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Goukezitsu
Dec 17, 2019, 10:43 PM
Most of em here:

http://imgbox.com/g/BE6oqoFfgO

The full set here:
https://mega.nz/#!2tlDQITB!KnN5_u5aoFjLt3eAg6XS8snPEKVSkagT_GnJAzl QWC8

There is a QR code for some event, but the page isnt up yet. File is named "ui_npc_event_qrcode". Rest of the stuff looks like what you would expect. I haven't checked out the small icons too much so there could be something in there.

Kondibon
Dec 17, 2019, 11:24 PM
Thank you for this. It's a shame there's no "time" skill for Etoile.

ArcaneTechs
Dec 17, 2019, 11:31 PM
well the Liberate units are basically glorified Orgei unit; 75 atk, 60hp, 15pp w/e the defenses are, was hoping the units would retain its 180hp Novel had or maybe at least 100Hp


S5 Pots (2% power for each presumably)

Sword: Akatsuki
Lances: Quelle Glitter
Partisan: RA Stinger
Saber: Lug Sarola
Twin Dagger: Bran Absolute* (from what I've heard via rumors, need verification)
Knuckles: Gear Experience
Gunslash: 20% Crit Rate, 2% Crit Dmg, 1% of dmg restores HP (up to 30)
Rifle: Exium Bunker (with End Attract Instead)
Launcher: Exium Bunker
Twinguns: Dual Bird
Rod: Quelle Neigea
Talis: Motav Grimoire
Wand: Lavis Cannon(wave at 3rd hit only, no atk speed)
Katana: Rengoku Guren
Bow: Radius Arca
Dual Blades: Jupiter Tullus
Boots: Gilles Weihen

Kondibon
Dec 18, 2019, 12:08 AM
Yeah, I was really hoping Liberate units would stay hp/def focused. I'll probably use them anyway, since it seems like we'll get a way to turn them back later, so if new arm and leg units drop I can just use those.

ArcaneTechs
Dec 18, 2019, 12:43 AM
updated S5 list

Suirano
Dec 18, 2019, 02:44 AM
I am trying to remember how good Gilles Weihen was. I have been using Lightstream JBs for this time and have debated on making Liberate JBs since I mostly run T atk but the DBs are nice too so its a tough call.

Shear
Dec 18, 2019, 03:20 AM
So the Dual Blades get the Jupiter Tullus Potential as S5 as I expected ... that's actually pretty damn good :D
I'm kinda suprised about the Liberate Units, they pretty much went from heavily Defensive Units to the complete opposite direction (Unless they keep the High Def of course). The ATK is very nice though.

Reilet
Dec 18, 2019, 03:30 AM
So the Dual Blades get the Jupiter Tullus Potential as S5 as I expected ... that's actually pretty damn good :D
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That's actually damn disgusting. It literally means NOTHING will top Liberate DBs for a LONG time.

Shear
Dec 18, 2019, 03:38 AM
Honestly? I think that's the intend. You need a rather incredible amount of stuff for them and the Upgrade Stone is rather rare especially if you miss the New Years one. I think they obviously are intended to be the Absolute Top Weapons you can currently have and not just a upgrade to be replaced in two months.
Granted the JT Potential was the reason it was the Dark Ruler of DB's for ages so I can understand where you are coming from ... I wonder how high the Multplicator for the Extra Attacks is for the S-Abilities

Reilet
Dec 18, 2019, 03:40 AM
You don't understand. Every other weapon had a side grade or an eventual better weapon. DB Liberate is literally Niren Orochi and Jupiter Tullus all over again. It's more than likely that will be the absolute best weapon until the very end of 15* life.

Shear
Dec 18, 2019, 03:43 AM
No I understand and I think that's the point of them really. They are supposed to be the absolute Top Weapon you can get in the 15* Range.
To be frank I expect 16* soon considering I have like 17 15* Weapons in my TrashpileStorage thanks to recent events. unlike the beginning of the Year where my Atlas Ex was the Holy Grail for me. And I don't even play that much.

Reilet
Dec 18, 2019, 04:01 AM
If you want to rationalize DB liberate's absurd power, then why isn't any other weapon catergoy bar Bow nearly as strong then?

Shear
Dec 18, 2019, 04:05 AM
Oh, I think I did misunderstand after all, sorry. I thought you compared to other DB's you meant compared to other weapons. And I agree that the JT Ability is one of the strongest if not the strongest but remember one thing.
This is an S-Ability
You can slap it on ALL the Weapons with S5 Slot :D
Twin Machine Guns with extra Magic Blades on PA :D

:EDIT: ... scratch that, the S5 Abilities seem to have a clause that you can only use them on the same weapon type, I'm sad now.

GHNeko
Dec 18, 2019, 04:30 AM
You don't understand. Every other weapon had a side grade or an eventual better weapon. DB Liberate is literally Niren Orochi and Jupiter Tullus all over again. It's more than likely that will be the absolute best weapon until the very end of 15* life.

gotta compensate for the shitty stances and problematic tree skills. :wacko:

Shear
Dec 18, 2019, 09:40 AM
well the Liberate units are basically glorified Orgei unit; 75 atk, 60hp, 15pp w/e the defenses are, was hoping the units would retain its 180hp Novel had or maybe at least 100Hp

I just checked and the Units start with 275 Defense, going by the others this makes them weaker defense wise than Schwelle so it seems we trade survivability for Power. Granted the Defense is still considerable higher than than any 12* and only below Novel and Schwelle. Other 13* Units only surpass it in a single stat at best.
Still for a Unit we update this seems ... "strange?" While the Liberate Weapon is a straight update the Unit has this strange system.

Anduril
Dec 18, 2019, 10:18 AM
So they did pull a Zenesis/Qliphad with these units, like I was thinking they might.

silo1991
Dec 18, 2019, 10:23 AM
So they did pull a Zenesis/Qliphad with these units, like I was thinking they might.

sumarising : novel units have more HP while liberate units have more PP/mana

its just a matter of preference like you said

Shear
Dec 18, 2019, 11:01 AM
sumarising : novel units have more HP while liberate units have more PP/mana

its just a matter of preference like you said

They also have +35 more ATK so nearly double the amount. Frankly they ARE damn good but it still surprised me as like I mentioned the Liberate Weapons are a upgrade while the Units instead are a Sidegrade.

XrosBlader821
Dec 18, 2019, 07:30 PM
You don't understand. Every other weapon had a side grade or an eventual better weapon. DB Liberate is literally Niren Orochi and Jupiter Tullus all over again. It's more than likely that will be the absolute best weapon until the very end of 15* life.

I don't mind that. I really don't need to upgrade my weapons every 2~3 months because something new came out. If there is a unique weapon with a unique pot i might check it out but chasing after that 1% damage increase gets tiresome.

LordKaiser
Jan 12, 2020, 05:10 PM
Too bad that Arks-Visiphone people don't like JPEG or else I could upload some of these over there...