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[Sord]

Why speak leet?

[Robo47]

Because as humans we were gifted with choice, but in that we were cursed with choice.

EDIT: L = 1

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[KaFKa]

cuz n00bs think that leetspeak is how everybody thats good types, when in actuality, its usually the nubs that do it. most of the skilled people dont even bother anymore (from Cstrike)

leetspeak is boring and useless anymore, now that the little kids have adopted it as their "slang" im sure that EVENTUALLY they will let go, but im not sure when...

[Delsaber]

1 d0||7 g37 17 l337 1z 50 57|_|p1|)

[KaFKa]

that was pointless...

[alredy_taken]

I think it's pointless but I have a friend who speaks it outloud and it sounds very stupid

[Reenee]

11001001010010010010010010010010000...

100100010010010010001011101101001011...

110010010001...?

111000110010!

2! *room explodes*

[SorceressofTime]

On 2003-12-11 20:44, Reenee wrote:
11001001010010010010010010010010000...

100100010010010010001011101101001011...

110010010001...?

111000110010!

2! *room explodes*



O.o let me just go get my translator...

i have a feeling that this thread will turn into a rant thread about 1337 5p34|<. <_<

[hollowtip]

what, you guys don't like 1337 hax0rz?

I speak some 1337 for the humor factor, you guys should too, everybody looks at me like wtf are you talking about, and I just laugh.

It's especially funny when you're with a friend, because you have a conversation with some 1337 speak, and everybody looks at you funny.

[Nai_Calus]

Why sreak l337? I'm sorry, I don't understand the question. >P

[ShadowFOrce]

I also say it just for laughs. I am never serious and yes KaFKa you hear it alot from n00bs in CS mostly like this: OMG!!111 h4x0r5!!1111. But anyway anyone who speaks it just thinks it's "cool" but as it turns out it actually isn't at all

[SorceressofTime]

i don't think speaking in 1337 is cool. i just got curious one day since i saw the google site in that entire language, so then i started translating along with my friend.

i can speak it, but i do it to piss people off so they can't read what i type. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[HUnewearl_Meira]

"l33t" was originally developed by software pirates and hackers, so they could speak their minds in IRC without certain words getting caught by scanning programs that were introduced to catch certain words and incriminate people.

Now, of course, there are other things used to get around scanning programs, most notably, a technique used by Newsgroups to keep scanners from picking up e-mail addresses and such. Let's see who can figure THIS one out--

Lbh guvax y33g vf pbby? Gel fcrnxvat va EBG13!

[The_Pea_Guy]

Now this might be a stupid question, but I don't anything about this 'leet' language, so please refrain from insulting me as I am about to ask this.

What are the most common phrases you use when speaking 'leet'? Like greeting somebody, for example.

Just curious that's all.



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[KaFKa]

//4Z |_| |? !!!!1!1111!1

[The_Pea_Guy]

And 'hello' to you, too.

[HUnewearl_Meira]

On 2003-12-12 09:49, The_Pea_Guy wrote:
What are the most common phrases you use when speaking 'leet'? Like greeting somebody, for example.



If used by the people who came up with it, for the purposes that they came up with it for, then you might see things like...

"h3y, y0u s7i11 n33d Ph0t0$h0p 7?"
"1'v3 g07 3|)$M4X 5 ph0r wh03v3r w4n7z i7!"
"4u70C4D 2ooo? //hy w0u1d I w4n7 0r n33d 7h47?"
"4ny0n3 g0t 7h3 8ri7n3y $p34rz p0rn vi|)?"

There are also more complicated forms that don't really translate to PSO World's forums, for their extensive use of the expanded character set. I've seen programs for AOL that will automatically convert characters typed in a chat window into these other versions.

Now, of course, in everyday net surfing, you're more likely to see "l33t" in the following form--

"i r t3h l33t."
"n0 j00 r n0t! u r t00 st00pid t0 b3 l33t!"
"stfu, n00b. j00 d0n't 3v3n n0 w0t l33t m34nz."
"0MFG!! pwn0red!!LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!11"



[EDIT] On a side note, no one should EVER be lead to confuse internet shorthand for "l33t". And it's not pronounced, "leet", either. It's pronounced "L-eete", or "El Eet". It's a screwed up literation of "Elite," and it was originaly used only by individuals that were hardcore into hacking and piracy. They were, quite literally, Elite, hence the name of their "alphabet".

The practice of subtituting single letters for entire words is used by people who are desperately trying to type faster. In my opinion, it's atrocious to do so, and a sign of weakness of mind to make a habit out of it. I have literally smacked friends of mine upside the head, for substituting "any" with "n-e". It's plain dumb, and makes you look like you're illiterate. I will accept "j00" as an alterate spelling for "you" with an accent attached to it, and "j00r" as an alternate spelling for "your" or "you're", but "u", "ur" and "u r", are not words, by any means.

When I first started browsing the 'net, my typing skills were little better than a dimly practiced hunt and peck method, but I refused to abbreviate words, and specifically chose to punctuate as I saw necessary. Now my typing speed is quite good, and I've known myself to type considerably faster than many people I've conversed with who make use of internet shorthand.
My last thoughts on shorthand... It leads to bad habits. Turning in a research paper entitled, "The Time of Ur Life" will not score you an A. Ever. So, it makes you look dumb, and leads to bad habits that'll cost you your GPA and/or reputation. Just don't do it.

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[Mixfortune]

It would seem Meira is correct on this one.
Before it would actually be used in an intelligent manner, a sort of "code", if you will, similar in use to, say... military codes, although perhaps to a lesser extent.

As for the />vviv20/25 dialect of 1337, I use it to make fun of it, not in it's "serious"(ly moronic) extent.

Of course, that just creates a Third dialect, the "make fun of 1337" dialect, which basically over-exaggerates the fundamentals of the first and second dialect. For example, several !!11!oneonewonone1! at the end of the sentence is not ACTUALLY seen in the first and second dialects in the beginning. But then the third dialect, which satirizes earlier dialects, became adopted and embedded within the second dialect, the />wwiv20/25 version. So even the lesser version of the original version has been lessened.

Heh.

[HUnewearl_Meira]

On 2003-12-12 11:52, Mixfortune wrote:
It would seem Meira is correct on this one.
Before it would actually be used in an intelligent manner, a sort of "code", if you will, similar in use to, say... military codes, although perhaps to a lesser extent.

As for the />vviv20/25 dialect of 1337, I use it to make fun of it, not in it's "serious"(ly moronic) extent.

Of course, that just creates a Third dialect, the "make fun of 1337" dialect, which basically over-exaggerates the fundamentals of the first and second dialect. For example, several !!11!oneonewonone1! at the end of the sentence is not ACTUALLY seen in the first and second dialects in the beginning. But then the third dialect, which satirizes earlier dialects, became adopted and embedded within the second dialect, the />wwiv20/25 version. So even the lesser version of the original version has been lessened.

Heh.



Mixfortune, your avatar perfectly expresses the mood of this post. Just thought I'd say that.

[Delsaber]

On 2003-12-11 20:44, Reenee wrote:
11001001010010010010010010010010000...

100100010010010010001011101101001011...

110010010001...?

111000110010!

2! *room explodes*



Bad binary. Your binary code is not divisible by 8.

or

01000010011000010110010000100000011000100110100101
10111001100001011100100111100100101110001000000101
10010110111101110101011100100010000001100010011010
01011011100110000101110010011110010010000001100011
01101111011001000110010100100000011010010111001100
10000001101110011011110111010000100000011001000110
10010111011001101001011100110110100101100010011011
00011001010010000001100010011110010010000000111000
00101110

EDIT: I didn't do the table stretching on purpose...


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[Sord]

I don't feel like quoting so this is for Meria:

Well, at least you know your history. It was used for hackers at first, but then it spread into game circles. Has anyone ever seen the oldinternet games. They where all text, basically like some kind of online D&D. My uncle plays one. I know leet also developed in those, not just hacking. Then soon after leet made a big hit in gaming circles hackers stopped using it because there were translations everywhere.

[Mixfortune]

Delsaber, please don't stretch the forum tables.

[HUnewearl_Meira]

On 2003-12-12 13:30, Sord wrote:
I don't feel like quoting so this is for Meria:

Well, at least you know your history. It was used for hackers at first, but then it spread into game circles. Has anyone ever seen the oldinternet games. They where all text, basically like some kind of online D&D. My uncle plays one. I know leet also developed in those, not just hacking. Then soon after leet made a big hit in gaming circles hackers stopped using it because there were translations everywhere.



MUD. Multi-User Dungeon. A buddy of mine started out
to make one of those, once. We had short attention
spans though, and despite having the source code for
the task, we just couldn't be bothered to build the
world to travel, even with the nifty tools that we
had been provided with.

There are other versions of the acronym, too.

[Solstis]

1eet is the equivilant of pig latin.

[Bill]

[]D [] []/[] []D

http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 1337

[JohanCC]

The only time I ever speak "1337" is when I'm trying to confuse my friend when we're on aim. I also use engrish and Japanese too.

[Aunt_Betty]

On 2003-12-12 14:46, HUnewearl_Meira wrote:


On 2003-12-12 13:30, Sord wrote:
I don't feel like quoting so this is for Meria:

Well, at least you know your history. It was used for hackers at first, but then it spread into game circles. Has anyone ever seen the oldinternet games. They where all text, basically like some kind of online D&D. My uncle plays one. I know leet also developed in those, not just hacking. Then soon after leet made a big hit in gaming circles hackers stopped using it because there were translations everywhere.



MUD. Multi-User Dungeon. A buddy of mine started out
to make one of those, once. We had short attention
spans though, and despite having the source code for
the task, we just couldn't be bothered to build the
world to travel, even with the nifty tools that we
had been provided with.

There are other versions of the acronym, too.

Heh. I need to play a MUD somedya...

[Mixfortune]

Well, getting off topic...
I enjoy MUDs, and am currently been playing a certain one for over 4 years *cough*... Needless to say I eventually got to be a staff member there. It's pretty fun, although it's always weird when you're telling newer generation players "just how good they have it"...

Darn whipper-snappers!

[hollowtip]

On 2003-12-12 08:47, HUnewearl_Meira wrote:
"l33t" was originally developed by software pirates and hackers, so they could speak their minds in IRC without certain words getting caught by scanning programs that were introduced to catch certain words and incriminate people.

Now, of course, there are other things used to get around scanning programs, most notably, a technique used by Newsgroups to keep scanners from picking up e-mail addresses and such. Let's see who can figure THIS one out--

Lbh guvax y33g vf pbby? Gel fcrnxvat va EBG13!



Well you might be partially right about where "l33t" speak came from, but the original and true 1337 (spelled with only numbers) originated from a hacking program that used the port UDP port 31337 to access Windows 95 Back Orfice used by the Dead Cow Cult.

[Sord]

On 2003-12-13 17:54, hollowtip wrote:


On 2003-12-12 08:47, HUnewearl_Meira wrote:
"l33t" was originally developed by software pirates and hackers, so they could speak their minds in IRC without certain words getting caught by scanning programs that were introduced to catch certain words and incriminate people.

Now, of course, there are other things used to get around scanning programs, most notably, a technique used by Newsgroups to keep scanners from picking up e-mail addresses and such. Let's see who can figure THIS one out--

Lbh guvax y33g vf pbby? Gel fcrnxvat va EBG13!



Well you might be partially right about where "l33t" speak came from, but the original and true 1337 (spelled with only numbers) originated from a hacking program that used the port UDP port 31337 to access Windows 95 Back Orfice used by the Dead Cow Cult.


the Dead Cow Cult??? there's a new one.

[hollowtip]

On 2003-12-13 18:02, Sord wrote:



the Dead Cow Cult??? there's a new one.



They were a notorious hacking group, and no it's not a new one. Anyone that has ever been in the hacking scene would tell you the same thing.



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