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Helco
Feb 21, 2004, 10:28 AM
how in the blue hell does this quest to get it work ? it says go to the unsealed door mission before you go to te waterfall tears and black papaer missions and if im not mistaken waterfall tears and black paper missions come before unsealed door mission rihgt ?

mafuwally
Feb 21, 2004, 10:35 AM
uhhh maybe if you use grammar in that sentance i'll be able to help you.....and spell right.

Ketchup345
Feb 21, 2004, 11:22 AM
You must finish all the quests in that difficulty. You can then play through them again.

epeon
Feb 21, 2004, 04:07 PM
why try gettin' soul eater anyway? it sucks >_<

Genoa
Feb 21, 2004, 04:08 PM
No it doesn't? It's better than Gungnir and it's special ablility does more than any partisan I can think of. As long as you have the HP for it...

Zeroy
Feb 21, 2004, 04:24 PM
On 2004-02-21 08:22, Ketchup345 wrote:
You must finish all the quests in that difficulty. You can then play through them again.



wrong... i did the soul eater quest the first time through.

you DONT have to do Waterfall Tears & Black Paper to access the mines. just leave them alone until you finnish Dr. Osto's Research and Unsealed Door, then go back and do them. After that you do From the Depths.

Hrith
Feb 21, 2004, 05:38 PM
What ketchup meant is that if you screwed it on the first time, you can always complete all quests, and take back where you screwed it, except if you told Sue your name.

Firocket1690
Feb 21, 2004, 05:50 PM
On 2004-02-21 13:08, MegamanX wrote:
No it doesn't? It's better than Gungnir and it's special ablility does more than any partisan I can think of. As long as you have the HP for it...


Vjaya ?
Fully Grinded ?
http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Zeroy
Feb 21, 2004, 06:05 PM
just be carefull not to kill yourself with it... i almost did that once http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif luckly it missed.

Ketchup345
Feb 21, 2004, 06:41 PM
On 2004-02-21 15:05, Zeroy wrote:
just be carefull not to kill yourself with it... i almost did that once http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif luckly it missed.


Berserk Weapons will always miss if you don't have enough HP to use the special (or you will not get the BErserk effect, I forget).

Firocket1690
Feb 21, 2004, 06:42 PM
On 2004-02-21 15:05, Zeroy wrote:
just be carefull not to kill yourself with it... i almost did that once http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif luckly it missed.


...
'Sacrifice HP' weapons can't kill you ...
It leaves you with 3 HP ...

.... but then the 'drain HP' effect of holding it will, so .... =/

Genoa
Feb 21, 2004, 06:48 PM
I recall dying after using Oritiagito and Soul Banish's special all the way... Maybe it didn't, i'll have to check tonight.

Firocket1690
Feb 21, 2004, 06:53 PM
On 2004-02-21 15:48, MegamanX wrote:
I recall dying after using Oritiagito and Soul Banish's special all the way... Maybe it didn't, i'll have to check tonight.


Wait ...
Banish - Medgid
Eater - HP drain ?

*confused*
I remember they have different speciasl.
Oroagito, I'm positive, kills you after overusage.

Genoa
Feb 21, 2004, 06:54 PM
Soul Banish - Megid
Soul Eater - Beserk

Genoa
Feb 21, 2004, 07:19 PM
[/quote]
Vjaya ?
Fully Grinded ?
http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[/quote]
1. Vjaya is not as cool looking as Soul Eater
2. It takes Meseta... which is worse in my opinion (meaning i'd rather sacrifice HP and quickly recover it)
3. Not all characters can use Vjaya.
4. Yeah I messed up, so there is a partisan that does more... http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

rising_sunset
Feb 21, 2004, 07:27 PM
If you ask me I would prefer banish over eater because it looks cooler its stronger and it can cast megid! (Only if your not a FO, it's kind of good!)

Genoa
Feb 21, 2004, 07:32 PM
Banish- Very low lvl. megid, won't work on ult... as far as I have tried atleast... More accurate and powerful than Eater. Has that dark energy reaction when you swing (like delsaber's buster equiped with shield)
Eater- does a shiz load of damage with Beserk ability, .... that's about it...
Banish requires 850 ATP, HU's and FOmar&FOmarl only. They look identical, other than the fact their stats and special is different, and banish has that darkenergy swing. Eater requires.... little ATP to wear. Pefect for low-lvl. characters.

rising_sunset
Feb 21, 2004, 07:35 PM
Do they look identical? I don't think so, I think banish have a black smokeish thing comming from the blade, at least that's what I remember.

Firocket1690
Feb 21, 2004, 07:37 PM
On 2004-02-21 16:19, MegamanX wrote:
1. Vjaya is not as cool looking as Soul Eater

Debatable.


2. It takes Meseta... which is worse in my opinion (meaning i'd rather sacrifice HP and quickly recover it)
Depends on your style, I assume you don't use bots http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif


3. Not all characters can use Vjaya.
Okay, I'll give you that one ...


4. Yeah I messed up, so there is a partisan that does more... http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif
http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

Genoa
Feb 21, 2004, 07:38 PM
On 2004-02-21 16:35, carolsdegga wrote:
Do they look identical? I don't think so, I think banish have a black smokeish thing comming from the blade, at least that's what I remember.


-_- ... the black smokeidsh thing (as you call it) is the dark energy stuff (that I called it) similar to delsaber's wear when both are equiped. BUT, the black smokeish stuff only comes out when you attack with it... not when standing. You couldn't tell the difference if both weapons were just standing still on someone. Same with S-Rank Sythe on DC... but that's ubbery cheap.

Firocket1690
Feb 21, 2004, 07:43 PM
Hmm, not exactly from the blade, but the tip of the blade. The tip of the stick and the head of the blade. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Thingy sorta looks like a bird's head ... somehow
The 'dark energy stuff'/'smokish'/'evi- hell, I don't name these things ...
looks like it's comming from the 'eye of the thingy
I dunno, that's the way I see it.

Wait, we're talking about Banish, right ?

Genoa
Feb 21, 2004, 07:45 PM
yes... and what I don't get, is KIREEK (aka, The Black Hound) is wearing Soul Banish. Yet, when you beat him, it says you aquire Soul Eater... that's wrong! Notice the dark stuff that comes out of Soul Banish and not Soul Eater, yet KIREEK's blade has the dark stuff just like Soul Banish! Now we must beat him over the head with Akiko's Frying Pan and demand answers!

Primrose
Feb 21, 2004, 08:01 PM
On 2004-02-21 15:42, Firocket1690 wrote:
...
'Sacrifice HP' Berserk weapons can't kill you ...



If you change it to that, you shouldnt be confused anymore ^_^

Hm, let me explain, a weapon that sacrifices HP from your remaining HP (Berserk = 1/4 of remaining HP) will never kill you, the special just wont work, like you said.
Then you have unique specials that will sacrifice HP from your whole HP (Lavis Series = 5% of total HP, Orotiagito = 7% of total HP) no matter if you hit or not, in the same way as Vjaya uses Meseta, landed a hit or not.

Soukosa
Feb 21, 2004, 08:05 PM
On 2004-02-21 17:01, Primrose wrote:
Hm, let me explain, a weapon that sacrifices HP from your remaining HP (Berserk = 1/4 of remaining HP) will never kill you, the special just wont work, like you said.

When I tried to see if Berserk would kill you one time, I managed to get it down 3 or 4 HP and which point it, it didn't take any more, but the special still worked.

Firocket1690
Feb 21, 2004, 08:07 PM
On 2004-02-21 17:01, Primrose wrote:
Hm, let me explain, a weapon that sacrifices HP from your remaining HP (Berserk = 1/4 of remaining HP) will never kill you, the special just wont work, like you said.

Shut up .... I forget http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif
It just won't continue draining HP, although the special still has the powerful attack.
Yeah, technically, Vjaya isn't Charge, it's Meseta drain.
Same with Oro/Lavis, as HP drain....

Primrose
Feb 21, 2004, 08:30 PM
Actually while writing the post i meant that the special wont work as of it wont drain any HP anymore. But now that you guys mention the fact that the specials power still remains, i must say that this is new information to me, so thanks.

Helco
Feb 21, 2004, 09:39 PM
what exactly do soul eater and soul banish specials do ?

Hrith
Feb 21, 2004, 11:20 PM
Eater is Berserk, like any berserk weapon, Primrose explained it.
Banish casts a very low Lv Megid at the constant cost of 7% of your max HP.

Soul Banish is the most powerful partisan so far (S-Rank Scythe may be more powerful), and has 45 ATA (it's a lot) and a chance to Hit% (though slim)

Soukosa
Feb 22, 2004, 12:04 AM
On 2004-02-21 20:20, Kef wrote:
Soul Banish is the most powerful partisan so far

S-Rank Partisan is stronger when fully ground.

Firocket1690
Feb 22, 2004, 03:39 AM
On 2004-02-21 21:04, Sounomi wrote:


On 2004-02-21 20:20, Kef wrote:
Soul Banish is the most powerful partisan so far

S-Rank Partisan is stronger when fully ground.


+ 500 ATP, w00ty.

Oh, BTW, the mass duped one is a
PHANTASY PARTISAN +250

Hrith
Feb 22, 2004, 01:05 PM
S-Rank PArtisan grinds to +200

and I tested it with my Soul Banish, Banish is clearly more powerful, even though stats say otherwise, I dunno why, Soul Banish is a very odd weapon, it has the same power as my Chain Sawd/Zanba, while its APT is supposedly a lot lower http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_confused.gif

Soukosa
Feb 22, 2004, 01:16 PM
On 2004-02-22 10:05, Kef wrote:
and I tested it with my Soul Banish, Banish is clearly more powerful, even though stats say otherwise, I dunno why, Soul Banish is a very odd weapon, it has the same power as my Chain Sawd/Zanba, while its APT is supposedly a lot lower http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_confused.gif

Must be all of those 100's you put on your weapons.

Hrith
Feb 22, 2004, 01:46 PM
Right.......
my Zanba has 30/25/0/0/20, my Banish 55/15/25/0/0 and my Chain Sawd 25/0/40/0/50 amd I tested them all in Ruins -_-