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Garanz2
Feb 9, 2004, 05:59 PM
We all know how badly the last few group fics have turned out. Dying after three or four pages. Don't get me wrong, group fics are great to write and participate in, but only when done well.

The two major high points of group fiction were probably 'Slums of Pioneer Two' and 'PSOW Summer vacation'. I'll find links later. They were successful and fun because although they were humorous, they had a serious underside. Especially slums. In recent group fics, everyone has been trying to be funny all the time, while forgetting the most important part of any story; A plot.

Imagine a writer is a god that does things for it's own amusement. It creates a creature/story by adding the funniest parts it can find. But the creature then dies because the God has forgotten something vital. It's an extreme analogy, but I'm not in a brilliant mood right now.

It's been a while since we last had a good groupfic in fan works, and I personally want to see them return. If all the group fic regulars like BOC, Zi'zuku, Mr_Rubbish, Wolf_Nasca and so on got together to turn over a new groupfic leaf as it were, we could make another story of slums proportions.

So, down to business. Anyone got any ideas for a group fic setting?

M_BlackHawk
Feb 9, 2004, 06:04 PM
While I didn't participate in "Slums" and had limited participation in "Summer Vacation", I can remember 3 great group fics I did participate in, with KodiaX987, Moo2u, and Hikosaka, the "Endless Song Trilogy".

If you all would be so kind as to allow it, I'd be glad to add my own little spin to a new group fic, just for fun.

later

M_BlackHawk

Garanz2
Feb 9, 2004, 06:07 PM
http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=63759&forum=12

That's the slums.

mr_rubbish
Feb 9, 2004, 06:11 PM
i'm up for anything, though any kind of 'vaction' fic is probably on shakey (sic?) ground. people will wonder why it didn't turn out like the summer vaction one etc.
although having said that i don't know what happened to the christmas party fic after Boc tried to deliver presents to dark falz....

PS my suggestion is a hunter high school type thing...

Garanz2
Feb 9, 2004, 06:16 PM
The christmas fic was OK actually, but only borderline. And yeah, seasonal fics can be dodgy. Nol turning out to be a cultist saved summer vacation's bacon bigtime http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

Robo47
Feb 9, 2004, 06:18 PM
Shoot, after Jaks' went flip flop I gues I'm up for a really good group fic, and hopefully we get decent writers that wont say two or three lines and stop...

My suggestion is


'Newearls Gone Wild!:
Endless Spring Break!

j/k

maybe a something about ep3?

Garanz2
Feb 9, 2004, 06:24 PM
On 2004-02-09 15:18, Robo47 wrote:
Shoot, after Jaks' went flip flop I gues I'm up for a really good group fic, and hopefully we get decent writers that wont say two or three lines and stop...

My suggestion is


'Newearls Gone Wild!:
Endless Spring Break!

j/k

maybe a something about ep3?



'Newearls gone wild? Why not? We can make the plot as outlaandish and silly as we like, as long as we keep it intact and keep the fic serious enough to be continued.

I'd be up for an ep3 fic if I had the game, but still hasn't been released in Europe. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

Robo47
Feb 9, 2004, 06:29 PM
On 2004-02-09 15:24, Garanz2 wrote:


On 2004-02-09 15:18, Robo47 wrote:
Shoot, after Jaks' went flip flop I gues I'm up for a really good group fic, and hopefully we get decent writers that wont say two or three lines and stop...

My suggestion is


'Newearls Gone Wild!:
Endless Spring Break!

j/k

maybe a something about ep3?



'Newearls gone wild? Why not? We can make the plot as outlaandish and silly as we like, as long as we keep it intact and keep the fic serious enough to be continued.

I'd be up for an ep3 fic if I had the game, but still hasn't been released in Europe. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif



You are aware that 'Girls Gone Wild' is a series that has nothing but teenage girls flashing something, right?

Garanz2
Feb 9, 2004, 06:36 PM
Yup. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

You know what I mean.

Robo47
Feb 9, 2004, 06:42 PM
.......

Lets move on shall we? We don't want a mod locking this!

New suggestion:

Caves of Gal Da Val?

-Z
Feb 9, 2004, 06:43 PM
i'm game. we really do need a good groupfic going. unfortunately, i have no idea for a plot. sorry http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif


ya think Musashi_D is still around? ^_^

Robo47
Feb 9, 2004, 06:45 PM
Anyone remember my Tundra fic?

Maybe we revisit it in a different fashion?



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MQuantum
Feb 9, 2004, 07:06 PM
I would love to join a groupie piece like the slums again. Seems like I really lucked out choosing that one to begin with.

*sigh* Not to be nostalgic or anything, but... The good ole days...

I personally have no ideas for a plot, but since the issue is up in the air, I'll think about it.

White_Knight
Feb 9, 2004, 07:48 PM
*thinking* Hmmmmmmm..........plot line. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

*speach* nothing I'll get back to it after I'm done with a few personal things I have to take care of.

Zzzzzz
Feb 9, 2004, 07:56 PM
On 2004-02-09 15:04, M_BlackHawk wrote:
While I didn't participate in "Slums" and had limited participation in "Summer Vacation", I can remember 3 great group fics I did participate in, with KodiaX987, Moo2u, and Hikosaka, the "Endless Song Trilogy".

If you all would be so kind as to allow it, I'd be glad to add my own little spin to a new group fic, just for fun.

later

M_BlackHawk




That was a great fic. It seemed like one person wrote the whole story from several different persectives. I probably won't particpate (don't want to ruin the fic, you know http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif), but how about you start out in a valentine's setting? http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

Solstis
Feb 9, 2004, 08:03 PM
On 2004-02-09 16:56, Zzzzzz wrote:


On 2004-02-09 15:04, M_BlackHawk wrote:
While I didn't participate in "Slums" and had limited participation in "Summer Vacation", I can remember 3 great group fics I did participate in, with KodiaX987, Moo2u, and Hikosaka, the "Endless Song Trilogy".

If you all would be so kind as to allow it, I'd be glad to add my own little spin to a new group fic, just for fun.

later

M_BlackHawk




That was a great fic. It seemed like one person wrote the whole story from several different persectives. I probably won't particpate (don't want to ruin the fic, you know http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif), but how about you start out in a valentine's setting? http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif



With delsabers handing out fluffy, pink hearts.

Zzzzzz
Feb 9, 2004, 08:06 PM
Soltis wrote:
With delsabers handing out fluffy, pink hearts.

Only if they have puffy chocolate inside. That, and -Z doesn't steal them all.

Sord
Feb 9, 2004, 08:33 PM
On 2004-02-09 15:18, Robo47 wrote:
My suggestion is


'Newearls Gone Wild!:
Endless Spring Break!

Can I participate?! Though you might get locked on my first post, lol.

Anyways, a storyline...what hasen't been made yet for crying out loud! I mean, sure, we could gather all the old group ficers and make their characters into some squad that has to defeat yet another D-cell abomination. Wait a second, that's it! A giant mutated rappy (not the del rappy) is terrorizing people on Ragol! It shall be called, "OMG IT'S A FRIGGEN GIANT RAPPY!" Godzilla style *que really loud, and long, pIi*

"PIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII"

Robo47
Feb 9, 2004, 08:40 PM
On 2004-02-09 17:33, Sord wrote:


On 2004-02-09 15:18, Robo47 wrote:
My suggestion is


'Newearls Gone Wild!:
Endless Spring Break!

Can I participate?! Though you might get locked on my first post, lol.

Anyways, a storyline...what hasen't been made yet for crying out loud! I mean, sure, we could gather all the old group ficers and make their characters into some squad that has to defeat yet another D-cell abomination. Wait a second, that's it! A giant mutated rappy (not the del rappy) is terrorizing people on Ragol! It shall be called, "OMG IT'S A FRIGGEN GIANT RAPPY!" Godzilla style *que really loud, and long, pIi*

"PIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII"



Nope.

Lone_Wolf_Nasca
Feb 9, 2004, 08:45 PM
Hey ^_^ !! Im up for any group-fic !! As soon as someone starts something please drop me a PM or two ^_^ !! If I get an idea I will make sure to drop a post around here.

Sord
Feb 9, 2004, 08:46 PM
On 2004-02-09 17:40, Robo47 wrote:


On 2004-02-09 17:33, Sord wrote:


On 2004-02-09 15:18, Robo47 wrote:
My suggestion is


'Newearls Gone Wild!:
Endless Spring Break!

Can I participate?! Though you might get locked on my first post, lol.

Anyways, a storyline...what hasen't been made yet for crying out loud! I mean, sure, we could gather all the old group ficers and make their characters into some squad that has to defeat yet another D-cell abomination. Wait a second, that's it! A giant mutated rappy (not the del rappy) is terrorizing people on Ragol! It shall be called, "OMG IT'S A FRIGGEN GIANT RAPPY!" Godzilla style *que really loud, and long, pIi*

"PIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII"



Nope.


fow which one, the fic or the plot (i don't really want to participate in either, I don't like doin group fics, even though i've only done 2)

Lone_Wolf_Nasca
Feb 9, 2004, 09:15 PM
Actually, Sord, you should participate in this future group-fic ^_^ !! Your craziness and complete randomness would make a great element for any group-fic (as long as you dont pull a Neoluke potion on a group-fic you will be fine ^_^ ).

Solstis
Feb 9, 2004, 09:18 PM
How about a ficcie involving lanconium pots?

KodiaX987
Feb 9, 2004, 09:24 PM
Righty-o. I think I'll put down a good old ST suggestion and part of my fic trademark:


Department Twisted

Interpret as you will.

Lone_Wolf_Nasca
Feb 9, 2004, 09:28 PM
Department Twisted

Eh ?

Kadou
Feb 9, 2004, 09:57 PM
Maybe something pre-Pioneer Project on Coral? Or maybe it can take place in/around Central Dome before/during P2's arrival?

Solstis
Feb 9, 2004, 10:15 PM
On 2004-02-09 18:57, Kadou wrote:
Maybe something pre-Pioneer Project on Coral? Or maybe it can take place in/around Central Dome before/during P2's arrival?



That would be dreadfully serious.

Robo47
Feb 9, 2004, 10:24 PM
Omigod! A hunter group that worked partime in a circus trying to make ends meet! Funny and Serious!

Ferious?

KodiaX987
Feb 9, 2004, 10:28 PM
On 2004-02-09 18:28, Lone_Wolf_Nasca wrote:

Eh ?



I repeat: interpret as you will, dammit!! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Sharkyland
Feb 9, 2004, 10:30 PM
If you want to do Pre-Pioneer stuff, you should see that 'Sticky' topic on the top. I can help with storyline if you wish. I already know what to draw story-wise for my comic.

Zzzzzz
Feb 9, 2004, 11:02 PM
Department Twisted


A messed-up deparment store!

Robo47
Feb 9, 2004, 11:17 PM
Where Shurikane is the boss and if we mess up we get "elimated" on live TV!

Skuda
Feb 9, 2004, 11:35 PM
I'd end up driving the customers away with my unorthadox methods! would we get paid? not meseta please!!!

shinto_kuji
Feb 10, 2004, 12:13 AM
The League of Extraordinary Hunters, or something like that. Get about 8 people or so with each taking on the role of one of the more recognizable characters in pso. Calus, Dr. Osto, Rico, Flowen, Donoph, and whoever else comes to mind.

How they're actually all alive and together is another story ^.-

Or some other ideas could be something of an android rebellion, the obvious choice of a Valentine fic, or a coming of spring fic.

Not too sure what the last one would be, but meh.

MQuantum
Feb 10, 2004, 08:06 AM
We ought to do a fic all about a Neoluke potion... http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

It was always so much fun to see what might just happen when those two words were to close together...

It could be seriously written about frivolous stuff. (Isn't that a farce or something? Can't remember...")

Or LXH! I could be MOME! *plays dead as things are thrown at me* Thought that would limit the amout of participators, unless there were some who want to be baddies... *looks for Zi*

Garanz2
Feb 10, 2004, 08:41 AM
Hmm...some interesting ideas. Good to see some of the big boys like KodiaX and Blackhawk getting in on it too *Bows humbly* http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

Maybe we could do this one in a completely serious setting. I've read that groupfic (can't remember the name) that KodiaX and co did, and it's really very good. Art too http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

Deathscythealpha
Feb 10, 2004, 10:13 AM
I think Group Fics have been becoming stale of late cause we are always sticking to the same theme (and i know im guilty of this too). Last year was fun with the Vacation Fic series (well, except Halloween, but we wont talk about that), but now we should move onto a new theme.

There are plenty of Fan Fic worlds out there to explore. Kodiak Insa populated PSO world is one of them, and my new fan fic has just started off in a post crashed Pioneer 2 world (a world where people have split into two view points and theres alot of tension going on between the two). Maybe if we tried exploring one of these worlds we could get a good Group Fic rolling.

I think we also have to get some rules running on these fics. Ive always been putting slight rules and the beggining of mine to keep the thing going and not turning into something stupid, but ive noticed alot of peeps dont, letting the fic come to a slow crawl of spam and silliness. So a set of rules will help keep some boundries and intelligence in these group fics.

And now that ive blabbered on like that, i have no idea at all for a group fic http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif Myabe i can think of something later.

KodiaX987
Feb 10, 2004, 10:54 AM
Looks like the original group fic thread got nuked... Anyways, here is a sample of the rules I had set up for it.

1) A maximum of six main characters. Each author must reserve his spot prior to commencing the story. There will thus be me and five other authors, each having control of one character. You may not take control over other characters unless common sense says otherwise - for example, if you tackle someone from behind, chances are he'll fall down. If at one point a character drops out of the story, another author may request to join in. If we're quite far in though, I may say no one may join.

2) Comments are in bold. This helps to know what is story, and what is comments.

3) If two authors post at the same time, first post has priority. If you realize two people posted at the same time and thus made some things sound nonsensical, try to tie things back together as you can when you post. If you don't think that's possible, the post that appeared first on the list is the one you take as story material and the other post is disregarded. State if you disregard a post.

4) Villains and non-author characters are free to control at will. Of course, we'll run into some people like shop operators, taxi drivers and other stuff - I mean, we're not alone on this planet! Villains, since they're quite simple to portray, are controlled by all the authors.



That's about it, basically... The thing that made our story work back then was that we proceeded along the plot with caution, this way everyone was able to add his or her grain of salt and mold the stuff to their liking as posts went on.

Lone_Wolf_Nasca
Feb 10, 2004, 11:16 AM
reads*
I like these rules Kodiax987 ^_^ !! If a new group-fic is about to start...I want to reserve a space for myself !! I will PM -Z so that he can reserve his space as well !!

KodiaX987
Feb 10, 2004, 11:19 AM
Better to make requests public - this way no one will feel cheated out.

Sagasu
Feb 10, 2004, 12:23 PM
On 2004-02-10 05:06, MQuantum wrote:
We ought to do a fic all about a Neoluke potion... http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

It was always so much fun to see what might just happen when those two words were to close together...





Your talking the end of the world there. Just one of those damned potions is enough to kill a group fic. If a topic is ever decided upon, I too would like to be able to participate.

If the notion upon the semi-serious ficcie gets upheld I think I should be able to come up with some more or less involving story lines. I doubt I'm that well known amongst you group fic fanatics but I should be able to add some variety to the story.

PM me if anything becomes concrete http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif

Hikara
Feb 10, 2004, 12:45 PM
Wait, I've got it!

AN after academy group that meets every day after class and complains about stupid school, and their dreams for the future, etc. etc.!

Or maybe not, but it seemed like a good idea at the time.

But I want to come, too! I don't have a fic to write anymore!

Garanz2
Feb 10, 2004, 01:08 PM
Yeah, I'd like to reserve a place too. Those rules make a lot of sense as well Kodi. Personally, I think basing it on the Insa world would be a good idea. Maybe set after the armageddrive nightmare? It would open the way for some interesting plot and character developments. OK, I'm an insa fanboy (Read 'em all twice! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif) But nobody else seems to have thought of much yet.

Deathscythealpha
Feb 10, 2004, 01:09 PM
I like Kodiak's rules, but the group limitation sounds like it will put off alot of other users. It will be a mad rush to get to the main 6 charcater roles, and people will feel left out, espcially if their in other time zones and didnt have a chance to post in time. But then again, i remember my DH2 Group Fic only had about 5-6 people posting on it and it turned into a good group fic. Hmm, just have to see what happens when the new group fic comes around.

Doh, had another thing to say on this, but its totally left my mind now. Hopefully ill remember it later.

M_BlackHawk
Feb 10, 2004, 01:20 PM
I'm going to go ahead and reserve a space for myself..and depending on the situation, I'll either use one of my existing characters, or create a whole new one.

later

M_BlackHawk

mr_rubbish
Feb 10, 2004, 01:49 PM
Personally I don't agree with a cap on the number of major characters, it feels to restrictive, and in my opinion major characters are determined by their role in a story not because someone says "My character is a major one!" However...

Just incase, I also want to reserve a room at the Hotel Group-fic.

In the meantime I've cobbled together a little group-fic (http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=75732&forum=12&1) to run parallel to this one (assuming other people will be bothered to join ^-^).

KodiaX987
Feb 10, 2004, 01:52 PM
What the hell, me too! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif

mr_rubbish
Feb 10, 2004, 01:56 PM
PS Who will be the deciding authority over this fic (i.e. over major character slot reservations, title plot, thread creation)?

I assume its Garanz but some confirmation would be nice.

Garanz2
Feb 10, 2004, 02:12 PM
I thought KodiaX was taking control but if you want me in charge I've got no probs with it. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

KodiaX987
Feb 10, 2004, 02:49 PM
Depends where we go with which fics. I think it's better to say who would prefer to control what, if any, and then we'll make our own separate group-fic threads accordingly.

-Z
Feb 10, 2004, 04:44 PM
i just got a PM from nasca sating that i need to reserve a place here for an upcoming fic. well, here i am ^_^

*makes reservation for self ^_^*

Sord
Feb 10, 2004, 05:11 PM
err, if there is a slot left, I'll join.

MQuantum
Feb 10, 2004, 06:11 PM
*Looks at long line clamoring to be in controlled groupiefic*

I think I'm too late... Just tack me on the end of the waiting list and contact me if the other 76 people decide to not participate or other unusual circumstance works in my favor... http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

Solstis
Feb 10, 2004, 06:23 PM
Can I be the guy that dies in the beginning?

I kinda didn't notice this thread was getting longer.

-Z
Feb 10, 2004, 07:42 PM
i'm awlays happy to satisfy a death wish ^_^...

Zzzzzz
Feb 10, 2004, 09:43 PM
On 2004-02-10 16:42, -Z wrote:
i'm awlays happy to satisfy a death wish ^_^...



PICK ME!

Solstis
Feb 10, 2004, 10:23 PM
On 2004-02-10 18:43, Zzzzzz wrote:


On 2004-02-10 16:42, -Z wrote:
i'm awlays happy to satisfy a death wish ^_^...



PICK ME!



Maybe I could trip over a rock and fall off the forest 1 cliff http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif.

Zzzzzz
Feb 10, 2004, 10:33 PM
Uh, wait, I gotta check Zonky....
the newman is still alive!! We can kill him!!

mr_rubbish
Feb 11, 2004, 02:08 PM
I have thought of another rule that could be tacked onto KodiaX's list. Its one that I keep wanting to implement in my own group fictions except I keep forgetting or I lack the spine http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

5) No power without consequences. What this means is that you can't have ultra powerful/near invincible characters without reason. Frequently I see people whose character could do a forest to ruins run and the only problem they would have would be washing the bloodstains off afterwards. When only a Boss would be capable of making them break into a sweat its very hard to come up with a decent challenge that their 'god-like' abilities couldn't conquer in just a few minutes.

Does it sound like I'm vetting my spleen here? Maybe, but IMO it hurts any story it happens in....

I've forgotten my point... Ah yes... Just say no to powerful characters!

Sagasu
Feb 11, 2004, 09:50 PM
Say no 2 spam, some of you guys arealready trashing this thread, for the love of vanilla wafers stop.

I second Mr. Rubbish's notion about his fith rule, it sucks rocks if everybody's thinking about running around with bkb's and super mags that can leap through battle like obliterating everything like fecking gods or something. Ok, I'm good now, any more suggestions?

Deathscythealpha
Feb 12, 2004, 08:00 AM
On 2004-02-11 11:08, mr_rubbish wrote:

5) No power without consequences. What this means is that you can't have ultra powerful/near invincible characters without reason. Frequently I see people whose character could do a forest to ruins run and the only problem they would have would be washing the bloodstains off afterwards. When only a Boss would be capable of making them break into a sweat its very hard to come up with a decent challenge that their 'god-like' abilities couldn't conquer in just a few minutes.



Thats a good rule, it kinda destroys a fic when characters all seem to have super rares. The only thing i will have to disagree with is how some characters take on enemies.

Say your setting a fic in the Ruins, or after all the events of PSO have taken place. If a character had taken part in previous events they would be good at handling themselves agaisnt the more common enemies (after killing Boomas and Sharks, the Diminians are only a small step up). Ok, they would get screwed over by newer enemies like Del Sabers, but most of the other enemies should only be a minor quarrel with them. So it would make sense for characters to take out some enemies with relevent ease. But then again, if its a new recruit just out of training who can do this it kind of ruins the fic.

*still cant decide if he wants to take part in a properly organised group fic yet seeing as he's still writing Do Hucast: Legacy, taken a small (ish) part so far in a new group fic and is doing university work*

mr_rubbish
Feb 12, 2004, 09:57 AM
I suppose but how many people were caught off guard by the speed and power of a dimenian the first time their character ventured into the ruins on normal?



On 2004-02-12 05:00, Deathscythealpha wrote:

Thats a good rule, it kinda destroys a fic when characters all seem to have super rares. The only thing i will have to disagree with is how some characters take on enemies.

Say your setting a fic in the Ruins, or after all the events of PSO have taken place. If a character had taken part in previous events they would be good at handling themselves agaisnt the more common enemies (after killing Boomas and Sharks, the Diminians are only a small step up). Ok, they would get screwed over by newer enemies like Del Sabers, but most of the other enemies should only be a minor quarrel with them. So it would make sense for characters to take out some enemies with relevent ease. But then again, if its a new recruit just out of training who can do this it kind of ruins the fic.

*still cant decide if he wants to take part in a properly organised group fic yet seeing as he's still writing Do Hucast: Legacy, taken a small (ish) part so far in a new group fic and is doing university work*

BOC
Feb 12, 2004, 04:31 PM
it all sounds good to me!

even the limited amount of characters, thought some fics may call for more than just 5-6. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

one thing id like to add, is that it may be best to map out a story first. nothing too detailed just some basic points.

one main problem i find with fics is that everyone kinda floats aimlessly around at the beginning until somebody comes up with a plot thread at the middle. and people can get bored before a plot takes root.

just a basic outline, example:

Setting: pre-ragol, pioneer 1
beginning: some manic has been steling one sock from each pair, nobody's socks match, hunters are called to help.
next major plot thread: evil sock manic plans to clog up pioneer engines with socks, kill everyone. (muh ha)
heroes rush off to save day.
end: evil sock dude accidently eats out of date rappy steak. dies of food poison.

while that may be a bundle of crap up there i hope you get the idea. this way people know what there working towards.

remember its not the destination, but the journey......

PEACE!!!

KodiaX987
Feb 12, 2004, 05:58 PM
Yeah, a listing of the groups fics to be done is a good idea.

Uhh, I'll juggle on the idea of starting one up myself, since school is a major time taker for me - so if I do anything, it'll most like be a fic with a relaxed posting pace, which might take a while to complete. So this'll be for leisurely posters and those who want to take their time.

mr_rubbish
Feb 12, 2004, 06:09 PM
How on earth coral do you regulate the speed that other people will post at?
(Unless its through some kind of gentleman's/woman's agreement...)



On 2004-02-12 14:58, KodiaX987 wrote:
it'll most like be a fic with a relaxed posting pace, which might take a while to complete. So this'll be for leisurely posters and those who want to take their time.

KodiaX987
Feb 12, 2004, 06:13 PM
What I basically mean is "Don't feel compelled to keep it on first page. If no one replies in a week or two, it's not the end of the world, take it easy."

mr_rubbish
Feb 12, 2004, 06:18 PM
Yeah I tried that approach with my second group-fic (http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=65846&forum=12&19) attempt. 2 months passed before I realised that no one cared http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

Garanz2
Feb 12, 2004, 06:31 PM
MAYBE (Big maybe) We could do a serious group fic competition. We could split into small groups (3-5?) and work together on seperate stories, stemming from the same basic theme, maybe just a title or a short sentence, posting each part one at a time like a normal group fic. Then the collective fics could be judged, maybe by a moderator or uninvolved fan works residents.

Just an idea. It could be interesting to see how each group would take the basic stem and develop it. Prizes too! Maybe...

Kadou
Feb 12, 2004, 06:40 PM
On 2004-02-12 15:31, Garanz2 wrote:
MAYBE (Big maybe) We could do a serious group fic competition. We could split into small groups (3-5?) and work together on seperate stories, stemming from the same basic theme, maybe just a title or a short sentence, posting each part one at a time like a normal group fic. Then the collective fics could be judged, maybe by a moderator or uninvolved fan works residents.

Just an idea. It could be interesting to see how each group would take the basic stem and develop it. Prizes too! Maybe...



Something this just made me think of. Do group fics get into the Fanfiction section of PSOW?

Robo47
Feb 12, 2004, 06:47 PM
I think DH:2 is... it had 100 chapters,,,(twice as long as "...") so I got discouraged from reading it.

Zzzzzz
Feb 12, 2004, 07:43 PM
What's DH: 2?
Do Hucasts: 2?

mr_rubbish
Feb 13, 2004, 04:56 AM
Very intriging idea... But how would we pick teams?
Not all authors are created equal... http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif


On 2004-02-12 15:31, Garanz2 wrote:
MAYBE (Big maybe) We could do a serious group fic competition. We could split into small groups (3-5?) and work together on seperate stories, stemming from the same basic theme, maybe just a title or a short sentence, posting each part one at a time like a normal group fic. Then the collective fics could be judged, maybe by a moderator or uninvolved fan works residents.

Just an idea. It could be interesting to see how each group would take the basic stem and develop it. Prizes too! Maybe...

Garanz2
Feb 13, 2004, 07:08 AM
Hmmm...That's a thought. Maybe we could do something based on popularity or post count. A tier system maybe? So for instance, if KodiaX, Blackhawk and Deathscythealpha were in the top tier, and there were three teams, each one would be on a seperate team. All the writers could be distributed evenly somehow between the different fics. Just an idea.

mr_rubbish
Feb 13, 2004, 09:04 AM
How about 2 or 3 top tier 'captains'. The remaining authors would be placed in a pool and the captains then take turns selecting for their teams.

Garanz2
Feb 13, 2004, 09:22 AM
That would make sense. Who should the team captains be?

Hikara
Feb 13, 2004, 09:33 AM
The good authors, like Blackhawk etc.

I'm all up for it!! PICK ME FOR A TEAM!!!

Lone_Wolf_Nasca
Feb 13, 2004, 09:45 AM
Perhaps it would be best to have people nominate team captains and then proceed to vote for the top three would-be-captains ? Well thats my humble opinion http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif .

Anyway, im all for this ^_^ !! Be sure to PM me (any of the captains) when any of you come up with a decission(sp?).

mr_rubbish
Feb 13, 2004, 10:18 AM
How about... people who want to be nominated as captain (we should only have 2 to keep things small) will get listed here. We put the names in a voting thread. the top two win.
then we blah blah blah.

PS You can also put someone else forward for nominating if you want http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

Lone_Wolf_Nasca
Feb 13, 2004, 11:18 AM
Yes, this is exactly what I said before.

Anyway, I wish to nominate Mr.Rubbish. Why? he has much experience with group fics (I started participating in group-fics when Mr.rubbish started The North Tower ^_^ ). So I think he is the best choice. Mr. Rubbish for team captain !! YAY !! Whoa !! emotional surge there, sorry http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif

Deathscythealpha
Feb 13, 2004, 11:32 AM
On 2004-02-12 15:47, Robo47 wrote:
I think DH:2 is... it had 100 chapters,,,(twice as long as "...") so I got discouraged from reading it.



Dont worry, alot of those chapters arent actually chapters, just peoples posts. Sadly i dont think DH2 has made the translation to the Fan Fic section correctly, and its misordered, i got to fix that at some point.

mr_rubbish
Feb 13, 2004, 12:31 PM
On 2004-02-13 08:18, Lone_Wolf_Nasca wrote:

Anyway, I wish to nominate Mr.Rubbish. Why? he has much experience with group fics (I started participating in group-fics when Mr.rubbish started The North Tower ^_^ ). So I think he is the best choice. Mr. Rubbish for team captain !! YAY !! Whoa !! emotional surge there, sorry http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif



O_O;
I dunno if I'd be a wise choice... I have a history of making poor decisions...

Hikara
Feb 13, 2004, 02:31 PM
Poor decisions make things... interesting.

Okay, Mr. Rubbish has been nominated, so... Let's nominate KodiaX next!

BOC
Feb 13, 2004, 03:27 PM
On 2004-02-13 08:32, Deathscythealpha wrote:
Dont worry, alot of those chapters arent actually chapters, just peoples posts. Sadly i dont think DH2 has made the translation to the Fan Fic section correctly, and its misordered, i got to fix that at some point.



yeah, they where mis-ordered, and the last few posts where missing too.

what do you think first drove me into the fan works forum?? i wanted to read the last few posts http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif.

but hey, i like the idea of a group fic competition, and i know how we'd pick teams too. everyone could line up against the nearest wall and the captains take turns picking http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

seriously though, names could be drawn out of a hat. or several hats, a hat for each tier of writers. and you couldn't base captain-ship soley on fic-writing ability. they'd have to be able to organise the team to post logically, and not disappear for several days at a time, inspire the team, deal with problems that may arise, delegate roles....... oh my god im starting to sound like a management textbook.

well if it happens, somebody give me a buzz!

PEACE!!!

Sord
Feb 13, 2004, 04:55 PM
On 2004-02-13 11:31, Hikara wrote:
Poor decisions make things... interesting.

Okay, Mr. Rubbish has been nominated, so... Let's nominate KodiaX next!


Well, I second that notion. Which means that, of course, my vote goes to KodiaX for a teir.

Garanz2
Feb 13, 2004, 05:01 PM
It was my idea, so do I get nominated? http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_innocent.gif

Only joking. I'll keep a tally of who's been nominated for group leaders.

So far:

Mr_Rubbish
KodiaX
Garanz2
BOC


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mr_rubbish
Feb 13, 2004, 05:11 PM
If you want I'll nominate you...


On 2004-02-13 14:01, Garanz2 wrote:
It was my idea, so do I get nominated? http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_innocent.gif

Only joking. I'll keep a tally of who's been nominated for group leaders.

So far:
->Garanz2<-
Mr_Rubbish
KodiaX





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Garanz2
Feb 13, 2004, 06:29 PM
Squee! Thanks!

Now, to think of some kind of theme...

Garanz2
Feb 14, 2004, 06:11 AM
I nominate BOC. He always does good stuff with group fics.

BOC
Feb 14, 2004, 10:21 AM
lol, i appreciate the nomination garanz, but trust me id make a horrible team leader. you know how i am, i disappear for days at a time, do long posts, blah blah blah.

honestly i reckon you'd be suited for the job.

PEACE!!!

mr_rubbish
Feb 14, 2004, 10:40 AM
I've just had another idea, along the lines of what KodiaX was saying about scheduling and slowing the pace down.
You could have a system where by each writer would have to take turns aubmitting. However, they would be a real killer for me as I like to post frequently according to the situation.
But it would probably be a good idea for groups of 3-5 authors....

Any thoughts?

PS I'm also nominating KodiaX and DeathScytheAlpha http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

KaFKa
Feb 14, 2004, 10:50 AM
i nominate Hikara. that is, if he wants to be a team leader...

BOC
Feb 14, 2004, 11:01 AM
On 2004-02-14 07:40, mr_rubbish wrote:
I've just had another idea, along the lines of what KodiaX was saying about scheduling and slowing the pace down.
You could have a system where by each writer would have to take turns aubmitting. However, they would be a real killer for me as I like to post frequently according to the situation.
But it would probably be a good idea for groups of 3-5 authors....



i think that might be a good idea, that means you'd avoid clashing posts. But it would be frustrating when ur in one of those 'post like crazy' moods.

PEACE!!!

mr_rubbish
Feb 14, 2004, 11:01 AM
ok so far for team captain nominations we have:

Garanz2
Mr_Rubbish (me!)
KodiaX
DeathScytheAlpha
BOC
Hikara

Any more for any more?

KaFKa
Feb 14, 2004, 11:07 AM
can i nominate myself? http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

BOC
Feb 14, 2004, 11:18 AM
i reckon blackhawk would do a good job too.

what about meira?? think he'd be interested in the job??? probably too busy with the recollection series, but if he shows interest, he gets my vote.

PEACE!!!

mr_rubbish
Feb 14, 2004, 11:28 AM
ok so far for team captain nominations we have:

Garanz2
Mr_Rubbish (me!)
KodiaX
DeathScytheAlpha
Hikara
Kafka
Meira
Blackhawk (?)


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M_BlackHawk
Feb 14, 2004, 12:15 PM
I dunno if I'd be a wise choice for a team captain, since I've got so many projects in the works, what with 4 more chapters left in "Taking a Stand", and with "Evil Returns" also in the works.

If given the opportunity, though, I'd do my best to do a good job as a captain for this group fic. Just keep me on the list and we'll see how it goes from there.

Wait a minute..wait a minute...HOLD THE MF'IN PHONE. You guys just gave me one heck of an idea. Ok, here goes.

The 3rd chapter of "Taking a Stand" focuses on the large group of hunters that have to take on the military, allowing the two insertion teams a chance to complete their objectives. What say, we take that idea, and build that chapter into a group fic, not in the fic's thread itself, but in its own separate thread, and I'll compile it into a chapter of its own at a later date?

let me know what you think.

later

M_BlackHawk



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Zzzzzz
Feb 14, 2004, 02:05 PM
I don't know how you guys do this stuff. I revised my first chapter of my fanfic at least 5 times and it still not good. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_cry.gif

Can people who might not be in the fanfic(me!) nominate captains? If so, I would nominate Kafka or Hikara.

Solstis
Feb 14, 2004, 02:11 PM
I would nominate mr_rubbish, especially since that group fic will probably be over before this one beings.

Great direction and leadership! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

Er... I mean vote for.

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mr_rubbish
Feb 14, 2004, 02:12 PM
Yeah non-contributors can nominate someone (as long as you promise to read the stuff that we will be writing).
This stage is picking team captains, who will in turn pick people for the two teams.
Nominate someone who you would think makes good leader material and who hasn't been nominated already.


On 2004-02-14 11:05, Zzzzzz wrote:
Can people who might not be in the fanfic(me!) nominate captains? If so, I would nominate Kafka or Hikara.



Maybe you should post it so that others can offer advice. Just remember sometimes, you can your own worst critic!


On 2004-02-14 11:05, Zzzzzz wrote:
I don't know how you guys do this stuff. I revised my first chapter of my fanfic at least 5 times and it still not good. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_cry.gif

Zzzzzz
Feb 14, 2004, 02:26 PM
Yeah non-contributors can nominate someone (as long as you promise to read the stuff that we will be writing).
This stage is picking team captains, who will in turn pick people for the two teams.
Nominate someone who you would think makes good leader material and who hasn't been nominated already.

Man, that be tough. All the ones I can think of are nominated.


Maybe you should post it so that others can offer advice. Just remember sometimes, you can your own worst critic!

I posted the prologue of it sometime ago and, if it weren't for Kafka(thanks http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif), my fanfic wouldn't be always changing like it is right now.
Because you can always make your fic better.

mr_rubbish
Feb 14, 2004, 02:34 PM
On 2004-02-14 11:26, Zzzzzz wrote:


Nominate someone who you would think makes good leader material and who hasn't been nominated already.

Man, that be tough. All the ones I can think of are nominated.



We only need nine willing victims volunteers then we can do a poll and people can vote on it...

Garanz2
Feb 14, 2004, 02:38 PM
There is is slight problem. Seven (eight?) people have been nominated so far, but there aren't enough willing people to make that many teams. Not everyone can be a team leader unfortunately. There needs to be a way of deciding which of the nominees get the posts.

mr_rubbish
Feb 14, 2004, 02:42 PM
There should only be two captains. Any more than that will dilute the writing pool too much. Everyone else will then throw their names into a virtual hat and the 2 captains will choose their crew.

BOC
Feb 15, 2004, 09:59 AM
On 2004-02-14 09:15, M_BlackHawk wrote:
Wait a minute..wait a minute...HOLD THE MF'IN PHONE. You guys just gave me one heck of an idea. Ok, here goes.

The 3rd chapter of "Taking a Stand" focuses on the large group of hunters that have to take on the military, allowing the two insertion teams a chance to complete their objectives. What say, we take that idea, and build that chapter into a group fic, not in the fic's thread itself, but in its own separate thread, and I'll compile it into a chapter of its own at a later date?


sounds like a cool idea blackhawk, but what happens if it goes pear-shaped?? http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif

evil could be afoot! yet so good mucho coolness!

mr_rubbish
Feb 15, 2004, 10:06 AM
Sorry Blackhawk, I read your post and it didn't really sink in till just now.

It does sound like a good idea but you would have to make sure it is reasonable structured with regards to what plot points you want achieved and what characters will be allowed to take part.



On 2004-02-14 09:15, M_BlackHawk wrote:
Wait a minute..wait a minute...HOLD THE MF'IN PHONE. You guys just gave me one heck of an idea. Ok, here goes.

The 3rd chapter of "Taking a Stand" focuses on the large group of hunters that have to take on the military, allowing the two insertion teams a chance to complete their objectives. What say, we take that idea, and build that chapter into a group fic, not in the fic's thread itself, but in its own separate thread, and I'll compile it into a chapter of its own at a later date?

-Z
Feb 15, 2004, 11:30 AM
Wow, has this thread grown without me knowing. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif

Well, as for captains. I have nobody to nominate. So, imma just put in my votes. (2 captains, 2 votes? O.o?)

umm...

i vote for Hikara and Blackhawk for captains.

they do make nice fics ^_^

EDIT: hmm... ya think HunterKieran would be interested?

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mr_rubbish
Feb 15, 2004, 11:57 AM
On 2004-02-15 08:30, -Z wrote:

EDIT: hmm... ya think HunterKieran would be interested?


PM him and see if he wants to take part.

I messaged Meira already but haven't had any reply yet...


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Zzzzzz
Feb 15, 2004, 04:59 PM
Now this is what I like in a groupfic dicussion.
Thinking it out before starting.

Kadou
Feb 15, 2004, 05:16 PM
On 2004-02-15 08:30, -Z wrote:
Wow, has this thread grown without me knowing. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif

Well, as for captains. I have nobody to nominate. So, imma just put in my votes. (2 captains, 2 votes? O.o?)

umm...

i vote for Hikara Mr.Rubbish and Blackhawk for captains.


That's almost exactly what I'm thinking at the moment.

No offense toward Hikara, but Rubbish definitely has more experience with group fics.

mr_rubbish
Feb 15, 2004, 06:20 PM
Aww shucks! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/blush.gif
Yes its true... I am the best http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

Zzzzzz
Feb 16, 2004, 12:03 AM
On 2004-02-15 15:20, mr_rubbish wrote:
Aww shucks! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/blush.gif
Yes its true... I am the best http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif



I'm thinking of submiting a short I thought up based on your latest group-fic if I have the time.
<.<
>.>
Darn it. People always taking over the computer.

Robo47
Feb 16, 2004, 12:09 AM
Just for notes, "Black Screen Of Death" isn't part of this contest, it's just something I cooked up for fun.

Everyone can participate, and no worrys, I won't do what I did in "Ruins Run".

mr_rubbish
Feb 17, 2004, 06:29 PM
I'm finally getting around to posting this...

I'm suddenly becoming afraid(!) of this group-fic contest. There are a number of reasons, that number is 2.

1. Who's going to judge the contest? most people barely have time to read one group-fic let alone two. Having said that, I applaude all those who have the patience to sit through 'Rise of the Machines'. On behalf of all the contributors, I thank you.

2. Victory conditions. When do we know when there is a winner. When the other thread dies, first to hit the end etc?

There were other reasons but I should have posted this on friday and now I've forgotten them http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

I reckon this group-fic competition should be put on indefinite hold (but only for a while) and we look into M_blackhawk's proposal.

Whatta ya think?

Zzzzzz
Feb 17, 2004, 06:39 PM
We should at least finish the ROTM group fic first.

Hikara
Feb 17, 2004, 06:42 PM
THANK YOU FOR WHOEVER SAID MR. RUBBISH HAD MORE EXPERIANCE THAN I DO!!

Because really, he does.

I don't do group fics, much. I just participate now and again.

And watch.... ^_^

Sord
Feb 17, 2004, 06:49 PM
On 2004-02-17 15:29, mr_rubbish wrote:
I'm finally getting around to posting this...

I'm suddenly becoming afraid(!) of this group-fic contest. There are a number of reasons, that number is 2.

1. Who's going to judge the contest? most people barely have time to read one group-fic let alone two. Having said that, I applaude all those who have the patience to sit through 'Rise of the Machines'. On behalf of all the contributors, I thank you.

2. Victory conditions. When do we know when there is a winner. When the other thread dies, first to hit the end etc?

There were other reasons but I should have posted this on friday and now I've forgotten them http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

I reckon this group-fic competition should be put on indefinite hold (but only for a while) and we look into M_blackhawk's proposal.

Whatta ya think?


I'd be happy to be a judge, but then i wouldn't be able to participate. Course, if these are all in the severely serious category, you can count me out. I can be a judge easy though. Half the time i complain because fics are moving to fast, in other words, I have enough time. Though the how to judge problem still exists. I mean, stick a bimbo HUnewearl in your story and I'm probably going to be hooked, unless the story is severely bad.

I guess some of the things would be:

Character Interaction
Plot Originality
Plot Flow
Vocabulary
Spelling and Grammar (copy, paste, spell and grammar check) or not, preferably not
Character Usage (no uber characters and such)

and that's all i can think of right now

mr_rubbish
Feb 17, 2004, 06:50 PM
RotM is a separate thing. That will be finished even if i have to tie people up and force them to type with their noses.
---
Hikara, I'm sure if you had no life like I do you would easily be able to participate in more proup-fics http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif



On 2004-02-17 15:39, Zzzzzz wrote:
We should at least finish the ROTM group fic first.

Sord
Feb 17, 2004, 06:55 PM
I want to do a Shurikane spin off. Though that's up to KodiaX if he wins the teir vote. It wouldn't exactly go with the storyline, maybe somewhere between the 1st and 2nd stories. I mean, you just can't beat that gore (i know i can be gruesom when i want to) as well as the perverted coments here and there. and another plus, (for me if i would participate in it) would be the character i would play (Sato Sord) has already met Shurikane, and is human because of it...except for the sato ears.

Raandom Guy: Awww, look at the cut little...

Sord:STFU!!! *beats random guy up with stick*

Hikara
Feb 17, 2004, 06:59 PM
You know, that sounds like a good idea, but I've never read any of them, so I'm not sure HOW good of an idea it is.

But spin offs would prove interesting to see.

And Mr. Rubbish: You claim I have a LIFE!? Well, alright... but it's a very SMALL one. You'd be surprised how much I write... But not ONE of them was a group-fic, so I still stand by my comment that Rubbish would indeed be better than I.

mr_rubbish
Feb 17, 2004, 07:10 PM
Ok, Hikara... Sheesh! I am better than you. there! I said it... are you satisfied?

A note about plot lines. IMO it maybe unwise to selct a topic that not everyone is familiar with. For instance a story based on KodiaX's Shurikane fic's might be nice but it then means reading assignments for those who haven't read them.
I know they are pretty long, and i barely have time in the day to post 30-40 messages without having to read KodiaX's novel too (No offense KodiaX!)!

I mean I still haven't read new ultimate's fic yet and its been a week!

In the end it all depends................

Hikara
Feb 17, 2004, 07:12 PM
Yes, I'm satisfied.

But here's an idea. After we pick captains (when is that, anyway?) and teams, the Captains should be given a few days or so to PM everyone with ideas concerning a story line that they all can agree on. After it has been decided, the fic starts, characters are created (yeah, no Uber dudes. That's boring), and the story goes on.

That way, everyone gets to choose what's going on EVEN BEFORE the thing takes off!

mr_rubbish
Feb 17, 2004, 07:16 PM
I'll do the poll vote thread tommorow (wednesday)
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On 2004-02-17 16:12, Hikara wrote:
But here's an idea. After we pick captains (when is that, anyway?) and teams, the Captains should be given a few days or so to PM everyone with ideas concerning a /quote]

Sord
Feb 17, 2004, 08:04 PM
On 2004-02-17 16:10, mr_rubbish wrote:
Ok, Hikara... Sheesh! I am better than you. there! I said it... are you satisfied?

A note about plot lines. IMO it maybe unwise to selct a topic that not everyone is familiar with. For instance a story based on KodiaX's Shurikane fic's might be nice but it then means reading assignments for those who haven't read them.
I know they are pretty long, and i barely have time in the day to post 30-40 messages without having to read KodiaX's novel too (No offense KodiaX!)!

I mean I still haven't read new ultimate's fic yet and its been a week!

In the end it all depends................


like i said, it doesn't need to follow the storyline, just the general highlights and such. Heck, i could sum up the first two stories of KodiaX pretty simply (need to read the third one). The only thing that would take a long time is character discription, and if you have it, copy paste it. Your making it harder than it sounds. Tons of stories start out with stuff that comes off something else that hasn't even been created yet, and the work (in other words the sequal was made before the prequal) is still good.

Zzzzzz
Feb 17, 2004, 08:39 PM
(yeah, no Uber dudes. That's boring)

Maybe we could have them be rookie hunters? Then again, we wouldn't have very epic fight scenes. If someone went up against Kafka in RoTM, for example, the battle wouldn't last long.

Robo47
Feb 17, 2004, 08:41 PM
On 2004-02-17 17:04, Sord wrote:


On 2004-02-17 16:10, mr_rubbish wrote:
Ok, Hikara... Sheesh! I am better than you. there! I said it... are you satisfied?

A note about plot lines. IMO it maybe unwise to selct a topic that not everyone is familiar with. For instance a story based on KodiaX's Shurikane fic's might be nice but it then means reading assignments for those who haven't read them.
I know they are pretty long, and i barely have time in the day to post 30-40 messages without having to read KodiaX's novel too (No offense KodiaX!)!

I mean I still haven't read new ultimate's fic yet and its been a week!

In the end it all depends................


like i said, it doesn't need to follow the storyline, just the general highlights and such. Heck, i could sum up the first two stories of KodiaX pretty simply (need to read the third one). The only thing that would take a long time is character discription, and if you have it, copy paste it. Your making it harder than it sounds. Tons of stories start out with stuff that comes off something else that hasn't even been created yet, and the work (in other words the sequal was made before the prequal) is still good.



I take it you want to read it now, correct?

KodiaX987
Feb 17, 2004, 09:50 PM
I'll post this in advance - in case I get elected.

I will leave plot decision to the entire team. Once the team is set up, THEN we brainstorm on the different ideas. This way, if we choose to do a non-Insa fic, the participants won't have to go through the trouble of reading all the back story.

Zzzzzz
Feb 17, 2004, 10:04 PM
On 2004-02-17 18:50, KodiaX987 wrote:
I'll post this in advance - in case I get elected.

I will leave plot decision to the entire team. Once the team is set up, THEN we brainstorm on the different ideas. This way, if we choose to do a non-Insa fic, the participants won't have to go through the trouble of reading all the back story.



Good idea. How about when the people are decied we pick who goes on which team radomly?
Just a http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif thought.

KaFKa
Feb 17, 2004, 10:14 PM
On 2004-02-17 17:39, Zzzzzz wrote:

(yeah, no Uber dudes. That's boring)

Maybe we could have them be rookie hunters? Then again, we wouldn't have very epic fight scenes. If someone went up against Kafka in RoTM, for example, the battle wouldn't last long.


true... but Kafka was more of a plot device than anything. i think we should limit the power of the characters to the 'relative level' of 50-ish...

just an opinion, not sure if you guys want to use it or not. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

KodiaX987
Feb 17, 2004, 11:12 PM
On 2004-02-17 19:04, Zzzzzz wrote:
Good idea. How about when the people are decied we pick who goes on which team radomly?
Just a http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif thought.


Hmmm, I don't like the idea. I'd prefer to do it captain-style. Each captain, in turn, chooses a willing ficcer from the pool. It's a bit, well, "I'm better than you!" but I feel it's necessary to achieve a good group fic.

Zzzzzz
Feb 17, 2004, 11:46 PM
On 2004-02-17 20:12, KodiaX987 wrote:


On 2004-02-17 19:04, Zzzzzz wrote:
Good idea. How about when the people are decied we pick who goes on which team radomly?
Just a http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif thought.


Hmmm, I don't like the idea. I'd prefer to do it captain-style. Each captain, in turn, chooses a willing ficcer from the pool. It's a bit, well, "I'm better than you!" but I feel it's necessary to achieve a good group fic.



That's true. Although it may be hard when it comes to choosing people.

mr_rubbish
Feb 18, 2004, 12:56 PM
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Hikosaka
Feb 19, 2004, 07:36 PM
Hmm...can you all clarify how this'll work?

So far, I got that captains will be elected, then those captains choose teams, etc.

So, how will ideas be discussed? Via PM between teammates? Within the threads themselves?

So far, I'm thinking if there are two teams, that would be two separate fic threads, plus possibly two separate discussion threads, plus the voting/judging thread?

However, long as it's under control, and relatively spam free, I'll allow it for now. Hopefully it will turn out as well as planned. Good luck in any case.



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KaFKa
Feb 19, 2004, 08:45 PM
Hiko's got a point, but im sure we can work the 'little' things out http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

BTW, i laughed out loud for a good five minutes at your siggie http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

KodiaX987
Feb 19, 2004, 09:44 PM
My own plan for my team (if ever) is this:

-We discuss of the fic we're gonna do in the vote-for-captains thread.
-We do the fic, where comments will be allowed in BOLD.
-Once both teams are done, we open a voting thread.

That's the way I'd do it.

mr_rubbish
Feb 20, 2004, 04:30 AM
My intention this weekend was to create another thread (for the sake of clarity but at the risk of too many threads though) where we would gather the names of all those participating and where contributors ONLY could discuss plot and format etc and teams would be announced.

This particular thread (discussion) would then be abandoned as would the captains vote thread on the 1st of march (voting deadline) because we would all move to that thread.

If anyone has objections to this plan then i'm open to suggestions.

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Hikara
Feb 20, 2004, 09:34 AM
.....

Maybe we could actually set up temporary teams in the Team GUild area, and have people Mass Mail the team concerning plot and whatever.

Then again, some of us are already on a team, and it would force us to leave the team.... And other people couldn't just mass mail everyone else unless you made them administrators....

Just a thought, but the thread'll probably work best.

mr_rubbish
Feb 20, 2004, 03:24 PM
The Group-fic discussion has now been moved here (http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=76358&forum=12&0) for the next stage.