Pouilly slime question

[TiRune]

this enemy is supposed to drop something 100% of the time, and with my ID on ult, 50% chance on a morning glory. but I found one and he didnt drop a single thing. I've got the feeling that it's because I killed it with a fire mine on my android. will a slime in general only drop an item if you kill it when it's in his standard form? thnx! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[Evil_Althena8]

um...its called luck. I killed 5 mil lillies and their drop rate is 50% for a demo comet...and nothin. Some people have even worse luck...

[iamfanboy]

Took me seven Lilies to get my SECURE FEET...

...that I can't equip yet.

And I have YET to see a fraggin' Poully slime, despite the fact that I levelbuild in Addicting Food all the time. I once spent two hours piping for one of those red slimes, and never saw a one...

I just gave up. Whatever. I don't need a Cadaceus anyway, and if I do I'll just go to V.Hard Ruins.

[Evil_Althena8]

Wow...i got my caduceus on my first red slime(which appeared in less than 15 minutes). This was on the same quest before I piped for a demo comet. Now, I have horrible luck with lillies.



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[TiRune]

I found a caduceus in either v.hard or hard with my other char, I was pretty lucky http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif. I had 2 kill 8 hildetors for my frozen shooter before getting it (took me 11 frikin hours). pofoully slimes hardly every drop anything for me too, and I still have this nagging feeling if its because of my way of killing it. next poully I'll c I'm just gonna kill that one the regular way http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif.

nyways, gl getting ur rares all! (after morning star, I need the luck for yas 3k and spread needle ><... thats gonna be loads of runs through mines/ruins, lol)

[Evil_Althena8]

oh and by the way...finding a caduceus from a So Dimenian will probably take a lot longer than one from a red slime. 1/366 chance. But then again...it's not THAT bad considering other rates. Just keep piping if it's not too boring for you.

[iamfanboy]

piping in Ep. 1 is plenty boring. Of course, Yellowboze has little worth piping FOR in Ep. 1, aside from the Frozen Shooter (which I'm going to get one of these days! But I like my Justy just fine, thank you, Hell is a useful ability against Indi Belras and the like)

Ep 2 is all right, because you can set your shortcuts up where all you have to do is look up once every twenty seconds and only press one button until the enemy shows up. In 1, you have to walk back INTO the telepipe, which throws my one-handed controlling off a bit...

and by the way, that 7 lily count includes the one where I screwed up and died before seeing what the barstard had. I only actually killed six before nabbing the 50& chance rare.

And I have NEVER EVER EVER seen a Pouilly slime. I've tried varying everything - beat time, techs used to split, once I even had a ???? Gungnir that I was doing the "Special Special Heavy" combo and splitting 'em that way - but NOTHING works.

I'm starting to think that it's all a massive conspiracy to drive me insane, and there is no such thing as a red Slime. You're all lying to me! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

[Evil_Althena8]

were you doing the right quest and splitting them fully?

[iamfanboy]

Addicting food - the room with 2 slimes

I usually use RaBarta, because my RAmarl's pathetic level twelve doesn't even dink the slime's skin. I make sure to keep them continuously suppressed (ie, the moment they pop up I rabarta them so they don't have a chance to kill each other), and when I was hard-core piping them I had Ryuker set to a shortcut so the moment I saw that the 8th slime wasn't a bleedin' red one I could pipe back before they could injure each other.

Lather, rinse, repeat, for two hours. TWO HOURS. No experience gained, no other rares found, no red slime. At all.

And that was just when I was piping the b@stards. I always, ALWAYS split the slimes before wasting them when I'm just running through the level; quadrupling the experience at little risk to myself is a good deal any day of the week. On three section IDs, using the Addicting food quest as a level builder for at least 30-40 hours (and probably a lot more), and not seeing a single red slime? At all?

Any wonder I gave up? http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_mad.gif

[TiRune]

I got one after 2 hours, but you just need patience. It took me 11 hours to get my frozen shooter, I WILL get that morning glory from the slime :[

btw, I found my caduceus from a So Diminian on accident, I wasn't hunting for it http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

the strange thing is, the pouilly I found didn't drop ANYTHING, not even meseta. but the slime should have a 100% chance of dropping SOMETHING. that's why I think my way of killing slimes isn't good...

according to Housaka:

something drop rate:
Pouilly Slime 100% 100% 100% 100%


Greennill Morning Glory (2) ** 1/2

evilness....

[matvey]

Isn't there some weird splitting issue with regards to the slimes? If you split slime A so that now you have slimes A and B...and then A hits and kills B...and you pipe and come back...and later kill B...then it won't drop anything because it dropped in an earlier iteration? (Or failed to drop because its earlier iteration was Blue.)

Or something like that.... One of the other threads went into this, but not with much detail.

[TiRune]

that's evil, so if one of my blue splitted slimes get pwned. and he changes into a red one after next pipe, he wont drop anything? that's stupid, now I wasted hours of my valuable time http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[PaleKid15]

If you kill any of the blue ones first, the red slime will not drop anything (unless the one you killed was a clone of a different original slime). I'm pretty sure trap deaths negate their drop as well.

[Ketchup345]

On 2004-04-16 10:18, PaleKid15 wrote:
If you kill any of the blue ones first, the red slime will not drop anything (unless the one you killed was a clone of a different original slime). I'm pretty sure trap deaths negate their drop as well.


This only counts if the Pofuilly Slime that was killed dropped something.

I split a Pofuilly Slime twice, saw one was a Pouilly, accidentally killed the origional Pofuilly, killed the Pouilly, and got the Pouilly's drop (which was it's rare, my Cure/Paralysis http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif).

[TiRune]

meh, I got the funny feeling I'm better off just piping at the two slimes up and down instead of splitting them http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif.

anyon know the chance of a slime being a red slime?

[VioletSkye]

On 2004-04-16 22:39, TiRune wrote:
meh, I got the funny feeling I'm better off just piping at the two slimes up and down instead of splitting them http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif.

anyon know the chance of a slime being a red slime?


1/512

[Zelendria_Ru]

/wah

I am still confused...let's say I've split the 2 slimes in the before mentioned Addicting Food Quest...there is 8 before I pipe, then I pipe again, resetting them to 2, but on this time 1 turns into a pouilly...I then kill all the pofuilly with RAfoie, then proceed to slay to pouilly with zonde...does this shut off it's drops???

I don't think so because this is the exact way I obtained my Devil/Battle...Vhard Redria Pouilly...

Summary...

1) Don't kill or let any of the pofuillys get killed
2) This would make the pouilly clone of THAT previously dead (as in a TP 3 rounds ago) pofuilly "parent" NO DROP...

Is this right?

I hate posting something so "questionably" obvious but insanely precise "what if"

[VioletSkye]

Simply put, if you split slimes then you need to make a concerted effort not to let any of the Pofuilly Slimes die before you kill your Pouilly Slime. If a Pofuilly slime does die, but didn't drop anything, then you can either kill the Pouilly and still get the Pouilly drop or you can continue piping until a Pouilly slime appears.

[TiRune]

them pofuilly slimes always kill each other when I try, I use a ??? slicer... as I said, I hink I'm better of just piping up and down without splitting. 1/512 so in general, see 512 slimes. say every pipe takes 30 seconds. so that's 4 slimes in a minute = 240 in an hour. so that takes me 2,1 hours times 2 because of 50% drop > 4 hours and 10 minutes in general.... ouch....

thnx violet btw http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

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[Rainbowlemon]

On 2004-04-16 23:11, VioletSkye wrote:
Simply put, if you split slimes then you need to make a concerted effort not to let any of the Pofuilly Slimes die before you kill your Pouilly Slime. If a Pofuilly slime does die, but didn't drop anything, then you can either kill the Pouilly and still get the Pouilly drop or you can continue piping until a Pouilly slime appears.



Is this proved? I am unsure myself, seeing as every time I found a pouilly I killed it first, but is that not a bit harsh? Some poor unexpecting player finds some really cool special red one, and gets all excited, but keeps using his sword and ends up killing his pouilly last, meaning it drops nothing? That's uber mean...perhaps the person that formed this theory didn't kill enough slimes? Maybe he/she was unlucky enough for the drop rate to go against them twice or even thrice in a row?

Gah...I don't know, I just find that so hard to believe. I'll end up trying to prove people wrong sooner or later and gain nothing but the embarassment or piping all day to no avail http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[VioletSkye]

On 2004-04-17 03:13, Antimony wrote:


On 2004-04-16 23:11, VioletSkye wrote:
Simply put, if you split slimes then you need to make a concerted effort not to let any of the Pofuilly Slimes die before you kill your Pouilly Slime. If a Pofuilly slime does die, but didn't drop anything, then you can either kill the Pouilly and still get the Pouilly drop or you can continue piping until a Pouilly slime appears.



Is this proved? I am unsure myself, seeing as every time I found a pouilly I killed it first, but is that not a bit harsh? Some poor unexpecting player finds some really cool special red one, and gets all excited, but keeps using his sword and ends up killing his pouilly last, meaning it drops nothing? That's uber mean...perhaps the person that formed this theory didn't kill enough slimes? Maybe he/she was unlucky enough for the drop rate to go against them twice or even thrice in a row?

Gah...I don't know, I just find that so hard to believe. I'll end up trying to prove people wrong sooner or later and gain nothing but the embarassment or piping all day to no avail http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif


If you split a slime and a red one appears but the blue one dies first AND drops an item, then the red slime is no longer of any use because it will not drop anything. It has been proved already so trying to argue this one will be pointless. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[Bender202]

How is this proven, cause i know i have gotten 3 items in a room from slimes, when there were only 2 to begin with.

[VioletSkye]

On 2004-04-17 11:49, Bender202 wrote:
How is this proven, cause i know i have gotten 3 items in a room from slimes, when there were only 2 to begin with.


If you want to disprove it, then go for it. Try splitting slimes until you get a red one, then kill the blue and if it drops an item, kill the red one and see if it drops anything. Let me know how your testing goes lol http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[Bender202]

Sorry, I'm too lazy to test it myself, and after goin 0/23 on slimes I dont really have an interest in testing, but if someone else did......

[VioletSkye]

On 2004-04-17 11:59, Bender202 wrote:
Sorry, I'm too lazy to test it myself, and after goin 0/23 on slimes I dont really have an interest in testing, but if someone else did......


Well considering that people I trust like Vulpes Mundi have already tested it, and since other well respected members like Kef, Sounomi, Ketchup etc. believe this as well, thats good enough for me. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[Bender202]

Ahh, yes the almighty gods of psow.....http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

I like my mood

[PaleKid15]

That's kind of mean. (wow, that just seems wierd coming from me)

Red slime rip offs are irritating. DAMNIT!!! THAT COULD HAVE BEEN MY LAVIS!!!

[Brex546]

On 2004-04-16 22:45, VioletSkye wrote:


On 2004-04-16 22:39, TiRune wrote:
meh, I got the funny feeling I'm better off just piping at the two slimes up and down instead of splitting them http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif.

anyon know the chance of a slime being a red slime?


1/512



Dang, I guess I got alot of cave runs to do.

[VysetheLegend]

Here's my "bad luck"

Pinkal ULT Forest Pal Rappy

Actual odds of Agito 1975 drop = 1/21

My current standing = 0/95

=(

[Hooga]

pth all you whiners and your bad luck... geez (jk)

I'm having the best of luck today. Started playing hard - got through forest caves and mines. Dragon dropped a musashi (or however its spelled). Picked up a DB's Saber from a Canadine. Decided to start some piping on FiY cause I'd never done any piping at all before (I'm relatively new to the game) and I wanted to find out what an Al Rappy dropped for my Skyly. I'd heard there was a room with 8 rappys in FiY but when 6 rappys dropped in a circle round me I figured it was good enuf. One pipe later this blue thing dies and I get the Last Survivor.

Slimes are stupid. They're a pain getting to split properly and they're a pain avoiding splitting. I can never get slimes to work for me.

[Zelendria_Ru]

Yep, red slimes are a pain, but I have successfully piped and killed one first, using Zonde...man it's a pain...of course, it drops nothing...stupid things.

So I switch to SKYLY and go to 6 lily room, 20 mintutes later there's a Mil...kill it and get a Sange...so I guess I can't whine too much...but boy would I like that Lavis...I still think I will change it into a double cannon, but because everyone has been saying so much about untekked ones, I will (when I get the darn thing) try it out...though I admit I hate sabers to death...

Give me a Large Sword or D.Saber any day!