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Manta Oyamada
Oct 19, 2015, 11:50 AM
http://i3.minus.com/jsavXSKDAzLUS_e.jpg
http://pso2.jp/players/news/?id=7154


The Live Broadcast will be split up into Main Channel and Sub Channel :-P


Date: October 31, 2015


Time: 14:00 (10/31) ~ 5:00 (11/01) ---- Converted http://goo.gl/cuvlLv


Main Channel

Official Link Nico Nico: http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv238603802
Fan Link YouTube: https://gaming.youtube.com/c/Fireuniverse/live
Fan Link Twitch: http://www.twitch.tv/fireswordmrm
Fan Link Nico Nico 1: http://nico.ms/lv239784378
Fan Link Nico Nico 2: Coming Soon
Fan Link Nico Nico 3: Coming Soon


Sub Channel

Official Link Nico Nico: http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv238711206


Topics (Main Channel)

Informations about the updates of november and december (Episode 3)
New information about the Episode 4
Section of questions and answers with developers
A chat with development team of PSO, including Akikazu Mizuno (Character designer), Hideaki Kobayashi (Composition/arrangement), Akio Setsumasa (Server Program Director) and Phantasy Portable 2 Infinity Captain T (Takaharu Terada)
Details about the Phantasy Star Festa 2016 including new merchandise and item bonuses
ARKS GP Preliminaries
Live gameplay Mining Base: Demise (TD4)
Setlist for the Sympathy 2015 concert
Latest informations about PSO2 The Animation including new characters and perhaps even its airing date


About Sub Channel

A supplementary (Parallel) channel with a fun programming for night, together with celebrities streamers.

FireswordRus
Oct 19, 2015, 11:52 AM
fan links
twitch http://www.twitch.tv/fireswordmrm
youtube https://gaming.youtube.com/c/Fireuniverse/live

Maenara
Oct 19, 2015, 12:05 PM
Jesus christ, why is it so long.

Kondibon
Oct 19, 2015, 12:10 PM
I hope it's because they're going to be talking about all the amazing changes coming with episode 4.

The real reason though, is probably because it's gonna be a bunch of other stuff. 15 hours is over half a day though, what could they possibly have for that long?

Maenara
Oct 19, 2015, 12:13 PM
ARKS GP I guess?

ZerotakerZX
Oct 19, 2015, 12:26 PM
ARKS GP I guess?

Sake and geishas

FireswordRus
Oct 19, 2015, 12:28 PM
ARKS GP I guess?

yes, it is
ep3, TD4, ep4, large update for es, ARKS GP (TD4) gameplay or GP and TD4,
PSO2-ON STAGE full length!!!!
anime information
Comic duet

http://pso2.jp/players/news/?id=7154

Poyonche
Oct 19, 2015, 12:34 PM
I want my Summoner teaser.

Ryziou
Oct 19, 2015, 12:36 PM
Ooh, PSO2es.

Saffran
Oct 19, 2015, 12:39 PM
It's because PSO will be 15 years old, so they want 15 hours of streaming.
They have to talk about the 2 big updates of november and december, episode 4, the PS4, the anime, the Sympathy concert, all the nicovideo cast (you may not know this but they have 5 teams of web celebrities streaming the game, every office day), they will have a big corner about development, questions to the team, about PSO2es, there will be sub-channels commenting on the main channel, some let's play with all the new content I suppose, etc etc...

oratank
Oct 19, 2015, 12:40 PM
till 5am are they out of mind?

Angry_Ryudo
Oct 19, 2015, 01:03 PM
till 5am are they out of mind?

Are they gonna have drinks, tapas, fiesta and botellon a la española LIVE?

Superia
Oct 19, 2015, 01:18 PM
Jesus christ, why is it so long.

I guess the immaturity is mine today.

arkeido
Oct 19, 2015, 01:19 PM
inb4 soomewhat like this
first 1 hour of some collab teaser >12hours on stage and arks gp and some other stuff > 1 hours showing td4 > 30 minutes of QA > more content update and ep4 teaser

landman
Oct 19, 2015, 01:30 PM
Remember how awesome the TGS streaming was because they released a bunch of trailers in just an hour?? I'll provably NOT see this live... specially if most content will be reduced in a bunch of trailers.

Xaelouse
Oct 19, 2015, 01:37 PM
13 hours of fluff, 2 hours of actual important stuff

EvilMag
Oct 19, 2015, 02:07 PM
14 hours of those girls talking about your personal shit/what they did on PSO2. 1 hour for what we care for.

Poyonche
Oct 19, 2015, 02:34 PM
1h of TD4 Gameplay because of Guard Stance Gunner and Break Stance Force.
One more hour because they failed.

Maninbluejumpsuit
Oct 19, 2015, 02:57 PM
14 hours of those girls talking about your personal shit/what they did on PSO2.

Is that what they often talk about between trailers?

Maenara
Oct 19, 2015, 03:08 PM
13 hours of fluff, 2 hours of actual important stuff

6 hour long trailer. Consists of a single frame with the letters 'SU' and '2016'.

Ce'Nedra
Oct 19, 2015, 03:56 PM
1 Minute of actual content. 14h59m of derp and failing the EQs

ArcaneTechs
Oct 19, 2015, 06:25 PM
grand prix gonna take up most of the time, might as well not even tune in for that part

you waited 14hrs & 58mins for the Ep4 Teaser! here you go!

PokeminMaster
Oct 19, 2015, 06:32 PM
For once, I suppose I will just keep track of the post on bumped while I do other things throughout the day haha

Maenara
Oct 19, 2015, 09:51 PM
grand prix gonna take up most of the time, might as well not even tune in for that part

you waited 14hrs & 58mins for the Ep4 Teaser! here you go!

Basically.

I would like them to confirm Summoner, but I'm expecting a vague-as-shit trailer that doesn't actually confirm one way or the other whether we're getting pets or Summoner.

wefwq
Oct 20, 2015, 02:24 AM
They barely has enough stuff to keep up the 6 hours stream why would they make it 15 hours long this time?
I can already imagine 2 hours worth of SEGA game advertisement playing in loop during the break

otakun
Oct 20, 2015, 04:20 AM
Basically.

I would like them to confirm Summoner, but I'm expecting a vague-as-shit trailer that doesn't actually confirm one way or the other whether we're getting pets or Summoner.

I just rewatched the episode 3 trailer since I joined 3 months after ep3s release and they showed the bouncer quite a bit and episode 2 trailer showed off the deuman and braver quite a bit as well so I don't think your expectations are correct.

Lyrise
Oct 20, 2015, 08:47 AM
A portion of this stream will be showing PSO2 onstage (which I'd recommend checking out if you haven't seen it, it's pretty entertaining; may we never have to find the real Star Quasar the same way it was portrayed here).

At the same time, the subchannel will be dishing out actor commentary while On Stage is being broadcast.

Maenara
Oct 20, 2015, 07:06 PM
I just rewatched the episode 3 trailer since I joined 3 months after ep3s release and they showed the bouncer quite a bit and episode 2 trailer showed off the deuman and braver quite a bit as well so I don't think your expectations are correct.

There's a huge difference between the opening cinematic and the episode trailer. Episode 3's cinematic trailer wasn't released until some months into episode 3.

LonelyGaruga
Oct 20, 2015, 07:15 PM
These (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7vIuE9tYJM) trailers. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g4hI-QYWsw)

Shadowth117
Oct 20, 2015, 08:26 PM
These (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7vIuE9tYJM) trailers. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g4hI-QYWsw)

Recap trailers can be cool, but this game really does get way too many of those.

PokeminMaster
Oct 20, 2015, 09:02 PM
There's a huge difference between the opening cinematic and the episode trailer. Episode 3's cinematic trailer wasn't released until some months into episode 3.
Everything otakun says still applies, to the trailers that release before each episode...

Maenara
Oct 20, 2015, 09:11 PM
These (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7vIuE9tYJM) trailers. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g4hI-QYWsw)

I forgot about those. Yeah, maybe.

Manta Oyamada
Oct 30, 2015, 08:57 AM
coming

Poyonche
Oct 30, 2015, 09:31 AM
I guess i'll Watch the first hour (because it will be here we will see PSO2 updates trailers). :wacko:

Ezodagrom
Oct 30, 2015, 10:25 AM
Livestream schedule:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSipfSSUEAALyOE.jpg

arkeido
Oct 30, 2015, 10:42 AM
Livestream schedule:

*pic*

If you guys looking for update trailer only...

14-15 JST opening + update info part 1 (& new ARKS GP)

21:** ~ 23 JST update info part 2

00 ~ 01 JST TD4

3~4 JST EP4 preview

EvilMag
Oct 30, 2015, 10:44 AM
I'm curious what they are planning with "PSU Chronicles"?

Azure Falcon
Oct 30, 2015, 11:40 AM
I'm curious what they are planning with "PSU Chronicles"?
This caught my eye as well. If I have to hazard a guess it'd be a recap of the storyline for the PSU series - Universe, Shadow of the Arkguard, Portable, Ambition of the Illuminus Ep 2 and 3, Portable 2 and Portable 2 Infinity. Sega did originally release a "PSU Chronicle" UMD packed in with the "The Best" re-release of Phantasy Star Portable 1 which summarised the plot of Universe and AotI in video form (this was back when PSP2 had just released).

It makes a lot of sense actually, a lot of people might not remember but PSU did come out in 2006 so next year will be the 10 year anniversary of it. I was thinking about that recently since I was hoping they'd start adding some more PSU content to the game (Vivienne Repca parts please) for the anniversary, much like they have for PSO this year.

Halikus
Oct 30, 2015, 11:45 AM
All I can hope is that someone records then translates the onstage stuff as that would be rather cool

ArcaneTechs
Oct 30, 2015, 12:12 PM
Livestream schedule:

[SPOILER-BOX]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSipfSSUEAALyOE.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]
anyone mind converting the update parts+Ep4 preview into EST times? cant quite get the conversion thing to work for me

Poyonche
Oct 30, 2015, 12:16 PM
http://i.imgur.com/oHClV0Z.png

Uuh I guess it should be that.

I'm not 100% sure tho.
You can look at this link too : http://www.worldtimebuddy.com/japan-tokyo-to-est

Sora3100
Oct 30, 2015, 12:27 PM
or you can just literally google "x time jst"
like for example: 10:00 AM JST
it will give you what time it is in your region

wefwq
Oct 30, 2015, 10:58 PM
s o o n
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Lostbob117
Oct 31, 2015, 12:14 AM
http://i.imgur.com/ppjycPq.png

Selphea
Oct 31, 2015, 12:19 AM
Found a Thai link https://gaming.youtube.com/watch?v=5MV5bjVr-8M

ArcaneTechs
Oct 31, 2015, 12:21 AM
Found a Thai link https://gaming.youtube.com/watch?v=5MV5bjVr-8M
ty seeing as Fireswords twitch/stream isnt working for some reason

edit: suddenly theyre up again or something

Manta Oyamada
Oct 31, 2015, 12:30 AM
Progeny of the Apocalypse - 150% Rare Drop & EXP Boost

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Progeny+of+the+Apocalypse+-+150%25+Rare+Drop+%26+EXP+Boost&iso=20151101T22&p1=248&am=30

ArcaneTechs
Oct 31, 2015, 12:36 AM
Progeny of the Apocalypse - 150% Rare Drop & EXP Boost

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Progeny+of+the+Apocalypse+-+150%25+Rare+Drop+%26+EXP+Boost&iso=20151101T22&p1=248&am=30
tyvm

5char

EvilMag
Oct 31, 2015, 12:44 AM
New TA looks dope.

Infinity Series
Oct 31, 2015, 12:46 AM
genesis weapon camo!

Manta Oyamada
Oct 31, 2015, 12:53 AM
Update Videos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WhWAiipiqI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydo773X_yT0

landman
Oct 31, 2015, 01:03 AM
I want that Opa Opa MAG!

LonelyGaruga
Oct 31, 2015, 01:08 AM
Ah, Dark Falz Apprentice is on the logo for the newest trailer. They sure are cycling PD out quickly.

final_attack
Oct 31, 2015, 01:30 AM
RIP Meseta for Tmg camo (Hidan no Aria collab) (′ ;ω ; ‵)

Lyrise
Oct 31, 2015, 01:52 AM
The substream is actually kinda fun to listen to. Not only do they talk about the in game stats and various fun facts (for instance, the most number of hours that a single has logged in is 26.3k, while only 3 players in the entire game have created 12 characters and taken every class to 75 on all 12).

Just a moment ago, they're talking about the absurdity of the RMT market, and the recent gaffe in the PSO2 EULA where it states that you will not use PSO2 to create biological or nuclear weaponry.

edit: More useless facts: across all ships a total of 1.8 million goals have been scored. 1 person has scored 1826 of those goals. 2nd and 3rd place are at 1321 and 1318 respectively. Also, across all ships, Suganuma's name has been mentioned in chat in some way 154k times. Kimura at 105k. Sakai at 220k.

Goukezitsu
Oct 31, 2015, 02:01 AM
ARKS GP C mode Playthrough:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPBYUqKAxi0

landman
Oct 31, 2015, 02:26 AM
The substream is actually kinda fun to listen to. Not only do they talk about the in game stats and various fun facts (for instance, the most number of hours that a single has logged in is 26.3k, while only 3 players in the entire game have created 12 characters and taken every class to 75 on all 12).

Just a moment ago, they're talking about the absurdity of the RMT market, and the recent gaffe in the PSO2 EULA where it states that you will not use PSO2 to create biological or nuclear weaponry.

edit: More useless facts: across all ships a total of 1.8 million goals have been scored. 1 person has scored 1826 of those goals. 2nd and 3rd place are at 1321 and 1318 respectively.

They have 15 hours of streaming AND they are doing two different streams at the same time lol

TheszNuts
Oct 31, 2015, 02:30 AM
The substream is actually kinda fun to listen to. Not only do they talk about the in game stats and various fun facts (for instance, the most number of hours that a single has logged in is 26.3k, while only 3 players in the entire game have created 12 characters and taken every class to 75 on all 12).

Just a moment ago, they're talking about the absurdity of the RMT market, and the recent gaffe in the PSO2 EULA where it states that you will not use PSO2 to create biological or nuclear weaponry.

edit: More useless facts: across all ships a total of 1.8 million goals have been scored. 1 person has scored 1826 of those goals. 2nd and 3rd place are at 1321 and 1318 respectively. Also, across all ships, Suganuma's name has been mentioned in chat in some way 154k times. Kimura at 105k. Sakai at 220k.

Is there a list of these facts yet?

Lyrise
Oct 31, 2015, 02:45 AM
They'll probably release more facts in later talks. I can compile them all after the stream's over (since I can view a timeshift of the stream, as well as rip it.)

Shinamori
Oct 31, 2015, 02:48 AM
BTW:

8am EST: Update Info Part 2
2pm EST: Update Info Part 3 (Ep4 stuff)

doomdragon83
Oct 31, 2015, 03:27 AM
Wow, saw that old PSO commercial, a little ironic that they were advertising connecting with anyone across the world yet they aren't doing that now.

Then again, things change a lot in 15 years.

landman
Oct 31, 2015, 03:31 AM
It was true at the time, pso for DC and GC had shared servers around the world.

TheszNuts
Oct 31, 2015, 03:39 AM
We also abused the hell out of that fact, since the US, UK, and JP ships all went on maintenance at different times, as long as you moved to one of the other two ships before maintenence started you could continue until you logged out. (Or FSOD.)

TaigaUC
Oct 31, 2015, 03:41 AM
Yeah, Beats time made it easier to know what time stuff would happen in PSO2.
There was also the translation system that allowed communication in any language, although it was apparently only for simple purposes.

Impressively ambitious.

Nitro Vordex
Oct 31, 2015, 03:54 AM
PSU used to be even uglier. That's a surprise. :lol:

landman
Oct 31, 2015, 03:54 AM
There was also the translation system that allowed communication in any language, although it was apparently only for simple purposes.
And people abused it to force FSODs on players entering the lobby, that's why it was never used again.

ZER0 DX
Oct 31, 2015, 03:56 AM
PSU used to be even uglier. That's a surprise. :lol:

I'm actually a bit sad we didn't get to see some of those concepts they initially wanted to roll with get realized.

Maninbluejumpsuit
Oct 31, 2015, 03:57 AM
I'm not the only one that thinks the genesis weapon camos really didn't need to happen, and are quite immersion-breaking (which this game really could use less of when possible)? It's not even like it's a collab obligation or something.

Nitro Vordex
Oct 31, 2015, 04:01 AM
This game dropped immersion when it had stupid looking spines and heels.

And more of the high school anime that no one asked for.

TaigaUC
Oct 31, 2015, 04:07 AM
Yeah, PSO was a good example of "this is why we can't have nice things".

Maninbluejumpsuit
Oct 31, 2015, 04:34 AM
This game dropped immersion when it had stupid looking spines and heels.

And more of the high school anime that no one asked for.

Spines, yeah...

Heels are nice... when done right eg: china dress, and magia savior. BS like stoa collet shrinking feet are atrocious, yes.

It got to the point where i felt so much of nothing when i saw the costumes. Gun camos are pretty alright though... except when they keep trying to turn (machine)pistols into gunslash camos.

Raujinn
Oct 31, 2015, 06:39 AM
Would be interested in an upload about the PSU talk if anyone has a link handy.

KLMS1
Oct 31, 2015, 06:47 AM
Wacky anatomy, heels, and ridiculous armor that looks neither efficient or comfortable breaks all immersion for me as well,
...dafaq you guys even doing around cRPGs, nevermind now techno-fantasy MMO ones.

Two of the three have been a hallowed (and duly ruthlessly mocked) tradition since long before computer gaming became a thing, just look up any old fantasy cover art.

Cyber Meteor
Oct 31, 2015, 06:52 AM
I noticed this in the 2nd trailer
[SPOILER-BOX]http://i1318.photobucket.com/albums/t650/CyberMeteor/Rare%20Findings/EX%20quest%20titles_zpsozxgzuqj.jpg~original[/SPOILER-BOX]

And this is our current XQ/Stage order titles number
[SPOILER-BOX]http://i1318.photobucket.com/albums/t650/CyberMeteor/Rare%20Findings/pso2.exe_2015-10-31-11-46-29-623_zpsuzk1fccq.png~original[/SPOILER-BOX]

I guess it confirms we'll get a 4th XQ quest :wacko:

Raujinn
Oct 31, 2015, 06:55 AM
Well it's that or additional floors isn't it? It could be both! I mean I do see

e: Thanks for the link

KLMS1
Oct 31, 2015, 06:56 AM
I'm not the only one that thinks the genesis weapon camos really didn't need to happen, and are quite immersion-breaking (which this game really could use less of when possible)? It's not even like it's a collab obligation or something.

IDK, aren't the Geneses supposed to be a kind of baseline from which the lesser stuff us peons is to varying degrees derived? In any case they actually make kind of sense as an in-universe PR thing, as the whole Ep 2 finale thing presumably left the Council... less than automatically trustworthy in the eyes of the ARKS rank and file. And their position oughta have been further eroded by the reorgnaisation of the outfit - releasing cosmetic imitations of their distinctive and well-known weapons could be argued to be an effort to win back some popularity.

Cyber Meteor
Oct 31, 2015, 06:59 AM
Well it's that or additional floors isn't it? It could be both!

The problem is the new stage order title number wouldn't fit with 3 XQ quests (adding 1 title=+3, 2=+6) while having the 5 titles for 1 new XQ quest does

Kondibon
Oct 31, 2015, 07:01 AM
I'm not the only one that thinks the genesis weapon camos really didn't need to happen, and are quite immersion-breaking (which this game really could use less of when possible)? It's not even like it's a collab obligation or something.Honestly, I think they're some of the least immersion breaking camos in the game considering it's pretty easy to justify them as just being replicas.

Raujinn
Oct 31, 2015, 07:03 AM
The problem is the new stage order title number wouldn't fit with 3 XQ quests (adding 1 title=+3, 2=+6) while having the 5 titles for 1 new XQ quest does

Yeah I agree, I didnt know how the XQ titles worked. I will say it's somewhat surprising for them to do it like this though instead of adding additional floors, given that other updated quests were raised to XH standards I'd have figured that's what they'd be doing to XQs too you know?

oratank
Oct 31, 2015, 07:11 AM
boost pd 22.00 jst right?

Arada
Oct 31, 2015, 07:12 AM
boost pd 22.00 jst right?

Yes, in 24 hours...

KLMS1
Oct 31, 2015, 07:13 AM
boost pd 22.00 jst right?

Linky (http://www.bumped.org/psublog/pso2-live-broadcast-36-recap/).

Cyber Meteor
Oct 31, 2015, 07:31 AM
I will say it's somewhat surprising for them to do it like this though instead of adding additional floors, given that other updated quests were raised to XH standards I'd have figured that's what they'd be doing to XQs too you know?

They're doing both, adding a new XQ and new floors, stage orders titles aren't related to stage number but the number of stage order you complete, don't forget the 1st category which is this one who is related to the stage you reached

landman
Oct 31, 2015, 07:33 AM
Also can't help but notice the lack of coverage for the classics, as if PSO was square one.
PSO developer team has almost nothing to do with the classics, Yuji Naka was just a genius programmer that worked on many games before becoming a big fish. The game didn't start as a Phantasy Star project either, and all references to the classics were finally discarded, only concepts remain.

Goukezitsu
Oct 31, 2015, 08:33 AM
Sympathy Concert Set Overview:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evDXn3VQ_A0

Dude... the songs that are going to be on there are amazing. They have like every cool song I could think of on this list. I am super stoaked and super sad I won't be able to go see it live lol.

Maenara
Oct 31, 2015, 08:39 AM
They should delete Forsaken Aquatics XQ and add a new one that's Vopar plus Harkotan. There's only so much they can do with one planet worth of enemies plus Darkers, and they literally use the same stage multiple times.

RadiantLegend
Oct 31, 2015, 08:57 AM
Can't wait for the real RAmar outfit. Can't stand the Hans kubara version.

cheapgunner
Oct 31, 2015, 09:02 AM
Nice, areas weps for stones! /o/

Kondibon
Oct 31, 2015, 09:02 AM
Sooo... what? Eucreta has a loli minion now?

alsolol@tradeins for Ares weapons.

Maenara
Oct 31, 2015, 09:02 AM
New story chapter, Viel Hunar appears in Christmas EQ, Ares weapons become trade-ins(kek).

Selphea
Oct 31, 2015, 09:02 AM
Ares weapons from stone exchange o_O

Raujinn
Oct 31, 2015, 09:02 AM
ARES STONES D: (probably as rare as the weapons)

TaigaUC
Oct 31, 2015, 09:04 AM
GAL GRYPHON!

It says Dio (Di-o) Hunar.

Ezodagrom
Oct 31, 2015, 09:05 AM
Viel Hunar appears in Christmas EQ
Based on the actor_name.text file, it should be Deo Hunar (DpAbyssHuman), and not Viel Hunar (DpAbyssHumanUniq).

Kondibon
Oct 31, 2015, 09:06 AM
Seriously, who is this loliprentice?

ARES STONES D: (probably as rare as the weapons)Based on the video it seems like Deo Hunar drops several of them at a time, so I can already tell this is going to be another EQ people try to farm for a specific spawn instead of doing it the way Sega intended. They really need to design these EQs better. :/

Selphea
Oct 31, 2015, 09:06 AM
It's only Dio if it stops time and throws knives at you.

TaigaUC
Oct 31, 2015, 09:08 AM
Those Disgaea 5 outfits would look nice on my characters.
Must get Prinny mag.

Raujinn
Oct 31, 2015, 09:12 AM
Kamehameha fight with Apprentice lol

Kondibon
Oct 31, 2015, 09:13 AM
I love Harada's character designs... Still not bothering with Colab stuff. :<

EDIT: Oh and those new 13*s actually look cool.

Poyonche
Oct 31, 2015, 09:17 AM
Someone pls reupload TD4 trailer. D:

Maenara
Oct 31, 2015, 09:18 AM
The new 13*s look neat.

landman
Oct 31, 2015, 09:21 AM
Senpai is going to kiss me lobby action was priceless.

Nyansan
Oct 31, 2015, 09:22 AM
Seems like you need to 'hijack' corrupted AIS from td4.
Also, the orbit weapon series look so rad.
(A moment of silence for people who farmed Ares)

Kondibon
Oct 31, 2015, 09:27 AM
(A moment of silence for people who farmed Ares)If they didn't know what they were getting into from the start then I dunno if I can feel bad for them.

final_attack
Oct 31, 2015, 09:28 AM
The Orbit series ... does the info from where the drop is available?
Is it from new TD? o-o

Lyrise
Oct 31, 2015, 09:31 AM
Seriously, who is this loliprentice?


She's the original Apprentice, Aurora. Or rather, she's the original host of Apprentice, given how fixated the Apprentice personality was on youth and beauty.

Goukezitsu
Oct 31, 2015, 09:33 AM
Christmas Update:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZUhZYacC6E

TD4 Update:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L796xzrr_fU

Kondibon
Oct 31, 2015, 09:34 AM
She's the original Apprentice, Aurora. Or rather, she's the original host of Apprentice, given how fixated the Apprentice personality was on youth and beauty.I thought so... It seems weird that she could just leave a host. Oh well. More lore. *shrug*

Raujinn
Oct 31, 2015, 09:39 AM
Thought I toyed with, probably completely bullshit but hey..

Given Apprentice seemed to be a falz much more adept at summoning than the other Falzes I'm tickled by the idea that the previous Apprentice hosts would somehow.. carry this ability over and this would form the basis of a new class they develop. It's a stretch given Summoner might not even be a new class, I appreciate (there might be some stuff I'm forgetting about Eucretia), but to me a fun thought.

FantasyHeaven
Oct 31, 2015, 09:40 AM
Seems like you need to 'hijack' corrupted AIS from td4.
Also, the orbit weapon series look so rad.
(A moment of silence for people who farmed Ares)
No sensible person has been farming specifically for ares ever since easier to get options came out
That said I'll be happy to get my areses to 60 with minimal amount of effort

Rakurai
Oct 31, 2015, 09:41 AM
Are you able to convert unwanted Ares weapons into stones, as well?

Would certainly make getting on-class 13* easier assuming the exchange rate is reasonable.

Kondibon
Oct 31, 2015, 09:43 AM
Given Apprentice seemed to be a falz much more adept at summoning than the other Falzes I'm tickled by the idea that the previous Apprentice hosts would somehow.. carry this ability over and this would form the basis of a new class they develop. It's a stretch given Summoner might not even be a new class, I appreciate, but to me a fun thought.I brought up something similar a while back suggesting that the new class might have something to do with negative photons or something, meaning people who had a direct connection to them at some point would be able to use it. Soooo Matoi, Eucrta, and the PC. Matoi is still using a rod though, so it's unclear.

Maenara
Oct 31, 2015, 09:48 AM
I brought up something similar a while back suggesting that the new class might have something to do with negative photons or something, meaning people who had a direct connection to them at some point would be able to use it. Soooo Matoi, Eucrta, and the PC. Matoi is still using a rod though, so it's unclear.

She's a FO/SU, duh.

Azure Falcon
Oct 31, 2015, 09:50 AM
Are you able to convert unwanted Ares weapons into stones, as well?

Would certainly make getting on-class 13* easier assuming the exchange rate is reasonable.

Going by the video, yes. 20 stones per Ares you trade in, and to buy an Ares costs 60 stones for a light 20 element weapon.

Kondibon
Oct 31, 2015, 09:51 AM
She's a FO/SU, duh.That's kinda what I'm expecting, which is why I said it's just unclear. :P

Raujinn
Oct 31, 2015, 09:53 AM
Just because Matoi could doesn't mean she will.

Meteor Weapon
Oct 31, 2015, 10:03 AM
Was Dark Falz Apprentice design inspired from this or what?

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c374/abaxa/Phantasy%20Star%204/PS4-DF2Solo_lvl49_death.gif

Kondibon
Oct 31, 2015, 10:05 AM
Just because Matoi could doesn't mean she will.That's true too. Which again, is why I said it's unclear. It's not like we even know how it's going to work anyway.

Unnamed Player
Oct 31, 2015, 10:33 AM
http://j53.imgup.net/d435f345f39f88.png

So, they are going to ruin another one of my favorite PSO weapons... :no:

Meteor Weapon
Oct 31, 2015, 10:36 AM
Frozen Shooter? What's wrong with it?

KazukiQZ
Oct 31, 2015, 10:37 AM
^AFAIK, that will be available as 12* weapon from the new Matterboard.

Unnamed Player
Oct 31, 2015, 10:38 AM
Frozen Shooter? What's wrong with it?No insta freeze on non boss mobs.

Kondibon
Oct 31, 2015, 10:39 AM
No insta freeze on non boss mobs.Plot twist: Latent gives 100% freeze rate and freeze keep effect. :wacko:
I wish

KLMS1
Oct 31, 2015, 10:40 AM
No insta freeze on non boss mobs.

Can't imagine why.

Meteor Weapon
Oct 31, 2015, 10:41 AM
That would be a broken OP potent of a weapon though if that's implemented in the game. Maybe an increase freeze rate would be fine or better, innate high chance of freezing potential instead of being an affix.

Unnamed Player
Oct 31, 2015, 10:43 AM
That would be a broken OP potent of a weapon though if that's implemented in the game.Not really:

freeze in PSO >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> freeze in PSO2

Every MPA will break the ice instantaneously.

Meteor Weapon
Oct 31, 2015, 10:44 AM
Well that make sense.

Kondibon
Oct 31, 2015, 10:52 AM
I dunno... 100% freeze means you'd be able to spam it. That's a pretty big deal for such a fast firing weapon.

...
That girl doing the racaseal's voice. >_>

Unnamed Player
Oct 31, 2015, 10:59 AM
I dunno... 100% freeze means you'd be able to spam it. That's a pretty big deal for such a fast firing weapon.It would be on bosses but regular enemies are a different story, you're better off using a 13* weapon to nuke the field if it's not insta freezing the enemies(even if it is, nuking the field would be the better option most of the time).

Superia
Oct 31, 2015, 11:19 AM
I don't think it would be too useful in general, but if it shows up as an AR, Ra/X can finally do something in TD other than oneshot the bosses.

Maenara
Oct 31, 2015, 11:33 AM
Wave 5 has Falz Angel + Falz Hunar + Falz Dourumble, all out simultaneously.

Poyonche
Oct 31, 2015, 11:35 AM
Forced to get down to VH lol

Also nerfed WB in TD4.

Maenara
Oct 31, 2015, 11:40 AM
Mining Base Defense: Demise has nerfed weakbullet. kek

Shinamori
Oct 31, 2015, 11:41 AM
I'm think this might a thing for Mega EQ and Mega Bosses

cheapgunner
Oct 31, 2015, 11:50 AM
I'm think this might a thing for Mega EQ and Mega Bosses

True. Instead of a proper nerf to Wb, enemies and bosses at XH+ will just have resistance to the damn thing.

ArcaneTechs
Oct 31, 2015, 11:55 AM
Seeing the Are's Stone weps made me a little iffy but then i found out i can trade in the junk ones rotting in storage for stones, Sega did good.

now to await Ep4 trailer stuff

Alenoir
Oct 31, 2015, 11:56 AM
Apprentice have something that will keep spawning Demos until you break it.

Ichitarou was probably hitting THAT thing but the tower died.

PokeminMaster
Oct 31, 2015, 11:57 AM
Wave 5 has Falz Angel + Falz Hunar + Falz Dourumble, all out simultaneously.
I could be wrong, but I thought I saw a fourth thing spawn later on as well... is it possible Dio Hunar shows up too? (It was never shown on camera, I only ever saw it on the map)

Poyonche
Oct 31, 2015, 12:05 PM
Maybe it was Falz Arm.
I also saw a thing spawn later.

Maenara
Oct 31, 2015, 12:05 PM
Maybe it was a Lavos Doritos.

ArcaneTechs
Oct 31, 2015, 12:10 PM
have any of the secret phrases been shown yet? mind posting them if they have?

Shinamori
Oct 31, 2015, 12:18 PM
Stream is still going on, they're supposedly behind schedule.

Meteor Weapon
Oct 31, 2015, 12:22 PM
Because drinking game, based on what people in the chat box says.....lel derp

ArcaneTechs
Oct 31, 2015, 12:24 PM
Stream is still going on, they're supposedly behind schedule.
ah they usually throw a secret phrase then they do the end phrase, figured they may have done it by now. I heard about them falling behind too, i mean expect no less? haha

TheszNuts
Oct 31, 2015, 12:33 PM
Maybe Frozen Shooter will get the freeze lock pot the ES talis has?

Zorak000
Oct 31, 2015, 12:34 PM
I liked freeze for mining bases sometimes, but once people know what they are doing and are better geared, those kind of ticks give way to actually killing everything

Unnamed Player
Oct 31, 2015, 01:06 PM
Maybe Frozen Shooter will get the freeze lock pot the ES talis has?That would still be useless cause every MPA would break the ice instantaneously regardless of the higher durability. Like Superia said, slowing down the mobs during quests like TD would be the main use of this weapon(under the condition that it insta freezes the enemies, otherwise it would be too unreliable to be useful).

Chimeria
Oct 31, 2015, 01:10 PM
Only thing I'm looking forward to from all this is that Dark Coat...

Everything else so far just looks kind of blah. (clothes, crossovers, events etc.)

Hopefully the news on EP.4 is mindblowing.

cheapgunner
Oct 31, 2015, 01:14 PM
I'd love shields to come back from psz to pso2. Have some kind of absoprtion mechanism to them for projectiles, give the user a blade for combo pas.

>.>; Hell, slicers would be fine too.

Manta Oyamada
Oct 31, 2015, 01:36 PM
Mining Base Demise Gameplay

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiLx4mLL2hA&feature=youtu.be

Zanverse
Oct 31, 2015, 01:43 PM
Err, is there one with better quality?

Lyrise
Oct 31, 2015, 01:50 PM
This substream is all kinds of insanity when its not broadcasting meaningful programming. Innocently starting with snacks, and somehow leading to comedic acts, drinking games, karaoke, and in one case, stripping down to a bikini.

Zanverse
Oct 31, 2015, 01:59 PM
Also: I was trying real hard to tune out the annoying talking during the TD4 playthrough, and managed to hear bits and pieces of the BGM. So far, the intro to Wave 4 and all of Wave 5 are amazing! Wonder if someone's gonna datamine the full thing soon.

Kondibon
Oct 31, 2015, 02:02 PM
Episode 4 info should be next.

TaigaUC
Oct 31, 2015, 02:07 PM
I wonder how many people are too tired to be excited about the episode 4 info.

Poyonche
Oct 31, 2015, 02:09 PM
The time has come. Be readeh.

Kondibon
Oct 31, 2015, 02:10 PM
I actually got sleep last night, so not me. I'm trying to curb my enthusiasm though. :wacko:

Xaelouse
Oct 31, 2015, 02:11 PM
They mention ep4 once and the stream is already lagging to hell

Anduril
Oct 31, 2015, 02:12 PM
Well, it happened. Ass-slider.

Mega Ultra Chicken
Oct 31, 2015, 02:13 PM
BUTT SLIDERS CONFIRMED!

Kondibon
Oct 31, 2015, 02:13 PM
[WAIFUSIM INTINSIFIES]

TaigaUC
Oct 31, 2015, 02:13 PM
Well, that was unexpected. They implemented all the things I requested in the survey.
Rotate, scale accessories. Adjust head size, neck length, neck width.
Waist, butt sliders. Weapon placement. Influenced by Skyrim mods?

They added preview character under various lighting in este.
And lobby actions as well.

Renderless
Oct 31, 2015, 02:14 PM
They mention ep4 once and the stream is already lagging to hell

If you are watching Firesword's stream, there might be something wrong with his connection. There are other streams restreaming the live event.

Touka
Oct 31, 2015, 02:14 PM
Ass Slider,my life is complete now.

Renderless
Oct 31, 2015, 02:15 PM
Inventory can be expanded to 150. We can hoard more stuff now.

Angry_Ryudo
Oct 31, 2015, 02:15 PM
Ep4: ASS reborn

Ep4: A.S.S Revolution

Kondibon
Oct 31, 2015, 02:15 PM
His stream is lagging, but it's not skipping so you aren't missing anything, you'll just be a bit behind.

Lyrise
Oct 31, 2015, 02:16 PM
I think they may have addressed the issue with not being able to send things directly to extra storage anymore. You can extend your local character storage from 300 all the way to 1000.

On character item pack goes from 100 > 150 to accomodate for the es players who end up carrying 5x more equipment than the average player.

TaigaUC
Oct 31, 2015, 02:16 PM
It takes some time to reupload the data.
The Japanese mirror I checked earlier today was a little behind too.

In case anyone missed it, Episode 4 is due out 27th of January.

Maenara
Oct 31, 2015, 02:18 PM
Ass slider trailer upload pls

TaigaUC
Oct 31, 2015, 02:21 PM
Oh yeah, body paint layers. I requested that too.

Stickboy
Oct 31, 2015, 02:23 PM
ppl can maek aliens now

Kondibon
Oct 31, 2015, 02:24 PM
The "ass slider" includes the waist and hips too.

EDIT: A neck and shoulder slider? OMG!

EDIT: OMG HEAD SCALING THAT ISN'T BASED ON HEIGHT! *faints*


I think they may have addressed the issue with not being able to send things directly to extra storage anymore. That's good to know. I still think it was weird of them to announce it on its own so soon when it's not coming out for months though.
You can extend your local character storage from 300 all the way to 1000.

http://media.giphy.com/media/1M9fmo1WAFVK0/giphy.gif

Shinamori
Oct 31, 2015, 02:24 PM
There's over 200K viewers on the official channel, so they will be some lag.

Anduril
Oct 31, 2015, 02:25 PM
Oh lord. I can just imagine the incoming giant-headed abominations.

Kondibon
Oct 31, 2015, 02:28 PM
Oh lord. I can just imagine the incoming giant-headed abominations.Personally I'm excited to make Milla look scaled down instead of like a kid.

TaigaUC
Oct 31, 2015, 02:29 PM
Butt slider looked a little limited.

I can't wait to see the possibilities of people scaling and rotating accessories.
Gonna be a lot of hilarious combinations.

Anduril
Oct 31, 2015, 02:29 PM
Personally I'm excited to make Milla look scaled down instead of like a kid.
That's a legitimate use of it. I talking the trolling characters that we'll inevitably see. I know I want to shrink Andrea's head a bit as well since it seems a bit oversized on her frame.

Renderless
Oct 31, 2015, 02:30 PM
You can resize and reposition accessories. And they are now showing new cast customization?

Kondibon
Oct 31, 2015, 02:32 PM
Butt slider looked a little limited.

I can't wait to see the possibilities of people scaling and rotating accessories.
Gonna be a lot of hilarious combinations.
Milla can finally wear cast accessories without them floating in space while being bigger than her entire torso.


That's a legitimate use of it. I talking the trolling characters that we'll inevitably see. I know I want to shrink Andrea's head a bit as well since it seems a bit oversized on her frame.Oh, I know what you meant. I'm just excitedly gyrating in place right now.

Nyansan
Oct 31, 2015, 02:32 PM
Hngggggg, all the things I've ever wanted!
I can now create the perfect trapmy characters just as I've imagined them

TaigaUC
Oct 31, 2015, 02:35 PM
Arms still look kinda fat though. Wish we could thin the arms out a little more.

ZER0 DX
Oct 31, 2015, 02:37 PM
Finally, different lighting and locations in the character creator. Hopefully we get a bunch of free este passes.

TaigaUC
Oct 31, 2015, 02:38 PM
They said there's more, the best is yet to come. They've hidden it for later.

Could it be that they split up all the clothing parts like I requested?
That would explain the huge increase in storage...

Kondibon
Oct 31, 2015, 02:38 PM
Finally, different lighting and locations in the character creator. Hopefully we get a bunch of free este passes.They're one of the login rewards.

Nyansan
Oct 31, 2015, 02:38 PM
New class!1!

Z-0
Oct 31, 2015, 02:39 PM
Yep, Summoner.

Maenara
Oct 31, 2015, 02:39 PM
SUMMONER CONFIRMED

oratank
Oct 31, 2015, 02:40 PM
new class pokemon trainer

TaigaUC
Oct 31, 2015, 02:40 PM
Flying dog?
Those are some weird looking pets. Some of them look like Nyau :(

Kondibon
Oct 31, 2015, 02:40 PM
I wanna be the very best.

Stickboy
Oct 31, 2015, 02:41 PM
it's more of a magician than a summoner though

cheapgunner
Oct 31, 2015, 02:41 PM
I wanna be the very best.

Like no one ever was

LonelyGaruga
Oct 31, 2015, 02:42 PM
Summoner is boring, so disappointed.

Anduril
Oct 31, 2015, 02:42 PM
Booooo. Hiiiiissss. Why did they have to go with cutesy fantasy-esque familiars? They should have been PB like. *pout*

Xaelouse
Oct 31, 2015, 02:42 PM
Hope they show stuff for other classes

Z-0
Oct 31, 2015, 02:43 PM
Yeah, Summoner looks like it won't be fun at all. The gameplay looks gimmicky and slow compared to everything else. You stand still and swing a baton while your summon attacks enemies? Idk...

Would have to wait and see.

TheszNuts
Oct 31, 2015, 02:44 PM
Imagine 4 summoner clones

Maenara
Oct 31, 2015, 02:44 PM
I was hoping they would be less cutesy. Ech.

wefwq
Oct 31, 2015, 02:45 PM
Are we pokemon or something now?

TaigaUC
Oct 31, 2015, 02:45 PM
Glad I'm not the only one who thought Summoner looked weird.
Was expecting everyone to tear my head off.

Poyonche
Oct 31, 2015, 02:46 PM
I would have liked a Mini-Helix, and i got a dog mixed with a pink gryphon.

Kondibon
Oct 31, 2015, 02:47 PM
I'm ambivalent. That bird is cool, but I agree that they're too cutesy, I was kinda hoping that if they had different options they would be more varied in aesthetic.

I have no problem with standing around telling a pet to attack stuff though. That's literally why I want a summoner class. Some people feel strong oneshotting things with wands, I feel strong bossing around hapless minions. :wacko:

Cyron Tanryoku
Oct 31, 2015, 02:48 PM
heard butt slider

youtube'd it

not impressed

Nyansan
Oct 31, 2015, 02:48 PM
Silly PSOW, they obviously made them sickeningly cute so people would spend to change their look with AC items :wacko:

Unnamed Player
Oct 31, 2015, 02:49 PM
Are we pokemon or something now?Just wait for the pokemon collab.

LonelyGaruga
Oct 31, 2015, 02:49 PM
I would have liked a class where you fought in conjunction with your summon, but nooo.

Can this class even use techs? They didn't show it use any, but the dodge for the baton-like weapon it had was clearly Mirage Escape. Or maybe they did use techs and I just didn't see.

TheszNuts
Oct 31, 2015, 02:51 PM
じゅうごたろう for secret phrase

TaigaUC
Oct 31, 2015, 02:51 PM
Yeah, I was expecting the summon to fight on its own and you can give it orders.
Like the Hunter pets in WoW.

I hope the keyword present comes in a packed set so I don't have to waste 15 slots.

Zyrusticae
Oct 31, 2015, 02:52 PM
Booooo. Hiiiiissss. Why did they have to go with cutesy fantasy-esque familiars? They should have been PB like. *pout*

Yeah, Summoner looks like it won't be fun at all. The gameplay looks gimmicky and slow compared to everything else. You stand still and swing a baton while your summon attacks enemies? Idk...

Would have to wait and see.

I was hoping they would be less cutesy. Ech.

They're pretty blatantly taking cues from Blade & Soul's summoner (http://www.bladeandsoul.com/en/game/classes/summoner/). Basically the exact same demographic.

Eh, it's not for me, but I can see what they're going for, at least.

Meteor Weapon
Oct 31, 2015, 02:52 PM
Only a few tidbits and there's already complaining, lol you guys are funny.

Shady3011
Oct 31, 2015, 02:53 PM
Episode 4: Re-Bored

Mattykins
Oct 31, 2015, 02:53 PM
Anyone have any of that Ep4 stuff uploaded? I missed it D:

LonelyGaruga
Oct 31, 2015, 02:54 PM
Only a few tidbits and there's already complaining, lol you guys are funny.

What else do we need to see to make these observations? The first impressions of Braver and Bouncer gameplay were pretty much spot-on in regards to how the classes played. Aesthetics especially.

dingophone
Oct 31, 2015, 02:55 PM
Looks too clunky and slow to be useful. I just wanted a Guntecher, SEGA :(

Superia
Oct 31, 2015, 02:59 PM
I wasn't watching the stream. Should I even look at summoner or just be innately disappointed?

Raujinn
Oct 31, 2015, 02:59 PM
The summons shoulda been more like stands from Jojo.

Hopefully theres some badass/monstrous summons they didn't show..

dingophone
Oct 31, 2015, 03:00 PM
The summons shoulda been more like stands from Jojo.

This would have been incredible and awesome, but instead we get pokemon.

Kondibon
Oct 31, 2015, 03:00 PM
I wasn't watching the stream. Should I even look at summoner or just be innately disappointed?If you take the pet out it's basically waving a wand around and enemies get hurt. It's not as flashy as Braver or Bo were.


The summons shoulda been more like stands from Jojo.

Hopefully theres some badass/monstrous summons they didn't show..I think they're going to be skills like stances or something.

NoiseHERO
Oct 31, 2015, 03:00 PM
they showed summoner? and no jojo stands OR blade wolf? <_> rip

Superia
Oct 31, 2015, 03:03 PM
If you take the pet out it's basically waving a wand around and enemies get hurt. It's not as flashy as Braver or Bo were.

Is the pet a part of the attack? Like, is it actually just a long ranged attack with pet visuals?

Mattykins
Oct 31, 2015, 03:03 PM
Man, like... iunno, I dunno how they fit into the aesthetic of the game. I guess... they kinda look like Nyau? Kinda? If you look at them a certain way? It just looks like "Hey, we made these cute pet things. Just stuff 'em in there somewhere."

Kondibon
Oct 31, 2015, 03:04 PM
Is the pet a part of the attack? Like, is it actually just a long ranged attack with pet visuals?From what I can tell yeah. There's probably more to it than that though.

EDIT: I assume most people have kept this in mind, but lets not forget, we haven't seen the skill tree. For all we know it could have a bunch of amazing support skills and end up replacing Ra in the Te/Ra combo. We also didn't see a second weapon. The attacks the summons used didn't seem different so I doubt they're related to the weapons, which makes me wonder if they got talis or something. I hope they don't just have that baton thing and gunslash.

Cyron Tanryoku
Oct 31, 2015, 03:05 PM
game still look like doodoo

Superia
Oct 31, 2015, 03:06 PM
From what I can tell yeah. There's probably more to it than that though.

Damn.

Enforcer MKV
Oct 31, 2015, 03:06 PM
I wasn't watching the stream. Should I even look at summoner or just be innately disappointed?

I'd say you should always look at something and draw your own conclusions.

I wouldn't judge it based on other people's opinions, anyway. Just because the Gallery doesn't like doesn't mean you're gonna dislike it.

Unnamed Player
Oct 31, 2015, 03:06 PM
The summons shoulda been more like stands from Jojo.It depens, if they only showed of 1* pets the 13* pets could still be decent, but we won't know untill next year.

dingophone
Oct 31, 2015, 03:07 PM
I just noticed none of the chars in the trailer have mags. Summons might replace them for this class?

Anduril
Oct 31, 2015, 03:09 PM
I just noticed none of the chars in the trailer have mags. Summons might replace them for this class?
The Bouncer trailer didn't have mags either, so maybe not.

LonelyGaruga
Oct 31, 2015, 03:09 PM
Summoner trailer. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MigdCDp52zY)

cheapgunner
Oct 31, 2015, 03:10 PM
The summons shoulda been more like stands from Jojo.

Hopefully theres some badass/monstrous summons they didn't show..

That or like Psu's hulk arms where you summon large arms to smash everything around you. But stands would be even more awesome indeed.

Tenlade
Oct 31, 2015, 03:10 PM
It depens, if they only showed of 1* pets the 13* pets could still be decent, but we won't know untill next year.

There's a good chance the pets don't change and its instead the baton itself that changes. That's ussually how summoner/pet using classes work in online games.

That said, those games ussually have a cosmetic option to change the pets, and here's to hoping you can replace them with stuff like monster skins or such. I'd be sold on the class if I could replace the nyau-like thing with say a mini banther or chrome dragon skin.

DatFox
Oct 31, 2015, 03:10 PM
"Shtay away from da shummoner!"

... But yeah, they look pretty boring to me. 3/10, needed more nanomachines, son.

PokeminMaster
Oct 31, 2015, 03:11 PM
There was... no end teaser... I guess the Summoner video kinda counts... meh

Kondibon
Oct 31, 2015, 03:13 PM
I take back what I said. They do seem to have different attacks.

Manta Oyamada
Oct 31, 2015, 03:13 PM
New Class : Summoner

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwuN2L1LEOY&feature=youtu.be

Mattykins
Oct 31, 2015, 03:16 PM
Man, first real info on Ep4 and the biggest thing so far is the ass-slider lol

Tell me I'm wrong.

TheszNuts
Oct 31, 2015, 03:16 PM
inb4Satosummon80mil?

Superia
Oct 31, 2015, 03:18 PM
Think Summoner has techs?


Man, first real info on Ep4 and the biggest thing so far is the ass-slider lol

Tell me I'm wrong.

You're not wrong.

Kondibon
Oct 31, 2015, 03:18 PM
I wish they showed us a bit more. The only useful looking thing I could glean from that is that they seem to be able to draw aggro.


Think Summoner has techs?I hope so. I also hope it has skills for stuff other than the pets so it's not another class you only take if you use its weapon.

yoshiblue
Oct 31, 2015, 03:19 PM
Dreams do come true.jpg

Azure Falcon
Oct 31, 2015, 03:19 PM
Lol, rather funny that the changes to accessories and body paint are far more interesting than Summoner appears to be. Can't see I'll ever use that class, unless of course one of the other weapon classes it can use is PSU's whips.

Maenara
Oct 31, 2015, 03:20 PM
Two gripes with Summoner:
•Summons are waaaay too fucking cutesy. They don't remotely fit the game's overall 'tough' aesthetic.
•Doesn't bring anything new to the table when it could have easily done so. While your summon is attacking? Your character can't do anything but move around, it seems. It defeats the purpose of summoning.

Also, they didn't show the new planet in the trailer. Severely disappointed. I wanted to be more right than I already was.

Mattykins
Oct 31, 2015, 03:20 PM
Oh yeah, in the CC trailer, near the end they played with the height adjuster. Did Sega change that at all, or was that just them gaying around with it?

Sica
Oct 31, 2015, 03:20 PM
So, no new character creator? Can't wait to test the butt slider.

Zanverse
Oct 31, 2015, 03:23 PM
Ass-slider for male characters too, pls.

Superia
Oct 31, 2015, 03:24 PM
•Doesn't bring anything new to the table when it could have easily done so. While your summon is attacking? Your character can't do anything but move around, it seems. It defeats the purpose of summoning.

On the off-chance that Sega cared about making the class unique, maybe there will be a toggle skill that has your summon sandbox while you can cast techs or something. I might be misremembering, but I thought some of the stuff you datamined had "AI" in it. I guess it could just be a follow-summoner package though.

Kondibon
Oct 31, 2015, 03:26 PM
Ass-slider for male characters too, pls.They showed it on a male cast too, so yes, male characters have it as well.

Zorua
Oct 31, 2015, 03:26 PM
I can't believe so many of you are complaining. Summoner can be as boring as possible and I won't care at all. We're getting ass sliders, man! Ass sliders!

Seriously, what more could you want?

wefwq
Oct 31, 2015, 03:26 PM
Instead of varying stuff, summoner looks like average tech class but instead of using rod/wand to cast the genocide bomb, they're using little critters to do the job...
Esthe upgrade are top-tier though.