Most Underrated Class?

[jt]

what are the most underrated classes but are actually good?

[Malkavian]

I wanted to vote for RAcast. I think is underrated or at least less used.

[Nai_Calus]

FOnewm. All anyone says about them is that they're ugly, when their only real weakness is that, well, for the most part they -are- ugly, and they make crap support FOs. *shrug*

[Lone_Wolf_Nasca]

Yeah, FOnewm are ugly. Dont know maybe its the butt pads they have.LOL.^_^

[Dhylec]

fonewm has bonus in ra techs but i dont pick him..
his clothes look terrible http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif
maybe when i have my 4th mc than i'll think about making him http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[Dbc]

HUcaseal is pretty underated to me.

[Nani-chan]

Androids are always under rated. Hunewearls and Ramarls are always over rated.

It's true just because they may have a easier time in some places doesn't mean they are god classes or even the class for everybody. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

[Logical2u]

RAcaseals.

No one wants defense stats anymore because they don't reflect what you can equip. They only want Power, Accuracy or Mind stats. IE: Casts, Fonewearls, and HUmars.

[mimicr]

You can't deny the fact that FOnewms are literally fat-asses.

lol

any FOnewms are cool

[joluh]

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[joluh]

FOnewm, most of people don't like them, but i don't care cause they're my fave class =D

EDIT: i forgot to say that most of people say that HU and RA caseals are too weak, but no, they are damn good, besides of looking nice, and my next character will be one of those girls, since my main char is a FOnewm, it's like a great change from techs and little melee to pure melee and no techs =D that keeps the game fresh i think... i think i'll make a HUcaseal, if i make a RAcaseal i'll feel like Dr. Montague with Elenor ¬_¬'

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[Kent]

Underrated:
HUnewearl
HUcaseal
FOmar
FOmarl

Overrated:
RAmar
RAmarl
RAcaseal
RAcast
HUmar

[strongmad89]

FOmarl. She's very good if used correctly, but everyone says she sucks. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_rant.gif Way too underrated. And not to be rude, but, HUnewearl seems to be what most people say is the best Hunter. I don't have one so I wouldn't know its full power, however.

She's still very good though, she has the highest MST of anyone who is not a Force, and I think that is something that can make her powerful. RAmarl is also good in my opinion too.

HUcaseals are also waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyy too underrated. She's very, very easy to use and people are forgetting that she is perfect for challenge mode.

I'd also say FOnewearls are also a little bit overrated. They have very low ATP and HP which can be a big weakness, and are boring to use since all you do is cast techs and watch numbers a ppear on the screen.



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[Aero_Ruisu]

I will have to say RAcaseal many people think she is bad at first but her evade is not bad and her defense is outstanding by level 120 she is a walking tank.

[Dbc]

On 2003-08-28 15:43, strongmad89 wrote:
FOmarl. She's very good if used correctly, but everyone says she sucks. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_rant.gif Way too underrated.

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FOmarls will never be underrated! they rock, with the grants they are unbeatable in battle mode!

[joluh]

On 2003-08-28 17:38, Dbc wrote:


On 2003-08-28 15:43, strongmad89 wrote:
FOmarl. She's very good if used correctly, but everyone says she sucks. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_rant.gif Way too underrated.

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FOmarls will never be underrated! they rock, with the grants they are unbeatable in battle mode!



Yup, FOmarls aren't underrated, actually they rock being a melee force, and she's better than FOmar at that

And about HUnewearl, i can't believe they're on the poll, they can't be more popular, it's getting annoying... so is RAmarl... too bad =(

[strongmad89]

On 2003-08-28 17:38, Dbc wrote:

FOmarls will never be underrated! they rock, with the grants they are unbeatable in battle mode!



Holy crap! I've never thought of that before! Thx man! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[Solidus_Snake]

RAcaseals are some of the most underrated. While my whole team is dying left and right cause their defense sucks like you wouldnt believe my RAcaseal is a reincarnation of the the C&C mammoth tank. massive amounts of armor and dishes out damage in a quick hurry. plus shes has a good amount of health.

Really you could call her a mini-mechwarrior lol mechanical walking tank.

[oath_to_order]

I'm not sure who's most under-rated.... im new so please dont have a go at me for my incorrect comments

Under-rated probally the girl android that looks like a maid (the default costume) one reason is because she looks weak (i.m.o) and 2. shes a girl
a lotta guy players a like anti-girlie cutieness in games, but not everyones like that.
but shes good, just look at the facts. Her stats are really good, at least thats what i think.

Hmmm the human fighter (sorry about how i dont know the technical names i dont own it YET... soon... soon :'( )
I just dont think he has the potentional the other characters do.
Keep in mind im a newb so what do i know?? I just wanted to post my not so right opinion...

[May]

On 2003-08-28 19:33, Solidus_Snake wrote:
RAcaseals are some of the most underrated. While my whole team is dying left and right cause their defense sucks like you wouldnt believe my RAcaseal is a reincarnation of the the C&C mammoth tank. massive amounts of armor and dishes out damage in a quick hurry. plus shes has a good amount of health.

Really you could call her a mini-mechwarrior lol mechanical walking tank.



I concur. Her High DFP makes up for her relatively low ATP, cast Lv. 30 resta & Deband on her and she's practically unstoppable.

[Rudoku]

On 2003-08-28 15:27, Kent wrote:
Underrated:
RAcaseal
HUcaseal
FOnewm
FOmarl

Overrated:
RAmar
RAcast
HUnewearl
FOnewearl
FOmar
HUmar



Your list was all messed up, so I fixed it for you. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[Neverwinter]

Underrated...
FOmar
FOmarl
RAcaseal
HUmar

Overrated(Way Overrated)...
HUnewarl(Not good)
RAmarl

[Kent]

On 2003-08-28 22:40, Rudoku wrote:
Your list was all messed up, so I fixed it for you. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif



Actually, it was already correct, you just screwed it up.

[Rudoku]

You had HUnewearl as underratted, and RAcaseal as overrated. That's just wrong.

EDIT: Incorrect spelling is wrong, too...



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[Solidus_Snake]

HUcaseal is also kind of underrated too. Mine can attack at an ungodly speed which i like quite a lot

[Kent]

On 2003-08-29 10:34, Rudoku wrote:
You had HUnewearl as underratted, and RAcaseal as overrated. That's just wrong.


It's not as wrong as having a Ranger as underrated and having FOmar, FOnewearl, and HUnewearl listed as overrated.

[Rudoku]

I'm basing it on what I see online. I see many HUnewearl, and FOnewearl, but next to no RAcaseal. I only put FOmar because they will become the new HUmar, just wait...and because I use one...

[Kent]

Just because you see very few of some classes doesn't make them underrated, and just because you see very many of of some classes doesn't mean they're overrated.

[SubstanceD]

Basically I would say that all Androids are highly underated especially Racaseal and Hucaseal since everyone seems to be afraid to use androids since they can't use techs and because Racaseal and Hucaseal don't don't have as much ATP or HP as thier Male counterparts.

And Kent, I don't want to cause any trouble or anything but I find it hard to ignore the fact that you think that Racaseal is Overated ( sure high DEF is not very important to a Ranger since most of thier strategy revolves around shooting enemies from a distance and as such they are rarely in harms way but that does not mean that it is not a handy thing to have especially during boss fights ) and more importantly that Hunewearl is Underated.

To the best of my recolection I have never really come across anyone who thinks that Hunewearls arn't any good, at least not anyone who is not being biased, as far as I know everyone acknowledges Hunewearls strengths, her only weakness is ATA which can easily be fixed by raising a Mag with plenty of DEX on it, otherwise she is next to buletproof especially Offline solo where her ATP won't be overshadowed by the other Hunters. That's why almost everyone has one, because they are soo good. Once again how can you say that Hunewearls are underated when everyoen sings thier praises.

[Neverwinter]

I honestly think IMO that HUnewarls are no good. I elieve this because they are just a Stronger Force, not needed even though im a FOmar, but he uses a Virista so. And a HUnewarl is also just a weaker force...sure she can cast higher techs then a Hunter, but she casts lower techs then a Force, and when bite comes to crunch, shes just plain useless. Remember this is my Opinion. And yes i have been 1 before.

[SubstanceD]

On 2003-08-29 15:56, Neverwinter wrote:
I honestly think IMO that HUnewarls are no good. I elieve this because they are just a Stronger Force, not needed even though im a FOmar, but he uses a Virista so. And a HUnewarl is also just a weaker force...sure she can cast higher techs then a Hunter, but she casts lower techs then a Force, and when bite comes to crunch, shes just plain useless. Remember this is my Opinion. And yes i have been 1 before.



Hmmm.......

I stand corrected, kindly dis-regard most of my previous post.

[AtlusSeven]

HUnewearl no good? I beg to differ.

If you're stuck offline, they (arguably) make the best solo character in the game. With level 20 S/D/J/Z, they'll be able to dish out and take more damage than any other Hunter. Plus they have level 20 Resta, and Level 7 Anti, so they can last longer before having to pipe back up for more Mates/Fluids/Etc.

Every character in the game has it's use. Some are better suited for solo play (HUnewearl, RAmarl, FOnewm), some are better for team play (HUcast, RAcast, FOnewearl), some are better for battle mode (FOmarl), and some are better for challenge mode (HUcaseal, RAcaseal). Others are a good balance between solo and team play (HUmar, FOmar, RAmar).

~7

[RAwill]

i honestly believe FOnewms are EDIT; READ THE FORUM RULES. ne1 else?



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[tiltnkirby26]

On 2003-08-31 07:51, RAwill wrote:
i honestly believe FOnewms are gay. ne1 else?


Only if you make him that way.

[Viperdude472]

wheres FOmar?

[tiltnkirby26]

On 2003-08-31 07:51, RAwill wrote:
i honestly believe FOnewms are gay. ne1 else?


O and don't use the "g-word".

[Symbios]

On 2003-08-31 07:51, RAwill wrote:
i honestly believe FOnewms are gay. ne1 else?



This is basically turning into a battle of people saying which class sucks and people flaming them back. Thats just not right. Its posts like these that makes everyone thinks its not against the rules. But im not a mod, what the heck can i do?



On 2003-08-31 03:29, AtlusSeven wrote:
HUnewearl no good? I beg to differ.

If you're stuck offline, they (arguably) make the best solo character in the game. With level 20 S/D/J/Z, they'll be able to dish out and take more damage than any other Hunter. Plus they have level 20 Resta, and Level 7 Anti, so they can last longer before having to pipe back up for more Mates/Fluids/Etc.

Every character in the game has it's use. Some are better suited for solo play (HUnewearl, RAmarl, FOnewm), some are better for team play (HUcast, RAcast, FOnewearl), some are better for battle mode (FOmarl), and some are better for challenge mode (HUcaseal, RAcaseal). Others are a good balance between solo and team play (HUmar, FOmar, RAmar).

~7



Exactly! Choose the class according to what you plan to do most with him/her. However, if there was a underrated character, it indeed is the RAcaseal known as the ranger with "crappy attack power and no techs to support that", making her a great character to play online with a force around, though no one sees that.

[Garm]

i like them all and after reading this topic u people made me change my mind and i recreated my RAcast in a RAcaseal

[-Saygram-]

You people need glasses. FOnewms don't have big butts. Their...shirt thing is just like a FOnewearl's. It's kinda like a "skirt" that is obviously unaffected by gravity, otherwise it would just be less poofy down there...uh if ther makes sense...

Anyways, I never tried a FOnewm so whatever, but the most underrated class is probably the FOmarl. Stat-wise, she can be unimpressive, but her bonuses and animations make up for it.

HUcaseals are not underrated. They can be fun for a while, but in Ult, they die a lot. They have dismal DFP and need a FO to be effective fighters. I should know. I have a Lv 180 HUcaseal, and it was dang hard beating Seat of the Heart on ult. I had to stand around to replenish my HP after each room, and Gol Dragon wasn't fun at all.

[MAGusZ87]

i believe (imo, so the stupid people dont get bent out of shape lol) that HUcaseal and FOmar(i agree w/ Kent's chart) are the 2 most underrated classes(for some reason FOmar isnt on the poll). I hear people say FOmarl is a better melee force (umm yeah whatever), but my FOmar (83) can hit anything in Ult mode so far (ep1) 90% of the time. HUcaseal on the other hand, has only a little less ATP than a HUmar, the highest EVA of any character i believe, and i think just under the ATA of a HUnewearl (or more, i'm so obsessed w/ PSO that i remember max stats for all the classes)

[MAGusZ87]

sry i meant to write
"(or more, but i'm not so obsessed w/ PSO that i remember max stats for all the classes)"

[Orange_Coconut]

I dunno, from my personal experiences I would say that these are the underrated classes from 1 to 12 (1 being most underrated):

1) RAcaseal

2) FOnewm

3) FOmarl

4) RAcast

5) HUmar

6) FOnewearl

7) FOmar

8) RAmar

9) HUcaseal

10) RAmarl

11) Tie HUcast-HUnewearl (I would lean more toward HUcast being 11 and HUnewearl being 12).

The only reason for this is because although some are overplayed, I hear many people hating certain classes.

HUnewearl is both played a lot and talked a lot about all the time, I would say the same for the HUcast.

Plus I see many RAmarls and HUcaseals (I think the HUcaseals would be more overrated then underrated). I have one, I like it, but I must say it's not the best HU in my opinion.

The RAcaseal it seems like everybody hates, either that or just doesn't use. One or the other, plus I don't see many people boasting aboutFOmarl nor the RAcast.

I do see lots of RAcasts in certain areas, but normally when someone joins my game it tends to be a HUmar, FOmar, HUcast, HUnewearl, or a RAmar.

But the reason why I put RAmar and the HUmar and the FOmar there is because, although people say that they're really common, I would call them underrated because people seem to bash on them a lot. I wouldn't say any of them suck, I would even say that they are good compared to a few different characters. Especially the HUmar, they're not exactly terrible.

These are only from personal experiences and sightings, I think it would be different for everybody just because of where they play, how they play, and who they play with.



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[Aphrodite2003]

Fomarl is definatley underrated. People think she is bad at casting, but in truth, that can all be fixed. A Psycho Wand, and Rafoie Merge, can make up a lot. Or a Magical Piece and Gifoie Merge. A Fomarl has i beleive 10 or 7 more ATA then a Fomar, which INDEED makes a differance in meleeing. Fomarls dont have to find uber hit% weapons to hit with. They can also take way more hits then any other Fo. And being awesome at support techs, is apprecaited online.

[Orange_Coconut]

Yes, I would agree. My friend says she's pointless offline, I see his side of that since she's mainly a support FO. But that shouldn't mean you can't play with her offline just because she's more helpful online right?

She also has a boost on Grants, although not many people think that's all too nice, I do. I know it's costly and it's a 1-hit enemy tech. But it's 1.5x damage plus with the Caduceus it's 1.7x damage I believe. I just think it's nifty, personally.

[Symbios]

Dark Bridge gives grants a good boost too. Use it with a FOmarl and they will become very powerful.

[Soukosa]

From what I've seen, the most underrated classes are RAcaseals, FOmarls, and FOnewms. The most overrated classes seem to be HUnewearls, RAmarls, and FOmars.

Now to comment on other people's replies http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif



On 2003-08-31 07:51, RAwill wrote:
i honestly believe FOnewms are gay. ne1 else?

You're really showing your level of intelligence with that. I'm guessing that you also didn't read the forum rules either.


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On 2003-09-01 11:55, -Saygram- wrote:
You people need glasses. FOnewms don't have big butts. Their...shirt thing is just like a FOnewearl's. It's kinda like a "skirt" that is obviously unaffected by gravity, otherwise it would just be less poofy down there...uh if ther makes sense...

Thank you! Someone with some actual intelligence when it comes to FOnewms. I'm not really fan of FOnewms (I prefer females), but I'm tired of so many people degrading them due to how the back of their outfits are.



On 2003-09-01 20:04, Orange_Coconut wrote:
Yes, I would agree. My friend says she's pointless offline, I see his side of that since she's mainly a support FO. But that shouldn't mean you can't play with her offline just because she's more helpful online right?

This is something that I can never understand. Why are FOmarls looked upon as doing pure support online? I'm sorry, but to me, they aren't the best for support, but rather FOnewearls would be better off due to their boosted Resta. FOmarls are designed to be balanced, so just having them play one role isn't right. Offline, my FOmarl is the easiest character to play. Makes me wonder a bit about your friend.

[Orange_Coconut]

I don't know what you mean about wondering about my friend, but I have a FOmarl as well yet I haven't played much with her.

I never said she was a pure support FO, the thing is the FOnewearl is also a support FO, but she does not have the boost in range with Shifta/Deband like the FOmarl. It seems to me like the FOmarl is built more like a support FO rather than the FOnewearl but anyone can be a support FO really.

I know the FOmarl has boosts in both Deband/Shifta as well as Resta/Anti. I just think that she's more like a support FO rather than the FOnewearl.

I personally do not know if the MST difference affects the boosts in the spells, they probably do since they affect every other spell that I can think of. That may very well be the case, therefore the FOnewearl may make a better support FO.

My friend has not played online yet, he saw no point in making a FOmarl after looking at her stats. I, however, have made on even though she is not very far along.

I cannot really judge her, I guess I should atleast test her out before I say such things. I only said what my friend said about her and what I agreed with somewhat. I'll admit, she seems like she would be most useful as a support FO, but that doesn't mean that's what you have to use her as, I never said that.

My friend can't really judge, he has never had one before, he judged due to looking at the stats. I judge after playing, but like I said earlier I used the wrong words to say what I meant and for that I am sorry.

[Naagata_Clan]

First off, FOmarls also get the 2x casting radius for Resta/Anti. Second off, yes FOmarls are balanced characters and should be used as such. Third off, they are considered to be the "better melee FOrce" because they have the most Base ATA of all the FOrces. Fourth off...
*Takes a TOY HAMMER and bumps the topic*
Most underratted characters are the 2 caseals and FOmarl. The RAcaseal is often looked down upon because people don't like their appearance (which confuses me as to WHY) and because they aren't the strongest of the RAs. Sure, they don't have super good balanced stat growth like the RAmarls or are walking Howlitzers like the RAcast, but they still have good ATP, and their DFP is the best of all the RAngers, which comes in very handy when you do get hit.
HUcaseals I've seen looked down upon because no one wants high ATA and EVP for a HUnter... (Which confuses me even more!) Sure, she does rank 3 in the base ATP department, but she is ACCURATE, and she has a 95 EVP advantage over the next class... (talking base 200 stats). People always end up picking the HUcaseal or HUmar for their pure straight out bash everything's skull in damage, but maybe it's just taste. HUcaseals are nice, quick, and have some of the best animations IMO.
FOmarls... constantly overlooked for the FOmar. No one appreciates her higher defense, ATA, and Nice boost in support techniques. A FOmarl is my primary character and I just love her to death. She is able to run alone, and works great on a team online. Sure, they get no attack spells don't get a bonus, but they are still able to use support spells well, casting S/D in a good range, and when you get them a Lv. 30 J/Z, just do all those, and you can melee those evil monsters to death! Do it all the time with my Double Saber.

Anyways... as far as people saying "FOmars are underrated" I think you need to get online more. People love their FOmars because of their highest ATP of the FOs, and they get the nice GI bonuses. People think they FOmars are like the greatest FO, either that or the FOnewm because of their super damage with GI/RA spells.

That's my two cents...

Underrated:
RAcaseal
FOmarl
HUcaseal

Overrated:
HUcast
HUmar
FOnewearl

(Oops, said RAcast by mistake)

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[LJ]

IMO one of the most underatted(sp?) chars is the Humar. Most of the time when i see rants about dupes, they're all pointed at the Humar. " Blah blah blah Humar with a BKB!" "Blah blah blah Lvl 40 Humar with Sealed J Sword!" I mean sure there may be alot of Humars who use dupes but ther are just as many of all the other chars using dupes too. People just mainly say Humar because he is often the first char picked because of his balances, therefore the main char you often saw at the beginning. People often look at Humars and say he's a duper, or an ass that doesnt know how to play. I play a Humar(Im offline now but not for long) and i dont hack or dupe. I dont twink him either. I think he is a really good class that doesnt need a BKB or sealed J to do good damage. I can handle myself in mines with my Lvl 15 Jellen and 14 Zalure. I use a Yamato or stag, an angry fist with 20 machine, a gae bolg and a varista and i do just fine. They're not the best class but they're certainly not the worst either IMO. They're just what they say: Balanced. That's my 2 cents