NGS and PSO2 truly begin on PS4 english August 31 2022

[Saner]

the wait is worth it

https://twinfinite.net/2022/07/phantasy-star-online-2-new-genesis-ps4-release/

https://www.cbr.com/pso2-new-genesis-content-roadmap-sega/

[Bojji]

Yay we will surely go to 5000 players, to come back to 3000 :lol:

[Saner]

Yay we will surely go to 5000 players, to come back to 3000 :lol:

I would rather be optimistic. xD PS4 has sold over 116,000,000 units worldwide, even among asian countries there are regions of players that know english but don't know japanese. combined with the fact that it will be free to play on PS4, not requiring PS Plus subscription like Fortnite doesn't require it, and on top of Xbox and PC crossplay confirmed, think the ships may get overloaded. Devs tend to underestimate initial numbers.

If even FFXIV can have so many players playing it despite the subscription fee, then PSO2 not requiring fee at all can bring in way more players. Plus there are also people seeking a quality social space on PS4 in english. PSO2 on PS4 english can bring in and retain more players than expected. this isn't something meh like The Elder Scrolls Online, and FFXIV is old news to PS4 players and many are fed up paying the fee and others want a brand new multiplayer rpg to play. With almost a decade worth of content, QoL, updates and story expansions, PSO2 can really have the most fans on PS4 with this localized debut.

This isn't some game of Pong. this is PSO2. and while people debate whether NGS is good or not, its still worth exploring for a while even if people go back to PSO2, NGS still has stuff worth checking out. so PS4 english communities really get a better deal than if they started when it first released. So its really worth the wait for true fans and people that live in the present and have yet to experience it all.

It really is illogical some people spamming "it's too late", it seems they really don't care for this series as much as others do and even those that don't know how valuable PSO2 is to them until they start playing it. This PSO2 is gonna brighten the days for a lot of people out there that purely play on PS4 in english, as well as those that have a region compatible account to play with english players cause english is not limited to western countries, and PS4 is region free.

So could say PSO2 could be a surprise success. It would be absolutely insane if it tanks. If even Valkyria Chronicles could wow Sega's expectations on PC, PSO2 should really break record numbers with its debut in english on PS4, and I think PS5 can play it too since its backwards compatible. so thats even more players.

really theres no other rival in the market with as much replay value and play incentives like PSO2 and what it can do for english PS4 region players from a social standpoint also. There are rare games with social spaces like Xenoverse 2, but PSO2 is in a league of its own on that and more (plus has free chat, whereas bandai namco games only allow preset messages).

various games are releasing in the coming months, but they are mostly single player games that are merely movie rentals, whereas PSO2 is more like a way of life. and it actually has beautiful artstyle and charismatic character designs, unlike Starfield.

[ArcaneTechs]

finally, all 10 PS4/5 players who have been waiting can play PSO2 & NGS after so many years and then complain about every little thing :)

[Saner]

finally, all 10 PS4/5 players who have been waiting can play PSO2 & NGS after so many years and then complain about every little thing :)

Not sure if that is sarcasm or half serious. though most people actually just play the game and enjoy it while the complainers are in the minority.
And PS4 and PS5 have way more PSO fans than Xbox and possibly PC considering PSO started as a console game. Many PS4 and PS5 players played PSO on Dreamcast, episode 1 and 2 on gamecube, Phantasy Star Universe on PS3 or Xbox360, and maybe visited PSO2 on PS4 Japan account but left cause the language barrier just makes it too uncomfortable to play effeciently and get the most out of it (hence a major reason why its essential for foreign games to be translated/localized so they are fully understandable.)

And then there's the newcomers mainstream masses on PS4 that haven't played a Phantasy Star before, but will cause PSO2 and NGS will be totally free to play and not require PS Plus at all just like Fornite and other free to play games, they get much more numbers cause people dont have to pay a penny to jump right in. Sega and Sony are not investing in this if they didnt do the math. Sega made record numbers with the localization and ports of PSO2 on Xbox One and PC, so PS4 has another giant goldmine waiting for them too.

[Tymek]

finally, all 10 PS4/5 players who have been waiting can play PSO2 & NGS after so many years and then complain about every little thing :)

what, is this not what you wanted?

[SteveCZ]

I like your optimism but I'd love to see how it goes 2-3 months after the platform release. NA community seems to be rather positive over this game compare to the english community in JP version and likely the JP community itself. Also, I saw around 2.3% player increase on Steam over Retem vs Kvaris region in the NA version, at least according to the active player count there. So maybe for NA version this PS4 might be a good thing, but we'll see.

[ArcaneTechs]

Not sure if that is sarcasm or half serious. though most people actually just play the game and enjoy it while the complainers are in the minority.
And PS4 and PS5 have way more PSO fans than Xbox and possibly PC considering PSO started as a console game. Many PS4 and PS5 players played PSO on Dreamcast, episode 1 and 2 on gamecube, Phantasy Star Universe on PS3 or Xbox360, and maybe visited PSO2 on PS4 Japan account but left cause the language barrier just makes it too uncomfortable to play effeciently and get the most out of it (hence a major reason why its essential for foreign games to be translated/localized so they are fully understandable.)


Sony fans are not the biggest fans of Phantasy Star, idk where you got this from but if thats what you personally think then so be it. As for those who went through the trouble of playing the JP version on their PS4, they're very few and far between and last I remembered, most of them gave up due to not being able to read JP and well, at the time it was basically a huge cope for a Global release which finally happened so naturally they'd hop to those available platforms.

PSO fans played on their preferred platform, either DC, Xbox, GC or PC. PSU fans had PS2+PC/360 as their choice and over time the PS2+PC community dwindled and those 2 had to be shutdown with only the Xbox version remaining here in the West. Phantasy Star Universe was never released for the PS3 in the West or Japan. Most people know the PSO2 history of platform releases so I'm going to go over this.

TLDR: Sony fans are not the biggest Phantasy Star fan base in existence, doesn't matter if one console has sold more than the other because it does not mean every single Playstation or Xbox owner cares to play the game let alone an actual fan.


what, is this not what you wanted?

i guess, it'll just be really nice to see people stop complaining about this now.


I like your optimism but I'd love to see how it goes 2-3 months after the platform release. NA community seems to be rather positive over this game compare to the english community in JP version and likely the JP community itself. Also, I saw around 2.3% player increase on Steam over Retem vs Kvaris region in the NA version, at least according to the active player count there. So maybe for NA version this PS4 might be a good thing, but we'll see.

They're more positive because they've been playing the game for a couple of years compared everyone else who's been playing since 2012 or pre-Global release. It's still an all new experience for them and they haven't gotten a full taste of how Sega does content up until NGS. I just wish most Global players would stop over glorifying the small updates as though they were the best things to happen because a drop of content finally got added to the game.

[Saner]

The bottom line is that PSO2 is one of the greatest games ever, and will be free to play on english PS4 PSN, which has over a hundred million users.
Free game, a quality game, it doesn't matter how old a game is. a game won't register on a platform/region customers minds until its literally available on their store and region to play in language they understand.

So PSO2 counts as a new quality game, a new quality experience for soloers and multiplayer people.
a lot of people seek social and cooperative games, which are in more demand because the market has too many competitive games.

PSO2 is easy to pick up and play, it has its complexities, but PSO2 doubles as a social space. See how Xenoverse 2 is still highly populated despite being a small and very basic version of what the PSO series pioneered on console. PSO2 is in a position this summer to become mainstream on english PS4.

Like Fortnite battle royale, it does not require PS Plus to play, which means literally every PS4 player can access it and play it! no strings attached.

it has character creation, it has fashion incentives, it has co-op, its family friendly, it still looks and plays great. it has almost a decade worth of content, so people won't run out of new things to do unlike how PSU launched its online in very small doses, and PSO which only had like 4 types of dungeons.

its fast paced and fluid, refining the PSO formula that makes the series unrivaled in a lot of aspects, it even adopts some breakthroughs PSU introduced like apartments. PSO2 is more than a game , its a way of life, and PS4 english communities would benefit from learning this.

and even between all the big games releasing in the coming months, PSO2 will still be there, and a lot of mainstreamers really seek something like PSO2 where they get red carpet treatment of features and social enviornment that makes the experience more lively, unpredictable and immersive.
really there is no other game that can substitute PSO2. and also consider there are people that haven't played a PSO before, so playing PSO2 english on ps4 to them will feel like how we played PSO first time on Dreamcast, though with a lot of QoL and improvements.

it would be absolutely absurd if PS4 english regions sleep on this and overlook it. it is only logical the mainstream would become obsessed with PSO2. there is definitely a fanbase for it on PS4 english, most just don't know they want it until they discover and explore PSO2.
there is no other F2P game as good on consoles. and its formula is more entertaining and welcoming than conventional mmorpgs. even if the learning curve/difficulty curve becomes overwhelming for them, they could stay for the community, play casually and have a great time.

[RuskoStar]

Hey everyone.
I am Super stoked to be finally able to play Phantasy star online 2 on my Playstation since it releases on 31st August 2022.
I have waited 10 years to finally say this.
I really want to connect to other Playstation People and especially People that want to play pso2 classic from the start or want to help a new comer. Since we playstation people never had the chance.
Let us create a community and a group on PSN so we can get hyped up and excited to finally play the game soon.
If you know somebody that is gonna play the PlayStation version please let them know too. 💕

[Saner]

Hey everyone.
I am Super stoked to be finally able to play Phantasy star online 2 on my Playstation since it releases on 31st August 2022.
I have waited 10 years to finally say this.
I really want to connect to other Playstation People and especially People that want to play pso2 classic from the start or want to help a new comer. Since we playstation people never had the chance.
Let us create a community and a group on PSN so we can get hyped up and excited to finally play the game soon.
If you know somebody that is gonna play the PlayStation version please let them know too. 💕

I seen that TERA is over in the west, including PS4, that could bring in even more players to move to PSO2 english on PS4! I'll check what will be the go to ships for PS4 english communities, then go from there to add friends.

[RuskoStar]

Oh you right Tera os done too... Even more for us. God i am excited for this game. Add me on playstation: RuskoStar

[Saner]

Oh you right Tera os done too... Even more for us. God i am excited for this game. Add me on playstation: RuskoStar

PSO2 has an ingame friends list system does it? we could use that. I don't wanna be chatting about it on PSN for two months that would make the wait longer lol. on this site when it releases, we can make a PS4 english community topic and agree on a ship to meet at and add friends list there after we determine what the mainstream crowd will pick cause its good to join a lively ship.

[Shinzakura]

Anyone else kinda finding it hilarious that the "PS twins" are bookending? PSO2 was essentially at the beginning of the PS4's life. And now, a decade later, they're finally releasing it in English...just as the PS4 is on its deathbed.

[Saner]

Anyone else kinda finding it hilarious that the "PS twins" are bookending? PSO2 was essentially at the beginning of the PS4's life. And now, a decade later, they're finally releasing it in English...just as the PS4 is on its deathbed.

a good whopper is still a good sandwich :burger:

perhaps Sega planned it like that or it just so happened to be the plan after Microsoft helped them with the costs to bring it over to Xbox and PC in english, and so Sega found that opportunity to save the english PS4 version for last. it is a clever strategy to rekindle PSO2 usage longer. maybe they did plan to eventually localize it, but Microsoft actually helped Sega test the waters on Xbox and PC, and with the double digit numbers they made from those versions in just a few months, totally convinced them there is lots of money waiting on english PS4 (Sega sometimes wanders into common sense by accident, but has to be held by the hand sometimes.)

Sony said PS4 is still being supported for 3 years, and even now PS3 games are still playable online, so newcomers and veterans have time to make the most of PSO2 with the PS4 english community beginning a new generation of fans and active playerbase. :burger:

even after Sony drops support, think PSN would still be active on PS4, and then there's PS5 which is backwards compatible, haven't read much on PS5 details, but PS5 could have PSO2 still playable even if PS4 has PSN dropped, but it is rolling in money, so like PS3, Sony would still keep it on.

there are millions of PS4 gamers that will stick with PS4 even after PS5 starts getting significant pricedrops. if PSO2 fans on PS4 english want to continue playing PSO2 and if PS4 psn is dropped, they would move to PS5 is they have to, but as long as PSN is up on PS4, the most dedicated fans would still play it on PS4 english. there's also the question how long Sega would support the servers, but look how old DC Universe Online is, and PSO2 is way more popular and appealing.

So yea this is still great timing than if PSO2 started internationally. it still counts as brand new to customers even to veterans that played a little of the Japanese version and stopped after a few missions. and saves people hundreds of dollars. some moved to PC and XBox One to play it first time in english, but everyone else won't play PSO2 until August 31, 2022. so there are waves of newcomers and PSO veterans that been waiting for official PS4 localization. So I would say the timing is right and first impressions will be much better than when PSO2 started out.

[Saner]

useful sources of updates
https://pso2.com/players/news/

https://twitter.com/play_pso2

[Terrence]

Not sure if that is sarcasm or half serious. though most people actually just play the game and enjoy it while the complainers are in the minority.
First, you're lying. See the astronomically low number of players then you'll be able to cry about the fact you strictly understand nothing. Second, most of players who still connect keep coming because they enjoy playing the pitiful Slut Waifu Simulator this game has become. Third, people have as much the right to despise NGS that you have the right to like it. So, take your moral lessons and stick them in your @$$.

[ArcaneTechs]

I will, to this day, never believe a single person in this thread (or anywhere else on this planet) that waited purely for a PS4/5 release without actually attempting to do the PC version at minimum since 2012 or even Global's release. Thats plenty and ample amount of time for anyone to get a job, earn money & buy a new PC/parts to make playing PSO2 a reality for you. You would have to be incredibly unwilling or flat out lazy to bother trying any alternatives outside sitting and waiting for the Playstation version to happen for PSO2.

and while I wouldn't have said word for word with what Terrence said, to a degree I agree with him and as for Saner, it feels they're too misguided or very likely and very ill informed about whats actually been going on with the game for the past 10yrs much less NGS's first year.

I'm not going to write out an essay about the state of the game, if you think the majority of the current playerbase plays because their so "happy" then you are severely mistaken because complainers aren't are minority either and there are many factors that go into this, NEGATIVE ones for why people feel the way they do and the biggest one's atm is: lack of content and handling of the game since it's release and dare I say the man in charge (HMZK) of NGS right now was the one who almost killed PSO2 back during Ep 5.

looking forward to you getting caught up in game and getting to realize how bleak this game is, seasonals and recycled content brought back from base is not remotely fun or engaging and my view of "fun" isn't subjective either because no one in their right mind thinks adding a Tower Defense Quest to each region is super amazing considering we had like idk 10 Tower Defense quests & variations back in base PSO2. You on the other hand haven't experienced any of this, so naturally you're going to think all this is amazing and enjoyable which is not a bad thing at all but you need to understand the current situation of the game and how's going or I guess stay ignorant to it all. Up to you, don't care, enjoy PSO2

[Saner]

First, you're lying. See the astronomically low number of players then you'll be able to cry about the fact you strictly understand nothing. Second, most of players who still connect keep coming because they enjoy playing the pitiful Slut Waifu Simulator this game has become. Third, people have as much the right to despise NGS that you have the right to like it. So, take your moral lessons and stick them in your @$$.

You have a very corrupt mind. There is no reasoning with evil people filled with so much bigotry and hatred that they can't even comment without resorting to rude insults and labeling female characters as sluts or waifus (which is really what sexists, prudes and misogynists call them in derogatory fashion). Its a wonder why you would even visit a PSO2/NGS related topic in the first place. Is this the limit of your purpose? Spreading negativity, pessimism and hate?


I will, to this day, never believe a single person in this thread (or anywhere else on this planet) that waited purely for a PS4/5 release without actually attempting to do the PC version at minimum since 2012 or even Global's release. Thats plenty and ample amount of time for anyone to get a job, earn money & buy a new PC/parts to make playing PSO2 a reality for you. You would have to be incredibly unwilling or flat out lazy to bother trying any alternatives outside sitting and waiting for the Playstation version to happen for PSO2.

and while I wouldn't have said word for word with what Terrence said, to a degree I agree with him and as for Saner, it feels they're too misguided or very likely and very ill informed about whats actually been going on with the game for the past 10yrs much less NGS's first year.

I'm not going to write out an essay about the state of the game, if you think the majority of the current playerbase plays because their so "happy" then you are severely mistaken because complainers aren't are minority either and there are many factors that go into this, NEGATIVE ones for why people feel the way they do and the biggest one's atm is: lack of content and handling of the game since it's release and dare I say the man in charge (HMZK) of NGS right now was the one who almost killed PSO2 back during Ep 5.

looking forward to you getting caught up in game and getting to realize how bleak this game is, seasonals and recycled content brought back from base is not remotely fun or engaging and my view of "fun" isn't subjective either because no one in their right mind thinks adding a Tower Defense Quest to each region is super amazing considering we had like idk 10 Tower Defense quests & variations back in base PSO2. You on the other hand haven't experienced any of this, so naturally you're going to think all this is amazing and enjoyable which is not a bad thing at all but you need to understand the current situation of the game and how's going or I guess stay ignorant to it all. Up to you, don't care, enjoy PSO2

Your first mistake is not thinking outside your bubble to see the reality of the industry is that most people will stick with the platform they prefer. You will not convince millions of PS4 players to game on PC nor Xbox (and vice versa), even if it's a game they been waiting 10 years for a localization confirmation. PSO2 is coming to PS4 in english. It is a fact. We patient PSO fans won, while you are stuck in your own delusion think everyone's impressions of PSO2 will be the same as yours.

Your second mistake is having the attitude that those that think differently from you are no smarter. Your pessimistic views cloud your judgement of PSO2 and you sound like an elitist that thinks they know better when you are mistakening your opinions for facts. You don't decide that is right or wrong or what is good or bad about PSO2. that is for each individual to decide. not everyone are ingrates, and clearly PSO2 is much better managed than how Phantasy Star Universe's online turned out. So clearly, you been spoiled by PSO2 and do not appreciate it like others would.

you may call PS4/console gamers lazy, but hundreds of millions of console gamers worldwide through the history of gaming, find console gaming more convenient than PC gaming. for millions of people, PC gaming is more trouble and expensive than its worth. PSO2 was originally devloped and optimized for PS4. whereas on PC, depending on specs and other factors, PSO2 could look and run worse than on PS4. also security is lower on PC. So get off your high horse. if anyone is misguided, its you negative nancies that take things for granted. https://www.escapistmagazine.com/when-pc-gaming-is-more-trouble-than-its-worth/

[ArcaneTechs]

Your first mistake is not thinking outside your bubble to see the reality of the industry is that most people will stick with the platform they prefer. You will not convince millions of PS4 players to game on PC nor Xbox (and vice versa), even if it's a game they been waiting 10 years for a localization confirmation. PSO2 is coming to PS4 in english. It is a fact. We patient PSO fans won, while you are stuck in your own delusion think everyone's impressions of PSO2 will be the same as yours.

i dont care how hard of a Sony fan you are anyone is, my main point is anyone whoever wanted to play PSO2 since it's release would go through the actual effort to do so. I'm not sure why you don't understand this, I absolutely not do not care that you and a handful of others decided to not do anything but go about your life until this point. It's only a victory for yourself, definitely not over me because all the people I know who wanted to play are already playing before this announcement happened.


Your second mistake is having the attitude that those that think differently from you are no smarter. Your pessimistic views cloud your judgement of PSO2 and you sound like an elitist that thinks they know better when you are mistakening your opinions for facts. You don't decide that is right or wrong or what is good or bad about PSO2. that is for each individual to decide. not everyone are ingrates, and clearly PSO2 is much better managed than how Phantasy Star Universe's online turned out. So clearly, you been spoiled by PSO2 and do not appreciate it like others would.

I've played everygame, I learn it's positive and negatives but I don't live in sheer ignorance to think that PSU of all games is perfect (because it's not) and for something of a frankenstein PSO2 ended up becoming because of Directors changing every episode and content never being fully fleshed out or done or flat out cut because of mistakes the developers made over time. I've been spoiled by nothing, I choose not to live in ignorance like others because this encourages Sega to continue making bad decisions for the game over time but thanks to people like you, it'll continue to go the way it is.


you may call PS4/console gamers lazy, but hundreds of millions of console gamers worldwide through the history of gaming, find console gaming more convenient than PC gaming. for millions of people, PC gaming is more trouble and expensive than its worth.

I'm calling people who refused to attempt actually play the game lazy, the ones who sat around and got lucky that Sega decided to finally push the PS4 version out to the West instead of locking it only to JP players (which again, isn't a bad thing for Sega to do).


PSO2 was originally devloped and optimized for PS4. whereas on PC, depending on specs and other factors, PSO2 could look and run worse than on PS4. also security is lower on PC.

Phantasy Star Online 2 - Released July 4th, 2012
Playstation 4 Home Console - Released November 15th, 2013

Please do some basic research, not only was PSO2 NOT developed & optimized for the PS4, the PS4 wasn't even released until over a year after it was out on PC. Your console is not virus proof or hack proof, you can run into the same exact issues as a PC not to mention a Video Game Console is literally a PC.


So get off your high horse. if anyone is misguided, its you negative nancies that take things for granted. https://www.escapistmagazine.com/when-pc-gaming-is-more-trouble-than-its-worth/

Genuinely people who don't want to learn basics about PC parts or who are very misinformed are the ones who avoid building PC's. You can choose to blame the current prices which to an extent is true, it's very pricey but we're talking about years prior to the current price hike on builds which again, falls under those who cared enough to really want to play the game could have done so.

[Saner]

Arcane you don't realize how misguided you are thinking towards console gamers as a whole, and also ignorant to assume I'm a Sony fan, when like you I choose the platform that is convenient and best one for me (Sony consoles happen to be preferred because Nintendo keeps failing at providing hardware, 3rd party support, controls and online quality that its competitors do better, and ports on nintendo platforms are always a downgrade compared to other consoles, nintendo misses out on so many games that require better online and hardware. While Xbox misses out on most eastern games and their populations that prefer things that aren't western games are in the minority, so Sony is really the only platform brand that is the most well rounded in the industry since PS1. ) Unlike you, I don't look at things as just black and white. Unlike you, I understand the pros and cons of PC to the level that PC is not worth the trouble and expenses, and PC gaming has always been more hurdles, troubleshooting and trouble than its worth, otherwise there would be few console gamers and more PC gamers. and PC industry is not as good as it once was when it had physical releases. meanwhile at least consoles still get physical editions for various games, whiel PC is almost entirely digital only. as a whole, console gaming is more advantageous while PC market is corrupted and funneled through things like Steam, costing so many jobs that used to manufacture, distribute and sell physical editions of PC games. Also piracy on PC is still insane. which is why things like DRM/denuvo happened. PC communities are filled with so much parasites and cheapskates and play the victim, while bashing games handed out for free with microtransactions to help profit instead of loss money and get nothing in return.

Also you really underestimate the security difference between console and PC. It's like you are not aware of the countless cheaters and hackers on PC gaming, to the extent even companies like Blizzard been on record in articles of the various cases of cheaters found on PC, and hundreds of thousands of cheaters been banned from PC games compared to console games (just compare Overwatch cheater numbers on the PC side). Generally console gamers really are only at risk with their account is if they use a PC to access an account. I had friend who had their FFXI account and they played on PC and access their account through PC, meanwhile my PS2 friends never had hacks or stolen account issues playing console version of games. it can happen, but its unlikely compared to the amount of PC cases, which is why many times when company site pages talk about PC versions of games, they have guides to prevent account theft and things that commonly happen on the PC side of things. As long as console gamers just use their console to access their game and log in, they are more secure than using a PC, even with security software.

I was mistaken about which version came first on PC vs PS4, but having played PSO Japanese version for a while until I had enough of the language barrier, I found PSO2 is very well optimized on PS4, it has to be considering how long PSO2 been successful, supported and Sega's #1 online game. can't expect flawless online but its definitely next to flawless compared to games like Onigiri and even the choppy Black Desert (though Black Desert requires better hardware than ps4 to run optimally, so its really no one's fault. regardless of performance, Black Desert actually still has a dedicated playerbase on PS4 despite the lower framerate and buy to play model)

So where were we? Oh yes, basically every post you 'contribute' to this topic, you and that other guy are just raining on the parade.

"oh, people that really wanted to play PSO2 should of gotten a PC/Xbox to play it, otherwise they are not a true fan".

well guess what, most people are not going to buy another platform for one game. and it's not like we PSO DC and PSU veterans been sitting on our hands, over the years we been playing numerous games. its great PSO2 english is happening on PS4, and I would not really call it a wait since there wasnt expectations Sega would do the right thing, but ever since Microsoft chipped in to make Xbox port and localization happen, that did increase the chances of PSO2 localization happening on PS4 on time for its 10th anniversary year. So I would say it is great timing cause I experienced and learned great things from other games along the way, so now that I completed a backlog of games, can focus on PSO2 with a fresh community. There are games that took much longer to get ports and localizations. and they still feel like new to newcomers and those that only tasted a bit of it.

"PSO2 is bad and will only hold interest for a few days"

I see that in certain communities, but the reality is some PSO2 veterans are just so jaded, bitter and become toxic to really see the positives. they dont realize how cancerous their negative comments and pessimistic views are of the 'current stage of the game'.

Also you are making a mistake like other games communities been doing like "if I discourage people from supporting and playing this game, that would hurt the game's reception and therefore convince Sega to do better and right the wrongs." That mentality only leads to ruin and destruction of a brand.
PSO2 NGS doing very well on PS4 english would be better than it flopping. a failed product benefits no one. Look at how complaints towards H1Z1 divided Daybreak to the point of making changes and that upset everyone else that felt the game was fine, and so the game dropped in popularity and usage despite being the game that put battle royale on the mainstream map. the very negative and whiny side of the community ruined it for everyone else.

your solution is destructive and your attitude is what even an anti-fan would do. there's already haters of anything asian developed that want games like these to flop, and you are indirectly supporting that destructive movement.

you think you are not ignorant, but it really sounds like you still don't understand how SEGA works. SEGA has always been stubborn and prefers to do things their own way, sink or swim. notice they still don't get Sonic games right and don't understand how to please everyone without upsetting anyone. It's fortunate that PSO2 actually turned out much better than PSU and much more advanced with things that would make classic PSO proud. it has its faults, but it seems like you have trouble finding enjoyment in anything and only focus on the bad.

It makes one wonder why you would even participate in a PSO2/NGS topic in the first place cause clearly it is not as good or designed as you expect them to be. so basically its really not for you.

TL/DR: its you guys that came here with such hostility, elitism and pushing negative viewpoints, you haters could just as well be mistaken for anti-fans that pretend to be PSO series fans. its bad enough old school PSO purists think anything that isn't classic PSO is bad. The lack of appreciation for PSO2 is clear among you.

[Ranmaru]

PSO2 is easy to pick up and play, it has its complexities, but PSO2 doubles as a social space. See how Xenoverse 2 is still highly populated despite being a small and very basic version of what the PSO series pioneered on console. PSO2 is in a position this summer to become mainstream on english PS4.

Like Fortnite battle royale, it does not require PS Plus to play, which means literally every PS4 player can access it and play it! no strings attached.

it has almost a decade worth of content, so people won't run out of new things to do

It doesn't change what PSO2 has become. It simply gives it another opportunity to be revealed to PS4 users that haven't already tried it.

Social spaces: NGS took that out. No alliance hall, no rooms. That was my favorite aspect of premium. Stupid decision if you ask me.

PSO2 has always been free though.

Decade worth of content: This is true. Yet that's for PSO2 base, which is put in the background. NGS has barely any content but it will get some on August 3, which I will actually try out. However, this was the same thing with PSO2's launch, yet they are starting over.

[Ranmaru]

TL/DR: its you guys that came here with such hostility, elitism and pushing negative viewpoints, you haters could just as well be mistaken for anti-fans that pretend to be PSO series fans. its bad enough old school PSO purists think anything that isn't classic PSO is bad. The lack of appreciation for PSO2 is clear among you.

I agree with Arcane. I think you are putting too much blind faith into this, however I also think it's wrong of you to call anyone who has a lack of enthusiasm as a hater. I think, you are being illogical about this. The main point is the lack of content is a legitimate concern. However, I am glad you are optimistic and look forward to it. Heck if you wanted to play Base PSO2 I would be down to play with, since I usually just an excuse to play PSO2 base nowadays. I accomplished most of what I wanted to do, and I feel a lack of motivation, and I feel it is due to NGS and people moving on to it and leaving base behind. I *love* base pso2. I did not want NGS. I also think it's important to realize that like Arcane said, people have had 10 years at least to be able to consolidate their thoughts, while newer players had a few years. I do agree that, anyone saying 'haha yea it won't get any players' probably shouldn't waste their energy and let people enjoy it for what it is in the moment. Legitimate criticism is not hating. I think what is important is a balance. I also think it's important to consider that, Sega released Global a year before NGS, which newer players won't realize, is actually *harmful* to them. They will have much less time to enjoy PSO2, to be forced into NGS, which no one asked for. (1 year compared to 10 years) Remember, global was supposed to come out 2013. You can't really blame people for being skeptical or even jaded towards Sega for delaying a launch of a game for 7-8 years. However I do believe there is nothing one can do but let the newer players enjoy themselves while they can on such limited time, but educate them on the history. There shouldn't be any animosity between newer players and older players, Sega has created this divide. It just exists. No one is evil here, we are not to blame, Sega is.

[Saner]

I agree with Arcane. I think you are putting too much blind faith into this, however I also think it's wrong of you to call anyone who has a lack of enthusiasm as a hater. I think, you are being illogical about this. The main point is the lack of content is a legitimate concern. However, I am glad you are optimistic and look forward to it. Heck if you wanted to play Base PSO2 I would be down to play with, since I usually just an excuse to play PSO2 base nowadays. I accomplished most of what I wanted to do, and I feel a lack of motivation, and I feel it is due to NGS and people moving on to it and leaving base behind. I *love* base pso2. I did not want NGS. I also think it's important to realize that like Arcane said, people have had 10 years at least to be able to consolidate their thoughts, while newer players had a few years. I do agree that, anyone saying 'haha yea it won't get any players' probably shouldn't waste their energy and let people enjoy it for what it is in the moment. Legitimate criticism is not hating. I think what is important is a balance. I also think it's important to consider that, Sega released Global a year before NGS, which newer players won't realize, is actually *harmful* to them. They will have much less time to enjoy PSO2, to be forced into NGS, which no one asked for. (1 year compared to 10 years) Remember, global was supposed to come out 2013. You can't really blame people for being skeptical or even jaded towards Sega for delaying a launch of a game for 7-8 years. However I do believe there is nothing one can do but let the newer players enjoy themselves while they can on such limited time, but educate them on the history. There shouldn't be any animosity between newer players and older players, Sega has created this divide. It just exists. No one is evil here, we are not to blame, Sega is.

the thing is, what is trash to someone can be treasure to someone else. those veterans have their opinions but they can't speak on everyone that played it as long or longer and like it more than they do. no company has ever made a flawless videogame, nor flawless ORPG/mmorpg for that matter. critics and ingrates can split hairs and nitpick all they want, but others can enjoy the soup without being "educated of the history" because like those two have showed as example here, their viewpoints are largely negative and bitter.

its kind alike asking a scrooge for advice what they think about a game they no longer care for.

keeping it straightforward, PSO2 and NGS are both coming to PS4 english. whichever players start with first, they can create character in either one and focus on either PSO2 and/or NGS, right? PS4 english regions will rejuvenant player numbers, so that means more PSO2 players for you too. even though Sega is updating NGS and its the successor of PSO2, not everyone has to play it, but in any case, I seen livestreams and channels of people celebrating the 10th anniversary together, its not a tidal wave of players together, but it's not a wonder twins sized party either.

all in all, the PS4 english debut will speak for itself. instead of veterans trying to think for others or try to set an attitude and goggles to look through, let the newcomers evaluate PSO2 and NGS themselves and decide their own viewpoint on things, they would get more enjoyment out of it than listening to people point out all its 'flaws" and whatever's missing.

and wouldnt call the trip from PSO2 to NGS being forced. moving to NGS would be a natural step after completing whatever people can on PSO2, cause NGS has its own new areas, content and qualities that some may like. and they can have character(s) still in PSO2, so there is really no restriction of access between the two games. so instead of bickering what this or this lacks, people can just stick with whichever they like more. but I would say its a waste to play PSO2 but not explore NGS.

also you can say no one is evil here, but veterans can still cause harm in the process of trying to 'inform' people of what they think is 'wrong' with the games (also calling people that want PSO2/NGS but don't buy Xbox/PC "lazy", is rude. we've actually saved hundreds of dollars being patient). blaming Sega isn't changing anything. instead of downplaying the good things and only focusing on the bad, veterans should take care to not rain on the parade cause their bitterness only poisons the atmosphere and whether intentional or not, they risk causing some newcomers to dislike the games without even giving them a chance with a fresh slate of impressions not influenced by other views.

so really, PSO2 and NGS can't afford internal fighting among communities. they are what they are, so people either make use of their good aspects, or go play something else. this upcoming debut of PS4 english localization is for those that are positive about PSO2 and NGS, not those that think they aren't good enough and try to discourage people. And Sega is being super generous offering these games free up front. companies like Blizzard and Square Enix would charge subscription fees (which despite WoW and FFXIV being successful, even many veterans are fed up with paying fees on top of the buy to play expansions and microtransactions, and would rather have a F2P with microtransactions. plus the WoW/FFXIV formula really can't substitute the PSO series formula which is much more inviting and entertaining. so that is some of the reasons why veterans and newcomers will move to games like PSO2/NGS than the biggest mmorpgs out there. )

so its a great priviledge getting them on PS4 in english. PSO2 and NGS are sure to earn more dedicated fans and crossplay will optimize the populations.

[Ranmaru]

the thing is, what is trash to someone can be treasure to someone else. those veterans have their opinions but they can't speak on everyone that played it as long or longer and like it more than they do. no company has ever made a flawless videogame, nor flawless ORPG/mmorpg for that matter. critics and ingrates can split hairs and nitpick all they want, but others can enjoy the soup without being "educated of the history" because like those two have showed as example here, their viewpoints are largely negative and bitter.

its kind alike asking a scrooge for advice what they think about a game they no longer care for.

keeping it straightforward, PSO2 and NGS are both coming to PS4 english. whichever players start with first, they can create character in either one and focus on either PSO2 and/or NGS, right? PS4 english regions will rejuvenant player numbers, so that means more PSO2 players for you too. even though Sega is updating NGS and its the successor of PSO2, not everyone has to play it, but in any case, I seen livestreams and channels of people celebrating the 10th anniversary together, its not a tidal wave of players together, but it's not a wonder twins sized party either.

all in all, the PS4 english debut will speak for itself. instead of veterans trying to think for others or try to set an attitude and goggles to look through, let the newcomers evaluate PSO2 and NGS themselves and decide their own viewpoint on things, they would get more enjoyment out of it than listening to people point out all its 'flaws" and whatever's missing.

and wouldnt call the trip from PSO2 to NGS being forced. moving to NGS would be a natural step after completing whatever people can on PSO2, cause NGS has its own new areas, content and qualities that some may like. and they can have character(s) still in PSO2, so there is really no restriction of access between the two games. so instead of bickering what this or this lacks, people can just stick with whichever they like more. but I would say its a waste to play PSO2 but not explore NGS.

also you can say no one is evil here, but veterans can still cause harm in the process of trying to 'inform' people of what they think is 'wrong' with the games (also calling people that want PSO2/NGS but don't buy Xbox/PC "lazy", is rude. we've actually saved hundreds of dollars being patient). blaming Sega isn't changing anything. instead of downplaying the good things and only focusing on the bad, veterans should take care to not rain on the parade cause their bitterness only poisons the atmosphere and whether intentional or not, they risk causing some newcomers to dislike the games without even giving them a chance with a fresh slate of impressions not influenced by other views.

so really, PSO2 and NGS can't afford internal fighting among communities. they are what they are, so people either make use of their good aspects, or go play something else. this upcoming debut of PS4 english localization is for those that are positive about PSO2 and NGS, not those that think they aren't good enough and try to discourage people. And Sega is being super generous offering these games free up front. companies like Blizzard and Square Enix would charge subscription fees (which despite WoW and FFXIV being successful, even many veterans are fed up with paying fees on top of the buy to play expansions and microtransactions, and would rather have a F2P with microtransactions. plus the WoW/FFXIV formula really can't substitute the PSO series formula which is much more inviting and entertaining. so that is some of the reasons why veterans and newcomers will move to games like PSO2/NGS than the biggest mmorpgs out there. )

so its a great priviledge getting them on PS4 in english. PSO2 and NGS are sure to earn more dedicated fans and crossplay will optimize the populations.

NGS will be what new players will play first as they will be forced to play through the NGS tutorial before playing PSO2 base. Then, they'll have the opportunity to play PSO2 base, which will then require the base PSO2 tutorial.

Moving to NGS from PSO2 Base was natural for the JP PSO2 community because they had the time, but PSO2 global had to rush. Myself, I was content with the rush, however many new players were overwhelmed with the rush and I could understand their frustration in spite of my own selfishness. This is always the point where I will give props to Microsoft for taking the initiative to spark Global, because I don't think Sega JP would have. I do agree, that any PSO2 player should give NGS a try, as the game play is fun, and much more accessible in terms of augmenting gear.

I agree that being patient and saving money is smart. I wouldn't say buying an Xbox for PSO2 would be required, my buddy and I made that risk simply because we could and we were hyped for a game we have been waiting for since 2013. We were aware how late this was, yet still took the opportunity because why waste it, we have been waiting for it. I think having a balance is important actually, because we want to prop up the positives, but let the company know the negatives so those can be improved upon. At the moment, the only *negative* I see is lack of content which, isn't a major deterrent. However, I agree with letting people enjoy the game at their own pace, and they will learn themselves that things are slow. What will most likely happen is they will be patient and wait for new content, like myself and my buddy have been doing. We intend to play on August 3rd and give it a try again since the cap is at level 60 now.

I agree that we shouldn't fight internally. I think it's important we understand each other, and help each other if possible. However, I'm not entirely on the same page of considering Sega as generous here. There are many games with the F2P model, and it's always clear to consumers that it's done because there is more opportunities to make more money in that manner.

[Saner]

NGS will be what new players will play first as they will be forced to play through the NGS tutorial before playing PSO2 base. Then, they'll have the opportunity to play PSO2 base, which will then require the base PSO2 tutorial.

thanks I read about that. well its just a matter of switching to PSO2 after running through NGS tutorial. I'll let PSN friends be aware of that so they jump to PSO2 asap.


Moving to NGS from PSO2 Base was natural for the JP PSO2 community because they had the time, but PSO2 global had to rush. Myself, I was content with the rush, however many new players were overwhelmed with the rush and I could understand their frustration in spite of my own selfishness. This is always the point where I will give props to Microsoft for taking the initiative to spark Global, because I don't think Sega JP would have. I do agree, that any PSO2 player should give NGS a try, as the game play is fun, and much more accessible in terms of augmenting gear.

yea, it has its pros, which is why I encourage people to focus on PSO2 as soon as they can, because NGS continues to get updated, so may as well make the most of PSO2, then try out NGS, then go from there and decide which to stay with. or maybe alternate.


I agree that being patient and saving money is smart. I wouldn't say buying an Xbox for PSO2 would be required, my buddy and I made that risk simply because we could and we were hyped for a game we have been waiting for since 2013. We were aware how late this was, yet still took the opportunity because why waste it, we have been waiting for it. I think having a balance is important actually, because we want to prop up the positives, but let the company know the negatives so those can be improved upon. At the moment, the only *negative* I see is lack of content which, isn't a major deterrent. However, I agree with letting people enjoy the game at their own pace, and they will learn themselves that things are slow. What will most likely happen is they will be patient and wait for new content, like myself and my buddy have been doing. We intend to play on August 3rd and give it a try again since the cap is at level 60 now.

ah yes. its ok to get Xbox and PC for it if people are willing to invest in that, though yea its great the rest of us waiting 10 years, get to play it eventually and play PSO2, and NGS gets updates, so people can make use of PSO2 before NGS. so people are getting more options than before with platform and content.


I agree that we shouldn't fight internally. I think it's important we understand each other, and help each other if possible. However, I'm not entirely on the same page of considering Sega as generous here. There are many games with the F2P model, and it's always clear to consumers that it's done because there is more opportunities to make more money in that manner.

well I respect your view on Sega. Sega makes mistakes, however, I feel even though it took Microsoft to get them to make ports and localizations happen, Sega is putting the work in. and PSO2 and NGS will be free to play on PS4 english too, and at least PSO2 is in a league of its own that no F2P nor buy to play nor fee based mmorpg can match at all. Blizzard's ARPG series PSO was inspired by, is miniscule and low graphics and simple spammy combat compared to what even PSU offered. Guild Wars, FFXI, WoW, FFXIV, none of them is anything like PSO games. NGS is its own sauce too. so overall, F2P with microtransactions with these exclusive artistic and gameplay qualities only found in PSO2 and NGS, Sega is in ways super generous compared to other companies like activision, square enix, capcom, bandai namco, would charge people a lot of money up front. with PSO2/NGS people save hundreds of dollars over the years without having to pay a penny to play them. meanwhile FFXIV is well developed in a sense with over the top storytelling (depressing to me, though) and different quantities, but to many veterans tired of it, it's a one trick pony and reskinned routine more people are having enough of. WoW has been in a decline. but PSO2 and NGS is still inviting in different ways unexplainable and really one of the most accessible high quality community games out there. even single player series like Xenoblade and Star Ocean can't match them. So really with all PSO2 and NGS offers, Sega is very generous going with the F2P model when, like Black Desert, they could have charged a buy to play pricing, and a subscription fee on top of that like they did with PSU's online and gamecube PSO. but PSO2 and NGS is absolutely free, and this isn't some tacked on gatcha game found on mobile. and I read there are ingame currency methods to unlock more inventory space, I think there is a guide somewhere. so fundamentally, SEGA is super generous even though they had to had Microsoft convince them to make these games ported and translated in the west. and they could have been complacent with just Xbox and PC english, but they are putting the work in for PS4 english version and perhaps PS5 can play it too, so Sega does deserve respect where credit is due.

well glad its getting localized on PS4, cause english PS4 gamers dont wanna spend hundreds of dollars to play it, nor put up with PC exclusive troubleshooting like this https://www.reddit.com/r/PSO2NGS/comments/wc3syp/pso2_fix/

[ArcaneTechs]

but PSO2 and NGS is still inviting in different ways unexplainable and really one of the most accessible high quality community games out there. even single player series like Xenoblade and Star Ocean can't match them.
I've never seen someone put Sega on such a high pedestal as you, it's really odd. I guess if I stay blind to everything I would agree with this


So really with all PSO2 and NGS offers, Sega is very generous going with the F2P model when, like Black Desert, they could have charged a buy to play pricing, and a subscription fee on top of that like they did with PSU's online and gamecube PSO.
MMO models changed over time, they are doing nothing special but following the current trends to make more money with their f2p, they aren't being "generous", this is literally most game mobiles now a days especially mobile


but PSO2 and NGS is absolutely free, and this isn't some tacked on gatcha game found on mobile. and I read there are ingame currency methods to unlock more inventory space, I think there is a guide somewhere.
It is Gacha but with $2s a spin for random Fashion which btw is the biggest source of money making for this game in case you didn't know. The game wouldn't survive if they didn't have others spending every 2 weeks. Just because YOU decide to not spend a dime doesn't mean this game would survive with other players doing the same. Sega has their Gacha tactics in the game, just a matter if you're finally going to spend money on the game at some point, either now or year into the game.


so fundamentally, SEGA is super generous even though they had to had Microsoft convince them to make these games ported and translated in the west. and they could have been complacent with just Xbox and PC english, but they are putting the work in for PS4 english version and perhaps PS5 can play it too, so Sega does deserve respect where credit is due.
Giving a company lots of money to port their game over to their console will get them to do that, it's not like Phil Spencer said "he, it would be really cool if you ported over PSO2/NGS to our Xbox platform. Thanks". Nothing amazing happened for this, it's literally all just business and with a PS4 version already on JP, all they have to do is small work to make the English translations work. It's low effort for them and it's also a "hey, lets put it on the PS4/5 now and make more money". There's very likely another case of the Console Exclusivity deal that seems likely to have been done considering it's been a year since Global release for Xbox and Playstation users can now play it with the door opening for them but you, me and anyone else would never know this unless Sega outright says it themselves.


well glad its getting localized on PS4, cause english PS4 gamers dont wanna spend hundreds of dollars to play it, nor put up with PC exclusive troubleshooting like this https://www.reddit.com/r/PSO2NGS/comments/wc3syp/pso2_fix/

Gameguard/Nprotect have always been an issue but not a serious one, usually just end up deleting the folder and it re-downloads and solves the issue. It's such a small issue that happens it's not that big a deal for people to get passed so this cherry picking PC issues isn't going to work. How about you go dig up some of the console performance issues NGS has had in the past? Except this time, you can't do anything about it until next maintenance, emergency maintenance or a software update is ready for your console.

As for spending hundreds of dollars on this f2p game, don't worry, you may not have to pay to play but they'll definitely get money from you doing those AC/SG scratches that come into rotation over time, fomo, etc. Again, YOU might not spend now but others will, just takes time with w/e mental reasoning you have for doing it.

Anyways, enjoy PSO2/NGS when it's out but definitely don't expect the PSO2 blocks to be like full or jam packed, they're essentially almost dead on both servers. You might get like MAYBE half or if you're lucky one full block on PSO2c but thats granted the people you're expecting to want to go that game first over playing NGS. Last thing I could say is to stop putting Sega on such a high pedestal, they haven't shown that they've been worth it for quite some time

[Saner]

"they haven't shown they been worth it for quite some time"? yet you still play PSO2? that's a rather conflicting statement downplaying the things they did right yet still playing a game that is on its 10th anniversary and still active. meanwhile, I could list a lot of empty online games, including fighting games, that make PSO2 and NGS online look at least like a lively village.

Also localizing on PS4 is not as easy as it sounds. that requires time, and more work and money than anyone outside the industry inner walls have a clue how it all comes together. the medium is so complex, without good developers that know what they're doing, there could be glitches and other issues, and each platform is different. One example how complex development is, is notice how even experienced legendary companies like From Software have a history of bad ports on PC, and not just them, porting, localizations, it requires a lot more organization and effort that we that just play these games aren't aware of. its easy to say its easy, but to do it oneself? people outside the business wouldnt know where to begin.

so Im not placing Sega on a higher pedestal as much as giving credit where credit is due. there are a lot of companies that would just give up and just invest in mobile gaming and that's it, or become a Konami that these days just makes collections of 8 bit/16 bit games. Sega could have been done after PSU, but they made PSO2, and NGS, and it would be ungrateful to not acknowledge these games can matter to more people on english PS4, the retention rate may vary, but if even a remaster of a PS3 port like Virtua Fighter 5 FS into VF5US can still have a daily dedicated playerbase online over a year later (and did so well that a VF6 is seriously being considered with Sega), then PSO2 and NGS could increase its fanbase and playerbase with english PS4 players.

PSO2 and NGS can matter more to the PS4 newcomers than a lot of veterans that been there year 1. So in the topic of PSO2 and NGS, people shouldnt be so hard on SEGA, because they definitely are doing more for PSO fans that like the latest offerings.

and yes, the ones that pay microtransactions/gacha for cosmetics and stuff, that is ok, I would chip in too to support the games, after all its free up front, contributing with microtransactions is the least one can do as thanks for making these masterpieces available to current platforms. there are fans that sure dont want PSO2 and NGS to be left behind like what happened to PSU. so there is much good to experience out of them and NGS is still young and has potential. it won't be ideal for everyone, but it does stand out in a good way for those that like it.

and the localization/ports on Xbox and PC generated so much more money for SEGA in just a few months, so can PS4 english regions, they did the math so they know its worth the investment. Xbox and PC reception proved that no matter how old a masterpiece is, its still a masterpiece.

[sol_trigger]

I like your optimism but I'd love to see how it goes 2-3 months after the platform release. NA community seems to be rather positive over this game compare to the english community in JP version and likely the JP community itself. Also, I saw around 2.3% player increase on Steam over Retem vs Kvaris region in the NA version, at least according to the active player count there. So maybe for NA version this PS4 might be a good thing, but we'll see.


lol delusional fan just refuse to believe this game is a burn and crash.


https://i.postimg.cc/0jPt0BTf/ngsc.jpg


Phantasy Star Online 2 New Genesis
253
playing an hour ago

OOF! big oof, even the trashbag like bless unleashed got 3 times player more than NGS

[エリュシオン]

lol delusional fan just refuse to believe this game is a burn and crash.


https://i.postimg.cc/0jPt0BTf/ngsc.jpg


Phantasy Star Online 2 New Genesis
253
playing an hour ago

OOF! big oof, even the trashbag like bless unleashed got 3 times player more than NGS

253 for a game that was offline is pretty good. (´• ω •`)

[ArcaneTechs]

lol delusional fan just refuse to believe this game is a burn and crash.


https://i.postimg.cc/0jPt0BTf/ngsc.jpg


Phantasy Star Online 2 New Genesis
253
playing an hour ago

OOF! big oof, even the trashbag like bless unleashed got 3 times player more than NGS

please be smart, maintenance just ended a couple of hours ago so theres going to naturally be a low player count right now. It would be better if you did this from this Fri-Sun for a bit more accurate numbers or I guess if you want to try again later today or Thursday.

[sol_trigger]

peak CCU from the past 12 months

July 2021 7,626.6 -8,518.7 -52.76% 15,927
July 2022 3,095.9 -175.3 -5.36% 5,227

yes totally not dead and blooming game

[Saner]

peak CCU from the past 12 months

July 2021 7,626.6 -8,518.7 -52.76% 15,927
July 2022 3,095.9 -175.3 -5.36% 5,227

yes totally not dead and blooming game


you don't understand what the word means considering the fact you disregard even one person playing it, and not even acknowledge THOUSANDS of players playing it, which is a lot more players at once than even soulsborne games Elden Ring has online. and of course much more than any fighting game at once.

So keep hating. its a wonder you even bother trolling here as if you're paid to be a doomer.

every single person playing PSO2 NGS matters, and they sure as heck don't care what you think about the state of the game.

PSO NGS is very much alive compared to Hokuto No Ken Online, Dragon Ball Online, Kingdom Under Fire II, TERA on PC, the list goes on.

and for gameplay content that supports up to parties of 4 commonly, not a lot of people are required to progress and have a sense of world populated with other players.

and negative perspective like yours is not helping people on the fence to give it a chance. if anything it's like you don't want PSO2 NGS to succeed and increase in popularity. you just paint a bad image and expect others to dislike it too.

there are various western and eastern players still streaming PSO2 NGS, obviously there are people that care to still play it and really like it and prefer playing PSO2 NGS than any other game available. there's absolutely nothing in the industry that can substitute PSO2 NGS.

People either like it or it's not for them.

but the fact is, PSO2 NGS is alive, Sega continues to dedicate updates and new content to it, so it continues to grow and PS4 english will bring in new waves of players, some of them will stay and continue playing it, whether PSO2, NGS or both.

[quickasker]

hell yeah boii, two more weeks

[Saner]

just a few days until release on August 31, 2022 wednesday!!
https://twitter.com/play_pso2/status/1563250001685331976