A little question for those who melee with FOs...

[MT7218]

Currently I have a level 140 Redria FOmarl that likes to melee... her current equipment are as follows...

Weapons:
Cadecus (0/0/25/0/0)
Plantian Huge Fan (35/20/25/0)
Double Saber (0/0/0/0/0)(Rarely used anymore...)
Holy Ray (25/0/15/0/0)
Armor:
Love Heart (4 slots)
Slots:
2 Elf/Arm++
God/Battle
Cure/Shock (For those annoying Hidelts and their Gizonde...)
Sheild: Divinity Barrier (Unless I get something with better EIC, I may be keeping this for a while)
Mag: Sato (25 DEF, 10 POW, 32 DEX, and 133 Mind)

The main thing I'm planning on changing is the mag she has (I'm gonna try piping that Irista when I get the sanity to pipe later on... >_>). There's WAY too much MIND on the Sato to melee, having to use Pow mats and those Elf/Arm++'s to be decent in melee. I would like to hear what some of you people would think would work better for her mag in terms of stats... It will be a Sato, like the one I have now, so try to put it in the limit so it could evolve into one ASAP... Also keep in mind I still want SOME MIND on the new mag, too.

[dude3282]

Hmm ... you could try 5/95/50/50, that would leave you some decent ATA and MST, while boosting your ATP a good bit. You might want a little bit more ATA than that, though, unless you're packing a few God/Arms. I dunno, I'm not claiming to be an expert here, just offering an idea.

[KveerRaven]

you can try my stats for all my mags: 20/100/50/30

Its been perfect for my HUmar and his bases MST is 562 and his current level is 112. I was able to get most of my level 15 techs by level 80. So, it may work for ya. Its worked for a friend of mine who also plays a Melee Force

[dude3282]

Defense on mags is usually unneccessary (I know I misspelled that somehow). It's more efficient to use materials, since they give you two points per mat instead of one per point of Def on the mag.

[BladeofDarkness]

Since you've already gotten help on the mag I'll try and give equipment advice...


Weapons:
Plantain Huge Fan, Holy Ray and Caduceus are all good but I'd definitely ditch that Double Saber and get some high hit vulcans (gush, charge or spirit) and an Inferno Bazooka.

Shields:
Since you're redria you should try hunting for a tripolic shield.

Slots:
Since you're redria you can get god/arms easy off of vhard pan arms (1/41 chance) so I'd get two of those to replace your elf arms. Keep the God/Battle and Cure/Shock those rock.

Armor:
Looks good to me.

Hope that helps.

[capin_bucky_ohair]

This is the type of post I have been looking for because I have a level 50 Redria FOmarl and the mind mag isn't cutting it anymore. I might make a Bhima (spelling?) since I have one Nidra and few Satos I know I will not like the crappy shifta and Deband on that thing but I will just simply use my FOmarl's shifta and deband over it or just make another Sato or Nidra.

[Quo]

On 2004-06-16 22:14, capin_bucky_ohair wrote:
This is the type of post I have been looking for because I have a level 50 Redria FOmarl and the mind mag isn't cutting it anymore. I might make a Bhima (spelling?) since I have one Nidra and few Satos I know I will not like the crappy shifta and Deband on that thing but I will just simply use my FOmarl's shifta and deband over it or just make another Sato or Nidra.



Go with the nidra. Invincibility > mag s/d

[TheStalker]

Try to find a Regen Gear Adv. This Shield allow to retrieve your HP and TP if ennemy attacks are blocked. Whith Deband and Jellen at hight level it's very funny and effective.
On my melee Fomar lvl 152, I use a mag 5/90/48/57. With 130 mind mat, 100 pow mat and 20 def mat. With also a God Power and a God Arm, his ATP and ATA are maxed and his mind is good.

[SLON]

Shields arent as important as Armor. I use Merges, and I dont worry about my EICs
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[slimer1231]

On 2004-06-17 05:22, SLON wrote:
Shields arent as important as Armor. I use Merges, and I dont worry about my EICs
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For a tech force that's true. But when you are a melee force, a shield is a difference between life and death.
I think the Regen Gear Adv. is a good chose for a melee force.

[PJ]

On 2004-06-16 20:04, MT7218 wrote:
Currently I have a level 140 Redria FOmarl that likes to melee... her current equipment are as follows...

Weapons:
Cadecus (0/0/25/0/0)
Plantian Huge Fan (35/20/25/0)
Double Saber (0/0/0/0/0)(Rarely used anymore...)
Holy Ray (25/0/15/0/0)
Armor:
Love Heart (4 slots)
Slots:
2 Elf/Arm++
God/Battle
Cure/Shock (For those annoying Hidelts and their Gizonde...)
Sheild: Divinity Barrier (Unless I get something with better EIC, I may be keeping this for a while)
Mag: Sato (25 DEF, 10 POW, 32 DEX, and 133 Mind)

The main thing I'm planning on changing is the mag she has (I'm gonna try piping that Irista when I get the sanity to pipe later on... >_>). There's WAY too much MIND on the Sato to melee, having to use Pow mats and those Elf/Arm++'s to be decent in melee. I would like to hear what some of you people would think would work better for her mag in terms of stats... It will be a Sato, like the one I have now, so try to put it in the limit so it could evolve into one ASAP... Also keep in mind I still want SOME MIND on the new mag, too.



Wow. I'd love to play online with your melee FOmarl, to see how my FOmar compares o_O You know. It's fun XD

Let's see...

Caduceus is more of a casting weapon. Probably should keep it until you make the new mag for melee.

Double Saber isn't a bad choice, but if you are online, you should try to complete (Or get someone else to complete) challenge mode for an SRank Twin.

God/Battle is always good. And I'd personally go with slot ATA (Elf/Arms) over Dex on the mag anyways. The Cure Shock is really only useful in Mountain area, so I'd just deposit it until you actually venture into the mountains.

Alright, I guess I can't really help you with the shield, since I'm a Looks > Performance player, and my Best characters use the Rings for shields ^_^;;;

[BladeofDarkness]

It's true that the caduceus is a casting wep but I think all melee fos should still keep one cast wep for online play. *shrug* That's just the way I play though.

[capin_bucky_ohair]

On 2004-06-16 22:20, Quo wrote:


On 2004-06-16 22:14, capin_bucky_ohair wrote:
This is the type of post I have been looking for because I have a level 50 Redria FOmarl and the mind mag isn't cutting it anymore. I might make a Bhima (spelling?) since I have one Nidra and few Satos I know I will not like the crappy shifta and Deband on that thing but I will just simply use my FOmarl's shifta and deband over it or just make another Sato or Nidra.



Go with the nidra. Invincibility > mag s/d



true I have always love invincibility over mag shifta/deband. I don't have enough Nidras yet, I hope once my FOmarl reaches Ultimate mode the invincibilty would work like it suppose to. I.E. when my life goes down, bar full and when I enter a boss fight.

[Sitka]

My meelee fo still kind of sucks, so I'll have to level him up a bit more to really be of any help (Fomar - Yellowboze - looks good, meelees bad - lvl 94).

However, I play quite a bit with a couple of fos who meelee quite well for a living. One pretty much uses the Scorcerer's Arm, tags the room with Z&J and starts whipping up on baddies. If they get too close, he blasts with a couple of Rabarta shots or a little Gifoie to keep em busy, and goes on doing the whack-daddy all the live long day.

The other fo lives with his mechguns. He freezes stuff, tags it and then blows the room away with tat-a-tats.

They both are quite high level and really know how to play the game well. Both fos use SATOS for the frequent invincibility with a lean towards Power on the stats.

That's kind of what I plan on doing with my FO as well.

[Eihwaz]

On 2004-06-16 20:04, MT7218 wrote:
Currently I have a level 140 Redria FOmarl that likes to melee... her current equipment are as follows...

Weapons:
Cadecus (0/0/25/0/0)
Plantian Huge Fan (35/20/25/0)
Double Saber (0/0/0/0/0)(Rarely used anymore...)
Holy Ray (25/0/15/0/0)

Wee, helping melee FOrces is fun.

Er, anyway. I'd ditch the Caduceus and Double Saber. Caduceus is more of a tech-casting weapon, and Double Saber is kinda weak. Get a nice S-Rank Twin, or some kind of dagger than FOrces can use (like P-Arm's Blade or Twin Chakram). Otherwise, nice stuff.



Armor:
Love Heart (4 slots)
Slots:
2 Elf/Arm++
God/Battle
Cure/Shock (For those annoying Hidelts and their Gizonde...)
Sheild: Divinity Barrier (Unless I get something with better EIC, I may be keeping this for a while)
Mag: Sato (25 DEF, 10 POW, 32 DEX, and 133 Mind)

Your armor and units are great. Er, you might wanna get God/Arms. Secret Gear would be nice, or Attribute Wall. Tripolic Sheild is also possible, or even Safety Heart, if you're insane.



The main thing I'm planning on changing is the mag she has (I'm gonna try piping that Irista when I get the sanity to pipe later on... >_>). There's WAY too much MIND on the Sato to melee, having to use Pow mats and those Elf/Arm++'s to be decent in melee. I would like to hear what some of you people would think would work better for her mag in terms of stats... It will be a Sato, like the one I have now, so try to put it in the limit so it could evolve into one ASAP... Also keep in mind I still want SOME MIND on the new mag, too.

Okay, new stats on Mag...I'd say, for a high-level FOmarl such as yourself, stats of like 5/100/50/45. Nice Dex and Mind, nice power boost.

Good luck on Iritsia, you'll probably need it. XD

[lain2k3]

Actually, how many power materials did you take?

If you took over 90 power mats, you may not need more than 50 power on your mag to max her ATP.

[excecutor]

If your FOmarl is level 140, the real question is not what your mag should be, it is what are your stats. If we knew those we could give you better information on what to do.

At that level, your ata should be maxxed at 170. Your atp should be around 800+ as the max is 872. If you have those stats, then you need to change nothing. Any extra stats should go in mind or defense.

[MT7218]

Alright, I've managed to raise a new Sato. It's a gray one, but I'm glad I was just able to make one. It's current stats are 8/25/47/25 which gives me the stats of 668 base ATP, 162 base ATA (and I took off one of the Elf/Arm++s, as I don't need it's boost that much anymore), and base MST of 838. I'm gonna raise the Dex stat to 50 and concentrate on the other ones... how much should I put into that POW stat? I was planning on going to make it stop at 95, and make a 8/95/50/47 Sato, but that puts me dangerously close to my max ATP with 60 more levels to go... MST doesn't mean too much to me as a melee FO outside of just having some more TP to use S/D/J/Z/Resta/Anti, so it's a tough descision...

Edit: I forgot to mention that she can still use materials. How many more can she eat I don't know, but her luck is a piddly 26, so I'm holding off on material consumption untill I am satsfied with her luck stat or maxt on mats, obviously depending which comes first. What would be a good goal for her for her luck stat stopping point?



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[SLON]

Depends how patient you are! I got my Humar up to 86 luck but it took a long time.

[lain2k3]

I would go to at least 80 luck.

You can always make a new mag, maxing atp early is good, not bad http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_confused.gif

And you should always have maxed ata, always.

[PJ]

Personally, I think you need a minimum of 140 ATA, but that's stretching it a bit @_@

Now, my FOnewearl really has problems hitting this, until I get her the 2 God/Arms I promised her, she's stuck with a base of 111 ATA... in the Ruins! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

[lain2k3]

you could get away with 140 base ata, but only if all of your weapons had 60+ hit.

[PJ]

...Most of the weapons I use are enemy parts, so no hit %s. How weird http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

My FOmar has 15x ATA, so does my HUnewearl, my HUmar/RAcast have almsot 200 ATA. Both of those I tend to hit just about everything -_-;;; Base ATA doesn't need to be in the 170's + to hit even the Gibbons -_-;;;

Although, with my FOnewearl... http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

[lain2k3]

You and me arent playing the same game then, or your arent playing on ultimate.

I have never hit anything in ult. offline forest with less than 183 total ata, and not due to lack of effort.

I have never hit a gibbon offline with less than 235 ata, once again, not due to lack of attempts.

-_-;;

[Nai_Calus]

Bah, Lain, you've seen Zero hit things in CCA with that 0/0/0/0 Soul Banish. XP

Then again, Zero is a mutant freak of nature who walks into Ult online Ruins with an S-Rank Twin and 187 ATA and hits things with it. >_>;

[lain2k3]

I know Ive seen you do it.

But Ive never seen me do it.

[Genoa]

yea go with an invinsible mag. u obviously won't need the s/d cauz your a FO and all. And Soul Banish is the seksi on a FOmar/marl. I finally got to play online the other day at my friends house. I was so pimpin out with Soul Banish on my FOmar http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

[PJ]

On 2004-06-18 08:20, lain2k3 wrote:
I have never hit anything in ult. offline forest with less than 183 total ata, and not due to lack of effort.

Yeah, but I mean base ATA without the weapon equipped. I wouldn't dare try to hit anything with 140 ATA @_@;;;