What are the red items?

[Marit]

I've been playing offline (no modem yet) and I keep running across Photon something-or-others. And I've seen a few Screen shots with other red boxes. Can those only be used online or can they be used off line too.

Also, all the S-Ranked items I read about, is that an online only thing as well?

[Superguppie]

Photon Drops can only be used online. They are used to buy certain items, put specials on fresh S-ranks and improve % on weapons.
In general a Red Box is for a special item. Among these are Photon Drop, a range of Armor and loads of Special Weapons. The latter initialy show as ? Special Weapon, and after tekking have a name in yellow capitals. All except the Photon Drop can be used offline like any other item.
S-rank weapons are the reward for Challenge Mode Online. So, yes, these are online only.

[Ayaname]

On 2004-02-11 01:47, Superguppie wrote:
S-rank weapons are the reward for Challenge Mode Online. So, yes, these are online only.


I thought S-Ranks could also be obtained by Offline C-Mode too. Is this true? o.o

[Ketchup345]

On 2004-02-11 03:21, Ayaname wrote:


On 2004-02-11 01:47, Superguppie wrote:
S-rank weapons are the reward for Challenge Mode Online. So, yes, these are online only.

I thought S-Ranks could also be obtained by Offline C-Mode too. Is this true? o.o


The offline C-Mode prizes are technically S-Ranks, but are not like the ones from online. They have set abilities (you choose for online S-Ranks), and are considered more of "joke" weapons than actually useful (low damage, funny looks).

[Marit]

On 2004-02-11 03:25, Ketchup345 wrote:

The offline C-Mode prizes are technically S-Ranks, but are not like the ones from online. They have set abilities (you choose for online S-Ranks), and are considered more of "joke" weapons than actually useful (low damage, funny looks).



Now taht just blows. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Thanks for the info though, I wasn't sure if I was missing something or not.

[Butoden]

On 2004-02-11 04:06, Marit wrote:


On 2004-02-11 03:25, Ketchup345 wrote:

The offline C-Mode prizes are technically S-Ranks, but are not like the ones from online. They have set abilities (you choose for online S-Ranks), and are considered more of "joke" weapons than actually useful (low damage, funny looks).



Now taht just blows. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Thanks for the info though, I wasn't sure if I was missing something or not.

S-Rank weapons on-line are stronger than S-Ranks Offline!? I thought you didn't even get S-Ranks offline at first, but this sux even more http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

[Thepandaman]

From what I've heard, and seen on the item database stats, the offline challenge mode prizes on v2 were much more impressive. Is that true, and if so was that because it was harder to get through the challenge mode on v2?

[LollipopLolita]

dc and pc cmode s-rank

http://www.pso-world.com/sections.php?op=viewarticle&artid=975

gc offline s-rank (ep 1)

http://www.pso-world.com/sections.php?op=viewarticle&artid=331

gc online s-rank (ep 1)

http://www.pso-world.com/sections.php?op=viewarticle&artid=691

photon drops

http://www.pso-world.com/sections.php?op=viewarticle&artid=307

gallon's shop

http://www.pso-world.com/sections.php?op=viewarticle&artid=772

[Genoa]

DC's challenge S-Ranks were unbelievably and ubberly cheap. S-Rank Spread.... holy crap... can you say "OVERKILL"!
I'd say the most popular Ver.3 S-Rank weapon that is choosen is S-Rank Twin. It can be grinded 250. That's a 500 ATP boost on top of the original 50 it has. So it's a Twin Saber that gives 550 ATP (when fully grinded and 40 ATA). And my FOmar can use it too! I so need to get that weapon.

[DarkRadiance]

I'd say the most popular Ver.3 S-Rank weapon that is choosen is S-Rank Twin. It can be grinded 250. That's a 500 ATP boost on top of the original 50 it has. So it's a Twin Saber that gives 550 ATP (when fully grinded and 40 ATA). And my FOmar can use it too! I so need to get that weapon.


what about FOnewearls? Karen Arisa would go uber on just about anythin' with that.

[Genoa]

I think FOmar would make the best of S-Rank Twin. A Shifta Lvl.30 and a Zalure Lvl.30 with maxed base ATP... (which I can/do....) 1002 ATP... +450 from Shifta... +550 from S-Rank Twin = 2002 ATP! With a twin saber! So that's 6 hits... a heavy hit would do around 510-520 damage... let's round to 515... 515x4=2060+500 (two 250's from doing a regular hit 1st to start the combo... and to actually HIT the enemy) would be 2560 damage total (comparison based on enemies in forest). That's if your FOmar has good ATA too... but forest isn't all that hard to hit. 200 ATA is good enough for forest... forgot to mention it would do even more damage due to the fact their DFP has been ubberly lowered! Meleeing with forces that wield lvl.30 techniques is so awesome. And 2x S/D J/Z range! And a Gi-tech&Grants boost of 1.3 damage... it's great!




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[lain2k3]

On 2004-02-11 16:42, DarkRadiance wrote:

I'd say the most popular Ver.3 S-Rank weapon that is choosen is S-Rank Twin. It can be grinded 250. That's a 500 ATP boost on top of the original 50 it has. So it's a Twin Saber that gives 550 ATP (when fully grinded and 40 ATA). And my FOmar can use it too! I so need to get that weapon.


what about FOnewearls? Karen Arisa would go uber on just about anythin' with that.



Only problem is that it has a requierment of 800 atp, Fonnys max at 573.

And fomars suck crap with Srank twins. they have a max total of 203. thats barely enough to hit a bartle in offline forest.

FOnewms make the best use of an Srank twin, as far as forces go. highest max ata (180) out of the 3 FO's that can use it.

[Genoa]

Again, hittin on FOmar's and their ATA! Well meh! I can do just fine in the low-level stages. And i'm getting a God/Arm soon enough and i'll be able to hit all!... or... um... atleast more than I used to. I still root for the FOmar's.

[ERS]

On 2004-02-11 18:05, MegamanX wrote:
Again, hittin on FOmar's and their ATA! Well meh! I can do just fine in the low-level stages. And i'm getting a God/Arm soon enough and i'll be able to hit all!... or... um... atleast more than I used to. I still root for the FOmar's.



Even with a God/Arm your base ATA will still be too low to hit anything in later stages. FOmar ATA maxes at 163, which is terrible. The only way to fix that is to have weapons with high hit% on them.