Finaly (*dies happy*)

[Quo]

It took me since August of last year. It took me 42 Red slimes. It took me from level 1-128 and level 1-113 (two different characters, one Purplenum one Redria). At long last I have found a Lavis cannon.

[Mixfortune]

If I recall correctly, weren't you still searching for that during the Ended Theory? o_o

Congratulations! What sort of percents does it have?
I'm sure this has taken a lot of pressure and sleepless nights away. Now you have to get a Syncesta or two, depending on what you want o_o

[Jason]

When I got my Lavis Cannon a week ago I was shaking with happiness. It took me only 3 red slimes, something that I did not expect because I was feeling hopeless. Right now with my Oran character I'm piping for Hildetorrs to get a Syncesta or two.

[Quo]

If by "during the Ended Theory" you mean I was huntin the lavis during the J-sword unsealing fiasco, then, yes, yes I was.

Tekked to 30% native

I dont have an oran file in Ultimate so I'm kind of stuck there. A friend of mine does and is in dire straits for a good weapon. Maybe he'll trade for a demo comet or something.

[Zelgadis]

Everyone finds what they want when they rare enemy hunt. 150+ pinkal pals and still no Agito. Sure I should have find atleast 2 or 3 by now....but with the crazy luck I have for find other rares....and with a 2% drop rate....yeah.

[Quo]

On 2004-04-29 20:09, Zelgadis wrote:
Everyone finds what they want when they rare enemy hunt. 150+ pinkal pals and still no Agito. Sure I should have find atleast 2 or 3 by now....but with the crazy luck I have for find other rares....and with a 2% drop rate....yeah.



150!!!! wow. (*kicks measly 42 slimes*) you should have found around seven Agitos! By the way, the drop rate for pinkal pals is 1/21 closer to a 5% chance.

[Jason]

It's 1/22 actually. Not that it's much of a difference anyway.

[Nai_Calus]

Wow, that's some lousy luck. But you finally got it! ^-^

[Quo]

On 2004-04-29 20:16, Jason wrote:
It's 1/22 actually. Not that it's much of a difference anyway.



Sounomi says 1/22
Heyf00l says 1/21

Who knows?

[Hrith]

On 2004-04-29 20:31, Quo wrote:


On 2004-04-29 20:16, Jason wrote:
It's 1/22 actually. Not that it's much of a difference anyway.



Sounomi says 1/22
Heyf00l says 1/21

Who knows?


I do http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif
the actual rate is 1/21.3 since there cannot be 0.3 monster, it was rounded to 1/22 which is more accurate.

And congrats it tooke me 10 months to get mine, divided in:
194 Redria Addicting Food Runs and stiffed on 44 slimes
74 Purplenum Lost Heat Swords runs and no labis
122 Skyly Ruins runs and poof, 1 percentless lavis
and then, one week later, while leveling Terra to 200, on my 157th Viridia Ruins run, Gran Sorcerer drops one that tekked to 15/0/35/0/0 =/
Now I want Syncesta http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif

[Nai_Calus]

If it's 1/21.3, wouldn't 1/21 be more accurate? 0-4 you round down, 5-9 you round up, or at least that's what I was taught. *shrug*

[Hrith]

On 2004-04-29 21:45, Ian-KunX wrote:
If it's 1/21.3, wouldn't 1/21 be more accurate? 0-4 you round down, 5-9 you round up, or at least that's what I was taught. *shrug*
Think, dear Ian ! you have been Del Ian for too long !
Since there cannot be one third of a Pal Rappy, for instance, the fraction has to be rounded up, not down http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[Nai_Calus]

On 2004-04-29 21:55, Kef wrote:


On 2004-04-29 21:45, Ian-KunX wrote:
If it's 1/21.3, wouldn't 1/21 be more accurate? 0-4 you round down, 5-9 you round up, or at least that's what I was taught. *shrug*
Think, dear Ian ! you have been Del Ian for too long !
Since there cannot be one third of a Pal Rappy, for instance, the fraction has to be rounded up, not down :P



Mmm, probably. *eats 2/3 of a Pal Rappy* Now there's 1/3rd of one! :D

Rawr~. n.n

[Mixfortune]

I'm not trying to argue with this statement, Kef, just stating this before someone else takes it too far.

I can see how .3 can be rounded up, since that is a fairly decent chunk of 1%, enough to warrant it as "better think of it as 1/22". Naturally, if something was 1/21.0001, I wouldn't care to round it up. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Of course, I'm going along with the point that 1/21 or 1/22, it's not a very big difference, so long as it gives the general idea of the rarity of the drop.

But, I had to say it and get it out of the way before someone else said it and made it into a big argument http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[Rainbowlemon]

OK...1/21.333333333333333333333333 = 3/64.

So, for 3 findings off a 1/21.3 Pal, you would expect in theory to have to get 64 Pals before you find the three items.

Therefore, it depends which way you want to see it. If you decide to round down to 1/21, you would have to get 63 Pals to satisfy your probability for 3 finds, which is one Pal short of the actual value. If you decide to round up to 1/22, you would have to get 66 Pals to satisfy your probabilty for 3 findings, which is two more than the actual value.

Technically, rounding down rather than up is more accurate, as when looking at multiple findings it is closer to the actual value than if you round up.

Curse me and my A-Level stats http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

On topic: Congratulations! I know the feeling with slimes, I myself had to find 50 before I got my Lavis cannon, it's such an overwhelming feeling! After all that time and effort, it is finally yours! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif

Now for Syncestas, no? http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[goku4ever]

On 2004-04-30 00:34, Antimony wrote:
OK...1/21.333333333333333333333333 = 3/64.

So, for 3 findings off a 1/21.3 Pal, you would expect in theory to have to get 64 Pals before you find the three items.

Therefore, it depends which way you want to see it. If you decide to round down to 1/21, you would have to get 63 Pals to satisfy your probability for 3 finds, which is one Pal short of the actual value. If you decide to round up to 1/22, you would have to get 66 Pals to satisfy your probabilty for 3 findings, which is two more than the actual value.

Technically, rounding down rather than up is more accurate, as when looking at multiple findings it is closer to the actual value than if you round up.

Curse me and my A-Level stats http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

No offence but u needed A level stats to figure that out? And i think ppl round it so that in theory they will get it within that number of pal rappies where as if they rounded it down then there is a chance where they wouldnt.

[Cc08]

Congratulations! I'm just about to start my hunt for one.

Tekked to 30% native Hmmm, so you think it's better tekked. I still need to decide if I'm going to tekk mine or not (when I get it)

[Quo]

On 2004-04-30 14:48, Cc08 wrote:
Congratulations! I'm just about to start my hunt for one.

Tekked to 30% native Hmmm, so you think it's better tekked. I still need to decide if I'm going to tekk mine or not (when I get it)



I never saw a reason not to tekk items. Untekked weapons can be dupped and, I think hacked, just as well as tekked. Lavis cannons however don't drain life with the special or something like that, but I don't care. I never felt right having a ?special weapon in my inventory unless I knew it was crap. And syncestas can't be used on an untekked lavis cannon.

[Hrith]

On 2004-04-30 15:44, Quo wrote:
Lavis cannons however don't drain life with the special or something like that
and are also a lot more powerful and accurate (the special attack)


And syncestas can't be used on an untekked lavis cannon.
They can

[Dragon_Ash]

On 2004-04-30 14:48, Cc08 wrote:
Congratulations! I'm just about to start my hunt for one.

Tekked to 30% native Hmmm, so you think it's better tekked. I still need to decide if I'm going to tekk mine or not (when I get it)



oh, and before you get one, remember that the PAL/european version of PSO 1&2 has had the untekked lavis glitch fixed... so that means no uber lavis cannon for PAL users... couldn't help notice that you were from the UK http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif

[Brex546]

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Mmm, probably. *eats 2/3 of a Pal Rappy* Now there's 1/3rd of one! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

Rawr~. n.n

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*eats the other 11% of the 1/3 rappy* now its 22% of a rappy! there happy? lol http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif



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[Cc08]

oh, and before you get one, remember that the PAL/european version of PSO 1&2 has had the untekked lavis glitch fixed... so that means no uber lavis cannon for PAL users... couldn't help notice that you were from the UKLol, where did you get that idea? Maybe I filled something out wrong or something, but I'm in the US.

[PsychoMantis]

On 2004-04-29 20:13, Quo wrote:
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On 2004-04-29 20:09, Zelgadis wrote:
Everyone finds what they want when they rare enemy hunt. 150+ pinkal pals and still no Agito. Sure I should have find atleast 2 or 3 by now....but with the crazy luck I have for find other rares....and with a 2% drop rate....yeah.



AHAHAAAAHAAAHAHA!!!!!! thats so funny 150+ pals and no agito, that must be quite a fun adventure ur havin!

no really, i feel sorry for u http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif ....... http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif jk

that must really suck!

i got my syncesta in 14 torrs which is average. (once again im sayin this everywhere) but 150+ pals.............

[SpyroDi]

That's an awful lot of rare enemies...I haven't the patience for that stuff!

I got my Lavis Cannon from my Oran character in a random levelling-up Mines run(Gasp! Sinow Red!),and got my first Syncesta from my first Hildetorr. Am I lucky?

I don't really hunt for rares I need.

Although I'd like to find a Twin Chakram sometime and a Kasami Bracer with stats higher than a Tripolic Shield http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

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