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Zeroy
Mar 4, 2004, 08:13 PM
which is better for an all-casting force, FOnewm or FOnewmearl?

lain2k3
Mar 4, 2004, 08:14 PM
Depends where you like to play. episode 1, FOnewm.

episode 2, FOnewearl

its as simple as that.

magicmage119
Mar 4, 2004, 08:14 PM
newm. gets bonus to ra and gi spells i believe.

Zeroy
Mar 4, 2004, 08:16 PM
does either class have a grants boost?

lain2k3
Mar 4, 2004, 08:19 PM
check the guides.

and no.

Firocket1690
Mar 4, 2004, 08:21 PM
The guides (http://www.pso-world.com/sections.php)

And you just want a boost to use the insanely strong tech that (almost) gurantees kill. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

LoreSeeker
Mar 4, 2004, 08:23 PM
Both classes have their ups and downs. FOnewm can do a little bit more damage despite having less MST than a FOnewearl (I have tested this with maxed MST on both classes and no weapons/boosting stuff). The Ra tech boost really helps out a lot, but FOnewearls seem better to me for a couple reasons. First off, they have a lot more MST/TP potential, so they probably won't run out of TP as much while you're nuking enemies. Second, they don't look ugly as sin.

joluh
Mar 4, 2004, 08:43 PM
I'd say FOnewm, and about the FOnewearl's more MST/TP... well let's say a FOnewearl needs 2 foies to kill 1 enemie, then there are 10 enemies... 20 foies... let's say they take 50 MST each... =
1000TP... Now FOnewm 5 RAfoies to kill the 10 of them, the rafoie takes let's say 100 MST... = 500

^.^



On 2004-03-04 17:23, LoreSeeker wrote:
Both classes have their ups and downs. FOnewm can do a little bit more damage despite having less MST than a FOnewearl (I have tested this with maxed MST on both classes and no weapons/boosting stuff). The Ra tech boost really helps out a lot, but FOnewearls seem better to me for a couple reasons. First off, they have a lot more MST/TP potential, so they probably won't run out of TP as much while you're nuking enemies. Second, they don't look ugly as sin.


FOnewms aren't ugly, FOnewms are the best character in the game =D, and they look very well =D, but it's ok, i like the fact that 99% of PSO players hate FOnewm for their look, as they can't see that they look better than the other males, the costume it's funny and elegant, the hats are nice, the facepaint it's better than the other FOs, and he's teh killing machine!!! but i like that just a few can see that, so then 0.01% of the PSO poblation are FOnewms!!! YAY!!! we're teh uniqueness XD

You know who's ugly!?!? RAMAR!!!

lain2k3
Mar 4, 2004, 08:53 PM
http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif

lets not turn this into a fashion victim competition, guys.

FOnewearls>episode 2 (penetrating megid)

FOnewms>episode 1 (RA and GI tech bonuses)

your pick after you decide which places you like better.

and one thing - FOnewms level up faster..

RicoRoyal
Mar 4, 2004, 08:55 PM
Well said joluh!

As for the rest of you, try to keep the FOnewm bashing to a minimum. The last time someone made a topic that led to FOnewm bashing (see every other topic), well.... I had to resort to saying some rather nasty things. This topic is about choosing between FOnewearl or FOnewm. If people don't like the way FOnewm looks, then I couldnt possibly see why they would choose a FOnewearl. They are like male/female variations of each other. Duh...

Back on topic. I'd have to agree with joluh, go for the FOnewm.

KaFKa
Mar 4, 2004, 09:07 PM
those evil, unholy things called FOnewearls...

why?

me-gid

thank you, and have a nice day

joluh
Mar 4, 2004, 09:09 PM
Thanks for the support RC4

And yeah i know, he just asked the best caster... but hey there's no reason using something you don't like how it looks ^_~

Also i had to do that because everyone it's always saying bad things about my FOnewms, just because many people "loves stereotypes" and likes calling their characters Shoot, Killer, Goku, 1337, etc...

And true that, you could say in PSO there are only 6 gameplaying styles, just pick if you wanna use the male or the female version, i don't have problem using just male or just female, but i like using at least 1 male so i can relate to him a lot more than with the females

Also, FOnewm can do it very well at EP2... all you need there it's Barta and Zonde

Equip your FOnewm with Yellow Merge + Ice Dragon Staff or Blue Megere + Storm Wand Indra, or any of those 2 merges with the c-sorceror's cane and just go and kick ass ^.^

Reality_Check
Mar 4, 2004, 09:11 PM
Not to start anything here, but I do agree. FOnewm are as Ugly as sin (In their own special, Jestery sort of way)

But lets look at it this way...




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I'd say FOnewm, and about the FOnewearl's more MST/TP... well let's say a FOnewearl needs 2 foies to kill 1 enemie, then there are 10 enemies... 20 foies... let's say they take 50 MST each... =
1000TP... Now FOnewm 5 RAfoies to kill the 10 of them, the rafoie takes let's say 100 MST... = 500

^.^


Well, for starters, lets say this. (These are Facts)

If a Foie is Lvl 10. It takes 16 Tp with a Power of 550.

A Rafoie at lvl 10. It takes 32 Tp with a power of 548.

Now with 10 enemies. You'll probably hit, lets say 3 at a time with Rafoie.

Ok. Now see this chart.

Foie: 10x16= 160 TP x However many hits it takes.
Rafoie: 32x4= 128 TP x However many hits it takes.

BUT! By the time you have the MST for Rafoie lvl 10, you have enough for Foie lvl 18! Soooooo look at this...

Foie lvl 18: TP: 27 Power: 1020!

So, 1 Foie to over kill things.
So, lets say it takes 3 RAfoies to kill things here.

Foie: 27x10 = 270 TP
Rafoie: 32x12 = 384 TP

See the difference now?

joluh
Mar 4, 2004, 09:27 PM
On 2004-03-04 18:11, Reality_Check wrote:
Not to start anything here, but I do agree. FOnewm are as Ugly as sin (In their own special, Jestery sort of way)

But lets look at it this way...




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I'd say FOnewm, and about the FOnewearl's more MST/TP... well let's say a FOnewearl needs 2 foies to kill 1 enemie, then there are 10 enemies... 20 foies... let's say they take 50 MST each... =
1000TP... Now FOnewm 5 RAfoies to kill the 10 of them, the rafoie takes let's say 100 MST... = 500

^.^


Well, for starters, lets say this. (These are Facts)

If a Foie is Lvl 10. It takes 16 Tp with a Power of 550.

A Rafoie at lvl 10. It takes 32 Tp with a power of 548.

Now with 10 enemies. You'll probably hit, lets say 3 at a time with Rafoie.

Ok. Now see this chart.

Foie: 10x16= 160 TP x However many hits it takes.
Rafoie: 32x4= 128 TP x However many hits it takes.

BUT! By the time you have the MST for Rafoie lvl 10, you have enough for Foie lvl 18! Soooooo look at this...

Foie lvl 18: TP: 27 Power: 1020!

So, 1 Foie to over kill things.
So, lets say it takes 3 RAfoies to kill things here.

Foie: 27x10 = 270 TP
Rafoie: 32x12 = 384 TP

See the difference now?



Not sure, i won't look at guides or something but may be true, but FOnewm kills everything faster ^.^

Aaaanyway, he'll pick the FOnewearl tho =P, everyone does

WE DON'T WANT THE ACCEPTATION OF EVERYONE, WE LIKE QUANTITY OVER QUALITY ((FONEWMS SPEAKING))

Zeroy
Mar 4, 2004, 09:30 PM
On 2004-03-04 18:27, joluh wrote:
Aaaanyway, he'll pick the FOnewearl tho =P, everyone does


someone's phychic http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

EDIT: btw, my best friend's brother has a FOnewm, he loves them as much as the loves RAmars



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lain2k3
Mar 4, 2004, 09:41 PM
On 2004-03-04 18:30, Zeroy wrote:


On 2004-03-04 18:27, joluh wrote:
Aaaanyway, he'll pick the FOnewearl tho =P, everyone does


someone's phychic http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

EDIT: btw, my best friend's brother has a FOnewm, he loves them as much as the loves RAmars



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It's psychic.

and RAmars are the ugly ones. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

and reality check, those numbers are about switched when you get up to level 26-30 techniques...because foie ends up costing 5 more tp than rafoie...

Zeroy
Mar 4, 2004, 09:47 PM
On 2004-03-04 18:41, lain2k3 wrote:
It's psychic.


i hate spelling anyways



On 2004-03-04 18:41, lain2k3 wrote:
and RAmars are the ugly ones. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif


i agree http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smilejap.gif

Hrith
Mar 4, 2004, 10:44 PM
http://membres.lycos.fr/sanrev/hedoba2.jpg

Need I say more ?

LoreSeeker
Mar 4, 2004, 10:50 PM
and RAmars are the ugly ones. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif



No.

Zeroy
Mar 5, 2004, 08:03 AM
its a matter of opinion... dont get mad because we dont like the way your fav. char looks. my fav. class is the HUmar, but most people hate 'em, and i dont care.

Tsukitesua
Mar 5, 2004, 09:23 AM
I never played as one i deaned to get away from um no offense I don't like the look thats all FOnewm looks kinda like a clown
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PaleKid15
Mar 5, 2004, 09:44 AM
1. Rafoie hits just about everything in the room, not just 3 or so enemies

2. Basic techs does ALOT of damage with FOnewearl and is great when there is only one enemy (bosses)

3 Gifoie owns both of the others IM(C)O. More damage than Rafoie, bigger range, and possible to hit multiple waves w/ 1 gifoie, more targets than foie and it's cheaper.

As Lain2k3 said, Newm=ep1, Newearl=ep2

I would reccomend the Newm. He has better animations, techier boosts, and you can always fix the penetrating megid problem with demonic fork.

Nai_Calus
Mar 5, 2004, 10:10 AM
Offline, FOnewm. Online, FOnewearl.

You're never going to be dealing even remotely effective damage with either online. Enough to let a HU hit a couple less times, but not enough to solo. Might as well go with the one that'll give you an easier time supporting a team.

I like FOnewms solo offline, but I have a tendancy to loathe the stupider ones in teams who blindly spam Rafoie with no regard to elemental weaknesses or damage cancel. The intelligent ones are few and far between. There are a bunch of stupid FOnewearls, too.(Do NOT use Megid with me in a team. I will loathe you for all eternity. Lots of other people will too. If you must use it, wait until everyone has hit everything at least once before you start dropping half of seabed in one shot.)

FOnewm: 1.3x damage Gi/Ra techs
FOnewearl: 1.3x damage simple techs, penetrating Megid, 2x Resta/Anti range.

They can both be made ugly or decent. *shrug* Most FOnewearls I've seen are ugly. XP

lain2k3
Mar 5, 2004, 03:00 PM
On 2004-03-04 19:44, Kef wrote:
http://membres.lycos.fr/sanrev/hedoba2.jpg

Need I say more ?



http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_nono.gif

Using P-wand to sway his vote is cheating! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Hrith
Mar 5, 2004, 03:14 PM
On 2004-03-05 12:00, lain2k3 wrote:
http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_nono.gif

Using P-wand to sway his vote is cheating! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif
http://membres.lycos.fr/sanrev/hedoba1.jpg

Better ? http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

navci
Mar 5, 2004, 03:33 PM
http://img32.photobucket.com/albums/v97/Auracom/PSO%20snaps/ShiroSiev.jpg

The newms don't have to be ugly. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif Mine is cute as a button.... a BIG button, I suppose.

*points at title* Of course I am picking the newm. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif
To whoever that suggest foie and rafoie at level 10 calculation, I'd like to say this. By the time you have lvl 30 techs, it matters very little which one you use. Your TP is going to go down like crazy anyway.

Online with a tech newm is quite a challenge, as Ian already said, online monsters have insane resistance so you won't be doing much damage with techs anyway. But it's a challenge, and a fun one to try to SD everyone, heal and anti everyone.

While I like the newearls and I think they are also cute as a button. I like RA-spells. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

edit: spelling
And I also like Gi-techs. Penatrating megid is useful, but then well, hm, you can always equip something to make that happen.

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