Agito 1975 x2 ........ W00000TAH

[AuronAU]

Well after spending about a week and a half looking for a lavis cannon with my redria, i decided i would go looking for something else. After consulting the drop charts i saw agito 75 for pinkal from pal rappies. So make a F0 as you do and went to ult in about 21 hours at level 55 i think.

Finish up the 3 quests to unlock fake in yellow and i begin. I started doing normal runs and after 5 i decided to pipe. 4 rappies later I had nothing to i gave up and went to bed. The next morning i do another 5 runs, no pal rappy, so i pipe. 2 pal rappies drop after about an hour and a half of piping. 2 red boxes, 2 AGITO 1975'S W000000TAH!!!!!!!

One was 00/00/00/10 and the other 10/00/00/30.

Damn rare system. 33 Red Slimes and no lavis. 6 Pal Rappies and 2 Agito's ...... silly silly stuff. ^_^

[Soukosa]

Wow, you're quite lucky. Reminds me when I was doing a run through the Ruins with one of my chars. I was in a room where the current wave consisted of 2 Belras. After I killed them off, I was rewarded with 2 red boxes, both special weapons. Maybe the system in the game that determines whether a rare falls or not has a fault to where you can get the same rare from 2 of the same enemies if they're killed within a close enough time period.

[Fanatic]

Looking at AuronAU's other exploits (posted in sig), I do see some wild variations though.. I mean, 11 Pals for Redria Red Handagun, but 2 Harps in 12 skyly Pals... that's completely opposite of what it should be (and even then it would be bad luck with the handgun)....

[AuronAU]

Yeah, I must say my rare exploits are really damn strange. The only weapons I actually was ever hunting for myself to use has been the damn lavis cannon and that red handgun. After I heard all the info about how rare enemies in ultimate dont drop at 96 -> 100% like in Norm -> V.Hard I was set for how long it was gonna take to get rare weapons. So when it took 11 pals for the red handgun I thought it was normal. Well anyway believe it or not thats what happened, and no im not saying your lying ^_^.

[Fanatic]

I wasn't suggesting you were lying either ^_^

My own Pal experiences for the mentioned IDs goes like this:
Redria - 1 Pal, 1 RHG
Skyly - 15 Pals, 0 Harps http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

If you believe the rare% charts on so many other sites, the numbers are supposed to be:
Redria Pal RHG: 1/2
Skyly Pal Harp: 1/21

[AuronAU]

1/2 for red handgun ...... damn that really sucked for me ........

where abouts are these sites? I always wanted to see what people reckoned were the percent drops for the ULT rare enemies and stuff.

[Fanatic]

The jap page which was so commonly linked here seems 404 at the moment..

A table based on that site can be found here:
http://faqs.ign.com/articles/393/393635p1.html

[ctrl]

Man, if that's correct, I don't think me Redria will get a P-wand very soon: Psycho Wand 1 / 299,593. :

[Fanatic]

PWs are so impossible to find, that if you don't have a Purplenum in ultimate and claims to have piped it, no-one will believe it is legit ^_^

[Sato_master]

I thing find this is imposible, but if you say I believe...because I kill 1000 Tollaws and... NOTHING.

[TheAlmightyNewbie]

On 2003-08-25 10:23, Sato_master wrote:
I thing find this is imposible, but if you say I believe...because I kill 1000 Tollaws and... NOTHING.




errrr....






what? o_o

[Reiya]

lol :S

[Firocket1690]

Fanatic, I highly recommend you edit your 3rd post...

[Da_Wrecka]

On 2003-08-25 01:38, AuronAU wrote:
Yeah, I must say my rare exploits are really damn strange. The only weapons I actually was ever hunting for myself to use has been the damn lavis cannon and that red handgun. After I heard all the info about how rare enemies in ultimate dont drop at 96 -> 100% like in Norm -> V.Hard I was set for how long it was gonna take to get rare weapons. So when it took 11 pals for the red handgun I thought it was normal. Well anyway believe it or not thats what happened, and no im not saying your lying ^_^.


Lower-levelled characters do seem to have a better chance of getting some items than high-levelled characters. My RAmar managed to score a Graviton Plate from a Gilchic and a God/Arm from a Dubchic in the same VHard Mines run (SKYLY) but according to a Japanese website that lists item drops and probabilities the odds of getting both are incredibly slim. Likewise my FOnewearl got a Cure/Freeze from a VHard Hidoom in Spaceship despite the odds being incredibly low. The same FOnewearl also managed to score a total of 3 God/Arms from Panarms in VHard Caves. I could go on, but there is other evidence to consider; when Sasami (the aforementioned FOnewearl) was around L130, I had a strategy for hunting God/Battles. I would run through Waterfall Tears until I reached the room with 9 Ob Lilies, then pipe until I got a Mil Lily. Regardless of what that dropped I'd then start playing Forest of Sorrow until a God/Battle dropped. On average it took no more than about 6 FoS runs to get a God/Battle. Now, she's L151, and 10 or more runs can result in nothing more than junk, without a God/Battle in sight.

[AuronAU]

All it goes to show is the complete randomness of the drops in this game.

Although there do seem to be a variety of factors that seem to subtly alter the chances of rare drops and rare enemies.

I am now up to 51 Red Slime kills and still not even a single red box. I am starting to wonder if I used every bit of luck with the 2 agitos and the 2 harps......

[Nambrosia]

Lemme see if I can remember my rare enemy drops..
VH:
Forest:

Al Rappy:
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|Purplenum: Rappies found/rares dropped: 0/0 |
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|Viridia: Rappies found/rares dropped: 1/1 |
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Hildeblue:
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|Purplenum: Blues found/rares dropped: 2/2 |
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|Viridia: Blues found/rares dropped: 0/0 |
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Caves:
Nar Lilly:
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|Purplenum: Nars found/rares dropped: 4/4 |
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|Viridia: Nars found/rares dropped: 1/1 |
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Pouilly Slime:
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|Purplenum: Slimes found/rares dropped: 0/0 |
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|Viridia: Slimes found/rares dropped: 1/1 |
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VR Temple:
Nar Lilly:
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|Purplenum: Nars found/rares dropped: 1/1 |
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|Viridia: Nars found/rares dropped: 0/0 |
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Hildeblue:
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|Purplenum: Blues found/rares dropped: 0/0 |
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|Viridia: Blues found/rares dropped: 0/0 |
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Love Rappy:
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|Purplenum: Loves found/rares dropped: 0/0 |
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|Viridia: Loves found/rares dropped: 0/0 |
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Ult:
Forest:

Pal Rappy:
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|Purplenum: Pal's found/rares dropped: 1/1 |
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|Viridia: Pal's found/rares dropped: 0/0 |
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Hildetorr:
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|Purplenum: Torr's found/rares dropped: 0/0 |
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|Viridia: Torr's found/rares dropped: 0/0 *argh* |
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Caves:
Mil Lilly:
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|Purplenum: Mil's found/rares dropped: 7/0 =/ |
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|Viridia: Mil's found/rares dropped: 0/0 |
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Pouilly Slime:
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|Purplenum: Slimes found/rares dropped: 1/1 |
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|Viridia: Slimes found/rares dropped: 0/0 |
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VR Temple:
Mil Lilly:
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|Purplenum: Mil's found/rares dropped: 5/2 |
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|Viridia: Mil's found/rares dropped: 2/1 |
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Hildetorr:
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|Purplenum: Torrs found/rares dropped: 2/1 |
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|Viridia: Torrs found/rares dropped: 0/0 |
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Love Rappy:
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|Purplenum: Love's found/rares dropped: 1/0 |
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|Viridia: Love's found/rares dropped: 0/0 |
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