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anwserman
Mar 17, 2004, 11:38 PM
Yes. I am in college. Ranting about high-school romance. WHAT THE HELL IS THE BIG DEAL WITH HIGH SCHOOL DATING?!?!?!?!?!?! It pisses me off MAJORLY.

Ok, you have to see where I'm coming from to understand why I am rather pissed off about this subject... BECAUSE I HEAR IT ALL THE TIME. Regardless, a couple things that somewhat angers me, or fuels the fire and my thinking behind the subject.

1) I work at a DQ. With high-school students. EVERYTHING I HEAR is about DATING. Its not a bad thing at all, and like what one employee stated, Nikki, is that you can learn some important things about dating in high-school, assuming you're with the right person. However, it gets me really, really pissed off when they sit there and go on and on and on about how they can't find a date, or that somebody cheated on them.

ITS HIGH-SCHOOL FOR CRYING OUT LOUD. 95% of the time, dating in high-school = sex. Nothing else, once you get sick of someone, you get dumped and your former boy/girlfriend is already hooked up the next day. IT IS NOT THE END OF THE WORLD. Its almost guarenteed that any highschool "romance" isn't going to last out of highschool. I didn't say it will NEVER work, but almost always it won't.

2) I never dated in high-school. Why? I'm different. Regardless of that matter, you look at how people get treated like shit in school and over how much drama appears over the subject. Wait until after high school for crying out loud! It means NOTHING in school unless you've actually got lucky and found Mr. or Ms. Right. And don't fall into peer pressure to date or to have, it only leads to unnecessary pressure, heartache and depression. Which, leads to thought number 3.

3) Kelli and Mitch. I've had conversations with the two of them about sex.... they've dated a little bit, and from what I've heard from the both of them, sex isn't that big of a deal. Kelli was never pressured into the whole date/sex thing, so it wasn't a big deal (she's female, females don't typically pressure each other into sex from what I've seen or heard of.) Mitch, on the other hand, was being pressured into it but resisted. And waited honestly. He avoided romance really and made sure it was with a girl he liked. Same with Kelli, except with a guy. You know what? He has no "romantic" trauma in his life (along with no children, unlike some of his friends), and Kelli is getting over some of hers right now... ironically, her problem was dating a highschooler. Not really a problem anymore, they're no longer friends. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Both waited until late into their Senior year, to consimate and/or start to date. Yay. No big deal there, no trauma, no unnecessary tears spilt over why so and so popular person dumped them, NOTHING. Its the way to be.

4) I've never dated, and I'm still a virgin. Damn proud of it, too. I could care less about what people think... I don't care anymore. I'm in college, and dating is not a concern. Personally, I'm more interested in making a close net friends to rely on then actually finding somebody. Because I don't think I'll find anybody around here... its kinda like highschool. (Gogebic Community College is known as the 13th Grade.) Honestly, it is but with some people I don't know. Cliches and groups still exist somewhat, but its no big deal. No trauma, nothing.

And when I sit there and look at some of the highschoolers whom I work with, and who talk about the emotions that go through dating, I tell them it means nothing. Some know what I'm going to say, and say that it means nothing during high-school. Perhaps I'm wrong, perhaps it does mean something in high-school. But the thing is... if its all about the sex, its about nothing at all. It means nothing about human emotions, then its about nothing. Its called finding somebody to screw, and once you get bored you find someone else then.

I'm glad I avoided the whole situation in regards to dating, in highschool that is... did I miss much? Not really, the only thing I can truely think that I missed is unneeded heartbreak and broken trust.... and the ever-so-neat rumor mill.

_Ted_
Mar 18, 2004, 12:17 AM
Answer man, you really should just change your title to "Master of the Dead Horse Society."

As for high school romances hardly ever lasting, my aunt and uncle dated throughout high school and they are still together, but they are the only such case that I know of...

As for high school dating, do most really cases end in sex, or just the cases that your horny coworkers speak of? I find it hard to believe that High school dating=sex.

anwserman
Mar 18, 2004, 12:25 AM
On 2004-03-17 21:17, _Ted_ wrote:
Answer man, you really should just change your title to "Master of the Dead Horse Society."

As for high school romances hardly ever lasting, my aunt and uncle dated throughout high school and they are still together, but they are the only such case that I know of...

As for high school dating, do most really cases end in sex, or just the cases that your horny coworkers speak of? I find it hard to believe that High school dating=sex.



No idea, really. I'm just judging from what I hear from my coworkers. Though, do note that I didn't say all cases result in sex, just that from what the majority I've heard of do.

I tried to phrase my post correctly, as not so say "all" and "never" as inclusive statements. Its just that... its pissing be off. Don't know why, it doesn't involve me, but when I sit there and hear people cry about how their boyfriend of a month or two dumped them... GET A LIFE.

Then again, I've never been in those shoes before so its easier to say that. But in all honesty, high-school can be filled with so much insecurity and bitterness, that it isn't exactly a good place to build a lasting relationship. Yes, some relationships do come out of high-school (most noticably, my manager's sister. that was one wicked story, involving running away with her boyfriend to California [they made it to Idaho before getting caught], and teenage pregnancy. They've been married 15+ years now!) but, two or three years from highschool, most if not all of those relationships will mean nothing.

Unless you make them mean something.

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_Ted_
Mar 18, 2004, 12:37 AM
On 2004-03-17 21:25, anwserman wrote:


On 2004-03-17 21:17, _Ted_ wrote:
Answer man, you really should just change your title to "Master of the Dead Horse Society."

As for high school romances hardly ever lasting, my aunt and uncle dated throughout high school and they are still together, but they are the only such case that I know of...

As for high school dating, do most really cases end in sex, or just the cases that your horny coworkers speak of? I find it hard to believe that High school dating=sex.



No idea, really. I'm just judging from what I hear from my coworkers. Though, do note that I didn't say all cases result in sex, just that from what the majority I've heard of do.

I tried to phrase my post correctly, as not so say "all" and "never" as inclusive statements. Its just that... its pissing be off. Don't know why, it doesn't involve me, but when I sit there and hear people cry about how their boyfriend of a month or two dumped them... GET A LIFE.

Then again, I've never been in those shoes before so its easier to say that. But in all honesty, high-school is filled with so much insecurity and bitterness, that it isn't exactly a good place to build a lasting relationship. Yes, some relationships do come out of high-school (most noticably, my manager's sister. that was one wicked story, involving running away with her boyfriend to California [they made it to Idaho before getting caught], and teenage pregnancy. They've been married 15+ years now!) but, 10 years from now those relationships and trauma will mean nothing.

Unless you make them mean something.



The problem with just saying Get A Life is that for some of them their short term relationships are a rather large part of their life. It seems to me that these relationships put plenty of emotional stress on them and even though deep down they know that none of their high school romances are going to last, they still feel bad when they end. Why they would keep getting in and out of relationships like that is a mystery to me though.

You shouldn't really let their conversations about their relationships bother you though. Unless, they wine about it endlessly, then you would be well within your rights to beat them sevearly with a blunt object. However, don't forget that they are between being adults and children, so they have a want for relationships, but don't always have the proper thought processes to back it up.

Whoops, kinda missed the lack of the word all up there...

Scejntjynahl
Mar 18, 2004, 01:20 AM
They are just trying to define themselves as "adults" by dating. It is a way to demonstrate to others they are no longer merely "children"... unfortunately they fail to see the whole point of dating. To some dating is the means to an end. Like you said, perhaps sex. But there is also to the ego boost and the boost of your "status" in the school. Are you the stud or the dud (for guys generally, it is a boost) But for girls its a nightmare no way how you slice it. If you hold out, your a fridgid bitch, but if you let it happen, then you are easy (unfortunately become famous for the wrong reasons, liked by all boys and hated by other girls).

So in effect they dont prove their maturity at all, they just accomplish to still be kids that have sex.

Majadamus
Mar 18, 2004, 01:25 AM
However, don't forget that they are between being adults and children, so they have a want for relationships, but don't always have the proper thought processes to back it up.

Just ignore us teenagers we are really fkn screwed up! Well, I'm not. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif I avoided dating in high school and still am avoiding it. I just don't think I'd spend much time with anyone really. I'm hardly in contact with my friends now since I started college. As far as relationships go, that shit is on hold. I got papers to write, books to read, tests to take, money to make, and videogaaaaames to play! The last thing I want is some chick naggin at me about how I don't spend time with her, fuck that.

To the original poster: Be lucky you're not caught up in that drama....yet.

kingmurp
Mar 18, 2004, 10:33 AM
From my experience dating hasnt really involved much past high school, and I've dated older women. The most mature person I've ever dated was 2 yrs younger than me, not saying much on that one tho.

Ness
Mar 18, 2004, 10:35 AM
I agree with you, answerman. As a high schooler I am tired of listening to all the drama that goes on. Most of the time, it only happens between the "popular" kids, but they have so much social influence that even those outside of the main circuit are affected by some of the stuff that goes one. Most of the love relationshps my friends have aren't about sex, but I live in the convervative capital of the US.

Cowboy
Mar 18, 2004, 12:04 PM
Alot of them are at the age where they are just starting to seriously date, and it's new to them, so they're going to want to talk about. The majority of people in the High School age bracket are inexperienced in seriously dating, and like it and just want to talk about what they like.

Sortof on topic, the last two relationships I've been in both ended over the girl moving too fast, one of them wanting to be exclusive after 1 date, calling me 10 times a day, inviting me to go off for a week with her family to the beach, and letting me hear ALL of her problems...

Pancake
Mar 19, 2004, 01:35 AM
You know what, I hate High School Dating as well, stupid kids. Then they go and cheat on their Girlfriend/Boyfriend. They text their mates in class (Cell Phones piss me off when brought to school)are tardy because they were making out. Damn High School Romances shall Burn in Hell! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif



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Armok
Mar 19, 2004, 08:18 AM
I had mainly female friends throughout my early teen years and have to say there is nothing worse than the whole teenage girl thing of 'you like *name don't you, want me to tell her* etc. I could not stand that stuff and had to liston to it alot.

Heres a quote from a girl which she said, when my friend said he really liked her.
'I like you, but I don't know if I like you right now'
plz some one female explain this one to me.

On a side note: The guy in question has now spend 300 pound on a trip to escort her and her friend around europe and is still 'just' friends with her 6 months on.

HAYABUSA-FMW-
Mar 22, 2004, 01:47 AM
Well what happens in life happens for a reason. The reason however, I do not know.
And then again some things will always happen year after year.
Nothing you can do about it really except be like 'anwserman' and try to discuss it when you get a chance with co-workers(teenagers) you consider friends and try to guide everyone in the right direction. If they listen they listen, if they don't they don't, no worries-life will go on for both you and them.

I have the worst luck around women and relationships.
Don't ask me anything!

Blitzkommando
Mar 22, 2004, 02:02 AM
Meh, I hate them... Stupid people making out in front of my locker. Then getting mad at me trying to get to my locker. :/ It is annoying to see all these people making out in school, I mean, can't they do that without messing up the traffic in school? I don't have enough time between classes as is and to have people eating each other's face out, blocking the hall, is, to phrase it nicely, annoying.

HAYABUSA-FMW-
Mar 22, 2004, 02:17 AM
On 2004-03-21 23:02, BLITZKOMMANDO wrote:
Meh, I hate them... Stupid people making out in front of my locker. Then getting mad at me trying to get to my locker. :/ It is annoying to see all these people making out in school, I mean, can't they do that without messing up the traffic in school? I don't have enough time between classes as is and to have people eating each other's face out, blocking the hall, is, to phrase it nicely, annoying.


The worst is though having them cut class(teenagers) and hang out at the bus stop where I have to go to get to work and then ask me for "condoms" because they just "got out of school", and I look like some stupid punk high school kid to them because I have on a backpack for my stuff I gotta bring to work everyday.

I mean you should protect yourself if you are doing that sort of thing with people you hardly know, but don't go asking strangers at bus stops for condoms. I would feel like a bastard if I gave some high school freshmen some condoms. I however have never been known to walk around holding condoms so no doubt it was no problem for me to just mind my own business and not get involved.

I got to work and told everyone and they had a good laugh about the degrading society in this town because of all the stupid teenagers in it acting bad for no reason. Hell I'm still technically a teenager but I don't do any of the bad stuff these kids around here do.

KaFKa
Mar 22, 2004, 02:42 AM
high school is a deranged place, with the popular kids deciding everything for the general population

however, when i was in high school i was in the "counter culture" which basically meant that it was just a smaller group of people that like to wear black and have some reason to hate normal society. but at the same time they are the perfect example of society in general.

oh wait, this is about high school dating...

most of the time in the general population of high school, unless you're either A: a gang banger or B: part of the 'counter culture' the relationships dont end up in sex nine times out of ten.

i would go on, but that would be pointless, yeah?

(anwserman, you can PM me if you want to hear more)