Article: Phantasy Star Online ... for Gamecube?

[watashiwa]

Cube writes, ""The real deal." Sources close to Sega Europe have indicated that Sonic Team's incredible online RPG is to be announced by Sega for Gamecube next week! "

This article is more news from the rumor mill. PSOW staff members Mistkerl Zwo and myself will be attending E3, so expect updates and pictures regarding all things PSO (v2 and more..) on a regular basis during E3 time. ;)According to insiders a game "similar" to Phantasy Star Online is to be revealed for Gamecube at E3 next week. Two sources have confirmed today that several Gamecube games will be shown at the expo. Sega is to show at least 10 title behind closed doors on the Sega stand, including Xbox, PlayStation 2 and Game Boy Advance product. Rumours have been circulating for some time that Sega and Nintendo were collaborating on an online RPG playable across both Dreamcast and Gamecube. Early indications point to something slightly different, possibly even a completely exclusive PSO title for the Nintendo machine, not Phantasy Star Online 2 as previously thought. Naka-san, the head of the legendary development team behind the Dreamcast classic, is known to be fully discussing the second instalment on the Sega console. Sega is holding a press conference at E3, and I will be there to give PSOW the low-down. Looks like big news is going to be announced!!!!!!!

[webrunner]

Unique PSO product = BAD. PSO2 on multiplatform, with interoperability = GOOD

PSO+Gamecube=BAD
PSO+Dreamcast=Very Good
I say leave PSO on the Dreamcast, why ruin a great by putting it on the GC, it will destory PSO's great name.
In short PSO on GC bad. If it goes on the Crapstation 2 it will be worst.

[Mafu2k1]

SFTU!!!
If PSO stays exclusively on dreamcast, it would probably die with the system. Everyone thats wise (and has the money) is eventually going to buy a system other than Dreamcast... you might as well have a good Sega game on it. :P
-Mafu

[THE-star-FISH]

PSO+gamecube=get ready for the end of the world
PSO+stay only on dreamcast= I think Im in heaven
PSO should stay on dreamcast. People would want to by more dreamcast when PSO stays on for dreamcast.
If the PSO go to gamecube it will just fuck up everything.
Gamecube suks my ass
Dreamcast playstation 2 and XBOX is they best they rock my world!!!!!!!

Pso 2 will most likely be on the Dreamcast. Later instalments will be on other systems, I love PSO and the Dreamcast kicks Playstation 2's ass. But PSO past 2 will have to be on another system. Lets see what the news brings! Until then lets all search for rares!!!!

Forces Rule!!!!!!

[Giotto]

...wouldn't it be great to be playing PSO2 on Dreamcast while interacting with others on Game Cube. Then we can tell them how much they suck!!! Ha Ha Ha...lol.

PSO going to the GC will fuck up everything? really. please, explain how. how is this game on the GC going to fuck up anything? i would really like to hear whatever twisted logic brought you around to this conclusion. or is it merely ''cause Nintendo sucks'?

[THE-star-FISH]

well it will fuck up everything because first
1.Phantasy star is a serie first brought for the sega consoles and has been since how long ago
2.If PSO does go to GC they wll need more maintenance and the players already playing won't be able to play because of all the server change
3.PSO should always be on dream cast for it is the only "cool" online RPG I ever played.
4.Nintendo suks bals through my ass
okay

[THE-star-FISH]

NINTENDO SUCKS!!!
DREAMcast is Best
then the PS2
then the XBOX
then maybe PSX
then all the other game system other than the ones from NINTENDO
Ill say it again
NINTENDO SUCKS!!!

hmm seems so many ppl have forgoten, or didnt experience the nes or snes, nintendo is a very good company, N64 floped ok, most everyone knows this, but GC will be alot better, ps was a sega only thing but so was sonic, but your not complaining of sonic being on gba, pso moving to gc will keep the game fresh, and alive, the dc was a damn good machine and im sad to see it dieing like this, but it is. but just because a good game is on a machine made by some one other than sega, doesnt make the game any less

just a bunch of fan boys. I guess old habits die hard though huh? I guess some rivalries will simply never end. Gonna be hard for you fan boys to accept that Sega will make great games regardless of the console. Heh, what will you do when there is no sega system and only sega games?

I guess old habits die hard, eh? Bet you had a genesis instead of a super Nintendo didn't ya? Whatever.
Heh heh, what will you do when there is no sega system and only sega games?

[watashiwa]

Hahahahaa.. That they do. Hehe .. That they do. Forces definitely own. ;)

[THE-star-FISH]

Thats when I take out my super mod chipped dreamcast for dreamcast games
and If it ever does move to the GC then its a stupid bummer because I am going to have to buy a new game system
but if it ever does move it should also move to PS2 or maybe the rumored PS3 rumored that will be coming out in about 5 years.
heh and I didn't have a genesis I had a NES and thought it suked so I bought a N64 and thought it would be better but it suked more so I bought a PSx and Dremcast then my PS2 and hopefully Ill be able to buy the Xbox

[Fargo]

God above, what a bunch of Platform facists most of you are!!!
Anybody give a shit about the games?
Because I thought that's what mattered, not the system they were on.
We know very little about the Game Cube as of yet,
and of course the first few months of PS2 sucked (anyone remember the dross that the DC started out with?), but the good stuff is on it's way - Hurdy Gurdy, Project Eden, MGS2 for starters
Even X-box, which I'm dubious about, is showing real promise - especially Halo...
Grow up, please, and get used to the fact that all life does not shine out of Sega's ass, and certainly not anymore they've packed it all in.
So, when Sega stops making games for the DC anymore, what are you going to do?
If you aren't multi-platform soon, you will be left behind. And don't whinge that you don't have the cash - nor do I - it's called getting a job.
I look forward to be being flamed with relish. Bring it on.

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yes. Anyway, gamecube will love you up in a rub a dub stylee. How can anything that looks so cool, be cack?

[Iniaes]

I don't see anything wrong with a little console loyalty. Well, it may get out of hand when you see people in the lobby chanting "gamecube suX0rs".
I think I've owned every piece of Sega hardware from the Master system to the 32X to the Samba Maracas. They *made* great hardware... and that's all there is to it. We were all sad to see them get out of the hardware game, but by the same token I'm sure we'll all still support Sega in their new direction.
Shit... I sound like a PR rep.

I agree to wot mafu said, it's true, once DC die, PSO will follow it, but if it's on other console, at least, v can still play PSO

do u really think this is true.afterall this comes from sega europe.there not even gonna get version 2.its just some mad european tryin to fake people out.

[Cronical]

Anyone with half a brain can see why they are doing this. Well, I forget most of you don't go back 5 years or more. So, FYI, Sega and Nintendo were always the only gaming companies, and still are. They are true companies, unlike Sony and Microsoft who mass market total crap so they can get enough money to mass market more crap. these financial strategies EVENTUALLY get caught on to by the general public, and then those companies die. However, as always, Nintendo proves once again they use their brain to market. Instead of mass marketing low grade products for 5 years like Sony did, they held back and put their efforts into a bigger picture. They used Pokemon as a financial support system, thus keeping them rich in financial resources. Now that the point in which the mass market scheme is to be caught on to by the zombified followers after they see the truth through crap like PS2, Nintendo will have 5 years of power ready to be unleashed, and BOOM! Nintendo is gonna make those crackerjacks go out like Sega :)
Thus, Sega is smart to put it on Gamecube. First, Nintendo is of course Sega's big brother company, and secondly, nobody would be playing anything on PS2 or XBox after its dead.
Thank you Sega for doing the right thing, not the mindless "look what is hot now" thing.

If you think about it, this rumor could be true. For 1, sega anonced pso2 would not be on a sega platform, and 2, sonic team is developing for the dreamcast, gameboy advance, and gamecube. Sega already said pso2 will not be on dreamcast so gamecube seems more logical than gameboy advance.

I've been around since the pre-NES days and have found that the majority who yell out "Such and such sytem sux!" are the ones who can't afford ALL the systems. I've had the pleasure of owning ALL the systems to date and each system has its strengths and its weaknesses. So, "GROW UP!" (then again, some of you never will). You know, if these same people bought cars, I bet the ones who buy Lamboughinis will yell out "Ferraris suck!"

I think that rumor is correct because 1)sega anounced that pso2 would not be on a sega system 2)sonic team is developing for dreamcast, gameboy, and gamecube. Of the gamecube and gameboy, the gamecube seems like the most logical decision.

[Cronical]

Did you even have aa debate over it being on GBA or GC? Hehe, that would be a good April Fools joke.... PSO for GBA, hehe.

[TapamN]

Well, Gamecube is better then PS2, at least. Much better.

[protosakura]

Wow "why ruin Pso's good name by putting it on the GCN"? thats right leave it on the DC the near dead system, sure. Yuji Naka himself said he loved the gamecube when he first saw it a nintendo spaceworld, it was inevitable, would you folks rather see it on the playstation? nintenedo and sega shared the same vision even as rivals they are the best of the gaming world you guys should count your lucky stars it didn't end up in sonys hands or *shudder* microcrap.

no i think it could very posibly happen, ive read and heard, (could all be rumors) but even ign has said that sonic team is thinking very strongly about developeing for nintendo exclusivly,

[Cronical]

I'm glad someone sees why it must be this way.

[Ukyou]

Hmph, I own just about all the system, but I still hate Sony =P
I loved my lil Saturn, but Sony killed that system off with the huge amount of games... 90% of which really sucked...
What Sega should do is make a PS2 smashing contest! Contestants get these heavy rubber mallets, whoever smashes the most in 1 minute wins a copy of PSO2 before it's supposed to be out... =D
Oh man, I'd love that ^_^

The PSO will be better on PS2 or Xbox even though nintendo and sega are truly a game company.On the gamecube I bet the game will be very slow and have super sucky graphics

What I wanna know is why you think that. as far as I can tell the GC has pretty fine graphics and I don't see how it could be "slow".

[shortiboi4]

pso2 would be best on the g-cube. the hardcore system and game for the hardcore gamer. u know all u guys r hardcore gamerz or else u wouldn't know what the hell pso is. nintendo and sega are the ogs of video games. who said that the game would look slow and ugly on the g-cube? u gotta be one stupid mofo to even think that. the g-cube is well planned and built. even yuji naka liked it, the same damn guy who brought u this game. u better not crack on what he thinks is best for the damn series. so shut your damn mouths and let him do what he needs to do to keep the damn series runnin! personally, the most LOGICAL and STRATEGIC-notice those two words- thing to do is make a version for ps2. maybe it wouldn't be good but its pretty damn popular which is better for Sonic Team. what if microsoft bought the letter "L" forcing sony to change the system name to "Paystation"? i don't know what the hell i was thinkin. just popped into my head as i was typing.

PSO 2 will not be on Dreamcast!!? Darn!

Well since the Playstation 2 has no damn modem, and broadband is like expensive as heck right now, I hope it comes out for the GameCube. It already has been known for a long time that Nintendo and Sega were working on a top secret RPG together, why not PSO2?! If Gamecube has the same networking choices that the Dreamcast had; modem, and broadband I am all for it. Every system has its strengths and faults, the one who is the "winner" has the best games!

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Are you mad?

Actually, what IGN said was that Sonic Team would be developing for GC for now. They did NOT say that it would be exclusive. There is still a very real possibility that Sonic Team may develop for other consoles. Let's keep the facts straight, shall we?

Okay, that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
1.So Phantasy Star started on Sega machines. SO WHAT!! For example: Didn't Final Fantasy start on Nintendo machines, then move to the PSX? Didn't the series get more exposure AFTER the move to PSX?
2.What maintenance are you talking about? Sega has done tons of maintenance to the servers without there being a *huge* hit to playing time. Nintendo could do the same exact thing. Heck, the smart thing to do would be to just use Seganet. It's already up & running.
3.Umm, okay. Obviously you've never played Diablo, Ultima Online, Everquest, etc. Sega doesn't own the "patent" for "cool" online RPGs. Sheesh.
4.Okay here's where your bias really comes through. As much as I've disliked many of their business practices, Nintendo is a force to be reckoned with in the industry. Heck, PSO's battle system would have been greatly improved if Sega had utilized the lock-on targeting system employed in Zelda:Ocarina of Time. Nintendo single-handedly revitalized the game industry in the 80's & have several well-known franchises. If it weren't for the popularity of characters like Mario, Zelda or Samus Aran, there'd be no Sonic, Rayman or Crash Bandicoot. Nintendo may not be my favorite company in the industry, but at least I give them their credit when it's deserved.

Hello, folks i would like to say a few logical things then I'm off. 1st of all I've been playing games for years as in like 16 years. Nintendo and Sega are both the only true platform game systems out there . Now I'm not going to start bashing all the other systems out there but if you are a die hard gamer and I know you guys and ladies , HeHe, are remember this Sega brought you the Dreamcast and brought u the Pso to beginne with so why not trust their judgement in their hands. And be glad that the 2 are making games togehter FINNALY how many times have u spent in your living room playing games thinking man i wish we could have Sonic on nintendo or even Phantisy Star I kno for sure Nintendo heads were wishing it so lets rejoice and TELL SEGA TO BRINGEM ON WE ARE READY!!

Umm, excuse me? Sega made great hardware? Okay, let's see here:
1.Sega CD
2.Sega 32X
3.Sega Saturn
All of these platforms are recognized throughout the industry as failures. Despite the fact that Sega hyped up to be the best things going, they never lived up to their so-called potential & were, in the face of other machines, very mediocre. What other company has had a string of hardware failures as extensive as Sega?
No, Sega's strong point has ALWAYS been software, not hardware. Even Sega has stated this several times throughout it's history. I, for one, am glad that they will be concentrating totally on software, leaving the hardware to other, more capable companies. Although the DC is a nice piece of hardware, it pales in comparison to PS2, GC or XBox. Their move to hardware was done at the right time & for all the right reasons.

Here we go with more bias. Cronical, you are obviously forgetting your game history.
In the days of the SNES & Genesis, both of these systems had so much unbelievably mediocre crap on them, that many industry insiders feared another videogame crash was imminent. Anybody remember games likes Pushover on SNES? Didn't think so. Or how about the abysmally poor software on the 32X (besides Doom)? Yep, that's how horrible a lot of their dreck was, dreck that both Nintendo & Sega were more than happy to put on their respective systems. Yet, who came along & boosted the industry? Gee, it was Sony wasn't it? With their PSX, no less. Sony not only raised the industry out of it's slump but it also raised the quality bar of the existing genres (games like WipeOut), while introducing whole new genres at the same time (Twisted Metal). Heck, the PSX threatened & frightened Sega so badly, they released the Saturn almost a full six months earlier than they had originally planned. Even Nintendo, who's previous ad campaign stated, "Who needs a new system?", very quickly switched gears as they watched PSX succeed with innovative, fun software. Then, all of a sudden, they announced their N64 system with the ad campaign, "Change the system." Pretty shaky behavior, if you ask me.
ALL video game companies are out to do one thing & one thing only: MAKE MONEY. This includes Nintendo & Sega. So before anyone goes spouting off about how Nintendo & Sega are the only "true" game companies that care about their customers, check your history. You'll find that a lot of your gripes about the PS2 & XBox have precedents that were already set by Nintendo & Sega.
In the final analysis, the games are what matters. Not the companies or the systems. So rather than bash other companies & systems because of our own short-sighted biases, let's be just a little objective here, okay?

Yet even more bias ensues. Buddy, have you forgotten the amount of sheer crap that appeared on the Saturn? Sony didn't kill off the Saturn. Sega did that all by themselves, thank you very much. There were precious few games on the Saturn that were truly worth buying. So let's lay off the garbage about how the majority of games on other systems suck/sucked. It's a fact that all the systems have had quite a glut of mediocre games. This will likely be true for the new systems as well. To even think of pointing an accusing finger at another system while blindly protecting your own, only shows your level of ignorance. Careful, your naivete is showing.

Does the BS ever stop? Hey, buddy, I've been playing games for about 20 years & this whole nonsense about there being "true" platform game systems is a load of CRAP. Sega & Nintendo are companies that, SURPRISE, are out to make money. They have crapped on gamers time & time again, yet people like you act as if they do no wrong & companies like Sony & Microsoft are the "bad guys". And you have the audacity to say that your statements are logical?
Let's start with Nintendo. Remember the Virtual Boy? Nintendo pushed that like it was going out of style. They placed demos of it in retail stores everywhere. Never mind the fact that it did horrible things to your eyes (despite your age) & the games that were released for it were not groundbreaking. How about the glut of terrible software they allowed on both their NES & SNES systems? How about the terrible things Nintendo put 3rd parties through just so these companies could put games on their system while fattening Nintendo's wallets? How about their brilliant move to make the N64 cartridge-based knowing full well this would result in increased prices to consumers? Nintendo was widely known as the "Microsoft of the gaming industry". I could go on & on but let's shift gears to Sega now.
Sega CD, Sega 32X, Sega Saturn: Do any of these ring a bell? They should. They were all miserable attempts by Sega to introduce "cutting-edge" game systems to unsuspecting gamers everywhere. All were failures & none lived out the normal life expectancy of a succesfull system (about 5 years). Sega's engineers were reamed by their respective bosses after Sony introduced the PSX & it proved to be more powerful & versatile than the Saturn. Only then did Sega build on any type of 3D support, which was lackluster at best. Let's not forget that Sega has also been guilty of having a flood of mediocre software on it's platforms.
Let us also not forget that it was Sony, not Sega or Nintendo, who revitalized the industry in the 90's. Back when many industry insiders were predicting another videogame crash, Sony released the PSX & gave ol' Sega & Nintendo a kick in their complacency. Even with all these glaring facts, it amuses me that so many people point fingers at the PS2 & Xbox, calling their games "nothing special". Fact is, neither Sega nor Nintendo have had stellar launch lineups either. Every hardcore gamer knows that you usually don't start seeing the true power of a system until the 2nd & 3rd generation of titles. Despite this, Xbox has very impressive titles set for launch/near-launch; Halo being probably the first to come to mind. Sony, too, has some promising titles on the horizon.
Interestingly enough, hardcore gamers don't fall into the "my system is better than your system" pitfall. They don't have allegiances & they aren't unpaid PR reps for game companies. They're true gamers, through & through, who realize one very important thing about the industry: Competition is everything. If any one company gets a stranglehold on the market, you can look forward to a flood of uninspirational, cookie-cutter crap. Competition is what makes this industry work & more competition is even better. And to ignore all the wonderful contributions that Sony & Microsoft have/will bring to the table, is truly sad. That's not hardcore, that's just ignorance.

Sony didn't give the industry shit. You keep going on and on about how they brought out all these "innovative, quality titles" but really, like what? Sony isn't a gaming company - they have the trillions of third party devs to thank for their platforms success, so stop making it sound like they singlehandedly pulled video games out of the path of destruction.
Anyway, I for one am happy that there's a possibility of PSO2 ending up on Gamecube. If it can't be on a Sega, it being on a Nintendo is definitely the next best thing. ;)

[Giotto]

I second that. Who else has their online agenda in check? Nobody. If nothing else though, you know Nintendo will; even if it's just to make a profit. The next online RPG will do just fine in their capable hands.

Boy, you really are biased, aren't you? Otherwise you'd know that...SURPRISE!! NEITHER NINTENDO OR SEGA STARTED OUT AS GAME COMPANIES! Why don't you do a little research before you start spouting off about something you obviously know precious little about?
If you were at all knowledgeable about the game industry, you'd realize that EVERY game platform relies on 3rd party support; without it, you can kiss your console goodbye. Go back & take a look at the successful games on Nintendo's previous systems. Except for only a handful of titles, MOST of their big hits were from 3rd parties. So don't go on & on about Sony being the only company with a ton of 3rd party support. Before each system release, guess what Nintendo & Sega usually do. Court the 3rd parties, that's what. Because they know they can't survive without them. No one system can live on 1st & 2nd party support alone. Third parties are VITAL to EVERY company that makes hardware. That is fact & it is irrefutable. And while we're on the subject, I guess you've forgotten about 989 Studios, an INTERNAL development house within Sony. They were only responsible for one of Sony's biggest money makers: the NFL Gameday series, among others. This series of titles for the PSX was so well made, many industry insiders & hardcore gamers still argue today over which is better: Gameday or Madden. So how's that for substantal 1st party support?
And no, Sony didn't single-handedly pull video games out of the path of destruction. However, they did give Sega & Nintendo quite the kick in their complacency. Remember your videogame history. Sega was content with releasing the Saturn as a 2D workhorse, with little to no 3D support. While Nintendo, knowing that both Sega & Sony had machines on the horizon, claimed that they didn't need to make a new system & then tried to prove it by releasing Donkey Kong Country on the SNES. It wasn't much more than another Mario game with a few twists & stilted animation but, hey, it satisfied the industry for a little while (emphasis on "little"). Meanwhile, games sales were going down & the gaming press & gaming enthusiasts saw a videogame crash coming due to the glut of mediocre software that was showing up on BOTH Nintendo's AND Sega's machines. Sega, in an attempt to combat the imminent release of the PSX, released their Saturn early, alienating certain retailers & angering 3rd parties who ended up not having product ready for the Saturn's launch due to the bumping up of the release date. Sony contributed quite a bit to this industry, at a time when neither Sega or Nintendo were really pressed with TRULY giving their customers the "next level of gaming". Face it, the PSX's audio video capabilities were very impressive. And quality software? Don't tell me you forgot about Wipeout, Ridge Racer, Tekken, Warhawk, Twisted Metal, Gameday, etc. One day, if you ever get out of denial, you'll realize that Sony, including every other game company, has made substantial contributions to the industry. Too bad, you can't see past your own system bias to realize this.

I love how you guys just pull these "facts" out of thin air. And just how did you come to the conclusion that if anybody has their online agenda in check, it's Nintendo? Perhaps you failed to read the report on the new Metroid game that Retro Studios is developing. Nintendo, disappointed in Retro's progress with the game, ordered them to put all the rest of the games they were working on into an indefinite "hold" status so that all of their energies could be devoted to the Metroid title. One of the games put on indefinite hold was an online game in which the only thing left to plan was the server work. Of course, this couldn't be done. Why, you ask? Because Nintendo didn't have anything, planned or set up, even remotely close to a network architecture in place. This took place only a few months ago. Also, let us not forget that Nintendo is ALWAYS the last player to a competitive market. They prefer to wait & see what others are doing or have accomplished before they finalize any of their plans & commit to anything. They did it with the SNES & repeated that behavior with the N64.
Also, you have to add in the fact that top Nintendo execs, here & abroad, have expressed doubts about online console gaming being attractive to mainstream gamers. And because Nintendo usually doesn't make a move unless it guarantees them money, the likelihood of them having any online agenda (let alone the actual architecture) in place, seems sketchy at best. If anything, I believe Microsoft may be first to the table. Of course, stranger things have happened. Personally, I don't care whose first, as long as it's in place soon.

How true this is we can rant and rave all we want about which system is better this and that but the truth of the matter is while Nintendo and Sega did pave alot of roads Sony did do its part with changing the way we look at video gaming as well. Although they did take a we dont know video games approach but giving it was there 1st sytem out that can be forgiving but what about the PS2. Why take the approach of you can't programm on our machine but it ccan do 1 zillion pixels a sec bull tht is another story with in it self. But before i get off track son y did do it's part into introducing 3d platform games to consoles and did it rather well well gtg to work now had to fan off few things more on this later HeHe!!

Where are you getting your information? What is this hoopla about Sony taking a "We don't know videogames" approach? You know, I'm really getting tired of people making totally unsubstantiated statements. Even prior to the release of their system, Sony's stance was always that they DID know videogames. This was evident in their "U R NOT READY" campaign. They proved they knew what gamers wanted with 1ST GENERATION hits like Warhawk, Ridge Racer, Wipeout, Twisted Metal, NFL Gameday, etc.
And if you're gonna point the finger at Sony making the PS2 powerful, but hard to program for, I think you need to turn your eye towards Sega & Nintendo first. Have we so quickly forgotten the convoluted architecture of the Sega Saturn? How about the N64? Time & time again, developers complained that both of these systems were very user-unfriendly & were dogs to develop for. Yet the N64 is widely considered to be a success & many people still swear by their Saturn.
I'm really getting tired of people crucifying Sony for their mistakes while willingly ignoring the fact that both Sega & Nintendo have made the same stumbles also. If anything, Sony should be commended. Sega & Nintendo made their system blunders AFTER they were established video game companies, with YEARS of experience under their belt. Sony came out &, on the first try, got things mostly right. Don't get me wrong. I'm not pro-Sony or anything. I recognize the strengths & weaknesses of ALL the videogame companies. I just think it's a little unjust that so many people here are bagging on Sony as if they're some evil corporate entity. Videogames are a business & ALL the game companies can be praised AND chastised over their various steps & mis-steps.

Every normal person who owns a console will DETEST rivals. I say PSO2 will look cool on Gamecube, and anyway, Dreamcast is dying, and so will its games. Maybe we can at least see PSO2 live if it's created for another console, or PC.

[Sune_Walsh]

Nintendo and Sega have always made the best games...and nintendo usually has the edge in hardware.....i mean, come on, how could you argue! This is a match made in heaven! You play Zelda then PSO then Mario then Sonic......do i see a bad part? Heck no. Yuji Naka is a ******* genius and this just proves it.

[Ukyou]

I personally think there was a large number of good games on the Saturn. The ratio's better then PSX's anyways. It seems that you're being the baised one here, trying to protect the Sony instead. Direct insults to another person also fairly immature and shows your ignorance.

[Omega_Apocca]

I take my hat off to Sega and Nintendo for making an alliance, even temporary, to make great games. I have been an avid game ever since my bug brother stuck the nintendo controller in my hands and helped me play the original Zelda... Ever since then I was a Nintendo fanatic(yeah yeah, I know...). But now that everyone and their grandmother are trying to get their grubby hands on the video game profits, I think its getting out of hand. I enjoyed the mudslinging between Sega and Nintendo, I almost found it comical...
But then I heard of a new system coming into the market, made by sony. Then it all began... The sheer chaos of 3 major systems out, then four, then five. I mean cmon people, leave it to the professionals! I do admit that sony made one hell of a 32-bit console, I own one myself... but I am getting sick and tired of all these systems coming out. I know many people will back me up when I say, "thats too much money!!!" I hope that Nintendo and Sega will merge and eliminate the competition, so we can go back to the "old" ways of video gaming... Hehehe... Sega and Nintendo merging... Nintenga..

Right on.
All this flaming about Sony being the evil empire, Nintendo being the devil (or a necessary evil, as some might cast it) is really just small-minded thinking from the various sides on this issue.
I own a decent collection of systems, and I think it's downright stupid to be locked into any particular manufacturer's mold...I love my SNES to death for having had such quality RPGs as FFII, FFIII, Chrono Trigger, Secret of Mana, Super Mario RPG, and Lufia 2. I was originally very anti-Sony, and faithfully went out and bought an N64 instead of a PSX. Then I realized that they weren't putting out any RPGs for the N64 (don't even TALK to me about Quest 64 or Hybrid Heaven). Admittedly, there were SOME good games, but I began to notice that all the games I could get excited about were being produced for the PSX. (I only still have my N64 because I managed to find a copy of Ogre Battle 64). As soon as I had the money, I bought a PSX. I've gotten more money by working this summer, so I upgraded to a PS2, since I could keep my vast library of PlayStation RPGs. Then I bought a Dreamcast because I wanted to get Skies of Arcadia, Record of Lodoss War, Grandia II, and Phantasy Star Online.
When it comes right down to it, you like TYPES of games, not systems. I've simply followed the trail of good RPGs, and, although it's cost me more money, I've been able to play the best the industry has to offer for more than six years.
Oh, yeah; BTW, do you all remember why Squaresoft moved to the PlayStation in the first place? Couple reasons: The first was that the cartridges for the N64 didn't hold as much data as they wanted to be able to work with (PSX allowed them to have multiple discs), and the second (and more important one) was that Nintendo was trying to get them to sign an exclusive agreement where they would be "allowed" to program for the N64 if they agreed not to develop any games for any other companies. Square (rightly) declined the offer and went on to produce games for the PSX. Call Sony what you will, but I LIKE FFVII, FFIX, Chrono Cross, FFTactics, Front Mission 3, Legend of Mana, XenoGears, Parasite Eve (1 and 2), and Vagrant Story (to name a few), not to mention other quality games like Wild Arms, Grandia, Tactics Ogre, Star Ocean: The Second Story, and Legend of Dragoon.
When it comes right down to it, it's the GAMES that matter, not the system. Try to remember that. Will you seriously NOT buy PSO 2 if it's not on ? If you answered "yes", maybe you don't love the game as much as you claim to.
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i agree!!!!pso is an awesome game and if u put such a good game on such a shity system u will have a bad mix and i can't believe sonic team is gonna do that o well when ever it comes out on x-box it will blow it all out and it'll be 2 player so pso on gamecube won't have a chance and i don't think that gamecube will have a chance against the x-box and i think that nintendo will go out of business tryin to compete with the x-box heck even microsoft all gamecube has is everyone games and thas it no one wants to play that god c'mon game cube sux n e wayz

omg dude dreamcast is good but it isnt' over the x-box come on everyone want's the newest stuff cause it has the best stuff right well if u compare the x-box to the dreamcast then dreamcast gets blown out and yes ps2 fuckin sux it shouldn't even be out but ps3 will be better than x-box cause that is all sony is workin on right now nothin else i don't know if it will be better but most likely it will we'll just find out for ourselves eah.

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well by now we all know xbox gamecube and pc versions either exist are being worked on right now.
the PC one sounding like slightly better then the DC verison.
the GC having better graphics then from DC or PC, with extra things added to it.
Personally I love the Phantasy star serries to much to get picky aobut which port sucks or wahtever. JUST DROP IT! Don't say no becuase of some past hatred, open you mind and read news about it and look at the pictures ect. Not like bashing it outlod does very much good. I have better things to do then to fight over these "evil" companies. Like playing a video game instead :)
Yes nintnedo and Sega did start out as gaming company's(nintendo made card games i think i forget what sega did originally). so maybe they are more experinced in making games. But then again keeping close minded like this and who knows phantasy star might never have been created much less PSO. Diversity offers mroe choices and premotes mroe creative products.
besides what if it is a evil company if the game looks fun who cares. just like everything else in life if you like it ingore all the bad it's done.
'nuff said

what the heck is wrong with putting pso on the gamecube anyway its not like there going to let the gc owners play with the dc owners, theyll develope a completly new online system for the gamecube (just to be fair to the gamcube owners, the people with dc have had alot more time to build up there characters and will make it harder for the gc owners to compete, also the new characters on the gc version will make it imposible for the two systems to be compatible, what will be compatible with eachother will be the xbox version and the pc version all coming out the same time and haveing all the same new features) so why put down the gc version before its made i mean all it can do is make it a little better having such great graphics.

wont happen man sorry the new features on the game cube prohibit interacting with eachother

good for you, you know what gaming is all about
WHO cares what system its on!

"please boy!" DREAMCAST VERY BAD!! I mean the worst of all!! lagged and freezed all the time!!! your looking at the rookies onliners modem in your Dreamcast! but the dreamcast modem online is just the begining for them to go online once on this console but GC is some shit!! "YOU'll NEVER SEE WHAT GC CAN DO ON THE ONLINE YET!!" GC and plus XBOX are the most "BEST CONSOLES EVER TILL RIGHT NOW BOY!!!" SAY NO MORE CAUSE ITS OVER FOR DREAMCAST!!
P.S R.I.P for the Dreamcast! "HEEHEEHEE"

NINTENDO ROCKS!!! all you people hatin what NINTENDO IS GOIN TO GET!!
A ONLINE of the Phantasy Star Online 2 or 1 but don't HATE! if you can't heck into the GAME!! and try to KILL all of your enemys!! with RESTA I guest or FSOD IF YOU TRY TO BE A GOD THE GOD WILL TURN ON YOU!!! AS BY YOUR SELF!!!

I think Sega should just stick to its own company and not be able to give it to another company because it was Sega's Game, and NOT a Gamecube game!!!!!!