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Zinger314
Dec 21, 2003, 01:18 AM
Would a lower-level Shifta/Deband overwrite a higher-level Shifta/Deband? Because I can already cast a high S/D, and If I get a mag that casts S/D, chances are the Mag's S/D will be weaker than mine.
joluh
Dec 21, 2003, 01:22 AM
Nope, the higher S/D will stay or overwrite over the weak one, even on Mags

Or at least that's what has happened to me
JohanCC
Dec 21, 2003, 01:38 AM
There are no overwrites of S/D/J/Z unless the tech overwriting is stronger.
CGoodness
Dec 21, 2003, 09:35 AM
How can you tell what level S/D/J/Z was casted?
Zinger314
Dec 21, 2003, 10:53 AM
On 2003-12-21 06:35, CGoodness wrote:
How can you tell what level S/D/J/Z was casted?

I presume it's about a lv. 15 S/D, I'm not really sure...
CGoodness
Dec 21, 2003, 09:13 PM
On 2003-12-21 07:53, Zinger314 wrote:


On 2003-12-21 06:35, CGoodness wrote:
How can you tell what level S/D/J/Z was casted?

I presume it's about a lv. 15 S/D, I'm not really sure...



Ok... but how can you TELL?
Black000Moon
Dec 21, 2003, 09:23 PM
probably how long it lasts?i dunno good idea people should test that have some one cast like shifta level 1-30 (of course ull need more than one person to do it not unless that person is a high level with only lvl 1 techs and has techs 1-30 with him) then someone gets a stopwatch and times how long each spell is.
ilr2000
Dec 22, 2003, 12:48 AM
You can never get an exact number unless you freakishly have your base ATP memorized, take off all your equipment, do some math, and figure out the % increase... then find the matching Shifta level on some chart that may not even exist. Best way to know is to ask the caster. Really.
PaleKid15
Dec 22, 2003, 11:15 AM
You could compare the stat increases of the S/D to others. If you are referring to how to determine the S/D level of mag abilities, look around on this site. It's there.
Vejita
Dec 23, 2003, 11:21 AM
why even care that much? figuring it out would just be wasting the time that it's on you. and if you're that curious the undisputed quickest way would just be to ask the caster.
Da_Wrecka
Dec 25, 2003, 04:43 PM
On 2003-12-20 22:38, JohanCC wrote:
There are no overwrites of S/D/J/Z unless the tech overwriting is stronger.


Technically correct, but it's worth noting that in v1/2, it wouldn't matter what the levels were, L1 Shifta would overwrite L30 Shifta and L1 Zalure would overwrite L30 Deband.
Delsaber
Dec 27, 2003, 03:18 AM
Da_Wrecka:
"L1 Zalure would overwrite L30 Deband."

Zalure overwrites Deband?

are you talking about if an enemy has L30 Deband and you cast L1 Zalure on it?
anwserman
Dec 27, 2003, 12:46 PM
He's talking about version 1 and 2 of PSO on the Dreamcast... those rules don't apply to PSO GC/X.
JohanCC
Dec 27, 2003, 07:55 PM
Zalure can overwrite deband. Let's say 2 people are in BA mode. One casts lvl 1 deband. The other comes over and casts lv 2 zalure on them. Since the zalure is stronger in this case, it'd overwrite the deband. The same goes for shifta/jellen.

In the DC ver, S/D/J/Z would overwrite no matter what level.