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QuickJim
May 16, 2003, 05:40 AM
What's the weapon that Ash uses in the second quest where you meet him (I think it's Black Paper, but I could be wrong).

It's some kind of double ended staff. Looks like the light sabre Darth Maul uses.

Moleman
May 16, 2003, 05:49 AM
If its a red double-saber, its stag-cutlery.



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Reenee
May 16, 2003, 08:47 AM
It's the Stag Cutlery. A pathetic weapon if I may say so. Get a Twin Brand.

Dhylec
May 16, 2003, 09:09 AM
at least st improve his wep a bit..
in dcv2, he has only a dlbsabre which is weaker..
he gave me 2 failed quests on vh b/c his stag still aint good enough & i was using a varista.. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

VulpesMundi
May 16, 2003, 03:19 PM
It depends on the difficulty setting, actually. In lower difficulties Ash carries a Stag Cutlery and in higher difficulties he carries a Twin Brand.

Stag Cutlery
http://www.pso-world.com/items.php?op=viewarticle&artid=100

Twin Brand
http://www.pso-world.com/items.php?op=viewarticle&artid=109

critter
May 16, 2003, 06:27 PM
isnt a stag better than a twin brand?

VulpesMundi
May 16, 2003, 09:07 PM
Nope, the Twin Brand is better. Here's pictorial proof of the stats of the Double Saber, Stag Cutlery, and Twin Brand both with no grind and at max grind. And just so you don't get confused by the images, I took multi-player screenshots and pasted them together in Photoshop.

http://www.angelfire.com/rpg2/etl/pso/stats_double_saber.jpg
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg2/etl/pso/stats_stag_cutlery.jpg
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg2/etl/pso/stats_twin_brand.jpg

Stalfos333
May 16, 2003, 10:56 PM
Stag Cutlery was the first I had, and I found two of those off Barba Ray before finding another Doublesabre type. Then, thanks to the ease with which Redria finds Demo Comets, I had two of those and still haven't seen a Twin Brand.

Proto22003
May 16, 2003, 11:03 PM
isnt twin brand only better by like 5 atp