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MechDan
Mar 14, 2001, 04:51 PM
I haven't played Rangers much, but I'd guess that a Demon's shotgun of some sort would do more damage and be a much better support weapon than a Crush Bullet or even a Spread Needle.

Ideally, a party could have one Ranger with a Demon's shotgun to soften up all the enemies (with little risk of outright killing them before the others get a hit in). A Force could freeze them at the same time. Then a couple Hunters with Swords mop them up. If the Hunters stick together, everyone should get EXP for nearly every enemy, right? No rare weapons necessary!

forte
Mar 14, 2001, 08:39 PM
Ideally there would be none of the mass spread needles around http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/icon_wink.gif heh, I've played over 100 hours and I don't think i've found any of the -% life mods on weapons other than the rares with them http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/icon_mad.gif
Maybe it's my luck http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/icon_razz.gif

f0rge
Mar 14, 2001, 09:21 PM
while other spread/shot weapons are better than spread needles for rangers, the beauty (or bad part) of spread needles is that hunters can use them.

hunters have a much higher atp than rangers, so a hunter with a spread needle can easily have an ATP of 999, which can clear a whole room in 1 or 2 shots.

M_Bison
Mar 15, 2001, 01:07 AM
There is no better spread/shot weapon for Rangers than the Spread Needle. The damage for a Spread Needle is as good if not better than any other shotgun and the rate of fire for the Spread Needle is at least 3X as fast.

Add to that the Spread Needle's ability to Paralyze enemies and you have a rediculously over-powered weapon.

END OF LINE...

Pneophen
Mar 15, 2001, 07:06 AM
if a demons shotguns special hit though it can take 1/4 of the enemies life which would be way better than a spread needle.

The_Neon_Samurai
Mar 15, 2001, 08:40 AM
LOL, great sig http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/icon_biggrin.gif

Pneophen
Mar 15, 2001, 09:39 AM
Thanks.

I think the cheapest weapon would be a hell shotgun. It has the spread and its special attack kills in one hit.

PowerSlave
Mar 15, 2001, 11:40 AM
I like that strategy about the devil's launcher/arms/etc. But what I have found is that regular weapons with attributes are usually better than most rares. I love my Hell Laser +25, but usually dont use it online because it takes away exp from others. Same thing with the spread needle(which I found by the way, I am VIRIDIA) spread needle is cool, but youll find it takes away much of the fun.

Acel
Mar 16, 2001, 03:30 AM
Spread needles doesnt take away fun as much as Spread Needle WITH GOD/BATTLE...

forte
Mar 16, 2001, 04:26 AM
Hunters easily achieve 999 atp with spread? Not unless they have Shifta.. My Atp was around 975(?) when i borrowed my friend's spread

f0rge
Mar 16, 2001, 06:05 AM
well i hit 985 without shifta....which is way higher than any ranger will ever get with a spread/shot weapon (correct me if i'm wrong).

god/battle is nothing speacial...at least mine aint...sometimes it's like it doesnt even work, i have to keep unequiping/equiping to get it to do anything.

anyone else had that trouble

Sheogorath
Mar 16, 2001, 06:29 AM
Has anyone ever thought of trying an "Arrest" Arms?

I was reading the official PSO Guide, and the "Arrest" Prefix seems to be very similiar to the Spread Needle. It paralyzes enemies, and is considered "rare" when found on a weapon. (Meaning the weapon name is in yellow)

I collect "Rare" or "Photon efficient" Mundane items (Gush Arms, Tempest Arms, Gush LAser, Hell Arms) and I've been intrigued by the thought of finding an Arrest Arm.

Hmmmmm...

Like Azarael said tonight when I mentioned it to him: "Like a Miniature Spread Needle!"

Lenneth
Mar 16, 2001, 02:41 PM
You want to see fun? Find a Havoc Arms. Nothing better than watching a delsaber to the dirty work for you. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/icon_wink.gif

Pax, Lenneth

KLin-304
Mar 16, 2001, 08:48 PM
I have an Arrest Arms grinded up to +10, It does almost as much damage as my Crush bullet, which has some very nice bonuses, (40 against dark, 35 against machines, etc.) so I'd say it is just as powerful, if not more so than a spread needle, just slower on the fire rate, I need some God/battles! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/icon_smile.gif I have a Havoc Launcher as well, very fun when the enemies are all bunched together, and you manage to get the front line to turn on their comrades. I discovered it is possible for 5 sharks to down a Grass Assasin in one hit! coolies! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/icon_biggrin.gif