strange stats - calling all Level 110 Hunewearls.

[rena-ko]

My Hunewearl behaved strange lately.

first of, when I logged off, she had a total time of 116 hours. But since I note the play-times down each day (for those charas I used), I know for sure that she had 134 hours before that 2 hours of online gaming.

so, 20 hours are missing.


I calculated her stats today and found out that they are way off.

according to this site's guide, she should have following stats:

(stat - without any materials used - with her mag diet)

H P - 688 - 688 ( 0 Mats)
T P - 593 - 593 ( 0 Mats)
ATP - 550 - 680 (65 Mats)
DFP - 212 - 232 (10 Mats)
MST - 489 - 489 ( 0 Mats)
ATA - 121 - 121
EVP - 425 - 515 (45 Mats)(and 30 Luck Mats)


so I dequipped anything and noted things down.

(stat - what she has - difference to what she should have)

H P - 718 - +30
T P - 624 - +31
ATP - 695 - +15
DFP - 245 - +15
MST - 515 - +26
ATA - 122 - + 1
EVP - 525 - +10


all this stuff doesnt make sense - the level ups could not have shifted the stats also, because none of them is even near gold status.


so what i want to know...
are this site's base stats correct?
did anything of this happen to anyone else? (loss of run-time, too high stats, etc)

the last few level ups i only did online quest runs with this char. no cmode, no anything out of the ordinary...
and on that day when the time changed, i only participated a vhard run through gal da val - no level up there.

thanks in advance

[Hrith]

well loss of run time has happened to me several times, though especially in offlime multi.

About stats, it's funny because, yesterday I was playing with Rabblerouser as Shione, and at one point I say "almost 1000 TP" (Shione was Lv 149) and Rab says "odd, my HUnewearl (his HUnl is Lv 183) only hit 1000 TP recently"
Well I know I fed Shione Mind Mats, I like to have a good Resta, and her ATP will be maxed soon enough, anyway, but I think I only fed her like 10 or so, no way I can have MST near Rab's.

I'll check the guides and tell you in a few mins...

Edit: I'm back, some of the guides have mistakes, some say RAmarl's max ATA is 240 (it is 241), guides do not mention maxed HP/TP (you just need to add 250).
About Shione I found out why her TP is high, 1st I used 14 Mind Mats, and also 11 TP mats some guy gave me (how could I forget that? >_<).

I guess that does not help you much =/ but methinks it comes from mistakes on the site's behalf.

About run time loss, though, it either comes from ST, or maybe time does not run during certain things, who knows.

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[PaleKid15]

Stupid Question #1- Any S/D on?
Stupid Question #2- Have you exploited any glitches recently?
Stupid Question #3- Are you sure you unequipped everything?

It is possible the guides are wrong, I had the stat problem a while ago with my RAcaseal.

[rena-ko]

for the "stupid questions" -

-no, fresh load - not even moved.
-no, i dont even pipe - and as i said, i just did this regular gal da val run on vhard.
-yes, definitely, thats the first possibility i ruled out.



for the guides - well, HP is technically infinite - add HP mats, add slot-items, add a last survivor (if equipable).

so my guess is, either the guide for hunewearl are wrong (at least in the matters of that 1 point ata difference...) or the timeloss caused some glitch with my materials/whatever..


i have another hunewearl, but she's level 159 and it will take a while to get her to 160 so i can check the guide... >_<


anyone with a hunewearl and a level that's dividable by 5 who could post naked base stats (with nothing equipped) and their hunyu-mat-diet?

thank you in advance


edit: she still cant use any more materials.

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[VioletSkye]

This is sorta off topic, but HP does have a limit. You can add the 250 extra from mats and from there you can only add another 250 from using an exploit. After its all maxed, you won't be able to raise it with a Last Survivor or a an HP unit. So the total HP you can add to any char is 500. After that nothing will raise it.

[lain2k3]

I never checked the guides for Hunneys until I got to level 135. All the guides have been correct from levels 135-160.

O_o I dunno whats going on.

[RadHaz]

Current stats for AekaMasaki (A2):
level 120
hp 1028 (125 hp mats)
tp 933 (125 tp mats)
atp 805 (105 pow mats)
dfp 255
mst 564
ata 126
evp 456
lck 100 (45 luck mats)



On 2004-03-01 10:37, rena-ko wrote:
My Hunewearl behaved strange lately.




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[Rogue100]

On 2004-03-01 11:38, VioletSkye wrote:
This is sorta off topic, but HP does have a limit. You can add the 250 extra from mats and from there you can only add another 250 from using an exploit. After its all maxed, you won't be able to raise it with a Last Survivor or a an HP unit. So the total HP you can add to any char is 500. After that nothing will raise it.


If you were to do this, would your HP stat be listed in gold (like other maxed stats) upon reaching lvl 200, and does this apply to TP as well?

[VulpesMundi]

I compared the stats listed on the site to my two HUnewearls and they seemed accurate. Granted they're both inbetween levels (162 and 108), they were pretty well matched versus the lower and higher levels listed. I honestly can't tell you what happened. I would say since your stats are actually higher than they should be, take it as a blessing in disguise. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

[VioletSkye]

On 2004-03-01 14:42, Rogue100 wrote:


On 2004-03-01 11:38, VioletSkye wrote:
This is sorta off topic, but HP does have a limit. You can add the 250 extra from mats and from there you can only add another 250 from using an exploit. After its all maxed, you won't be able to raise it with a Last Survivor or a an HP unit. So the total HP you can add to any char is 500. After that nothing will raise it.


If you were to do this, would your HP stat be listed in gold (like other maxed stats) upon reaching lvl 200, and does this apply to TP as well?


It doesn't display in gold, it simply won't raise any higher regardless of what you equip. Same with TP.

[Soukosa]

On 2004-03-01 11:38, VioletSkye wrote:
This is sorta off topic, but HP does have a limit. You can add the 250 extra from mats and from there you can only add another 250 from using an exploit. After its all maxed, you won't be able to raise it with a Last Survivor or a an HP unit. So the total HP you can add to any char is 500. After that nothing will raise it.

Nohra did that a little while back and he showed me that an HP unit will still raise your HP. I believe he also stated that the LS trick won't raise the HP by that much. I should probably look into this myself.

[VioletSkye]

On 2004-03-01 15:13, Sounomi wrote:


On 2004-03-01 11:38, VioletSkye wrote:
This is sorta off topic, but HP does have a limit. You can add the 250 extra from mats and from there you can only add another 250 from using an exploit. After its all maxed, you won't be able to raise it with a Last Survivor or a an HP unit. So the total HP you can add to any char is 500. After that nothing will raise it.

Nohra did that a little while back and he showed me that an HP unit will still raise your HP. I believe he also stated that the LS trick won't raise the HP by that much. I should probably look into this myself.


Hmmmm I'll have to try it again. I was sure that when I maxed my Hucast and used a God HP that it didn't go up at all. I'll try it later tonight and let you know.

[Hrith]

On 2004-03-01 14:51, VulpesMundi wrote:
I would say since your stats are actually higher than they should be, take it as a blessing in disguise. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif
http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_yes.gif

Shione will be Lv 150 soon I'll let you know

[VioletSkye]

Ok I'm getting senile. Heres the deal, I managed to nab an extra 414 HP using the glitch and an extra 250 HP with mats totalling 664 extra HP points. So without any units equipped my Hucast has a "base" HP of 2426 but with 4 God HP's it ends up being 2746, so I was wrong http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif . I was right about the Last Survivor though. Once my HP was boosted an extra 664 points the Last Survivor ceased to boost HP by 10.

[Soukosa]

414 more HP from it? Woah. That's quite a bit more than what Nohra said he got. I think he said it was like around 200 or something. He used a lv 200 HUmar, though, and that probably has something to do with it.

[VioletSkye]

Thats the highest I've ever acheived also. I think last time I tried it I got around 250 extra HP. Anyway, it was a significant increase. This was a Hucast btw.

http://www.angelfire.com/alt/rlc/hucast.jpg

[Soukosa]

That is odd. I'll try it out sometime myself and see what I come up with.

[VioletSkye]

I'm sure everyone has already seen it, but if not here is a thread on messed up play times that deals with the Leap Year. Maybe the reason Rena's stuff was messed up.

http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=77090&forum=1&1



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[Hrith]

Shione is Lv 150, everything is fine, you're just lucky. Ahhh the advantages of being a mod http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[Xeno_M]

424k EXP to go and my Hune will be 155. I'll edit this when i get there. I try tonight, but if i don't, it will be tomarrow.

Anyway, im sure you know this, but me and Vulpes were discussing a glitch having to do with C mode. Somehow by completing C mode, it allows you to use more then 150/250 materials. Vulpes has noticed this on a lot of his characters apparently. I assume you wrote down your material diet. It wasn't over 150 or anything?

And now i have a question. I thought the stat gain per level up varies at least a little bit... Is it the same for every level up? Like if you have 6 Hunes, from level 1-2 you will get the same stat boosts every time? I don't think thats the case. So i think you just got lucky and are getting large stat boosts per level up.

I'll edit my naked stats soon.

OK, im 155 now. Here ya go.
ATP: 858 - 76 pow mat = 706
DFP: 380
MST: 717 - 5 mind mat = 707
ATA: 136
EVP: 561
LCK: 70 - 30 luck mat = 10

HP: 1240 - I didn't keep track of HP mat. Sorry.
TP: 871 - No TP mat, and again 5 mind mat.

Off topic: I did 2 Ruins runs to level (Redria) and an Addicting Foods. Ruins = 4 PDs, DF Field 3slot, Diska of Braveman x2. Caves = Guard Wave 1slot, 1 PD. Now as long as im here gonna pipe a slime for lavis http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif



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[kingmurp]

My 170 Hunney

ATP 803 (29)
DFP 534 (51 i know too much)
MST 823 (29)
ATA 141
EVP 676 (35)
LCK 22 (6)

This topic came up at the right time my Hunney forgot how to level.

[rena-ko]

heh, thank you all for your time, even the highjacking http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

i collected some people's naked stats online yesterday as well and will look into all those things for a while.

sure, its more than my hunyu should have, so i can be happy and i'd actually trade in more hours for those boosts. but i'd really like to know about the 'how'.

at least she's still alive and kicking - no item loss, no mat count loss (cant use any mats besides HP and TP), no c-mode time loss. nothing besides those strange 20 hours.


for the hours - i got told yesterday online, that it could have been caused by the fact that this year is a leap year. hm... but she lost 20 hours, not 24. and i'm 99,99% sure of that.

[Auracom]

Rena is teh chosen one!111!

>_> <_< >_>

Hm strange indeed, but it should be nice to have a beefed up HUne! Maybe you can max everything? lol

[rena-ko]

i level to 115 and see if the stats set themselfes back to what they should.

so aura, this screams for a couple of IS runs.


update:
well, the trick on the frontpage worked - i got my time back. and indeed, an old note filled me in - it was 24 hours, not 20. riddle 1 solved.

rena is level 111 now, but still, it doesnt seem to reset her stats...



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[Ryu_4]

well theres only one thing i can think about that would do it...if you use multi equip...which i dont cuz im legit if you use it and equip say...a Brionac...it raises your MST by 10 correct??well if you save the game with all your weapons equipped it will permanently add that 10 mst to your base so if some of us are cheaters thats one way of explaining it...I AM NOT saying that anyone is a cheater but its the only thing i can think of http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif