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Xero_Silvera
Apr 14, 2004, 03:16 PM
I was wondering about the red sword. I keep hearing that its massive, even large compared to a regular sword. Anyone have a pic of this thing? (tekker shots are ok, but id rather have a wielded one ^.^)
Thx~
-xero
ps: just found stag cutlery, on an unrelated side note. Damn gulgus know who their cowboy is now.. heh heh..

Fredrick
Apr 14, 2004, 03:22 PM
Im pretty sure its the same size as a normal sword...but I could be wrong. (This humar is short, normaly it does not look this big)

http://www.pso-world.com/images/items/redsword01.jpg

Xero_Silvera
Apr 14, 2004, 03:25 PM
Hmm.. is that a pic of your character?
If so, could you get a pic of him with a normal sword? It looks more broad then normal swords, but it doesnt look any longer =
thx for pic
-xero
EDIT: ps: stag cutlery tekked out to 0/25/50/0 =D not bad, now me hucast has a new toy till he can use demo.



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Hrith
Apr 14, 2004, 03:29 PM
The reason why Red Sword is ugly (I mean it, the polygons are just so grossly designed, simply waful) :
Red Sword = su><0rx
http://romain.bernardi.free.fr/rsword.png

S-Rank Sword = r0><0rz
http://romain.bernardi.free.fr/isword.png

http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

Fredrick
Apr 14, 2004, 03:30 PM
Thats noy my humar lol. Its psow picture.

Xero_Silvera
Apr 14, 2004, 03:42 PM
thx for pics yall, im happy now. And red sword does look kinda crappy, but scince its the 2nd best sword in the game, ill use it when i find it, hehe.
-xero

Hrith
Apr 14, 2004, 03:58 PM
2nd best sword ???!!!!!!!!!111oneoneone!!
Here is how I see things :
1) Tsumikiri J-Sword (never tried, but I bet it just is)
2) S-Rank Sword
3) Chain Sawd
4) Zanba
5) Flowen's Sword AUW 3084
6) Red Sword
7) Sealed J-Sword

2nd best, huh ?

Ketchup345
Apr 14, 2004, 04:03 PM
On 2004-04-14 13:58, Kef wrote:
Here is how I see things :


Not everyone has the exact same opinion.

NiNeTeeN69
Apr 14, 2004, 04:05 PM
As far as ATP goes it is probably one of the best, i dunno why ya'll think it looks crappy i think it looks much better than a regular sword IMO.
I still think Dark Flow & Last survivor look the coolest tho.



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Dragon_Ash
Apr 14, 2004, 04:07 PM
hmm, here's how i always thought it was.. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif

1) Tsumikiri-J
2) Red Sord
3) S-Rank Sword
4) Chain Sawd
5) Sealed-J
6) Zanba
7) Dunno.. never thought about any after that http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif

Hrith
Apr 14, 2004, 04:12 PM
I know Ketchup, why emphasize it, though ? http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_confused.gif

Stats-wise S-Rank Sword > Red Sword, and by far (considering custom special).

Now I like Chain Sawd, Zanba and Flowen 3084 better for their specials.

NiNeTeeN69
Apr 14, 2004, 04:18 PM
Kef,does Zanbas special have a better chance of killing than the sealed J sword, i never got a chance to use Zanba but it says it can slice through an enemy in a single stroke or sumtin like that... im just guessing its special was kinda like the J-sword.

Fredrick
Apr 14, 2004, 04:21 PM
Well the J sword special is instant death (does not work most of the time) And the other one (cant spell it) is berserk. Much better IMO (In case you did not know berserk is take away 1/5 of your remaining life to do 2x heavy damage.)

NiNeTeeN69
Apr 14, 2004, 04:24 PM
oh i see, well thanx, does it miss alot when you do the beserk special or does it have the same accuracy as a critical hit? and isnt that what the soul eater does, but it seem to drain like half your HP.

Hrith
Apr 14, 2004, 04:34 PM
Zanba has good ATA for a Sword, more than Red Sword for instance, the special usually does not miss if you do either weak-weak-special or weak-heavy-special, note that HUmar has 9 more ATA than HUcast, and also has Resta, best HUmar Sword, IMO, by far (only HUmar and HUcast can equip Zanba).

NiNeTeeN69
Apr 14, 2004, 04:41 PM
Well i use S-Parts Ver2.01 which gives me an addition 15 ATA over my MAX limit, so that would be good for that too eh?
HUcast Maxes out at 191 ATA but with S-parts it goes up to 206 ATA.
My personal Fav Shiled.

Hrith
Apr 14, 2004, 04:44 PM
a good shield, true, but it will lower your DFP drastically, thus putting you in much danger since Berserk will lower your HP very fast.
Up to you.

Xero_Silvera
Apr 14, 2004, 04:44 PM
On 2004-04-14 13:58, Kef wrote:
2nd best sword ???!!!!!!!!!111oneoneone!!
Here is how I see things :
1) Tsumikiri J-Sword (never tried, but I bet it just is)
2) S-Rank Sword
3) Chain Sawd
4) Zanba
5) Flowen's Sword AUW 3084
6) Red Sword
7) Sealed J-Sword

2nd best, huh ?


I like it better when your are helpful, not opinionative. Like ketchup said, my opions and yours are different. Red sword is #2 IMO.
Tsumikiri J-Sword = I cant obtain this until MUCH later.
S-Rank Sword = I am offline only. This is a no-go.
Chain Sawd = While having greater Ata then the red sword, I prefer god/arm and red sword over god/arm chain sawd. Red Sword has more ATP.
Zanba = out of the question. Hard to obtain, impossible for hucaseal to use.
Flowens Sword AUW 3084 = I'm a skyly. Can't obtain the flowens sword 3084 with any of my chars (no yellowboze) and Red Sword has greater atp, both max grinded i dunno.
Sealed J-Sword = This would probly be after red sword also, but before it until i got the TJS.

Now you see how it is when people post against your opinions?
-xero

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SJ
Apr 14, 2004, 04:48 PM
S rank sword owns the red sword.
You can cystomize as well.

Hrith
Apr 14, 2004, 04:49 PM
you totally missed the point, your opinion is not against mine, it's different, and on a side note mine is a whole less biased.

I did say "how I see things", stop bitching me.

Xero_Silvera
Apr 14, 2004, 04:50 PM
Yes, and I agree to that. But im offline only, as posted above. So its not available to me =)
-xero

SJ
Apr 14, 2004, 04:56 PM
On 2004-04-14 14:50, Xero_Silvera wrote:
Yes, and I agree to that. But im offline only, as posted above. So its not available to me =)
-xero


Do something about it, online rocks http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif
But on topic -
I'd say you should choose Chain Sawd over Red Sword.
Nicer effect, nicer look, nicer sound http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif
But id say srank is better than tj..

Xero_Silvera
Apr 14, 2004, 05:02 PM
[/quote]
Do something about it, online rocks http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif
But on topic -
I'd say you should choose Chain Sawd over Red Sword.
Nicer effect, nicer look, nicer sound http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif
But id say srank is better than tj..

[/quote]
Maybe ill get psobb if it hits US/euro. And maybe ill choose chain over red if i can ever find a red sword. =p
-xero

Eclypse
Apr 14, 2004, 05:47 PM
I would say to equip the RED SWORD based on just straight damage reasons alone. Of the two though I've found more RED SWORDS with Hit% than I have any other sword. I have a CHAIN SAWD with no %'s and that damn thing misses all the time when I hard attack, but with my RED SWORD be it the one with the 30% or without, I can hit more frequently

Dragon_Ash
Apr 14, 2004, 05:51 PM
well another thing is that even though the S-Rank sword has better stats and can have a beter special than the red sword, the red sword can be found with hit %.. and i don't think S-Ranks can get hit at all http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif

Rainbowlemon
Apr 14, 2004, 05:52 PM
Gah, Chainsawd annoys me. At first, it was cool, but the sound when you hit really bugs me now! And, the Red Sword special is much more useful than Chainsawd for Humans - who needs HP steal with resta? Anyway, after every 3-hit combo you'll no doubt get hit and be having to heal anyway - I just feel that for the time it takes to regain health with a chainsawd, when not on a boss, there is no point, because you'll just get hit in a few seconds anyway.

However, if you're an android with a good enough ATA, and you really really don't like going back to p2 for mates, then sobeit. I still love the Red Sword more...seeing everyone 'frozen in time' like that is really funny, especially when you catch someone like a vulmer while he's doing his crazy praying-to-the-gods thing http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Eihwaz
Apr 14, 2004, 06:14 PM
Okay, in my humble opinion, the "best" sword depends on which character you're playing as.

HUmar: Probably Zanba. Berserk + Decent ATP/ATA + Resta = ownage. Other good ones would be Red Sword, S-Rank Sword, Flowen's 3084 (for the special)...

HUcast: ChainSawd, for Gush. Zanba would be nice, as would a Zalure/Gush S-Rank Sword. Of, if none of those, a Last Survivor with good percentages.

HUnewearl: Red Sword, tis what Cassandra uses. Flowen's 3084 (for the special), S-Rank Sword, etc.

HUcaseal: ChainSawd, for Gush. Last Survivor with good percentages, S-Rank with Gush/Zalure special, maybe Red Sword.

Other good swords -
Sealed J-Sword: Strong, and cool-looking. Kinda uber-rare, though...

Tsumikiri J-Sword: Very nice, but most are hax0red, and I don't much care for the way they look. Great special, though.

Crazy Tune: XD Just for looks, kiddies.

Off topic, anyone? Well, kinda.

*throws topic back onto railing*

Red Sword, IMO, is definetly one of the better swords in the game. Strong, fairly accurate, and good special. No EVP loss, either. I think it looks kinda cool. A bit plain, yes...

It might look funny on a tiny character. Maybe a chibi-HUnewearl? Awwww. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

If you want pics, either poke around PSOW, or you could try http://www.psoquest.com ... Google Image search, maybe. If you dare, bwahahaha. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

Eclypse
Apr 14, 2004, 06:29 PM
I think too many people put a huge emphasis on the S-Rank weapons, when they aren't all that great. For example there are SOOOOOOOO many people on the Xbox version right now that are using the same HELLFIRE TWIN and it doesn't even do more damage than my METEOR CUDGEL. I think the only S-Rank weapons that are worth anything are the S-Rank Mechs, Swords, and I forsome reason like the S-Rank Daggers.

Hrith
Apr 14, 2004, 07:00 PM
1) Jellen is better than Zalure for an S-Rank Sword special for androids hunters, especially for soloing, Zalure is a LOT better on a gun or slicer.

2) S-Rank sword totally owns, of course Meteor Cudgle is more powerful x_X it only hits one target though, you cannot compare swords and twin sabers. And this is a legit discussion : S-Rank sword is the 2nd best sword stats wise and is easy to get, 100% Red Swords are irrelevant.

lain2k3
Apr 14, 2004, 07:09 PM
On 2004-04-14 17:00, Kef wrote:
1) Jellen is better than Zalure for an S-Rank Sword special for androids hunters, especially for soloing, Zalure is a LOT better on a gun or slicer.


Srank sword does indeed totally pwn red sword. You get to choose the special, you only ose 1 ata, and damage is almost always higher, because of Red swords uber-variable atp. The paralysis on Red sword is good in caves and ruins, but Jellen or zalure still pown that if you are online.

and my Srank Jellen slicer pwns ruins...

Eclypse
Apr 14, 2004, 07:24 PM
On 2004-04-14 17:00, Kef wrote:
2) S-Rank sword totally owns, of course Meteor Cudgle is more powerful x_X it only hits one target though, you cannot compare swords and twin sabers. And this is a legit discussion: S-Rank sword is the 2nd best sword stats wise and is easy to get, 100% Red Swords are irrelevant.


I'm not comparing the METEOR CUDGEL to the S-Rank Sword, I was comparing it to the S-Rank Twin. I know that's off topic for a brief moment but oh well. As far as legit discussion is concerned no one is talking about hacks, I simply made a comment about a particular weapon as an example. Finally S-Rank Sword is only easy to get if you want to play challenge mode and I don't know many people that like challenge mode enough to endure trying to get under 7 hours.

Hrith
Apr 14, 2004, 07:30 PM
well because most players would rather use dupes/hacks with improved % on them.
Ep1 Challenge mode is easy, I beat it 26 times I NEVER got over 7 hours on my first times through.
And S-rank Sword + Berserk totally pwns Red Sword, even Tsumikiri, actually.

Cheep
Apr 14, 2004, 07:51 PM
On 2004-04-14 14:44, Xero_Silvera wrote:


On 2004-04-14 13:58, Kef wrote:
2nd best sword ???!!!!!!!!!111oneoneone!!
Here is how I see things :
1) Tsumikiri J-Sword (never tried, but I bet it just is)
2) S-Rank Sword
3) Chain Sawd
4) Zanba
5) Flowen's Sword AUW 3084
6) Red Sword
7) Sealed J-Sword

2nd best, huh ?


I like it better when your are helpful, not opinionative. Like ketchup said, my opions and yours are different. Red sword is #2 IMO.
Tsumikiri J-Sword = I cant obtain this until MUCH later.
S-Rank Sword = I am offline only. This is a no-go.
Chain Sawd = While having greater Ata then the red sword, I prefer god/arm and red sword over god/arm chain sawd. Red Sword has more ATP.
Zanba = out of the question. Hard to obtain, impossible for hucaseal to use.
Flowens Sword AUW 3084 = I'm a skyly. Can't obtain the flowens sword 3084 with any of my chars (no yellowboze) and Red Sword has greater atp, both max grinded i dunno.
Sealed J-Sword = This would probly be after red sword also, but before it until i got the TJS.

Now you see how it is when people post against your opinions?
-xero

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Xero_Silvera on 2004-04-14 14:46 ]</font>

They were ranking them statisticly... http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif

Eclypse
Apr 14, 2004, 11:17 PM
On 2004-04-14 17:30, Kef wrote:
well because most players would rather use dupes/hacks with improved % on them.
Ep1 Challenge mode is easy, I beat it 26 times I NEVER got over 7 hours on my first times through.
And S-rank Sword + Berserk totally pwns Red Sword, even Tsumikiri, actually.


I would play challenge mode, but for some reason I just can't get into it. Me and my friend were talking about getting into it, but just haven't yet. I've only used the S-Rank Sword once but that was before they added the WTQ to the box. I can't stand the TSUMIKIRI J-SWORD, I wanna puke everytime I see someone with that damn sword.