Must get lavis cannon!

[Quo]

Does anyone know a good beat time for finding a lavis cannon from a tollaw in Ult. forest with a purplenum section I.D.?

[JTeebo]

Uhhhh... Tollaw's are kind of stingy. If you really want one badly, I suggest another ID. It would probably be faster.

[Soukosa]

If you really want a Lavis Cannon, it might be worth the trouble of making a Redria and piping for a Pouilly Slime in Ult Caves with them. If not, Purplenum is the 2nd best ID to get a Lavis Cannon with.

[Quo]

I know purplenum is the second best thats why my character has it (I don't want to pipe for rares). Thats right I made this character only to get the double cannon (I have a friend working on the syncestas). But I need the beat times so don't tell me about my section I.D. tell me the times.

[Reece]

Sorry times arn't any good it's all bout the luck dude

[Lucas2k4]

Beat time might not effect rare findings...

[Dbc]

just play the heat sword quest first room over and over, if ur on the box the fire dome swirl has quite a bit of tollaws

[Quo]

Please don't reply if you don't know the beat time.

[Dbc]

there is no beat time for rare items, not any that have been found anyways, there have been some beat times for rare monsters.

[Reece]

I think he is in denial that there is no beat time...

[Dbc]

Quo start looking for a lavis cannon now i just got my second of a tollaw:)

[Quo]

i am looking for it but i don't beleive in luck so any beneficial circumstances are much needed.

[Reece]

How can you not belive in luck? So much stuff in the world has to do with LUCK. Well there are no beat things so just go killing Tallows

[Quo]

If you don't believe beat times boost rare findings then you must agree they don't deminish them either. In other words it may not help but it can't hurt. And I need all the help I can get.


Quo start looking for a lavis cannon now i just got my second of a tollaw:)

Did you happen to note the beat times?

[Stalfos333]

Perhaps luck isn't the right term. The drops in PSO are algorithmically based, and have a complex enough system for choosing when to drop an item, and a rare item, that it seems to be random. When and if things are dropped are as mathematical based as whether flipping a coin will land tails or heads. No, not based on luck, but on complex mathematical principals so convoluted that they might as well be random, and can be expressed as only a probability.

[Quo]

How can you not belive in luck? So much stuff in the world has to do with LUCK. Well there are no beat things so just go killing Tallows

No, nothing in the world has to do with luck. Everything is an inevitible outcome based on conditions and circumstance. If the conditions y and z are met then the outcome must be x no mystical force dubbed luck changes the outcome.

[Dbc]

once again IT IS luck i got my first lavis around 200-230 and my second one was at 731 beats happy? i doubt ull find one though at those beats.



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[Stalfos333]

If x and y, then z? That's ridiculous. Nothing is that simple. Things are so complex, in fact, have SO many variations and possibilities, and exist in such invisible harmony with ALL other things, that it's just dumb luck whether anything happens at all. You cannot consciously influence the world enough to make any outcome you desire a certainty, and thus you have to rely on luck.

[Dragon_Ash]

It took me 3 1/2 hours to find the Lavis cannon after killing 15 red slimes

[Reece]

15 Red Slimes in 3 hours damn your lucky

[Quo]

If x and y, then z? That's ridiculous. Nothing is that simple. Things are so complex, in fact, have SO many variations and possibilities, and exist in such invisible harmony with ALL other things, that it's just dumb luck whether anything happens at all. You cannot consciously influence the world enough to make any outcome you desire a certainty, and thus you have to rely on luck.

No sir, you're ridiculous. Anything that has multiple possibilities is influenced by human will and human will is the instrument which brings about change. What I'm saying is: if you flip a coin and the force exerted on the coin is a and the position of the coin on your hand is b and the position of your hand is c and the air pressure is d and the wind influence is e and the surface the coin lands upon is [/i]f then the coin will not only land with the same side facing up every time but it will also land in the same spot and in the same way every time when you change variables a,b,c,d,e, and/or f[i] then you give the possibility for a different result. Yes, it is that simple.

[Quo]

once again IT IS luck i got my first lavis around 200-230 and my second one was at 731 beats happy? i doubt ull find one though at those beats.

Yes, I am happy.

[Reece]

Your not gonna find one unless you do 200 Runs probaly more...

[Quo]

Thanks for the vote of confidence.

[Lucas2k4]

On 2003-08-13 14:04, Quo wrote:


If x and y, then z? That's ridiculous. Nothing is that simple. Things are so complex, in fact, have SO many variations and possibilities, and exist in such invisible harmony with ALL other things, that it's just dumb luck whether anything happens at all. You cannot consciously influence the world enough to make any outcome you desire a certainty, and thus you have to rely on luck.

No sir, you're ridiculous. Anything that has multiple possibilities is influenced by human will and human will is the instrument which brings about change. What I'm saying is: if you flip a coin and the force exerted on the coin is a and the position of the coin on your hand is b and the position of your hand is c and the air pressure is d and the wind influence is e and the surface the coin lands upon is [/i]f then the coin will not only land with the same side facing up every time but it will also land in the same spot and in the same way every time when you change variables a,b,c,d,e, and/or f[i] then you give the possibility for a different result. Yes, it is that simple.



Simple? Yeah right! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif