Whitils and red slimes

[Mystic_Jon]

A quick question to anyone who has bagged a cure/freeze from a whitil red slime. How many reds did you kill before you got it?

According to heyfools vhard drop chart, they should drop it at about 87% of the time. But i just killed my 3rd red, and it left me a gizonda 11 http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

[Wood_Golem]

1/1 that's my count for it http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[heyf00L]

I'm pretty sure all the rare enemies in non-Ultimate difficulties have the 87.5% rare-drop rate (the highest possible in the game) and a 100% drop-anything rate. So if you've been jipped 3 times then you're just very very unlucky. It's rare to see those rare enemies NOT drop their item. I've never seen an 87.5% rare enemy not drop their item.

[heyf00L]

A possibility is you're getting "dud" red slimes. If some of the blue slimes died while piping if/when they spawn as red they won't drop an item. Make sure none of the slimes die.

[Wood_Golem]

On 2003-12-08 11:59, heyf00L wrote:
A possibility is you're getting "dud" red slimes. If some of the blue slimes died while piping if/when they spawn as red they won't drop an item. Make sure none of the slimes die.



Yeah allways pay attention and never let a slime die.. it really pisses me off when i pipe for an hour and the red slime ends up to be one of the ones i let die ><

[Mystic_Jon]

I cant be bothered with piping after the countless hours of mil hunts so i am doing runs.

You can get 20 slimes out of TTF in about 5 minutes, roughly 200 per hour.

I guess i am just very very unlucky *sobs*

[heyf00L]

Hrm. I was doing TTF Runs for Redria Red Slimes. I stopped after I saw 3. It's probably the best way to hunt them without piping, but it's still a very slow process.

At least I leveled up like 20 times in 3 days. lol.

[Mystic_Jon]

Yeah, i was lv 66 when i started, now i'm lv 84 http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[heyf00L]

I tell you what, I'm dang good at killing Dal Ra Lei now. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif I never killed him before he hopped up on the platform the for a second time, but I got close a few times.

[Hrith]

My count is 2/2.

[chantez131313]

On 2003-12-08 11:59, heyf00L wrote:
A possibility is you're getting "dud" red slimes. If some of the blue slimes died while piping if/when they spawn as red they won't drop an item. Make sure none of the slimes die.



http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_confused.gif What??? I dont get this. Do you mean that if you kill ANY slime that you will get a fake red? I piped for a Morning Glory once with Greenill. I piped, split them all, the killed a few. When i piped back (long time later) i saw a red slime spawn. I was freaked. I was thinking "im gonna split one of these b******s and hes gonna be red!" and then i spawn one?!? Anyhow, i killed them and he dropped my Morning Glory. If you can explain what you mean any better please tell me!

[Hrith]

Yes, DO NOT KILL ANY SLIME. If they kill each other you're screwed.

[LadyRedComet]

How can that be true? When I was questing for my Cure/Slow, I killed all the blue slimes in the room before I killed the red one, and it still dropped my item...

[Wood_Golem]

On 2003-12-08 16:01, LadyRedComet wrote:
How can that be true? When I was questing for my Cure/Slow, I killed all the blue slimes in the room before I killed the red one, and it still dropped my item...


You got it wrong dude.. what we mean is:
IF any slime gets killed and you KEEP piping for a red one IF the red slime spawns OR gets divided in place of one of the ones that died THEN kiss your item Gdbye!!

[Mystic_Jon]

My 4th red just dropped a resist/burning, lol. The game is laughing at me, i can hear it. Or i might just be going ever so slightly mad... http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[-Geshtar-]

Yeah, let see here...an example


Slime that appears in cave that you want to split.

you cast rabarta and so on till you have 4 slimes now.

then lets say you accidently killed slime number 4.

well you shrug it off and pipe back to town and then back down and its one slime again.

you split it and..slime number 4 is a red slime.

well that slime will not drop anything because you killed it on the previous pipeing when it was a blue slime.

that sounds pretty simple to understand so there ya go =D.

[heyf00L]

Good way of explaining it.

It's easy to tell if your red slime is a dud. Rare enemies always drop an item, not always rare, but they'll always drop SOMETHING.
If you kill the red slime and it drops nothing, then you killed a dud.

This can also happen online. If the team leader doesn't see the red slime and someone else kills it, it won't drop anything. I'm not sure how it works if the team leader is on P2.
If the team leader sees the red slime and no one else does then that's cool. You can kill it and then to everyone else its drop will just appear out of nowhere.

[chantez131313]

But...im pretty sure i killed every, and i mean EVERY (piped for and hour), slime at least once. Especially the first one. I probably killed the first 20-30 times. And it SPAWNS to be a red and it DROPS me a Morning Glory. In other words, i killed the slime BEFORE i saw the red. I killed it over and over again. This disprove anything, or am i missing a point (which i do quite frequently)?

[heyf00L]

Had you killed it previously, it wouldn't drop anything.

[Mystic_Jon]

Todays red slime (number 5) was ever so generous, it left behind a resist/thunder!!! *sobs*

[Jazhara]

4 Freeze from 6 Slimes, so 66%. Personally of course.

[LordMe]

....................i've never seen a Red slime..............................

[Tilldawn]

if the game is laughing at u then it must be laughing uncontrolably at me 64+ pal RAPPIES!!!!! and no agito!!!

[-Geshtar-]

On 2003-12-12 07:04, LordMe wrote:
....................i've never seen a Red slime..............................




....................i've never seen a Hildetor
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[master_tails]

i got a cure/freeze the first time i saw a red slime

[Jazhara]

On 2003-12-08 12:26, heyf00L wrote:
I tell you what, I'm dang good at killing Dal Ra Lei now. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif I never killed him before he hopped up on the platform the for a second time, but I got close a few times.



Vjaya 50%AB, ES attack - dies the first time he lands on the raft. Expensive though, can only do it once in a while to show off. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

Berserk ES S-Rank sword gets close...

[Hrith]

S-RANK MECHGUN, even faster, no need for a special.