Yas 9000M

[VysetheLegend]

Okay so after 200 or so runs thorugh ULT Mop-up # 3 I got my Yas 9000M http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

I was wondering: (since my new Ranger can't equip them)

-Are they worth adding percents to?

-Are they worth keeping, I mean are they a really good weapon, for anyone who uses/ has used them?

-Any comments on what I should do/ keep in mind when using/upgrading them?

Thank you.

[Eihwaz]

On 2004-04-25 16:09, VysetheLegend wrote:
Okay so after 200 or so runs thorugh ULT Mop-up # 3 I got my Yas 9000M http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

I was wondering: (since my new Ranger can't equip them)

-Are they worth adding percents to?

1 - Yes, they're pretty much the best Mechgun in the game. Add lots of percents.



-Are they worth keeping, I mean are they a really good weapon, for anyone who uses/ has used them?

2 - Yes, they ROCK. Rifle-range, 100 ATP and I think 37 ATA, cool look/sound...



-Any comments on what I should do/ keep in mind when using/upgrading them?

3 - I'd reccomend trying to hunt one with Hit%, and then beef up the percents on that one.



Thank you.

You're certainly welcome. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Eihwaz on 2004-04-25 16:30 ]</font>

[VysetheLegend]

Thanks for the answers. I might hunt for hit% one because mine has straight zeros http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

Then again it took me a good week or so to find these http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[Hrith]

come on http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif check the guides

1st percents only affect the weapon's ATP, so it's kinda useless on weapons with less that 500 ATP.

2nd it adds 60-100 ATP, so the average is obviously 80 ATP which is not bad for mechguns, but 3 mechs own it on that.

3rd it adds 27 ATA, which is very good for mechs.

4th it has rifle range which is its major strong point.

5th it's easier to find in Temple.

[VysetheLegend]

I did check the guides, but they don't give you opinions on whether to add percents, etc. I know it's stats from the comparison chart. So are you saying it's not worth adding percents because it has low ATP? That doesn't make sense to me....

[doubletake123]

On 2004-04-25 17:00, VysetheLegend wrote:
I did check the guides, but they don't give you opinions on whether to add percents, etc. I know it's stats from the comparison chart. So are you saying it's not worth adding percents because it has low ATP? That doesn't make sense to me....

no its worth it just put percents on it.



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[Eihwaz]

On 2004-04-25 17:00, VysetheLegend wrote:
I did check the guides, but they don't give you opinions on whether to add percents, etc. I know it's stats from the comparison chart. So are you saying it's not worth adding percents because it has low ATP? That doesn't make sense to me....


Well, it's kinda like this:

Say with Weapon X you do 100 damage to a Booma. You take this weapon, and use PDs to add 10% Native to it. You will now do 110 damage to Boomas. Now, let's say with Weapon Y, you do 300 Damage to a Booma. You use PDs to add 30% Native to the already existing 10%, giving you 40% Native. Against Boomas, you'll do 420 damage. Basically, all that means that it's more useful to add percents to weapons that do more damage.

Mine has zero percents as well, but it still owns. On Mechs, Hit is more important than the other percents. Of course, it's still better to find weapons with good percents...

[VysetheLegend]

Okay, that makes sense now. Thanks for clearing that up http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif



<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: VysetheLegend on 2004-04-25 17:33 ]</font>

[Mattoko]

I'm glad I found mine, I got my Yaz' with 10/20/0/10 then PD them so I could up the percents. GOOD CHOICE doing so.

[Hrith]

On 2004-04-25 18:05, Mattoko wrote:
I'm glad I found mine, I got my Yaz' with 10/20/0/10 then PD them so I could up the percents. GOOD CHOICE doing so.
1) you should learn how to properly tek a weapon.
2) using duped PDs and PSs to boost weapons is cheap, and it's cheating, but that's your problem.
3) 100% native to a Yasminkov 9000M means it will have twice as much ATP, right ? 160 ATP woah, you will deal 370 instead if 350 to native monsters, congrats.

[Mattoko]

where in that sentence did I say I used duped photon drops? I didn't max the percents I only increased them a little maybe by 5 each.

And what are you talking about, properly tek a weapon?



<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Mattoko on 2004-04-25 18:18 ]</font>

[Hrith]

when you find an untekked weapon you can trick the tekker into adding 10% to it, you obviously did not do that, because your Yas9k had 10% to some areas, and the minimum on a tekked weapon is 15%.

and if maxing % on Yas 9k is useless, adding 5% is ludicrous, no offense, but it's like 1 damage more per hit http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Kef on 2004-04-25 18:32 ]</font>

[Mattoko]

fine do you want to check the percentages right now?
I will, why make such a fuss about a weopon and accuse me of something I didn't do.

ok the percents are 20/0/20/25 ok. don't freak out.



<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Mattoko on 2004-04-25 18:37 ]</font>

[iamfanboy]

Er, Kef, what are you smoking?

I've got a METEOR SMASH I just picked up that has only 5% Dark after I tekked it, because I simply didn't care to tek it up. Hell, I have a 10/0/10/0/30 Gatling I'm saving just because it's a mechgun with hit.

15% is NOT a minimum, and I'm seriously wondering why you would even think so.

And I've seen the tekker add 5% to one of my tekking attempts before; he doesn't always add 10%.


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[VioletSkye]

On 2004-04-25 18:40, iamfanboy wrote:
Er, Kef, what are you smoking?

I've got a METEOR SMASH I just picked up that has only 5% Dark after I tekked it, because I simply didn't care to tek it up. Hell, I have a 10/0/10/0/30 Gatling I'm saving just because it's a mechgun with hit.

15% is NOT a minimum, and I'm seriously wondering why you would even think so.

And I've seen the tekker add 5% to one of my tekking attempts before; he doesn't always add 10%.


<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: iamfanboy on 2004-04-25 18:41 ]</font>

Unless an item has hidden %'s, it will have at least 5% in an area that the tekker can raise. Since the tekker can raise a base % by 10 points, Kef added 5+10 and got 15. make sense? He wasn't saying that 15 is the minimum you can end up with, but its the minimum max you can get lol. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[iamfanboy]

Eye c.

Sorry about that, Kef. I'm a bit teed because I just got my new Redria FOmar all the way through the hard ruins, took on Falz at level 30, was kicking his arse, and then, he nailed me with Grants for the first time.

It was at that point I realized I'd neglected to bring along any light resistance, and he killed me with one hit.

And all of my Resist/Holy units are on other characters. Dammit, no I've gotta restart and run through the ruins again! Sunova...

[Mattoko]

After all of this I want you to realize, I love my Yazminikovs and I think you should keep them. I like mine, you'll like yours. I'd add %'s if I were you. Oh and whoever told you to try finding the 9000's in the temple was easier was right, that's where I got mine. Oh and Kef get off my back. I was only explaining that I added percents to mine. Where ever you got the idea to accuse me of using duped Photon Drops you need to cool off and stop insulting people.

[Hrith]

I just bring good advice, adding % on a weapon with such low ATP as mechs is simply useless, it's easier to find another one.

Especially since PDs can be used for much better things like adding a special to an S-Rank or purchasing a Blue-Black Stone.

If I need to be more convincing I will compare a 100% Yas9k ot a 0% one if you want, and show the results.

Like I said, boosting % on weapons with under 500 ATP is a waste.

And no need to become paranoid, lol, what I say does not apply strictly to you.

[Dana]

On 2004-04-25 18:43, VioletSkye wrote:
Unless an item has hidden %'s, it will have at least 5% in an area that the tekker can raise. Since the tekker can raise a base % by 10 points, Kef added 5+10 and got 15. make sense? He wasn't saying that 15 is the minimum you can end up with, but its the minimum max you can get lol. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif


i have had a weapon add 20% before and 15% and even just 5% i don't see how you can say it raises by 10%(just)

[Ketchup345]

On 2004-04-26 00:14, Dana_ranger wrote:


On 2004-04-25 18:43, VioletSkye wrote:
Unless an item has hidden %'s, it will have at least 5% in an area that the tekker can raise. Since the tekker can raise a base % by 10 points, Kef added 5+10 and got 15. make sense? He wasn't saying that 15 is the minimum you can end up with, but its the minimum max you can get lol. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

i have had a weapon add 20% before and 15% and even just 5% i don't see how you can say it raises by 10%(just)


A tekker cannot add (or subtract) more than 10% of the origional value. Any tekked item has a possibilty of -10, -5, 0, +5, +10.

You must have looked at the weapon wrong, or didn't look at it when it was untekked.

[SJ]

Yeah Kef and Ketchup are right.
Only need hit % on mechs.
Dont bother increasing.
If you are gunna increase % wait till u have 99 pds.
Pipe 2 frozen shooter and use you're pds to get a photon booster.
Then you'll be unstoppable.
lol
Normaly I'd be like you lot but don't question kef or ketchups judgement unless ur 100% their wrong or ul probably make a fool of urself http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif
Meh Im off...*runs away*

[PatserGOUKI]

keep it untekked (if it still is) and trade it with me! Im only interested if its untekked

PatserGOUKI

[lain2k3]

Kef, the Min. Max value that you can Tek up to is 10%. I have a red saber that came with no hit untekked, but still showed the zero. It couldve been tekked up to 10 hit from 0.

[Hrith]

On 2004-04-26 15:49, lain2k3 wrote:
Kef, the Min. Max value that you can Tek up to is 10%. I have a red saber that came with no hit untekked, but still showed the zero. It couldve been tekked up to 10 hit from 0.


my info comes from the game data, try again, like Ketchup said, you must not have looked properly at the untekked weapon.

The minimum on tekked weapons is 15%, end of debate.

[lain2k3]

Maybe I did, but I'm pretty sure.

Oh well, doesnt matter either way.

[VysetheLegend]

I don't see why adding percents to mechs isn't favored, I mean they hit 9 times, so even 50 damage per hit adds up. I have a FS and maybe plan on getting a SQ. I have plenty of PDs since they kinda have just stacked up on all 12 of my characters. Maybe I misssing something? http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

[Ketchup345]

On 2004-04-26 18:20, VysetheLegend wrote:
I don't see why adding percents to mechs isn't favored, I mean they hit 9 times, so even 50 damage per hit adds up. I have a FS and maybe plan on getting a SQ. I have plenty of PDs since they kinda have just stacked up on all 12 of my characters. Maybe I misssing something? http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif


Its not 50 damage. Its 50 ATP. That 50 extra ATP isn't too useful in anything past Very Hard Forest.

The % comes from just the ATP of the weapon, not the combined ATP. So adding %s isn't much use unless the item is really strong on its own (unless you boost it up to 100%, but those PDs are better off getting an S-Rank's special). Anything above 200 ATP could be useful to upgrade the %s, but isn't too necessary.

[PaleKid15]

Lain2k3- You probably had a weapon w/ hit equipped, and that's why it said 0% hit.

[iamfanboy]

nope, palekid; I've got a set of CROSS SCAR that distinctly show Hit - 0%, no matter what weapon I have equipped. I know, I rechecked it because it struck me as very odd.

I didn't much care to tek it up, though, because 1) It's just another freakin' CROSS SCAR, and 2) I already have three CROSS SCARs with 30% hit or greater.

Weapons CAN have 0% hit that you can tek up, but it's very weird and very rare. I'm assuming that what happens is the weapon itself has, say, 5% Hit before being tekked, and the tekker drops it to 0% while it's being tekked.

[Hrith]

On 2004-04-27 13:55, iamfanboy wrote:
nope, palekid; I've got a set of CROSS SCAR that distinctly show Hit - 0%, no matter what weapon I have equipped. I know, I rechecked it because it struck me as very odd.

I didn't much care to tek it up, though, because 1) It's just another freakin' CROSS SCAR, and 2) I already have three CROSS SCARs with 30% hit or greater.

Weapons CAN have 0% hit that you can tek up, but it's very weird and very rare. I'm assuming that what happens is the weapon itself has, say, 5% Hit before being tekked, and the tekker drops it to 0% while it's being tekked.


That's not what we are discussing, we are talking of people who always get the +10% bonus from tekker.

[Klaus88]

Its just a game man...

Just go online and get a GULD MILLA+9 with 100/100/100/100/100.

Thats solves your problems in seconds...

[Ketchup345]

On 2004-04-28 09:18, Klaus88 wrote:
Its just a game man...

Just go online and get a GULD MILLA+9 with 100/100/100/100/100.

Thats solves your problems in seconds...


Too bad most people here frown on cheating, and you can only have %s in a max of 3 areas (including hit%).

[Hrith]

On 2004-04-28 09:18, Klaus88 wrote:
Its just a game man...

Just go online and get a GULD MILLA+9 with 100/100/100/100/100.

Thats solves your problems in seconds...
no need to flame you, your lack of insight is made obvious by your sig

[Nai_Calus]

I dunno, it's entirely too big, but it did make me chuckle.

He's still an idiot n00b, though. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

[VysetheLegend]

Yeah, that's what I'll do. I'll go online and kill everything in one combo and get full enjoyment out of the game. </end sarcasm>

Thanks for everyboady, excpet for that one guy, giving input. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[Klaus88]

Me an n00b? err...no

I'm just not too bothered, i use legit weapons, but if i needed alittle help ill just get my guld millas...

ill tell you something 90% of pso players use un-legit weps. Some of them are pros aswell.

[Ketchup345]

On 2004-04-29 15:01, Klaus88 wrote:
Me an n00b? err...no

I'm just not too bothered, i use legit weapons, but if i needed alittle help ill just get my guld millas...

ill tell you something 90% of pso players use un-legit weps. Some of them are pros aswell.


1) -
2) Then you don't use legit weapons
(99% of GMs are duped/hacked).
3) 90% may be unlegit, but over 50% here are legit, or are almost entirely legit with a few characters or items they use for hacks/cheats and experimenting. There are more legits here than non-legits (of what I've seen in my year here), and many highly disapprove of what some unlegits do (chech cheaters once in a while).