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Robo47
Dec 21, 2003, 08:09 PM
What weapon do you think is the most powerful out of all the weapons? I'd say God Hand, equipable by all and decent stat bonus'.

discuss

AuronAU
Dec 21, 2003, 08:13 PM
How bout no......

Robo47
Dec 21, 2003, 08:26 PM
Aww you poor thing, refer to my sig for details.

FlameGuard
Dec 21, 2003, 08:26 PM
There is really no best weapon just use your favorite.



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Genoa
Dec 21, 2003, 08:29 PM
I have God Hand... but I wouldn't say its the most powerfull. Usually the best weapons are ones that hit more than 3 times. But some people look at ATP instead of the uniqueness in battle. Example: Would you rather have Durandal or Musashi ? Some might say Durandal because it's more powerfull. But in the end what does more damage? I have to say the best overall weapon varies on what your character is. My FOmar uses God Hand & Soul Banish. He is awesome in melee and magic.

soccerdudegy
Dec 21, 2003, 08:37 PM
It is not the god hand because I have one and I don't use it.

soccerdudegy
Dec 21, 2003, 08:37 PM
Also, I forgot to mention this: IMO there is no best weapon, and you could never win an arguement that one is the best, some one will always disagree.

Genoa
Dec 21, 2003, 08:42 PM
I would definately ! I don't like the Lavis Weapons, Heaven Punisher (can only be used every 100 beats...), Psycho Wand takes HP (though a 50% TP cut is good). I'm hunting for Holy Ray. I say that there are many best weapons. It also depends on the situation. If you have access to a high-lvl. shifta, mechguns are good because it powers each bullet of the shot, not just the total damage. (probably didn't understand it but someone knows what I mean). (btw, i'm on the never-ending quest to get Holy Ray from Sil Dragon)

Black000Moon
Dec 21, 2003, 09:34 PM
dont know im thinking a wep that any class can use twin chakram (i think everyclass can use this im to lazy to check) other than that idk.....but for a certain class over all best...bkb....

excecutor
Dec 21, 2003, 09:36 PM
Megaman, this is a little off topic, but I just got my 2nd holy ray off of sil dragon. How many runs are you on? I got mine on my 47th run......

Zarana
Dec 21, 2003, 09:38 PM
The Spread Needle is probably the best weapon in the game, and concrete proof that a high ATP rating is hardly the only thing you should look out for.

excecutor
Dec 21, 2003, 09:40 PM
spread needle the best weapon? Yeah probably, but not for ranged or single fights, like dark falz. Then a good rifle for the final form, and mechs for close up single battles is best.

Zarana
Dec 21, 2003, 09:48 PM
I mean overall. You can bring it with to every area and use it effectively 90% of the time.

... Also, I'd just use the Yasminkov 9000 on Falz and eliminate the need for a Rifle completely, but that's just me.

Jason
Dec 21, 2003, 09:57 PM
I would say the Lavis weapons.

excecutor
Dec 21, 2003, 09:58 PM
Yeah, yas9000 would cover it for everything. Didnt think of that beings I never found one. Yeah those two weapons would be the best IMO. Thanks zerana for correcting me.

shinto_kuji
Dec 21, 2003, 10:00 PM
uhm, there is no "best" weapon. there just isn't. 90% of people will say the strongest weapon for their particular class. the other 10% will agree with me that there is no "best" weapon. even if you had a bkb with 100A 100D 100H it wouldn't be the "best" weapon. there is no single weapon in the game that can handle every situation effectively. i can already see some flames/heated arguments over this thread. -goes and eats some ice cream-



...-gets a brainfreeze- ^o^

Jason
Dec 21, 2003, 10:06 PM
Of course there's no "best" weapon. I just stated my opinion.

Hrith
Dec 22, 2003, 12:02 PM
Are you sure Forces can use GOD HAND, anyway, FOnewearl cannot, obviously.

I agree with Shinto_kuji

Edit : mispelled "Shinto_kuji" >_<

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MaxBuster
Dec 22, 2003, 12:14 PM
FOnewn can't equip GOD HAND either, but it's not THAT good of a weapon anyway. The best "weapon" is the MAG, cause that's the only thing I equip all the time.

ilr2000
Dec 22, 2003, 01:30 PM
That "It-hits-more-than-three-times-it-must-be-better" line is getting old. Yeah it hits three times, but it hits those three times really fast. When in seabeds, I drop sinows faster with my HoP than with my Demolition Comet. And I'd rather take on Deldepths with a three strike weapon than a weaker combo weapon.

SpyroDi
Dec 22, 2003, 01:37 PM
Forces can't use God Hand,I'm not sure what the other guys are talking about.

Personally,I think the best weapon is your brain. *shot for being too technical*

PaleKid15
Dec 22, 2003, 01:49 PM
This thread is so pointless.

Weapons are too situational. You have to take into account:class,stats on weapon,stats on character,number of targets,number of hits,speed of combo, special attacks, special abilities (like rifle range mechs, faster animation gloves), percents on weapon, range, resistance of enemies,etc...

If you want opinions, this should be a "What's your FAVORITE weapon" thread. But, that has been done many times so just forum search and read what people wrote.

Butoden
Dec 22, 2003, 02:00 PM
It's just people's oppinions that matter, I use Yamato and Double Saber all the time, but I do most damage with a Repeater! But I dislike it's slowness after the animation, not that I can't handle it, but others would disagree... @_@;

MaxBuster
Dec 22, 2003, 02:59 PM
PaleKid's right, weapons are situational. Just imagine using GOD HAND to fight Falz's 3rd form or Barba Ray...not a smart move. I'm still sticking with my MAG.

Jason
Dec 22, 2003, 04:36 PM
On 2003-12-22 11:59, MaxBuster wrote:
PaleKid's right, weapons are situational. Just imagine using GOD HAND to fight Falz's 3rd form or Barba Ray...not a smart move. I'm still sticking with my MAG.


Well, using a MAG alone to fight Falz's 3rd form is also not a smart move unless you use some sweet magic.

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Genoa
Dec 22, 2003, 04:39 PM
On 2003-12-21 18:36, excecutor wrote:
Megaman, this is a little off topic, but I just got my 2nd holy ray off of sil dragon. How many runs are you on? I got mine on my 47th run......



well, I started looking for it at lvl. 72, and i'm at 103 now. All forest runs. I don't know... alot ?!

Butoden
Dec 22, 2003, 04:41 PM
Eek! That long?? That's too long http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif Well, as long as you enjoy doing that then that's what you do http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif

shinto_kuji
Dec 22, 2003, 10:27 PM
-goes off topic- can't believe its taking people so long to find holy ray=o my friend got one like every 5 sils or so. -goes farther off topic- he found one with 50H on it =O

Genoa
Dec 22, 2003, 10:35 PM
Yeah, you know whats pissin me off even more. I made a HUcaseal today. And she got to hard. I made her kill the dragon twice. Both times she got Musashi. But no, I can't get 1 HOLY RAY !!! (also have gotten 5 Yamato's from vhard dragon, and 2 other musashi's with someone else) I guess Sil Dragon is just a being greedy.

Skuda
Dec 22, 2003, 10:53 PM
I'd say MY best weapon is my beloved Double Cannon. Although I do have a tsumikiri J-sword, I like my double cannon more 1) it does more damage in a full combo 2)It has higher percents 3) It took me 23 days to find my two syncesta and 15 days to find my Lavis cannon. Hunters gotta love their twins and sword!

Delsaber
Dec 23, 2003, 01:33 AM
I have 5 Holy Rays now.. one from Greennill Dal Ra Lie and four from Yellowboze Dal Ra Lie..

I found three back to back to back by doing Unsealed door runs with my Yellowboze HUmar.

anwserman
Dec 23, 2003, 02:06 AM
I'd have to say a slicer-type weapon.... ANY class can equip a slicer-type weapon (sans special case Slicer of Assassin), but they are longer-range, hit up to four targets per step in a combo.

I personally think its the "spread" type weapon for forces and hunters. Sure hunters could use long-swords but you have to get up-close and personal to attack, not with a slicer. Its probably the best (and only) multiple-enemy hit weapon for forces. Its ATP is low and its ATA is low, too... but with my store-bought Sawcers, I've grinded them up to max and bought them with 50% hit, and I've had minimal problems hitting only bosses.... Olga and Falz to be correct (because I have more pressing things such as xxx/HP or Resist/Blizzard to equip then an Elf/Arm++). And even ATP is low, I see it as this (assuming not a single MISS).

Strong Saber; one enemy, three combo. 400x1x3=1200.
Strong Sawcer; four enemies, three combo: 250x4x3=3000.

I rest my case. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

anwserman
Dec 23, 2003, 02:10 AM
On 2003-12-22 23:06, anwserman wrote:
I'd have to say a slicer-type weapon.... ANY class can equip a slicer-type weapon (sans special case Slicer of Assassin), but they are longer-range, hit up to four targets per step in a combo.

I personally think its the "spread" type weapon for forces and hunters. Sure hunters could use long-swords but you have to get up-close and personal to attack, not with a slicer. Its probably the best (and only) multiple-enemy hit weapon for forces. Its ATP is low and its ATA is low, too... but with my store-bought Sawcers, I've grinded them up to max and bought them with 50% hit, and I've had minimal problems hitting only bosses.... Olga and Falz to be correct (because I have more pressing things such as xxx/HP or Resist/Blizzard to equip then an Elf/Arm++.. and this is with a melee Force now). And even ATP is low, I see it as this (assuming not a single MISS).

Strong Saber; one enemy, three combo. 400x1x3=1200.
Strong Sawcer; four enemies, three combo: 250x4x3=3000.

I rest my case. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif However, this goes for mostly enemies in groups, bring a saber or a powerful single-enemy weapon when you're facing only one enemy or so. Then the slicers kinda lose their coolness, and mechguns start to kick ass. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

EDIT: Some additional information

Armok
Dec 23, 2003, 07:43 AM
I would say the Vulcan is the best weopon because

A, All classes can use it effectivily
B, Its easy to find/buy one with hit and a good spec
C, It hits 9 times

Oh but on specialist weoponary

Ra best Spread Needle/Yam 9000M(range outweights pow)
HU best BKB/TJ sword
Fo Best depends wat techiques use

Genoa
Dec 23, 2003, 01:20 PM
That's true. I'm using Riot Repeaters +9 (45 a.beast & hit) with my FOmar. It's a great weapon for all classes. Hunters because they have good ATP, Rangers because they have the ATA to hit, and Forces because of Shifta/Zalure.

FOmarl_Kerry
Dec 31, 2003, 01:02 PM
when it comes to the Dark Falz most people say "all you need is a good rifle." but all i say is "good zonde, any grants and GRANTS GRANTS GRANTS" if u cant use grants ya a gun is good. as for the best weapon ummm there isnt 1 every weapon has its advantages and disadvantages. yes there are some weaps that are better (eg. Yamato is Better than Mushashi) but as 4 the best there isnt 1