranged weapon 5 times.
17. Craft a 6*+ technique weapon 5 times.
18. Craft a 7*+ melee weapon 3 times.
19. Craft a 7*+ ranged weapon 3 times.
20. Craft a 7*+ technique weapon 3 times.
21. Craft a 9*+ weapon or unit to level 6.
22. These are the weapon exclusives.

Get a blade ticket (don't know actual name), 50 of the upper crafting material related to said weapon, and craft a weapon of that type to level 15.

Awesome, thanks a lot.

Shinamori
Nov 19, 2014, 05:01 AM
So, I only see units in his shop...

KatsuraJun
Nov 19, 2014, 05:35 AM
So, I only see units in his shop...

weapons are from COs

aloola
Nov 19, 2014, 08:57 AM
does Daily Craft count ?

Shinamori
Nov 19, 2014, 09:17 AM
How do you get the units?

I got like 17x of 職人の印, but tit isn't the ones used the claim the units.

Z-0
Nov 19, 2014, 09:21 AM
Some of the later COs give you the tickets for them.

Atmius
Nov 19, 2014, 09:28 AM
You only get 6 tickets for units, and can't recycle them for others. I don't believe the co's are repeatable either, so be careful what you choose unit wise, even though they all actually suck.

Houten
Nov 19, 2014, 04:37 PM
Wondering if the weapon's elements are random.... Cause it doesn't show on the quest rewards

Lyrise
Nov 19, 2014, 07:24 PM
I just finished creating, affixing, grinding and extending the katana (Farentakezuchi). All of Zieg's weapons have an interesting latent: Gikoushou/Finesse Master.

This latent basically increases your damage output the more your weapon is extended. I maxed out my katana out at Ex lv. 8 and 50 element, the damage is pretty much on par (if not a little below) with my 32 light Orochi Agito, including bonus. (It definitely won't beat a maxed out Orochiagito... yet). Definitely not a bad choice for Bravers looking for a bit more damage all across the board.


Wondering if the weapon's elements are random.... Cause it doesn't show on the quest rewards

The element and the value is completely random. Zieg completely derped out on me and gave me one that was 16 ice.

Mattykins
Nov 19, 2014, 09:57 PM
Any word on the units' stats? :V They worth getting?

un1t27
Nov 19, 2014, 09:58 PM
Any word on the units' stats? :V They worth getting?

Doesn't seem like it.

Sizustar
Nov 19, 2014, 10:07 PM
Any word on the units' stats? :V They worth getting?
http://i.imgur.com/TLlOkPr.jpg

These are individual piece
S-Def 430 + 80 HP + 0PP - 229(320) 202(282) 202(282) 2% Wind/Fire Resit
R-Def 430 + 60 HP +2 PP - 202(282) 229(320) 202(282) 2% Wind/Light
T-Def 430 +0 HP +8 PP - 221(309) 221(309) 221(309) 2% Light/Dark
Dex 430 - +40 HP +4 PP - 221(309) 221(309) 221(309) 2% Light/Dark

Each also have 3% S/R/T-atk resist.
Set bonus - +45 HP, +50 S/R/T-atk, +5 PP, +30 Dex

EvilMag
Nov 19, 2014, 10:27 PM
The T-def one seems to be the only one that's actually good. Maybe better than SH units. Gunne units may be a bit better personally. Only difference is losing 10 attack which...whoopdeefuckingdo.

final_attack
Nov 19, 2014, 10:38 PM
Oh, those units made me want to affix one for my TeBo (S-Def requirement one). But I'm still not sure how much increase I got (Using Luther Set atm).

Also wondering about those weapon Latent ...... Wanted to see the actual percentage, but I guess I'll wait for now (I don't have the crafting skills >_> )

Edit : Maybe I should change my old S-Atk Luther set to these S-Def units too ....

ZER0 DX
Nov 19, 2014, 11:04 PM
Anyone know if there's a set bonus using one of Zieg's weapons with his units?

the_importer_
Nov 19, 2014, 11:32 PM
Is it possible to complete all 17 exclusive weapon orders? You only get 4 tickets, so is this like a permanent choice you have to make?

ZER0 DX
Nov 19, 2014, 11:39 PM
Is it possible to complete all 17 exclusive weapon orders? You only get 4 tickets, so is this like a permanent choice you have to make?

Sorta. You can trade in a weapon you got from him for another weapon pass. So in theory it is possible to do all his CO's but you can only ever have up to 4 of his weapons at a time.

LonelyGaruga
Nov 20, 2014, 12:00 AM
Anyone know if there's a set bonus using one of Zieg's weapons with his units?

Yeah, any of the weapons gains a set bonus with any of the unit combinations.

the_importer_
Nov 20, 2014, 12:23 AM
Sorta. You can trade in a weapon you got from him for another weapon pass. So in theory it is possible to do all his CO's but you can only ever have up to 4 of his weapons at a time.

Well at lease that counts for something. Thanks

Houten
Nov 20, 2014, 12:25 AM
Whats the last requirement for the weapon trade in quest?

- 1 "Blade Crafter Ticket"
- 50 Lv3 crafting material
-??? (seems like extending equipment) but I don't know what specifically

ZER0 DX
Nov 20, 2014, 12:30 AM
Whats the last requirement for the weapon trade in quest?

- 1 "Blade Crafter Ticket"
- 50 Lv3 crafting material
-??? (seems like extending equipment) but I don't know what specifically

Extend the same type of weapon to level 15.

So say, if you have the Dual Blades CO, you can get a cheap 3* dual blade and craft it up to level 15 and it'll unlock that requirement.

saphirkatze
Nov 20, 2014, 06:42 PM
Do I have to make all extensions myself? I suppose there's no chance the CO completes if someone else crafts the weapon to lv15?

Stealthcmc1974
Nov 20, 2014, 09:39 PM
Do I have to make all extensions myself? I suppose there's no chance the CO completes if someone else crafts the weapon to lv15?

Pretty certain you have to do it yourself. Just do it with a cheap 3* or something. Hope you've got plenty of Liliparium and meseta.

somedude1435
Nov 20, 2014, 11:06 PM
for the units are the sets interchangeable? like can i do 2 units from t.def req and 1 form s def and still get the set bonus?

GreenArcher
Nov 21, 2014, 12:01 AM
Word to the wise. Start doing zieg's orders immediately, his weekly repeatables only yield 11 lambda grinders per week. Start stocking up or you'll be paying for client order resets tickets or 50 excubes/grinder.

(fun facts: 3 lambda grinders/196k per grind attempt. Use grind skip 7, use 20%/30%/100% grind boosters)

LonelyGaruga
Nov 21, 2014, 12:11 AM
for the units are the sets interchangeable? like can i do 2 units from t.def req and 1 form s def and still get the set bonus?

Yes, you can mix and match in any way between the four sets and still get the set bonus.

Maninbluejumpsuit
Nov 21, 2014, 12:43 AM
Well no one is going to use zeig's crafted weapons for any meaningful length of time, so putting the set effect doubling with a weapon aside for a moment, the only 'advantage' any of these unit combos provide over gunne units is 3pp, and some tech resist using triple T-def units. You lose 105HP, 10 to each attack, 50 dex, -3% striking/ranged resist, 114 S def, and 39 T-def (though the 9% tech resist should more than make up for this) for that 3pp though

Could go up to 9pp with that new pure pp unit craft, and throw off everything i just said (damnit T.T).

Zeig unit worth depends on the weapon extension level caps, but knowing sega, they seem to be the type to keep extension levels a safe way away from the best the game has to offer. Heaven forbid the best stuff in game is rewarded to those who show effort after all.

Stealthcmc1974
Nov 21, 2014, 08:19 AM
I'm probably one of the few that actually stand to gain something from Zieg's weapons considering their latent. I have insanely high DEX and I maxed out my Craft Mastery Skill. They'll end up being more effective for me than Bio weapons (not by much, but a decent amount).

Its just getting them to max extension is gonna take forever ;_;

Achelousaurus
Nov 21, 2014, 08:41 AM
Does Zieg's stuff have the crafted status by default?
I.e., does it benefit from the bouncer skill? Is it account bound instantly?

Ordy
Nov 21, 2014, 08:43 AM
FYI Zieg weapons have 2 latents.

All of them have the crafted weapon boost latent and an alternative one.
AR: 11% WHA
Rod: Some kind of Tech vamp
DB: 5% JA
Boots: 5% tech JA
GS: PB gauge
Bow: 15% damage during Rapid Shot
TMG: 9% PK
Katana: 15% JA in KC
Wand: 5% JA
...

other weapons have crappy just reversal HP, PP regen latents and shits like that

Rien
Nov 21, 2014, 09:38 AM
no lol the rod does not have tech vamp

it's rod melee vamp

Ordy
Nov 21, 2014, 09:43 AM
no lol the rod does not have tech vamp

it's rod melee vamp

that's .. terrible

genesispso2
Nov 21, 2014, 01:41 PM
sorry if this sounds like a dumb question but a lil confused do u have to do all that is mentioned in the quote & then ziegs COs r unlocked or am i missing something???
Top to bottom of all COs:

1. Craft a melee weapon
2. Craft a ranged weapon
3. Craft a technique weapon
4. Craft a technique
5. Craft a limited install (actually create the item, don't just unlock the recipe)
6. Dismantle an item
7. Do anything crafting related (this is the CO you start with, dailies do not count)
8. Craft melee weapons 10 times.
9. Craft ranged weapons 10 times.
10. Craft technique weapons 10 times.
11. Craft a 3*+ melee weapon to level 2 or higher.
12. Craft a 3*+ ranged weapon to level 2 or higher.
13. Craft a 3*+ technique weapon to level 2 or higher.
14. Craft a 5*+ weapon or unit to level 3 or higher.
15. Craft a 6*+ melee weapon 5 times.
16. Craft a 6*+ ranged weapon 5 times.
17. Craft a 6*+ technique weapon 5 times.
18. Craft a 7*+ melee weapon 3 times.
19. Craft a 7*+ ranged weapon 3 times.
20. Craft a 7*+ technique weapon 3 times.
21. Craft a 9*+ weapon or unit to level 6.
22. These are the weapon exclusives.

Get a blade ticket (don't know actual name), 50 of the upper crafting material related to said weapon, and craft a weapon of that type to level 15.

Stealthcmc1974
Nov 21, 2014, 01:42 PM
sorry if this sounds like a dumb question but a lil confused do u have to do all that is mentioned in the quote & then ziegs COs r unlocked or am i missing something???

No, those ARE his COs. You do them as they pop up. Once you get 1-21 done, the 11* specific weapon COs are unlocked.

genesispso2
Nov 21, 2014, 01:45 PM
sorry still a lil confused so my question now is how do u get his COs to come up. when i go 2 him & click Cos he says somethin in japanese then it just comes out of it??


No, those ARE his COs. You do them as they pop up. Once you get 1-21 done, the 11* specific weapon COs are unlocked.

Lego
Nov 21, 2014, 01:47 PM
Change your matterboard to Episode3.

genesispso2
Nov 21, 2014, 01:49 PM
oh that explains it i have it on an old 1 because its the only incomplete mb i have. THANKS

EDIT: i cnt change my matterboard back to an episode 3 one because ive completed them :(

Lego
Nov 21, 2014, 03:17 PM
Some message should popup when opening episode3 matterboard. Select yes (left) option

starwind75043
Nov 21, 2014, 03:38 PM
Man thing you need to complete these quest are Mesta and time...I honesty would tell any one you may want to go for the units if your set is bad as grinding those was not terrible tough (Dark Falz dudu couldn't stop me)

genesispso2
Nov 21, 2014, 03:39 PM
i dnt no wot i did different but it wasnt doing that b4 but thanks i gothe cos now


Some message should popup when opening episode3 matterboard. Select yes (left) option

Dugs
Nov 21, 2014, 09:01 PM
One major thing Zieg's units have over the Saiki set is that they are vastly easier to get. With Gunne Triggers gone, it's not exactly easy to get those ones.

Achelousaurus
Nov 22, 2014, 06:14 AM
How do you complete the 1st tier COs besides craft s/r/t weapon x1 and desynth an item?
The translation is wrong or they are bugged.

I installed a timed ability like it says but nothing happened.
Someone posted a list with the cos and so I crated a 7* weapon 3times to lvl 3 and nothing happened.
And now again with a 3* weapon and still nothing happens.

Stealthcmc1974
Nov 22, 2014, 08:18 AM
One major thing Zieg's units have over the Saiki set is that they are vastly easier to get. With Gunne Triggers gone, it's not exactly easy to get those ones.

You are right about that. A decent set to have if you don't have much else.


How do you complete the 1st tier COs besides craft s/r/t weapon x1 and desynth an item?
The translation is wrong or they are bugged.

I installed a timed ability like it says but nothing happened.
Someone posted a list with the cos and so I crated a 7* weapon 3times to lvl 3 and nothing happened.
And now again with a 3* weapon and still nothing happens.

You have the actual timed ability in your inventory?

and the first tier is to extend each weapon type ten times. You can manipulate this just by repeating extension lvl 1 to save meseta.

TehCubey
Nov 22, 2014, 09:58 AM
The COs are about creating a timed ability or a technic customization. You don't actually have to install/use them, just make them.

Lego
Nov 22, 2014, 11:35 AM
The COs are about creating a timed ability or a technic customization. You don't actually have to install/use them, just make them.

You actually have to install on one unit.

Z-0
Nov 22, 2014, 11:41 AM
No you don't, I never did. You just have to make the item which installs the limited ability. (so, make the item that goes in the mate section of your inventory)

Lego
Nov 22, 2014, 12:19 PM
Iirc there is an order where it says to use the ability.

Edit: cant find it, was wrong :x

TehCubey
Nov 22, 2014, 12:23 PM
You remember incorrectly I'm afraid. Still if you create the ability, might as well use it - unless all your units already have timed abilities, but then you can always use it on a trash unit instead if you're so concerned.

The point is, you have to actually create the ability to clear the CO. Using one that was made earlier won't do it.

the_importer_
Nov 22, 2014, 12:24 PM
nevermind

Achelousaurus
Nov 22, 2014, 12:29 PM
Then, how come I didn't finish the co?

Also, how do you unlock the cos?
I made a new character and set MB to ep 3, got through all those cutscenes you get in the shop area and Zieg won't give him any COs.

Rien
Nov 22, 2014, 03:05 PM
Then, how come I didn't finish the co?

Also, how do you unlock the cos?
I made a new character and set MB to ep 3, got through all those cutscenes you get in the shop area and Zieg won't give him any COs.

It's 2-parts.

The first is you locking in the data you want, then the second part is using that data to create the item which goes into your inventory. Upon completion of part 2 the CO completes.

Also I think you have to hit MB2 of Ep3.

saphirkatze
Nov 22, 2014, 03:12 PM
You have to clear the first difficulty unlock from Koffie.



Also I think you have to hit MB2 of Ep3.
_
Nah, I don't even have MB2|Ep3 unlocked and just got the Rod.

starwind75043
Nov 22, 2014, 06:56 PM
since Sega is hell bent on us crafting. I wonder if we will see this potential as choice on other weapons weapons in the future outside of zeigs?

Maninbluejumpsuit
Nov 22, 2014, 07:09 PM
Dont understand why daily crafts dont count to progress. Damnit sega...

Achelousaurus
Nov 23, 2014, 05:27 AM
Cause that would be convenient.
Convenience in PSO2? Not on Sega's watch.

Anyway, I heard you can get Lambda Grinders from a weekly Zieg CO, is this true?
And if, what other COs do I have to complete to unlock it and how do I complete the Lambda Grinder CO itself?

genesispso2
Nov 23, 2014, 07:47 AM
what is the lambda grinder CO? i havent got it??

ziegs weekly cos r for 11* weapons does that mean if u repeat it u get an additional 11*????


Cause that would be convenient.
Convenience in PSO2? Not on Sega's watch.

Anyway, I heard you can get Lambda Grinders from a weekly Zieg CO, is this true?
And if, what other COs do I have to complete to unlock it and how do I complete the Lambda Grinder CO itself?

Houten
Nov 25, 2014, 02:30 AM
You do a trade in with zig in the other option. Its not a CO like the weapon, more like what you do at the recycling shop. The prereq is the standard crafter ticket ( the CO to get those tickets are repeatable weekly)

Achelousaurus
Nov 26, 2014, 12:17 PM
Thanks.
But about that co for timed ability, it makes no sense.
I got the CO from Zieg, then created the timed ability (cave I) and then installed it into a unit.
But nothing happened and I hadn't even touched timed abilities before accepting the CO.