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f0rge
Apr 6, 2001, 06:50 AM
why is the lavis cannon called the "ultimate sword" if the orotiagito is in fact better?

i've recently had a chance to try both, and the orotiagito hits a good 100 more on critical hits, though the lavis does shoot stuff (useless might i add)

also, if you equip the lavis and then move the cursor over the orotiagito, the atp numbers go red, further proving the orotiagito is better.

Danger_Girl
Apr 6, 2001, 06:54 AM
The Lavis looks like a diamond sword. Diamonds are a Danger Girl's best friendhttp://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/icon_wink.gif.

f0rge
Apr 6, 2001, 06:58 AM
but the orotiagito is a silver agito, it looks pretty damn sweet http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/icon_razz.gif

Danger_Girl
Apr 6, 2001, 07:10 AM
Yes it does! I love the orotiagoto. The katana look is very cool. But there's just something about that Lavis.....

I want onehttp://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/icon_razz.gif!

Rio
Apr 6, 2001, 10:48 AM
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Too bad they're fake...
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Benni
Apr 6, 2001, 10:52 AM
how do i get the oriogito (or whatever its called) weapon - can't even find an agito. Wanna meet up for a game sometine red? hehe

Heero_Yuy
Apr 6, 2001, 11:17 AM
I htink the lavis cannon is still better. Basically my canon has 50 on dark and my oroagito well it only has 20 on all and i only really go to ruins.

Cube
Apr 6, 2001, 12:27 PM
It is known as the ultimate weapon simply because it has sword and Slicer abilities... pretty cool. EVen though the Oroti is slightly stronger,

Bela
Apr 6, 2001, 12:33 PM
I have the orotiagito! I just can't use it for... awhile. I'm level 31. Hehe. Someone gave it to me. Along with stag cutlery. And I have two dragon slayers (Whoo! Can't wait to use those)...

--Bela

Danger_Girl
Apr 6, 2001, 12:53 PM
Rio when you say they are fake, do you mean they don't drop ever? Are they like a hacked item or something? Your not the first person I've heard that from and I was just curioushttp://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/icon_smile.gif.

Ice_
Apr 6, 2001, 01:20 PM
i have yet to try either one of them the oritgo or the lavis canon as of right now my ata is around 120 and I'm a HUmar and would love to try both of thoes weapons if you are willing to let me try yours let me know http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/icon_smile.gif

Loki
Apr 6, 2001, 02:14 PM
Danger Girl, Im pretty sure she means that the only way you can get a lavis cannon is by game sharking it. Its not available in the game normally, and I think the only way you can get it is through a sanctioned sega event.

f0rge
Apr 6, 2001, 06:04 PM
ice_, the atp requirements for the orotiagito is like 470+ and the lavis is 500, if your atp is that high you can, i still have my friends

yeah, you cant get a lavis cannon without sharking it, or trading for a sharked one. i dont know how my friend got them, but i bet they were sharked, given the fact that that's the only way to get a lavis and that no one actually knows how to get an orotiagito

yesterday, i gave someone who was collecting mags a rudra (like lvl 25) that i was raising cause he was a nice guy, and he gave me a lavis cannon in return, i didnt even ask for anything, lol. i kept it just for the sake of having it, i prefer swords myself http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/icon_biggrin.gif

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Burnside
Apr 6, 2001, 06:22 PM
Import verison..japanese have a quest where the reward is a lavis..So..umm..There.. ^.^

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Dark Falz: Is it time to dance?
Rage: No..not yet..
DF: When..?
Rage: After I kill you..
DF: Umm...kay..
Dragon&DelRolLe&VolOpt: Can We dance..?!
Rage: God help me..

Mei-Lin
Apr 6, 2001, 06:28 PM
Well I just want to let you all know that you can find Lavis Cannon
in V.hard Ruins http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/icon_smile.gif That's where I found mine..hehe! they also say that it
depends on how many hours you play too... I got about 300+ on one of my char.

And yes they are REAL! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/icon_razz.gif

HiroShojin
Apr 6, 2001, 06:31 PM
Yeah..Lavis can't have % unless it's hacked.So if you have a % Lavis,congrats,you now have a hacked item!Only way to get it is to have an import(which is what Rage said..)and beat the quest there on and difficulty.So that means if you have all 3 difficulties...you can get up to 3 Lavises...well...that's my theory.





Booyah!-Hiro Shojin

HiroShojin
Apr 6, 2001, 06:33 PM
Oh crap,I didn't know that...>.<.Mei-Lin posted right when I did..and she gave off info I needed....BAH!








Booyah!-Hiro Shojin

zanza
Apr 7, 2001, 11:34 PM
TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION FORGE.
I THINK THE LAVIS IS CALLED THE ULTIMATE
SWORD BECAUSE OF IT'S "SUPPOSED TO BE UBER-RARE RARITY".
ANOTHER REASON WOULD PROBABLY BE IT'S USEFULNESS. IT CAN HIT MULTIPLE ENEMIES IF AIMED RIGHT AND DOES A GREAT AMOUNT OF DAMAGE FOR ITS SLICER-LIKE ABILITY.
THE OROTIAGITO CAN ONLY HIT ONE ENEMY AT A TIME. ALSO IF YOUR ATP IS MAXED
YOUR DAMAGE WITH THE LAVIS WOULD ALMOST MATCH THE OROTIAGITO'S, EVEN WHILE HITTING WITH THE SPECIAL.http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/icon_smile.gif

zanza
Apr 7, 2001, 11:44 PM
On 2001-04-06 16:28, Mei-Lin wrote:
Well I just want to let you all know that you can find Lavis Cannon
in V.hard Ruins http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/icon_smile.gif That's where I found mine..hehe! they also say that it
depends on how many hours you play too... I got about 300+ on one of my char.

And yes they are REAL! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/icon_razz.gif[addsig]


MEI-LIN,
I'M SKEPTICAL SO I HOPE YOU DON'T HATE ME IF I DON'T BELIEVE YOU RIGHT AWAY.
DETAILS WOULD BE NICE.http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/icon_smile.gif

Danger_Girl
Apr 7, 2001, 11:50 PM
Thanks for the info guys/galshttp://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/icon_smile.gif. Diamonds are a Danger Girls best friend, but fake diamonds don't do a thing for mehttp://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/icon_wink.gif.

Nawms
Apr 8, 2001, 12:16 AM
I have a Orotiagito but no lavis cannon. Diamonds may lasts forever but whatever the Orotiagito is made out of is way better. (I know its corny)

-Nawms aka: the recoverer

The_Saint
Apr 8, 2001, 02:45 AM
ummm... what is the point of having a "peer to peer" national online game, when some nations have obvious advantages over others?? Why does it seem like only the japanese can get the Cannon? Why isn't the UK getting version 2? Who can get the Sonic Knuckles? Why wasn't i born Japanese? What is the average air speed velocity of an unladen swallow? How much wood could a wood chuck chuck........

Burnside
Apr 8, 2001, 02:50 AM
Ah..screw those blades.. The real way to live on the edge..to have the most fun, to get smacked around like no other?! God hands r0ck, They 0wnz j00

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Rage: I'm Supaa Haxxor, Chaxxor Baxxor L8er
Sang: Umm..Hiro Hit him..
Hiro: Kay.. ::smacks rage::
Rage: *wince* I need..a job..

The_Saint
Apr 8, 2001, 02:58 AM
........where do you get the God Hands?........
BEWARE MY DRUNK-IN-BOXERS STYLE!

zanza
Apr 8, 2001, 03:08 AM
HEHE...NOW WE'RE GETTING SOMEWHERE!http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/icon_razz.gif
"AWH! SO YOU DARE CHALLENGE MY GUNG-FU?!?!!" BEWARE THE "ROCK-IN-HAND STYLE!" WHAAA-TAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!

The_Saint
Apr 8, 2001, 03:21 AM
-pheh-
Iron Fist, Iron Legs, i've heard all these things before...They usually mean nothing. Hit me with your technique. I can take it...

-oooommpphh!

Your legs!
They REALLY are made of iron!

Azarath
Apr 8, 2001, 03:36 AM
the lavis also fills you pb and does other things... some one even told me it glows some times i dont know if it true but...i do know for sure that is fills your pb slowly. keep using 9it to find out what all it does.

zanza
Apr 8, 2001, 04:24 AM
(IN BAD LIP-SYNCH)
"YOU KILLED MY BROTHER! NOW YOU MUST DIE!!! EEEYYYAAAAHHH!!!"

f0rge
Apr 8, 2001, 04:35 AM
i dont like the lavis, but i do like the orotiagito, it makes nice cutting sounds. the lavis is kinda ugly and when i used it people seemed to think i was a duper/hacker/sharker, even tho i was only borrowing it from my friend. not so however with the orotiagito, i guess it was never mass duped

Mei-Lin
Apr 8, 2001, 12:14 PM
zanza --> I found the lavis online in V.hard ruins. My friend made the team
and he's ID is Skyly. It's in the last room before the DF. And to add
to that it's a US ship! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/icon_razz.gif

well hope that helps you http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/icon_smile.gif
Oh yeah the lavis cannon I found doesn't have any % http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/icon_frown.gif

Ukyou
Apr 8, 2001, 04:36 PM
Actually, the Orotiagito was duped a lot...by an pre-psow, ex-friend...*grrrr* though pro'ly still others :/

You can find Agitos in Forest, Caves, and Ruins ^_^
Hmm, anyone found one in the Mines? That'd make to set =)



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Spike
Apr 8, 2001, 06:22 PM
Supposedly you can find the God Hand in Whitill V-hard Ruins from a Bulclaw.

Ukyou, my friend said he found a fake Agito from Garanz in Mines.

zanza
Apr 8, 2001, 10:04 PM
[quote]
On 2001-04-08 10:14, Mei-Lin wrote:
zanza --> I found the lavis online in V.hard ruins. My friend made the team
and he's ID is Skyly. It's in the last room before the DF. And to add
to that it's a US ship! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/icon_razz.gif

well hope that helps you http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/icon_smile.gif
Oh yeah the lavis cannon I found doesn't have any % http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/icon_frown.gif[addsig


MEI-LIN,
I'LL TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHAT YOU SAID. I'LL TRY TO LOOK FOR IT MYSELF AND SEE WHAT COMES UP.http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/icon_wink.gif
BTW: HOW MANY HRS WERE YOU ON WHEN YOU MADE THE FIND?

AK404
Apr 8, 2001, 11:01 PM
Legitimate Lavis Cannons are extremely hard to come by, and it can be thought that 90% of the LCs you come across will be duped or hacked.

Compare this to another powerful weapon - the Dragon Slayer. Everyone knows how to get this weapon consistently (just kill the Dragon on Hard or HV mode), so a lot of the DS swords out there are actually legit.

If the Spread Needles, Heaven Punishers, and Lavis Cannons of the game had an equal proportion of duped-to-legitimate items, we'd know how to find those as well. And of course, they'd have jack for trade value...