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MaximumDrive
May 19, 2003, 01:54 AM
I think that every Section ID has a Power Hour. And what I mean by that is that every 100 beats, is a beat hour. And for some Sections ID's, there are specific Beat hours which that Section ID can find more rares and good regular items. I just noticed that for the time that I have been in the forest, I have found a ton of rares and good regular items.
Example:
2 DB Sabers
2 Slicer Of Assasin
1 Photon Drop
Booma's Right Arm
Few Mat's
Few Grinders

Tell me what you guys think about that. Please, let me know.

Rhete
May 19, 2003, 02:06 AM
I think you found a bunch of common items

MaximumDrive
May 19, 2003, 02:15 AM
Luck Material
Rappy's Wing
2 Trigrinders

Captain_Dude
May 19, 2003, 04:02 AM
Sounds like a buncha common items. What level are you at? If you're low, and this IS a huge thing for'y, then perhaps you're right...

CorneliusPower
May 19, 2003, 04:36 AM
Give Maximum a break, he had a power hour. Of course we can say that because there have been days I've found a grinder let alone a mate. Perhaps Maximum is onto something. Just to let ya know All in 1 run i found 1 p drop, a red handgun and the Dragon dropped Dragon Claw in Heat sword. Not bad, eh? Not great either, but i am just relating to Maximum.

LittleMissHoney
May 19, 2003, 12:23 PM
Tbh you may be onto something there. It does seem that all of your good finds come at once. Only thing is trying to tie down which is which.

LittleMissHoney
May 19, 2003, 12:28 PM
It would also explain that sometimes you have to pipe over and over again to find rare creatures then all of a sudden you find loads.

Vanango
May 19, 2003, 12:49 PM
hence the point of having section id area and difficulty excavations

jt
May 19, 2003, 04:22 PM
I agree with you Maximum and i think the power hour or hot time as i call it, is determined by that last number in the section id. When you make ur section id u have to get a certain amount of numbers and the number in the ones column has to be a certain number. ig Redria could be 7 as the one's column number and his/her hot time could be the 700s. thats a add on to ur theory!

Kali 84 FOnewm PSOX

th0rnz
May 20, 2003, 12:09 PM
Here is a list I have been keeping while playing, with beat times. I play all hours of the day, but you will see a pattern in my beat time findings. I'm skyly by the way.

Episode I

*-Normal-*

Amplifier of Red - 498 - Offline
Amplifier of Red - 251 - Offline

*-Hard-*

Amplifier of Gifoie - 118 - Offline
Amplifier of Gifoie - 129 - Offline
Musashi 0/0/0/0 - 394 - Offline
Flowens Sword 0/0/35/0 - 442 - Offline
Flowens Sword 5/0/25/0 - 249 - Online
Flowens Sword 0/0/0/0 - 249 - Online
Flowens Sword 0/0/0/0 - 344 - Online
Flowens Sword 0/45/0/0 - 845 - Online
Rappy's Wing - 339 - Online
Talis - 155 - Offline
Visk235W - 262 - Offline

*-Vhard-*

Photon Drop - 215 - Offline - Forest box 1
Flowens Sword 15/0/0/0 - 232 - Offline
Yamato - 0/0/0/0 - 136 - Offline
Brave Knuckle 30/0/0/0 - 182 - Offline
DB saber 20/0/0/0 - 210 - Offline
Gigoboomas Arm - 132 - Online
Last Survivor - 712 - Offline
Photon Drop - 724 - Offline
Wals-MK2 - 768 - Offline
Addslot - 119 - Offline
Addslot - 128 - Offline
Custom Ray ver00 - 156 - Offline
Nar Lily - TP trick - 356 - Offline - God/HP - Addicting Food
Nar Lily - 378 - Offline - Dimate - Addicting Food
Al Rappy - 415 - Offline - Last Survivor 25/0/0/0 - Fake In Yellow
Al Rappy - 074 - Offline - Last Survivor 0/30/25/15 - Native Research

*-Ultimate-*

Dragon Slayer - 876 - Offline
Angry Fist - 099 - Offline
Last Survivor - 251 - Offline
Stag Cultry 0/0/0/25 - 257 - Offline - Gulgus
Stag Cultry 0/15/15/0 - 219 - Offline - Gulgus
Photon Drop - 243 - Offline - Sil Dragon
Photon Drop - 255 - Offline


Episode II
*-Hard-*

Kaladbolg 0/0/0/0 - 455 - Offline - Hard
Kaladbolg 0/20/0/0 - 466 - Offline - Hard

Chronoslash
May 20, 2003, 12:36 PM
You guys have hit on a very talked about theory. Many of the verterans on this site will shoot it down saying that drops are all random chance, and they have good reason to believe so. For the most part, there is not much correlation between beat times and drops. I am still undecided on the subject, but one experience still leads me to believe that there might be some truth to the Beat Theory. To make a long story short, I searched for a Secret Gear for a week without seeing even one rare drop. Then, during beat 659, BAM! a Ghillic drops a red box with a Secret Gear. Seconds later, BAM! another one drops. Both in the same beat. Also, I seem to find all of my rares with my Whithill around beats 650-750, although my Viridia has seen no correlation as of yet.

Well that's my two cents anyway... take it how you will. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_cheepcheep.gif

th0rnz
May 20, 2003, 12:56 PM
I'm a "Veteran" of PSO, played 3,000+ hours on DC versions, and 100 so far on X-Box, and I'm neither shooting down or supporting the beat theory, it's a possibility though.

Sonic Team needs a "trigger" to let the game know when to generate a special shiny red box, some of them random, but it's possible they put a certain beat trigger in so people will play more often during those peak hours, could be anything.

Beat time, dumb luck, anything could play a part, who knows other than ST.

DevOtion
May 20, 2003, 04:16 PM
Hi Everyone. I am very interested in the theory that has been described above and have been for some time now. Me and a 'team' of other players have been working together for a long time now, collecting evidence to prove or disprove this theory.

Please visit my thread that I created on this subject, it may help you...


DevOtion's Help Prove/Disprove the Beat Theory Thread
http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=51918&forum=7&19

LollipopLolita
May 20, 2003, 04:25 PM
On 2003-05-19 10:49, Vanango wrote:
hence the point of having section id area and difficulty excavations



oh my god she gets it. oh i love her!

people should realize that excavation reports help point out a lot of theories, or disproove them

MaximumDrive
May 20, 2003, 06:33 PM
Well Im back after a load of playing and found that some times it is just luck. Today, with Richtor, I had the Dark Sorcessor drop a red box. Me thinking realisticly, I thought, its not a C-Sorc's Arm. And like I thought, it wasn't. It was a Photon Drop. I have a bunch but I cant get online so pretty much, they're useless. As for the beat time yesterday, it was all in the 775+ to latest 825. But like I said, its just a theory. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

Ruri
May 21, 2003, 12:44 AM
I think its all Luck ,One Run I found

Angel harp (Pal Rappy)
Red Saber (Hildetor)
2 Pd's (Boxs)
Dragon Claw (Sil Dragon)

But after all the Other runs i just found one rare every now and then, im thinking luck