Top 5 reasons for ___ ID

[Zack_Morris]

I did a quick search for a thread about this but I didn't come up with anything. I want everyones opinion on the top 5 reasons for each ID (rare-item-wise). If you're only familar with a few ID's just say the top 5 reasons for your own ID. If your list has items that are close to making the list but don't, place them after the 5, in a little side note.

Also take into account availability. If an item is easier to get on another ID try to put something else in it's place, basically penalize a good rare item for being impossible or very hard to find on that particular section ID. This way we can try to find out the easiest finds for the best items.



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[doubletake123]

well i like skyly for my hucast, because thet id finds soooooooooooooooooo many swords and certin sabers and pretty nice mechguns.

[doubletake123]

sry that wasn't five

[Zack_Morris]

would you agree with...

Skyly
1.Heart of Poumn
2.D-parts ver 1.01
3.Demolition Comet
4.Monkey King Bar
5.Standstill shield

All besides the MKB and Standstill shield have really good drop rates if you don't mind piping. This is nothing final, just something to start debate/more lists.

[Ketchup345]

On 2004-02-21 10:44, Zack_Morris wrote:
3.Demolition Comet


You want to start a debate?

I personally think Redria has the easier Demo Comet. I find it easier to find Mil Lillies than Puilly Slimes. In 500+ hours of this game, I have only found one Pouilly Slime, but found many more Nar/Mil Lillies by doing constant caves runs.

[Hrith]

Viridia :
Standstill Shield - VR Temple Mil Lily
Nei's Claw - Ill Gill
Madam's Parasol - Gibbles
Red Sword - Nano Dragon
All Katanas

Greennill :
Yasminkov 3000R - Mine Gillchich
Handgun:Guld - VR Spaceship Delsaber
Cure/Paralysis - Very Hard Pouilly Slime
Guard Wave - Pal Rappy
Spread Needle - Ruins Merlan

Skyly :
Angel Harp - Pal Rappy
Chain Sawd - Vulmer
Heart of Poumn - Love Rappy
Yasha - VR Temple Indi Belra
Sealed J-Sword - Gi Gue

Bluefull :
Imperial Pick - Forest Gulgus-gue/Dolmdarl
Heaven Punisher - Forest Hildetorr
Cure/Confuse - Very Hard Cave Nar Lily

Purplenum :
Psycho Wand - Cave Mil Lily
Red Handgun - Forest El Rappy
Kasami Bracer - Canabin
Yasminkov 9000M - VR Temple Crimson Assassin
Spread Needle - Ruins Merlan

Pinkal :
Berdysh - VR Temple Hildetorr
Agito AUW 1975 - Pal Rappy
Aura Field - VR Temple Del-D
God/Ability - VR Spaceship Gulgus-gue
Red Saber - Barble
Cure/Slow - Very Hard Pouilly Slime

Redria :
God/Battle - Forest Hildelt
God/Technique - VR Temple Crimson Assassin
Lavis Cannon - Pouilly Slime
Kasami Bracer - Sinow Blue
DF Field - Ruins Merlan
Monkey King Bar - Dolmolm
Cure/Shock - Very Hard Forest Hildeblue
Magic Stone "Iritista" - Forest Hildetorr

Oran :
Prophets of Motav - Dark Bringer
Twin Chakram - Tollaw/Sinow Zoa
Sense Plate - Cave Mil Lily
Aura Field - VR Temple Mil Lily
Cross Scar

Yellowboze :
DB's Sword AUW 3075 - Claw
Flowen's Sword AUW 3084 - VR Temple Ob Lily
Secure Feet - VR Temple Mil Lily
Red Handgun - Bartle
Red Saber - Barble
NUG2000-Bazooka - Canabin
Spread Needle - Merlan
Cure/Confuse - Very Hard Cave Nar Lily
Cure/Shock - Very Hard Pouilly Slime
All enemy parts

Whitill :
Rico's Earring - Dark Bringer
Rico's Glasses - Ruins Del-D
Flight Fan - Nano Dragon/Morfos
Red Partisan - Pal Rappy
Electro Frame - Love Rappy
Handgun:Milla - Tollaw
Handgun:Guld - Ruins Gran Sorcerer
Meteor Cudgel - Ruins Arlan
Cure/Freeze - Very Hard Pouilly Slime

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[Zack_Morris]

Kef you're awesome.

Ketchup, That's where I got my demo comet as well, much easier. What would you replace the comet with on the skyly list?

[Ketchup345]

On 2004-02-21 11:18, Zack_Morris wrote:
Kef you're awesome.

Ketchup, That's where I got my demo comet as well, much easier. What would you replace the comet with on the skyly list?


Only Chain Saw and Sealed J-Sword (even though it is a very hard drop, they do get it).



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[Garm]

i think whitill mils drop agito 1975 fairly easy...

[Ketchup345]

On 2004-02-21 11:31, Garm wrote:
i think whitill mils drop agito 1975 fairly easy...


But it is less annoying and dangerous to pipe it from Pinkal Pals (no Megid or Paralyisis to worry about).

Another good Greenill point- Very Hard Cave Nars drop the Hero/Ability. It is easier to get than the God/Ability.

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[PaleKid15]

Redria- (in no particular order)
Magic Stone "Iritista", Kef-why did you exclude this?
God Battle
MKB
DF field
Lavis cannon

Bluefull-
poor, poor bluefull. Even Kef could only do 3. And I disagree with the HP.

Pinkal-
can't reccomend pinkal for any reason. I have morals.

[Butoden]

Bluefull really sucks? I wanted to make a Bluefull Hunter, they're the Partisan ID right?

[Hrith]

On 2004-02-21 11:49, PaleKid15 wrote:
Magic Stone "Iritista", Kef-why did you exclude this?
http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif
*edits*


And I disagree with the HP.
It is still the easiest ID to get it.
And I actually mentioned 4 for Bluefull =/



On 2004-02-21 11:54, Butoden wrote:
Bluefull really sucks? I wanted to make a Bluefull Hunter, they're the Partisan ID right?
Viridia finds hella them, and is a lot better than Bluefull, IMO.

I also forgot to mention that Yellowboze is the only ID with better odds at %

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[Butoden]

I have a Viridian now thank you http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif
And thanks for the info on the Yellowbooze. I didn't know that!

[Genoa]

Yeah, i'm bored of my bluefull. Yet I keep playing with him cause he's my FOmar, and I don't want to start another one. So I have my friend play as my skyly and play as 1st player (ramarl).

[mafuwally]

The only I.D that doesnt really have any serious plus points is yellowboze in my opinion.

[Hrith]

err, without a God/Battle I wouldn't fight, so Redria > any other, IMO.
But Whitill and Yellowboze seem to be the programmers' favourites =]

[Soukosa]

On 2004-02-21 11:49, PaleKid15 wrote:
Pinkal-
can't reccomend pinkal for any reason. I have morals.

You don't have morals, you got problems. Pinkal has many high points much like Bluefull and the rest of the IDs do.



On 2004-02-21 14:35, Kef wrote:
But Whitill and Yellowboze seem to be the programmers' favourites =]

Yellowboze is a little lacking in rares, especially ID specific ones. Whitill is the ID for Rico and Flowen. I'm sure you can figure it out from there.

[lain2k3]

On 2004-02-21 14:40, Sounomi wrote:


On 2004-02-21 11:49, PaleKid15 wrote:
Pinkal-
can't reccomend pinkal for any reason. I have morals.

You don't have morals, you got problems. Pinkal has many high points much like Bluefull and the rest of the IDs do.



On 2004-02-21 14:35, Kef wrote:
But Whitill and Yellowboze seem to be the programmers' favourites =]

Yellowboze is a little lacking in rares, especially ID specific ones. Whitill is the ID for Rico and Flowen. I'm sure you can figure it out from there.



I usually agree with you on most things, But I havent seen you list any of these high points in pinkal. I would like to see them. no offense,just a request.

and I also think that redria is the best overall ID for 1st characters. whitill and yelowboze are good for second and third.

[Hrith]

Yellowbowe lacking in rares ? O__O
Red Handgun - Bartle
Red Saber - Barble
Luminous Field - Forest Hildelt (sorry Lain)
Frozen Shooter - Forest Hildetorr
Dragon's Claw - Sil Dragon
Red Scorpio - Nano Dragon
Red Sword - Melqueek
Holy Ray - Dal Ra Lie
NUG2000-Bazooka - Canabin
S-Red's Arms - Sinow Red
Smoking Plate - Ruins Arlan
Spread Needle - Ruins Merlan
Meteor Cudgel - Ruins Del-D
DB's Sword AUW 3075 - Claw
The Sigh of a God - Love Rappy
Secure Feet - VR Temple Mil Lily
Flowen's Sword AUW 3084 - VR Temple Ob Lily
Flight Cutter - VR Temple Hildetorr
Ancient Saber - VR Spaceship Gulgus
Yasminkov 2000H - VR Spaceship Hidoom
Zanba - Sinow Zoa
Yasminkov 7000V - Morfos

not half of the IDs have that many super weapons...
and I noted the ones I like and are not too difficult to obtain >_>

Speaking of which, I must add this to Pinkal
Asuka - Barba Ray
Partisan of Lightning - Gol Dragon (just found my first http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif )

[Eihwaz]

Hmm, I'm not in the mood to debate the findability of these items, but these are all pretty nice items.

In no particular order...

Redira:
1. Iritsia
2. Lavis Cannon
3. God/Battle
4. Demolition Comet
5. God/Technique

Pinkal (don't laugh):
1. Holy Ray
2. Guardiana
3. Magic Rock Moola
4. Red Saber
5. God/Mind *easy*

Yellowboze:
1. Frozen Shooter *easy, I think*
2. Luminous Field
3. ALL Enemy Parts
4. Flowen's Sword 3084
5. Attribute Plate *meh, couldn't think of any others...>.>*

Skyly:
1. Heart of Poumn *pretty easy*
2. ChainSawd
3. God/Arm *easy*
4. Sealed J Sword *HARD*
5. S-Red's Arm *hard?*

[Tsudo_Plat]

On 2004-02-21 11:07, Kef wrote:
Viridia :
Standstill Shield - VR Temple Mil Lily
Nei's Claw - Ill Gill
Madam's Parasol - Gibbles
Red Sword - Nano Dragon
Red Scorpio - Pal Rappy
God/Power - Mil Lily
God/Body - Pouilly Slime
Red Daggers - Sinow Blue (easy for me at least)
Flame Visit - Merlan
Agito 1980 - Love Rappy
Kamui - Temple Hildetorr
Agito 1977 - Spaceship Delsaber
All Katanas

Greennill :
Yasminkov 3000R - Mine Gillchich
Handgun:Guld - VR Spaceship Delsaber
Cure/Paralysis - Very Hard Pouilly Slime
Guard Wave - Pal Rappy
Spread Needle - Ruins Merlan
Agito 1983 - Temple Hildetorr
God/Luck - Temple Love Rappy
DB's Sword (AUW 3062) - Mil Lily
Morning Glory - Pouilly Slime
Plantain Leaf - Very Hard Mericarol
Hero/Ability - Very Hard Nar Lily
(I use Greennill a lot, so thats why I added so much)


Skyly :
Angel Harp - Pal Rappy
Chain Sawd - Vulmer
Heart of Poumn - Love Rappy
Yasha - VR Temple Indi Belra
Sealed J-Sword - Gi Gue

Bluefull :
Imperial Pick - Forest Gulgus-gue/Dolmdarl
Heaven Punisher - Forest Hildetorr
Cure/Confuse - Very Hard Cave Nar Lily
Holy Ray - Sil Dragon
Victor Axe - Temple Mil Lily (so-so)

Purplenum :
Psycho Wand - Cave Mil Lily
Red Handgun - Forest El Rappy
Kasami Bracer - Canabin
Yasminkov 9000M - VR Temple Crimson Assassin
Spread Needle - Ruins Merlan

Pinkal :
Berdysh - VR Temple Hildetorr
Agito AUW 1975 - Pal Rappy
Aura Field - VR Temple Del-DToo Hard to Get
God/Ability - VR Spaceship Gulgus-gue
Red Saber - Barble
Cure/Slow - Very Hard Pouilly Slime

Redria :
God/Battle - Forest Hildelt
God/Technique - VR Temple Crimson Assassin
Lavis Cannon - Pouilly Slime
Kasami Bracer - Sinow Blue
DF Field - Ruins Merlan
Monkey King Bar - Dolmolm
Cure/Shock - Very Hard Forest Hildeblue
Magic Stone "Iritista" - Forest Hildetorr

Oran :
Prophets of Motav - Dark Bringer
Twin Chakram - Tollaw/Sinow Zoa
Sense Plate - Cave Mil Lily
Aura Field - VR Temple Mil Lily
Cross Scar
Parts of Eggblaster - Temple El Rappy
Sigh of a God - Temple Love Rappy


Yellowboze :
DB's Sword AUW 3075 - Claw
Flowen's Sword AUW 3084 - VR Temple Ob Lily
Secure Feet - VR Temple Mil Lily
Red Handgun - Bartle
Red Saber - Barble
NUG2000-Bazooka - Canabin
Spread Needle - Merlan
Cure/Confuse - Very Hard Cave Nar Lily
Cure/Shock - Very Hard Pouilly Slime
Flight Cutter - Temple Hildetorr
Sigh of a God - Temple Love Rappy
All enemy parts

Whitill :
Rico's Earring - Dark Bringer
Rico's Glasses - Ruins Del-D
Flight Fan - Nano Dragon/Morfos
Red Partisan - Pal Rappy
Electro Frame - Love Rappy
Handgun:Milla - Tollaw
Handgun:Guld - Ruins Gran Sorcerer
Meteor Cudgel - Ruins Arlan
Cure/Freeze - Very Hard Pouilly Slime

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I'm too tired right now to make my own list, so here's my edited version of Kef's list. (btw, Kef you pretty much nailed what I had in mind, so thats why I'm just editing yours.) The things I added are italicized.

[Garm]

i have a new solution: lose your life, buy 3 memory cards create all 10 section id's and get them all to lvl 150... now hunt any item you want... it aint that hard http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[Armok]

On 2004-02-22 01:11, Garm wrote:
i have a new solution: lose your life, buy 3 memory cards create all 10 section id's and get them all to lvl 150... now hunt any item you want... it aint that hard http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif



I almost did that but insted just made Purpleum,skyly,whitil and redria. Basically u can get all the top rare weopons for each class with just these 4 ids.

As personally rating go its

Redria - drops everything straight away
Purpleum - good for drops
Whitill - ok has got me a couple
Skyly - shit all drops ever stupid id.

[ilr2000]

Funny.. I haven't seen anyone mention the red sword in Skyly yet. Anyway..

Skyly is good for...
-Red Sword
-Heart of Poumn
-J-Sword (It may be an impossible drop, but this is the only place it shows up.)
(Drops that I found, but prolly not best ID for...)
-Monkey King Bar
-Luminous Field
-Demolition Comet
-Meteor Cudgel
-Twin Blaze (meh)

[Ketchup345]

What about Redria's Red Handgun? It is an easy drop, not not too hard to find the enemy.

Redria also gets:
God/Arm easily, (Very Hard Cave Pan Arms)
God/Body (Very Hard Cave Nar Lilly)
Magic Rock: Moola (Very Hard Cave Poison Lillies)
An easy God/HP (Ultimate Vol Opt)

[Bibi2k4]

So what would you consider to be better: bluefull or Viridia?? I've seen that bluefullas some items i want to be the drop rates are soooo high...just wondering... http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif
By the way,you forgot to mention Syncesta in the Oran section that can be "easily" get thanks to Hildeltor (well if you're lucky enough to get it...always the same story!!)




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[Hrith]

On 2004-02-22 06:14, ilr2000 wrote:
Funny.. I haven't seen anyone mention the red sword in Skyly yet. Anyway..
Easier in Viridia.



On 2004-02-21 21:29, Tsudo_Plat wrote:
Viridia :
Red Scorpio - Pal Rappy
God/Power - Mil Lily
God/Body - Pouilly Slime
Red Daggers - Sinow Blue (easy for me at least)
Flame Visit - Merlan
Agito 1980 - Love Rappy
Kamui - Temple Hildetorr
Agito 1977 - Spaceship Delsaber
All Katanas
hmm, ok but Flame Visit is all but useful =/ and you added Katanas while I mentioned "All Katanas"


Greennill :
Agito 1983 - Temple Hildetorr
God/Luck - Temple Love Rappy
DB's Sword (AUW 3062) - Mil Lily
Morning Glory - Pouilly Slime
Plantain Leaf - Very Hard Mericarol
Hero/Ability - Very Hard Nar Lily
(I use Greennill a lot, so thats why I added so much)
I find Hero/Abilty totally useless.
Of the others you mentionned they're either useless or easier in Whitill (MG).


Bluefull :
Holy Ray - Sil Dragon
Victor Axe - Temple Mil Lily (so-so)
Victor Axe... http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif


Pinkal :
Aura Field - VR Temple Del-DToo Hard to Get
Still the second best ID after Oran.


Oran :
Parts of Eggblaster - Temple El Rappy
Sigh of a God - Temple Love Rappy
Egg Blaster is alot but A LOT easier in Skyly.
Sigh of a God, why not, but a Club of Zumiuran will do as well.

[Zarana]

Okay. Here are my Top Five Best Lists. Exclusive items are omitted, because it goes without saying that the given ID is best for finding its own exclusive items. No draws will be included, only the items an ID is the absolute best place for. The items also have to be of at least medium usefulness, so the easiest HP/Revival need not apply.

Skyly is the best for:
-Twin Blaze
-Red Sword
-Heart of Poumn
-Angel Harp
-Soul Banish

Pinkal is the best for:
-1975 Agito
-Asuka
-Berdysh
-Partisan of Lightning
-Stink Frame (V-Hard)

Oran is the best for:
-Syncesta
-Star Amplifier
-Aura Field
-Parts of Eggblaster
-Sense Plate (vastly underrated)

Yellowboze is the best for:
-Luminous Field
-Pan Arms Arms (Hard)
-NUG2000 Bazooka
-Zanba
-Yasminkov 7000V

Whitill is the best for:
-Red Partisan
-Meteor Cudgel
-Handgun: Guld
-Electro Frame
-Rika's Claw

Redria is the best for:
-DF Field
-Tripolic Shield
-Lavis Cannon
-Monkey King Bar
-Ano Rifle

Purplenum is the best for:
-Psycho Wand
-God/Ability
-Red Handgun
-Guardianna
-Anti-Android Rifle

Bluefull is the best for:
-Heaven Punisher
-Holy Ray
-Book of Hitogata
-Madam's Umbrella (V-Hard)
-Sadly, Bluefull does not have a fifth unique item it is the best for.

Greennill is the best for:
-Yasminkov 2000H
-Morning Glory
-Guard Wave
-Magic Rock "Moola" (V-Hard)
-Agito 1983 (can be ground to surpass every katana but the forged Orotiagito in power, universally equippable)

Viridia is the best for:
-Yasha
-Standstill Shield
-God/Power
-Red Daggers
-Red Scorpio

Some of these lists were easy and had items to spare, some took a lot of thought.

And just as an added bonus, the weapons each ID is the worst for! Draws are included this time. Naturally, the worst Demolition Comet (Greennill) is still better than looking for one in the IDs where it doesn't drop. Does not include items that are only found in two places. Same rules about the item being of at least medium usefulness apply.

Viridia is the worst for:
-Anti-Android Rifle
-Yasminkov 2000H
-Luminous Field
-Brightness Circle (tie, Yellowboze)
-Soul Banish

Greennill is the worst for:
-Demolition Comet
-Red Daggers (tie, Purplenum)
-Kasami Bracer
-Lavis Cannon
-Kamui

Skyly is the worst for:
-Syncesta
-Meteor Cudgel
-Agito (1975)
-Yasminkov 7000V
-Rika's Claw (tie, Purplenum/Pinkal)

Bluefull is the worst for:
-Berdysh
-Partisan of Lightning (tie, Purplenum)
-By my criteria, Bluefull does not have any other item they are the worst at finding. The smallest best list and the smallest worst list. Interesting.

Purplenum is the worst for:
-Red Daggers (tie, Greennill)
-Partisan of Lightning (tie, Bluefull)
-Rika's Claw (tie, Skyly/Pinkal)
-Electro Frame
-DF Field (tie, Whitill)

Pinkal is the worst for:
-Psycho Wand
-Smoking Plate
-Rika's Claw (tie, Purplenum/Skyly)
-By my criteria, Pinkal does not have any other item they are the worst at finding.

Redria is the worst for:
-Heaven Punisher
-Red Sword (tie, Whitill/Yellowboze)
-Red Saber
-Twin Brand
-Secure Feet

Oran is the worst for:
-Rabbit Wand
-Standstill Shield
-By my criteria, Oran is not the worst for any other items. Tied with Bluefull for the shortest list.

Yellowboze is the worst for:
-Red Sword (tie, Redria/Whitill)
-Cure/Shock
-Brightness Circle (tie, Viridia)
-Monkey King Bar
-Hitogata

Whitill is the worst for:
-Red Sword (tie, Redria/Yellowboze)
-Guard Wave
-Red Handgun
-DF Field (tie, Purplenum)
-By my criteria, Whitill does not have any other items it is the worst at finding.

Edit: And no, Kef, Skyly's Egg Parts are not easier. They may drop more frequently, but there are way more than twice as many Rappies per Temple as there are Baranz per Spaceship. 25 Rappies per Temple makes the Egg Parts a little bit easier than 5/6 Baranz per Spaceship. Doing the first rooms of the Temple (like hunting for Holiday Rappies) is the fastest way to get Egg Parts.

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Zarana on 2004-02-22 10:15 ]</font>

[Tsudo_Plat]

On 2004-02-22 10:09, Zarana wrote:

Edit: And no, Kef, Skyly's Egg Parts are not easier. They may drop more frequently, but there are way more than twice as many Rappies per Temple as there are Baranz per Spaceship. 25 Rappies per Temple makes the Egg Parts a little bit easier than 5/6 Baranz per Spaceship. Doing the first rooms of the Temple (like hunting for Holiday Rappies) is the fastest way to get Egg Parts.

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Zarana on 2004-02-22 10:15 ]</font>


Thank you Zarana, thats just what I was gonna say.

[DOG21313]

On 2004-02-22 09:28, Kef wrote:


On 2004-02-22 06:14, ilr2000 wrote:
Funny.. I haven't seen anyone mention the red sword in Skyly yet. Anyway..
Easier in Viridia.



You sure? Theres a lot more Govulmers in Caves than Nanos. I would say that Skyly is easier.

[Hrith]

Hmm I agree with you, Zarana, except on Egg Blaster and Red Sword.
Red Sword in Viridia is a real easy drop, that compensates for the lack of Nano Dragons, and Egg Blaster in Skyly is a lot easier than other IDs that also get it from SS Baranz (it's not a ship >_<). And there may be a lot of El Rappies in Temple, the drop in Oran is a lot lower.

As for personal experience :
Oran Egg Blaster = 0 (played a lot in offline multi)
Skyly Egg Blaster = 4 (played until I got Maser Beam)

Viridia Red Sword = 3 (don't play that much)
Skyly Red Sword = 2 (played A LOT)
Redria Red Sword = 2 (played more than Skyly)

[Ketchup345]

On 2004-02-22 10:09, Zarana wrote:
Greennill is the best for:
-Magic Rock "Moola" (V-Hard)


I would have to say Redria is best for this. There are more Poison Lillies in Caves than either Pan Arms in Caves or Hildebears in Temple. Also, with a certain quest, you can get up to 62 Poison Lillies in a quest.

[PaleKid15]

On 2004-02-21 12:01, Kef wrote:


On 2004-02-21 11:49, PaleKid15 wrote:
Magic Stone "Iritista", Kef-why did you exclude this?
http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif
*edits*


And I disagree with the HP.
It is still the easiest ID to get it.
And I actually mentioned 4 for Bluefull =/



On 2004-02-21 11:54, Butoden wrote:
Bluefull really sucks? I wanted to make a Bluefull Hunter, they're the Partisan ID right?
Viridia finds hella them, and is a lot better than Bluefull, IMO.

I also forgot to mention that Yellowboze is the only ID with better odds at %

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Kef on 2004-02-21 12:03 ]</font>


Wow... I corrected Kef. I'm so proud of myself. And I only see 3 items for Bluefull. Unless your counting the IP twice because of 2 places. (which doesn't make sense here) I agree that viridia is more useful than bluefull, but viridia still isn't that great if you have 3+ ID's in ultimate.

Now this is to Sounomi-
I second Lain2k3. What are these "High points" you speak of in pinkal? And you damn sure better not say agito (Fact:Agito1975/Orotiagito are just inferior lavis cannons). I have seen the pinkal drops, I have played a pinkal for quite some time, and Lain2k3 and I are not alone. About 3/4 of the people who have a pinkal, know a pinkal, or have just looked at it's drops, are disgusted by it. And for good reason. Your move. (BTW- it seems to me that you always take the other side of the argument, no matter what it is. Is this to promote intlligent conversation? Or what you truly believe?)

[Soukosa]

On 2004-02-22 16:20, PaleKid15 wrote:
Now this is to Sounomi-
I second Lain2k3. What are these "High points" you speak of in pinkal? And you damn sure better not say agito (Fact:Agito1975/Orotiagito are just inferior lavis cannons). I have seen the pinkal drops, I have played a pinkal for quite some time, and Lain2k3 and I are not alone. About 3/4 of the people who have a pinkal, know a pinkal, or have just looked at it's drops, are disgusted by it. And for good reason. Your move. (BTW- it seems to me that you always take the other side of the argument, no matter what it is. Is this to promote intlligent conversation? Or what you truly believe?)

While Pinkal is a little lacking in things, it does have a fair amount of high points, one of which, few people fail to even see. Sorry to say that I'm just not in a position for arguing at this time (personal reasons). I'll have to try to get back to you two to show you why I feel Pinkal has been underrated.

[navci]

Redria is the worst for:
-Red Saber


This is, really, really, really funny.
During my long hunt for the Magic Stone: Iritista, I have found 2 Red Sabers. One even has 20% hit untekked. :/

I still say, everyone should have at least one Redria.

[Auracom]

I agree with the fact that everyone should have a redria hehe.

1.God/Battle
2.God/Power
3.Lavis Cannon
4.Brightness Circle
5.Tripolic Shield

Just to name a few hehe.

oh yeah and ...

Kef > j00

[Tsudo_Plat]

On 2004-02-22 20:57, Auracom wrote:
I agree with the fact that everyone should have a redria hehe.

1.God/Battle
2.God/Power
3.Lavis Cannon
4.Brightness Circle
5.Tripolic Shield

Just to name a few hehe.

oh yeah and ...

Kef > j00



Tsudo_Plat > Kef > j00

http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif Thought I'd add that. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

[Hrith]

On 2004-02-22 16:20, PaleKid15 wrote:
I only see 3 items for Bluefull. Unless your counting the IP twice because of 2 places.
I do, this makes two Bluefull areas worthwhile, so it counts as two.


But viridia still isn't that great if you have 3+ ID's in ultimate.
I couldn't agree less =/
Viridia is IMO one of the only self-sufficient IDs.
Yasha, Nei's Claw, Madam's Parasol, Standstill Shield, Kamui, God/Power, God/Body, Red Saber, Red Scorpio, Rubby Bullet, Asuka, Red Dagger, Red Sword, Red Partisan, Twin Psychogun, Berdysh, Panzer Faust, God Hand, Electro Frame, Cure/Shock, Fatsia, Yasminkov 2000H, etc.

As for Pinkal, I'll help Sounomi :
Berdysh - VR Temple Hildetorr
Agito AUW 1975 - Pal Rappy
Aura Field - VR Temple Del-D
God/Ability - VR Spaceship Gulgus-gue
Red Saber - Barble
Cure/Slow - Very Hard Pouilly Slime
Asuka - Barba Ray
Partisan of Lightning - Gol Dragon
Luminous Field - Tollaw
God/Mind - Forest Gulgus-gue
Star Amplifier - Forest Hildetorr
Caduceus - Cave Mil Lily
Holy Ray - Dal Ra Lie
Rubby Bullet - Vol Opt ver2
DF Field - Ruins Del-D
Guardianna - Ruins Indi Belra
Secure Feet - Zol Gibbon
Gal Gryphon's Wing - Gal Gryphon
Hitogata - Delbiter
Tripolic Shield - Morfos
Flowen's Sword AUW 3077 - Sinow Zoa
Easier Barriers and Amplifiers
and too many Indras...

I still agree that Pinkal, Bluefull and Oran are the worst IDs, but worst does not mean bad.

[drizzle]

On 2004-02-22 12:26, Ketchup345 wrote:


On 2004-02-22 10:09, Zarana wrote:
Greennill is the best for:
-Magic Rock "Moola" (V-Hard)


I would have to say Redria is best for this. There are more Poison Lillies in Caves than either Pan Arms in Caves or Hildebears in Temple. Also, with a certain quest, you can get up to 62 Poison Lillies in a quest.



If you count online (and I do), Greennill > Redria. Max Attack 2 has something like 13 Hildebears in only a few minutes. Repeat those for an hour and you'll have more moola than you know what to do with.

[Zelgadis]

You forgot that Whitill also get Red mechs, Asuka's secure feet. A bunch of decent rares that are more common in ep. 2. Oh and they also find scapes dolls like no tomorrow.

[PaleKid15]

On 2004-02-23 06:15, Kef wrote:


On 2004-02-22 16:20, PaleKid15 wrote:
I only see 3 items for Bluefull. Unless your counting the IP twice because of 2 places.
I do, this makes two Bluefull areas worthwhile, so it counts as two.


But viridia still isn't that great if you have 3+ ID's in ultimate.
I couldn't agree less =/
Viridia is IMO one of the only self-sufficient IDs.
Yasha, Nei's Claw, Madam's Parasol, Standstill Shield, Kamui, God/Power, God/Body, Red Saber, Red Scorpio, Rubby Bullet, Asuka, Red Dagger, Red Sword, Red Partisan, Twin Psychogun, Berdysh, Panzer Faust, God Hand, Electro Frame, Cure/Shock, Fatsia, Yasminkov 2000H, etc.

As for Pinkal, I'll help Sounomi :
Berdysh - VR Temple Hildetorr
Agito AUW 1975 - Pal Rappy
Aura Field - VR Temple Del-D
God/Ability - VR Spaceship Gulgus-gue
Red Saber - Barble
Cure/Slow - Very Hard Pouilly Slime
Asuka - Barba Ray
Partisan of Lightning - Gol Dragon
Luminous Field - Tollaw
God/Mind - Forest Gulgus-gue
Star Amplifier - Forest Hildetorr
Caduceus - Cave Mil Lily
Holy Ray - Dal Ra Lie
Rubby Bullet - Vol Opt ver2
DF Field - Ruins Del-D
Guardianna - Ruins Indi Belra
Secure Feet - Zol Gibbon
Gal Gryphon's Wing - Gal Gryphon
Hitogata - Delbiter
Tripolic Shield - Morfos
Flowen's Sword AUW 3077 - Sinow Zoa
Easier Barriers and Amplifiers
and too many Indras...

I still agree that Pinkal, Bluefull and Oran are the worst IDs, but worst does not mean bad.



The problem with those is that about 80% of them are either easier to get somewhere else, available in the same place under a "better" ID, or not that good.
I do realize that I am a little unfair to pinkal, but I still think it sucks. And the fact that others agree with me only strengthens my resolve. And as for, "being the worst not making it bad." Ummm... yeah it does. There are very few Pinkal exclusive items, and you can live without them. Thus it is a bad idea to pick pinkal. And what did I say about agito? It's a crappy Lavis Cannon, and just as hard to get (for most people). IMO Pinkal isn't even the best place to get agito1975. Whitill is (and it is a "better" ID). They are equally difficult drops, but you can pipe 9 Lilies, and only 8 rappies (and the 8 rappies are fairly difficult to see without moving every pipe). I don't worry about death by megid, because I don't suck at this game. EDK+Scape dolls+me seeing all the lily's=no worries. Now for Viridia. I agree, it is a very self sufficient ID. But that only strengthens my case against it. Viridia is pretty much a compilation of other ID's, so if you have the other ID's already (my viridia was my 6th ID in ULT), it isn't super usefull. And to clarify things a little, I am offline only, so I don't pay too much attention to online drops.

[Soukosa]

On 2004-02-22 20:57, Auracom wrote:
1.God/Battle

You can always trade for one.



2.God/Power

I've collected quite a few of those now, none on Redria. Viridia and Skyly have them pipable, so if someone wants one of those, they can get them easier on those two.



3.Lavis Cannon
4.Brightness Circle
5.Tripolic Shield

There's other places for those three and with two of those, they're easier to get elsewhere.

Come on people, ST split up the rares so you would play and trade with others.
[/quote]

[PaleKid15]

Sounomi- you just destroyed any argument for pinkal (unintentionally of course)

Any of the few good pinkal drops that you can't get in a superior ID can simply be traded for. Thanks for the help.

[Hrith]

Yeah, but some people like me, Auracom, Executor, Xeno_M, VulpesMundi, Arinoma, etc. won't trade for items.

And I'm really glad at the PoL Pinkal Gol Bob gave me two days ago http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

And I want that Flowen 3077 http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_cry.gif

[Soukosa]

On 2004-02-23 11:01, PaleKid15 wrote:
Sounomi- you just destroyed any argument for pinkal (unintentionally of course)

Any of the few good pinkal drops that you can't get in a superior ID can simply be traded for. Thanks for the help.

We can just pretty much rip apart any other ID in the same way. Besides, you're still missing one of the Pinkal's biggest points.

[haruna]

Purplenum:
-Psycho Wand
-Yas 9000
-Tripolic Shield
-Demonic Fork
-God/Ability

Bluefill:
-Imperial Pick
-Heaven's Punisher
-Lavis Cannon(Sinow Red)
-Electro Frame
-Demonic Fork

Oran:
-Double Cannon parts(Lavis and Synesthas)
-Prophets of Motav(like it better than Psycho Wand)
-Ano Rifle
-Aura Field

[haruna]

On 2004-02-23 11:31, Sounomi wrote:
We can just pretty much rip apart any other ID in the same way. Besides, you're still missing one of the Pinkal's biggest points.


What, the Evil Curst? That's a Pinkal Exclusive.

[Caecilius]

...I don't think this is the right time to reveal the so-obvious-it's-staring-you-in-the-face fact about Pinkals...

[Nai_Calus]

PINKAL is the only ID to find -all- technique amplifiers. This is one of the few defendable things about it.

[lain2k3]

On 2004-02-23 11:31, haruna wrote:
Purplenum:
-Psycho Wand
-Yas 9000
-Tripolic Shield
-Demonic Fork
-God/Ability

Bluefill:
-Imperial Pick
-Heaven's Punisher
-Lavis Cannon(Sinow Red) ROFLMFAO!!!!
-Electro Frame
-Demonic Fork

Oran:
-Double Cannon parts(syncesta)
-Prophets of Motav(like it better than Psycho Wand)
-Ano Rifle
-Aura Field


Redria is the only ID with a decent chance at lavis cannon, you're fooling yourself on those drops.

[Soukosa]

On 2004-02-23 11:53, Ian-KunX wrote:
PINKAL is the only ID to find -all- technique amplifiers. This is one of the few defendable things about it.

Woah! Another person with some decent intelligence around here.



On 2004-02-23 12:04, lain2k3 wrote:
Redria is the only ID with a decent chance at lavis cannon, you're fooling yourself on those drops.

Only decent chance? *laughs*

[Bibi2k4]

what do you see more "easy" to get than the chance redria has to get it from a red slime?? i still agree that it's not like finding a monomate (i'm still looking for a lavis myself) but i don't see how it would be easier or as easy to get it by any other legal mean...i precise tha i'm absolutely not agressive here,just curious.I respect you as much as Lain or kef or Vulpus or any big players here (sorry for those i didn't mentionned) so i'd like to know your thoughts!!

[lain2k3]

Maybe Sou is thinking that purplenum and skyly have a findable lavis...because bluefull,pinkal, viridia, greenil, yellowboze, whitill, and oran sure as hell dont!

[Bibi2k4]

yeah it might be a possibility...anyway,just also wanted to add that the Syncesta from Oran make it a worthy ID in my opinion since it's very hard to get it from the other ID and that the Lavis weapons *seems* to be worth the pain to get!!

[PaleKid15]

Wow amplifiers, that justifies using a pinkal (note sarcasm). I kind of knew that. But it makes little difference. Guess what? You can trade for them too. And most people that play pso have more than one ID, so they can get all the amplifiers anyway. On top of that, some of the amplifiers aren't even good anyway. I like merges, but not enough to play pinkal. Being a Pinkal isn't the end of the world, but having other ID's (like redria, whitill, and yellowboze) certainly discourages playing with the pinkal character. Id's don't have the unbelievable impact online that they do offline. If you are online, you can simply join someone else's game and use their ID. When you are offline, you are stuck with the one you got. SUre, you can go into multi and use another ID and only play with one character, but it is quite tedious and time consuming to do so. I played with a pinkal for quite some time and foun that my gaming experience was hindered significantly by the obscene amount of storm wands I found. And unlike this scenario under other ID's (bluefull gae bolg, whitill DOL, redia- DOB...) a SW with percents is still useless after the first SW.

[Bibi2k4]

well my first character is a Pinkal and i still play it since i love my character as i've been spending time to make him growth,level up and find stuffs with him...i would say that whatever your ID is,if you love the game,the people you play with and your characters,who cares if you can't find the third leg of the semi hidden alternate boss of hell??

[navci]

On 2004-02-23 12:39, PaleKid15 wrote:
Wow amplifiers, that justifies using a pinkal (note sarcasm).


I have 3 characters in Ultimate for a while now. I have yet to see any amp that isn't a zonde, or barta, or foie. While my Pinkal friend has gotten every amplifiers in the game and enjoy switching them around. They are pretty good if you are a FO, and having easy access to them doesn't hurt either. I'd say if you have the space, why not a Pinkal?

[Hrith]

And stop that trend Palekid, Pinkal may not be to your taste, I'm grateful for many weapons it has given me, and I'm still interested in some.
If everyone starts to think "Pinkal sucks" I will not be able to find a Pinkal player to create the team for me to play with.

[lain2k3]

On 2004-02-23 13:50, Kef wrote:
And stop that trend Palekid, Pinkal may not be to your taste, I'm grateful for many weapons it has given me, and I'm still interested in some.
If everyone starts to think "Pinkal sucks" I will not be able to find a Pinkal player to create the team for me to play with.



lol! do you still need the pinkal flowens/db swords?

why dont you make your own pinkal to work with, eh?
http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

and navi, me and palekid, between redria and yellowboze, we've found every amplifier except rabarta, razonde, and blue.

and also, palekids vision of pinkal may be obscured further by the fact that his pinkal character is a humar, and neither of us like them...

[Cc08]

Pinkal definately has its strong and weak points. Although they get alot of Storm Wands, you can say something like that for every I.D. (Greennill-Justy 23ST, Redria- Diska of Braveman, Bluefull- Gae Bolg, etc.)

[DOG21313]

On 2004-02-22 11:06, Kef wrote:
Hmm I agree with you, Zarana, except on Egg Blaster and Red Sword.
Red Sword in Viridia is a real easy drop, that compensates for the lack of Nano Dragons, and Egg Blaster in Skyly is a lot easier than other IDs that also get it from SS Baranz (it's not a ship >_<). And there may be a lot of El Rappies in Temple, the drop in Oran is a lot lower.

As for personal experience :
Oran Egg Blaster = 0 (played a lot in offline multi)
Skyly Egg Blaster = 4 (played until I got Maser Beam)

Viridia Red Sword = 3 (don't play that much)
Skyly Red Sword = 2 (played A LOT)
Redria Red Sword = 2 (played more than Skyly)



Hmm... My stats are:

Viridia Red Sword = 0 (Did with friend a LOT)
Skyly Red Sword = 2 (Did with friend a LOT)

My friend was hunting one...

[Soukosa]

On 2004-02-23 17:13, lain2k3 wrote:
lol! do you still need the pinkal flowens/db swords?

why dont you make your own pinkal to work with, eh?
http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

He'd have to buy another memory card for that. He'll probably try to drag me and my Pinkal character into it.



and navi, me and palekid, between redria and yellowboze, we've found every amplifier except rabarta, razonde, and blue.

How'd you find a an Amp of Gibarta with one of those two IDs when neither can find it? Neither can find Rabarta or Razonde either.



and also, palekids vision of pinkal may be obscured further by the fact that his pinkal character is a humar, and neither of us like them...

That could influence things. Pinkal may be able to find some good HU stuff, but very much.


And on an interesting side note that I suddenly remembered, Pinkal has the second highest chance of getting a slot or more with an armor (Redria having the highest). I guess I should add the making of a chart to show that to my to do list...

[lain2k3]

i dont know whats going on with the amps or anything, all I know is that I've had most of them since lain was about level 110. I may have gotten it in skyly normal, that was the only other place i had access to then O_o...i dunno.

[Soukosa]

On 2004-02-23 20:38, lain2k3 wrote:
i dont know whats going on with the amps or anything, all I know is that I've had most of them since lain was about level 110. I may have gotten it in skyly normal, that was the only other place i had access to then O_o...i dunno.

Skyly can't find it either. Well, Here's (http://www.housoka.com/pso/findings/item.php?class=44) a listing of all the findings for the amps (long page at that).

[PaleKid15]

About the Gibarta amp, between me and Lain, we have every ID in ult except bluefull, and I am working on that. I guess when it comes down to it, personal experience conquers all. MANY disgusting things have happened to me in pinkal, and I have only found one amp with it, so it does really suck for me. My pinkal has made no contribution to any of my characters at all. The bottom line is, if I could pick 9 ID's to have in ult, I would leave out pinkal. Obviously none of us is going to change their mind, so I will despise Pinkal quietly (for now).

[Zelgadis]

I'd stick with Whitill...they find alot of good stuff overall...but the lack of rare armor sucks. Don't have a Redria...you get decent weapons for hunters. My whitill is still using a Stealth gear. He's level 153...kinda sad...

[Cantido]

Why is everybody Bashing Blefull. It is favorite ID.
It find alot of good weapons such as:
Eltro Frame
Kasumi Bracer
Agito (Real)
Dparts ver.2.10
Demo comet(really easy to get)
Berdysh
Soul Banish
Red Partisan
Partisan of lightning
Holy Ray
Imperial Pick

[Ketchup345]

On 2004-02-24 12:55, Cantido wrote:
Why is everybody Bashing Blefull. It is favorite ID.
It find alot of good weapons such as:
Eltro Frame
Kasumi Bracer
Agito (Real)
Dparts ver.2.10
Demo comet(really easy to get)
Berdysh
Soul Banish
Red Partisan
Partisan of lightning
Holy Ray
Imperial Pick


D-Parts 2.10 is a hard drop (Bulclaws are rare to come by)
Real Agito (1975)- Almost impossible drop, takes a long time (many have gone upwards of 2,000+ Tollaws). People get it faster by creating a new Pinkall or Whitill character and pipe it. Also, every ID finds it.
Demo Comet- Tied for the best place to find it (along with Redria Mils)
Soul Banish- There are very few of those enemy in the Seabed.
Red Partisan- Whitill finds easier by piping.
Holy Ray- Is the best ID for this weapon, since Forest runs take less time than either Caves or Unsealed Door.

I can't say anything about the others.

[Cantido]

I got my DParts ver.2.10 from the first Bulclaw I ever saw in very hard. I didn't know it was so rare.

[Ketchup345]

On 2004-02-24 13:10, Cantido wrote:
I got my DParts ver.2.10 from the first Bulclaw I ever saw in very hard. I didn't know it was so rare.


I was saying the enemy itself is on the rare side. The drop isn't too hard (about 1/142), but there are only a handful of Bulclaws in the Ruins.

[lain2k3]

On 2004-02-24 13:23, Ketchup345 wrote:


On 2004-02-24 13:10, Cantido wrote:
I got my DParts ver.2.10 from the first Bulclaw I ever saw in very hard. I didn't know it was so rare.


I was saying the enemy itself is on the rare side. The drop isn't too hard (about 1/142), but there are only a handful of Bulclaws in the Ruins.



Doc's secret plan...here I come.

and as far as I noticed, people were bashing pinkal, not bluefull. I like bluefull, If only for its forest and seabed.

[Sheldama]

Redria
1:God/Battle
2:God/Battle
3:God/Battle
4:God/Battle
5:mmm.... good armors and shields?

call me Baised...... but I really like godbattles. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[Butoden]

Okay I have a Greennill, Skyly, Redria and a Viridia now...

I have another (unused) MC! So I think I should make a Whittil, Yellowbooze, Pinkal and a Purplenum.

At least that's what I make of all this 'Bluefull Bashing'.

But I'm unsure about Purplenum... Either Purplenum or Oran...

[lain2k3]

On 2004-02-25 13:23, Butoden wrote:
Okay I have a Greennill, Skyly, Redria and a Viridia now...

I have another (unused) MC! So I think I should make a Whittil, Yellowbooze, Pinkal and a Purplenum.

At least that's what I make of all this 'Bluefull Bashing'.

But I'm unsure about Purplenum... Either Purplenum or Oran...



purplenum, oran, whitill, yellowboze.

If I had the choice, I'd get rid of greenil and make bluefull, too. but you definetely need purplenum and whitill.

[iamthehbomb]

What's up with you Lain? Always hating on greennill, ramars and good weapons like the yas 3k. It's just not right. I guess that you probably wouldn't like my character very much...

Anyways, to people who don't know already - steer clear of bluefull. Its supposed high points are quite difficult to find. In 300 hours of play on my bluefull (lv. 111) I never found an Imperial Pick, a Holy Ray, D Parts, or an Agito 1975. The good stuff I did find (Red Partisan, Kasami Bracer, etc.) took me an eternity to find. Maybe I was really unlucky... or maybe bluefull just sucks ass. It simply doesn't have enough high points to justify it. If for some unknown reason a crazy person makes a bluefull, beware of the gae bolg and to a lesser extent the guilty light.

[PaleKid15]

Actually, I believe Lain is quite fond of his Yas3K. And alot of people hate RAmars, because it is a widely held opinion that RAmars are strictly inferior to RAmarls (well, if you can call it an opinion). I myself don't see what's wrong with greenill. If nothng else, it was worth making mine for the 7 guard waves I got from pals, and their mines are quite good (not the best, but good). Bluefull is in the same position as pinkal (IMO). They aren't that bad for your first or second character, but once you get a few ID's in ultimate, it's not really worth it.

(Note: DO NOT start a RAmar vs. RAmarl discussion because of this post)

[lain2k3]

On 2004-02-25 19:44, iamthehbomb wrote:
What's up with you Lain? Always hating on greennill, ramars and good weapons like the yas 3k. It's just not right. I guess that you probably wouldn't like my character very much...

Anyways, to people who don't know already - steer clear of bluefull. Its supposed high points are quite difficult to find. In 300 hours of play on my bluefull (lv. 111) I never found an Imperial Pick, a Holy Ray, D Parts, or an Agito 1975. The good stuff I did find (Red Partisan, Kasami Bracer, etc.) took me an eternity to find. Maybe I was really unlucky... or maybe bluefull just sucks ass. It simply doesn't have enough high points to justify it. If for some unknown reason a crazy person makes a bluefull, beware of the gae bolg and to a lesser extent the guilty light.



first off, nothing in blueful could have taken you an eternity to find if your bluefull is only level 111. I've done about 230 full offline mines runs in search of the yellowboze kasami bracer. hell, it took me over 120 whitill FiY runs for red partisan.

and as for yasminkov 3k, it may look decent, but It really isnt a good weapon. I wouldnt be biased against greenil if puplenum wasnt strictly better.

and Ramars are too ugly for words.

[PaleKid15]

On 2004-02-26 12:27, lain2k3 wrote:


On 2004-02-25 19:44, iamthehbomb wrote:
What's up with you Lain? Always hating on greennill, ramars and good weapons like the yas 3k. It's just not right. I guess that you probably wouldn't like my character very much...

Anyways, to people who don't know already - steer clear of bluefull. Its supposed high points are quite difficult to find. In 300 hours of play on my bluefull (lv. 111) I never found an Imperial Pick, a Holy Ray, D Parts, or an Agito 1975. The good stuff I did find (Red Partisan, Kasami Bracer, etc.) took me an eternity to find. Maybe I was really unlucky... or maybe bluefull just sucks ass. It simply doesn't have enough high points to justify it. If for some unknown reason a crazy person makes a bluefull, beware of the gae bolg and to a lesser extent the guilty light.



first off, nothing in blueful could have taken you an eternity to find if your bluefull is only level 111. I've done about 230 full offline mines runs in search of the yellowboze kasami bracer. hell, it took me over 120 whitill FiY runs for red partisan.

and as for yasminkov 3k, it may look decent, but It really isnt a good weapon. I wouldnt be biased against greenil if puplenum wasnt strictly better.

and Ramars are too ugly for words.



Yas3K>Agito. lol. Purplenum is prettty much a better greenill, but greenill is still above pinkal and bluefull IMO. When you went over the drops yesterday, there were a decent amount of things in greenill that bested purplenum. Greenill isn't a heavy-weight of ID's, but its not that bad.

[lain2k3]

On 2004-02-27 09:17, PaleKid15 wrote:


On 2004-02-26 12:27, lain2k3 wrote:


On 2004-02-25 19:44, iamthehbomb wrote:
What's up with you Lain? Always hating on greennill, ramars and good weapons like the yas 3k. It's just not right. I guess that you probably wouldn't like my character very much...

Anyways, to people who don't know already - steer clear of bluefull. Its supposed high points are quite difficult to find. In 300 hours of play on my bluefull (lv. 111) I never found an Imperial Pick, a Holy Ray, D Parts, or an Agito 1975. The good stuff I did find (Red Partisan, Kasami Bracer, etc.) took me an eternity to find. Maybe I was really unlucky... or maybe bluefull just sucks ass. It simply doesn't have enough high points to justify it. If for some unknown reason a crazy person makes a bluefull, beware of the gae bolg and to a lesser extent the guilty light.



first off, nothing in blueful could have taken you an eternity to find if your bluefull is only level 111. I've done about 230 full offline mines runs in search of the yellowboze kasami bracer. hell, it took me over 120 whitill FiY runs for red partisan.

and as for yasminkov 3k, it may look decent, but It really isnt a good weapon. I wouldnt be biased against greenil if puplenum wasnt strictly better.

and Ramars are too ugly for words.



Yas3K>Agito. lol. Purplenum is prettty much a better greenill, but greenill is still above pinkal and bluefull IMO. When you went over the drops yesterday, there were a decent amount of things in greenill that bested purplenum. Greenill isn't a heavy-weight of ID's, but its not that bad.



The large majority of drops you preferred in greenil was justy over L&K14. lol.

only thing I would want a greenil for is morning glory and stupid easy guard wave.

[Hrith]

Morning Glory is very easy in Bluefull/Whitill, I got 5 in Whitill.

Guard Wave is also easy in Redria, I found 7, but that's in 175 AF runs http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif

And could you please avoid (multi-)quoting such long posts ?

[lain2k3]

On 2004-02-27 17:25, Kef wrote:
Morning Glory is very easy in Bluefull/Whitill, I got 5 in Whitill.

Guard Wave is also easy in Redria, I found 7, but that's in 175 AF runs http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif

And could you please avoid (multi-)quoting such long posts ?



alright, so greenil is worthless, Kef proves it. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

I'm just being lazy with quotes...whoops