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Zeroy
Feb 23, 2004, 06:00 PM
whats the deal with the S-RANK Twin? the database says it only adds 50 to your ATP, but in the screenshots it adds alot more than 50. I'm confused >.<

VioletSkye
Feb 23, 2004, 06:12 PM
You need to look at the GC pic. It does show only 50 to ATP. The rest of the pics are for DC and PC.

Squeege
Feb 23, 2004, 06:25 PM
The reason it's so weak is because online s-ranks have unholy grinds.

Zeroy
Feb 23, 2004, 06:35 PM
oh! ok i get it. it has a grind of 250 so thats +550 ATP at max grind, plus you can add any element to it that you want with PD's.

as for getting one, do you have to beat C-Mode all the way up to DF or can I just beat Stage 1 to get one? and if i do beat it, do i get to pick or is it random?

Firocket1690
Feb 23, 2004, 06:37 PM
Yep, It only shows a pic of a +50
If yo ufully grind it, (+250) you can get it to add a maximum of 550 ATP.

Oh, and I love the new sig, Violet. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif
What happened to Tori ? http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Firocket1690
Feb 23, 2004, 06:39 PM
Loading issues, delayed post...

Genoa
Feb 23, 2004, 06:46 PM
*drools* That would be so awesome with my FOmar... (if I could hit thing that isn't on forest or caves...)

DirtyDan311
Feb 23, 2004, 06:48 PM
with max ata the twin is damn good on a fomar. i use twin everywhere except mines and cca, where i use mechguns with my fomar. main problems is timing, you need to learn how to get a simple simple hard attack without getting interupted. once you master that, the twin is awesome.

Genoa
Feb 23, 2004, 06:51 PM
Max ATA for FOmar is like... what 165? You still can barely hit things on places like Ruins, CCA, and Seabed. I know, my other MAG has 180 dex, it maxes my FOmar, but I still miss alot. It's the downfall of FOmars... and the HP. But everything else is pretty nice, only force that exceeds 1000 ATP (1002).

VioletSkye
Feb 23, 2004, 06:55 PM
On 2004-02-23 15:37, Firocket1690 wrote:
Yep, It only shows a pic of a +50
If yo ufully grind it, (+250) you can get it to add a maximum of 550 ATP.

Oh, and I love the new sig, Violet. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif
What happened to Tori ? http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif


Thank you http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif I still love Tori, but it was time for a change lol.

Firocket1690
Feb 23, 2004, 06:59 PM
Showing off Macromedia Flash.... http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Hmm, lemme guess, the VioletSkye (c) thingy is so people won't steal your sig.

But, isn't that the idea of a signature in the first place ?! Individuality ?!??

Genoa
Feb 23, 2004, 07:11 PM
Nobody has my sig... or the Weapon within it... I'm the only one in the WORLD UNIVERSE with Frozen Shooter!

VioletSkye
Feb 23, 2004, 07:12 PM
Unless they are using a program that can nab flash movies from sites (which there are quite a few lol), no one will really be able to steal it. It mainly just shows that I made it personally. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif Oh yeah and to stay on topic, yep S ranks have great grinds lol.



<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: VioletSkye on 2004-02-23 16:13 ]</font>

Genoa
Feb 23, 2004, 07:15 PM
lol, yep. +250... man, ain't that something......................................... .................................................. ...... And um... it's.... yellowish?!... sorta like... some kind of Twin Gladius but not as yellow............. I'm going to shut up now....

Firocket1690
Feb 23, 2004, 07:23 PM
On 2004-02-23 16:11, MegamanX wrote:
Nobody has my sig... or the Weapon within it... I'm the only one in the WORLD UNIVERSE with Frozen Shooter!


*cough*

*silence*

*loud cough*

*silence*

*AHEM!*

Genoa
Feb 23, 2004, 07:27 PM
maybe a few others have it too.... but mines cooler cause... it's mine! And I got it on my 1st torr http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif . Mines the Essence of all FS's! Mine is there leader! I only get frozen when i'm not in any sort of danger, but my friends gets him in the heat of the battle. I laugh at him....

lain2k3
Feb 23, 2004, 08:29 PM
On 2004-02-23 16:27, MegamanX wrote:
maybe a few others have it too.... but mines cooler cause... it's mine! And I got it on my 1st torr http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif . Mines the Essence of all FS's! Mine is there leader! I only get frozen when i'm not in any sort of danger, but my friends gets him in the heat of the battle. I laugh at him....



I got mine on my first torr also.

and fomars with max ata (163) will have trouble hitting rappies in ult. let alone anything in caves or beyond.

Hrith
Feb 23, 2004, 08:39 PM
<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Kef on 2004-02-23 19:42 ]</font>

Hrith
Feb 23, 2004, 08:39 PM
sorry meant to preview http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif

Zeroy
Feb 23, 2004, 08:49 PM
On 2004-02-23 15:35, I wrote:
oh! ok i get it. it has a grind of 250 so thats +550 ATP at max grind, plus you can add any element to it that you want with PD's.

as for getting one, do you have to beat C-Mode all the way up to DF or can I just beat Stage 1 to get one? and if i do beat it, do i get to pick or is it random?


*really big cough*

HELLO?!?!

Ketchup345
Feb 23, 2004, 08:52 PM
On 2004-02-23 17:49, Zeroy wrote:


On 2004-02-23 15:35, I wrote:
oh! ok i get it. it has a grind of 250 so thats +550 ATP at max grind, plus you can add any element to it that you want with PD's.

as for getting one, do you have to beat C-Mode all the way up to DF or can I just beat Stage 1 to get one? and if i do beat it, do i get to pick or is it random?


*really big cough*

HELLO?!?!


You must beat all of Episode 1 Challenge Mode Online to get it, and must have a total time of 7 hours or less.

lain2k3
Feb 23, 2004, 08:54 PM
On 2004-02-23 17:39, Kef wrote:
sorry meant to preview http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif



that is fizzuckin cool! what color mag did you use for that savitri?

Nai_Calus
Feb 23, 2004, 10:01 PM
Black.

And er, my FOmar can hit just fine in Ult Ruins online with an S-rank twin... *blink* Do you have a FOmar, out of curiosity? >_>; You can do things you'd think were absolutely freaking impossible from his stats in actual practice.

Ok, stop spamming this thread, guys. </mod>

DirtyDan311
Feb 23, 2004, 10:21 PM
On 2004-02-23 15:51, MegamanX wrote:
Max ATA for FOmar is like... what 165? You still can barely hit things on places like Ruins, CCA, and Seabed. I know, my other MAG has 180 dex, it maxes my FOmar, but I still miss alot. It's the downfall of FOmars... and the HP. But everything else is pretty nice, only force that exceeds 1000 ATP (1002).



my FOmar is level 194 and i have been melee with the twin since 130. i would know what i can and cant hit. a simple simple hard combo will hit any enemy 90 percent of the time excpet stuff like del-d, delsaber etc. but basic enemies, the ones you see all the time, they are very easy to hit even with 203 ata(what your total is with max base and tiwn equipped). The FOmar takes some getting used to, i used to complain about ata, but i learned to time a simmple simple hard combo, and i hit just fine. A melee FOmar is a very challenging character, and one that keeps you playing, because every level means something.

Genoa
Feb 23, 2004, 10:27 PM
Well isn't that wonderful, I know all about the timing of the attacks, But where I like to go, the enemies aren't so willing to be hit so easily. And if you miss... somehow, they seem to hit you and interupt the attack. (I know, it's unbelievable!), and uh, even though you might have played with FOmar alot longer than me, my FOmar has had his ATA maxed and has been using Holy Ray for quite some time, which is a pretty accurate weapon, seeing it's a rifle and all. About... what 230 or something with that on? And um... still misses quite a bit. That's doing a regular, regular, charge. About the only one that does hit is the 3rd and sometimes the 2nd, and god forbid if the 1st one hits... I perfer my Repeaters w/50%hit. Though the 1st hit is all misses when i'm at cca/seabed/ruins. I don't really like to go anyway else because bluefull's findings are a bit bland... everywhere else. And I have a pretty high RAmarl, I know what good ATA and bad ATA is.

Hrith
Feb 23, 2004, 10:44 PM
On 2004-02-23 17:54, lain2k3 wrote:


On 2004-02-23 17:39, Kef wrote:
sorry meant to preview http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif



that is fizzuckin cool! what color mag did you use for that savitri?


Blue

lain2k3
Feb 23, 2004, 11:31 PM
thanks Kef.

and I dont have a fomar personally, but thats because I've played with them and HATED their performance. I value ata over every other stat, so they kinda dont appeal to me.

and I cant imagine how you can hit with 203 ata in online forest. my fomarl is ok with 210 ata on madames umbrella in offline mines w/zalure and online caves is 'meh' at best. and with weak/weak/hard combos, enemies will be hitting you all over the place, unless you runs around for a few minutes trying to get behind them.

Hrith
Feb 23, 2004, 11:42 PM
I use Flight Fan or Rainbow Baton with Aelia.
I was lucky on the Flight Fan, but the Rainbow Baton is an easy one to get hit% to, and a very powerful weapon.

Otherwise I favour single target weapons, S-Rank Twin, Red Saber, Ancient Saber, Morning Glory, etc.

Soul Banish is also among my weapons of choice on my FOmarl.

lain2k3
Feb 23, 2004, 11:45 PM
On 2004-02-23 20:42, Kef wrote:
I use Flight Fan or Rainbow Baton with Aelia.
I was lucky on the Flight Fan, but the Rainbow Baton is an easy one to get hit% to, and a very powerful weapon.

Otherwise I favour single target weapons, S-Rank Twin, Red Saber, Ancient Saber, Morning Glory, etc.

Soul Banish is also among my weapons of choice on my FOmarl.



**kills Kef**

where did you get that flight fan?

**dangles moon atomizer over Kefs head**

Firocket1690
Feb 24, 2004, 02:58 AM
On 2004-02-23 20:45, lain2k3 wrote:
**kills Kef**

where did you get that flight fan?

**dangles moon atomizer over Kefs head**


*takes Lain's last moon and runs off laughing*

Tee hee !!~

Hrith
Feb 24, 2004, 09:24 AM
I found two, one by each monster that drops it, althought the one with 30% hit was from Nano Dragon.

and this is not Freshkill

Rainbowlemon
Feb 24, 2004, 01:00 PM
Kef, you stole my Savitri!....MINE's better. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

DirtyDan311
Feb 24, 2004, 03:31 PM
On 2004-02-23 19:27, MegamanX wrote:
Well isn't that wonderful, I know all about the timing of the attacks, But where I like to go, the enemies aren't so willing to be hit so easily. And if you miss... somehow, they seem to hit you and interupt the attack. (I know, it's unbelievable!), and uh, even though you might have played with FOmar alot longer than me, my FOmar has had his ATA maxed and has been using Holy Ray for quite some time, which is a pretty accurate weapon, seeing it's a rifle and all. About... what 230 or something with that on? And um... still misses quite a bit. That's doing a regular, regular, charge. About the only one that does hit is the 3rd and sometimes the 2nd, and god forbid if the 1st one hits... I perfer my Repeaters w/50%hit. Though the 1st hit is all misses when i'm at cca/seabed/ruins. I don't really like to go anyway else because bluefull's findings are a bit bland... everywhere else. And I have a pretty high RAmarl, I know what good ATA and bad ATA is.


i know what good and bad ata is as well. my RAmar is 175, and i have had his ata maxed(249) for about 10 levels. i go hard hard hard attack just about everywhere with just about any weapon. what i mean about timing on the twin is exactly how not to get interrupted on simple simple hard. once you figure it out(its not hard, im not trying to sound like i am the master of this), you will not get interruppted doing a simple simple hard, and you will hit 90 percent of the enemies 90 percent of the time. i still miss occasionally, but if you time it right you still dont get interrupted.