To the stupid bastards who did this

[LollipopLolita]

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b4d836b3127cceb02a8f3fde650000001610

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b4d836b3127cceb02a8f205f4a0000001610

I hate you, I really do. How can you do this to a dog? You're not human. I hate you from the bottom of my heart. You're a monster.

-- End rant

Dog rescued from crack den/meth lab. Injuries from fight and chemical burns from spills from said meth lab.

Gaaah I'm getting burnt out and disgruntled.

[Link00seven]

That's sad.

I had animal abuse--people think that just because they're not human they cannot feel pain. That's bull shit.

Why does the human race have so many idiot lifeforms...?

[Aunt_Betty]

You know normaly I don't care for dogs but....Woah. I predict they they will die from liver cancer.

[navci]

http://www.barnowl.co.uk/images/upload/136_F.jpg

Some people have no right to handle lives, be that dog, cats, birds, owls pictured here kept in a cat cage, fishes, babies.

They JUST have no idea wtf they are doing.
A pair of large OWLS! In a fucking CAT CAGE!

[Aunt_Betty]

On 2004-06-17 12:37, navi wrote:
http://www.barnowl.co.uk/images/upload/136_F.jpg

Some people have no right to handle lives, be that dog, cats, birds, owls pictured here kept in a cat cage, fishes, babies.

They JUST have no idea wtf they are doing.
A pair of large OWLS! In a fucking CAT CAGE!

Is that BBQ sause?

[navci]

On 2004-06-17 12:39, Aunt_Betty wrote:
Is that BBQ sause?


Do you have nothing intelligent to say?

[derBauer]

My aunt took an abused Golden Retriever from the pound and the dog is finally normal. For the first year she had it, it would run fro people unless it was hungry and getting food.
Now it is a good dog though, and super friendly.
I hope the dog in the picture has found a good owner who will make it happy.

[DruidMettool]

Animal Cruelty is the one thing in this world that I won't stand for. If anything, Animals deserve more respect than humans do. I'm not an activist, but i have strong opinions on animal rights.

I love animals (no, I am -not- a furry) and I don't want to see humans harming them any more than we already have. I happen to have a German shepherd with 3 legs. We took the 4th off because it had cancer in it. But sometimes, people look at me like i've abused him. That's the farthest from the turth you can get. I am one to respect our animal friends.

I almost cried after seeing this topic. I know, boys aren't supposed to cry... but I'm very sensitive on the subject.

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[Deathscythealpha]

Erg, thats nasty. I hate animal cruelty, its just not needed. Now the people who did that should have it done back to them.

[Nai_Calus]

To the people who did these examples:

If I ever run across you, I am going to fucking kill you, you worthless piles of garbage.

[Sef]

God, how can someone do that to an animal. The dog probably never did a bad thing in it's life. Those bastards. I hope they get what they deserve. For using drugs and abusing an animal.

Makes me sick.

[HUnewearl_Meira]

On 2004-06-17 15:51, Sef wrote:
God, how can someone do that to an animal. The dog probably never did a bad thing in it's life. Those bastards. I hope they get what they deserve. For using drugs and abusing an animal.

Makes me sick.



It's called "Being a Crackhead," and in this case, it's the literal truth, it would seem.

[DarthFomar]

Poor dog.......

I was knew a cat that would get shaved like every 4 months. It's awful, just cuz the owner didn't like the shedding hair....... http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

But, this is just unconventional, Jesus......don't people have responsibilities anymore. Hell, I've known a few people that've {smoked/sniffed/etc illegal drugs} and they were more responsible than I, at the time.

People these days........... http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_nono.gif


Btw, don't fall on yourselves trying to avenge abused animals. Let professionals handle it, that's what they're for. Sure, you should stop someone you see abusing their animal, but don't harass/mangle them, because in the end.......the law doesn't permit you to. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_innocent.gif

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[Cinnamon]

Ugh! That really pisses me off! People that do that to animals need the same done back to them! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_nono.gif

[Armok]

Kids near me almost killed a cat with a BB Gun. 17 bullets where found in it. Tighht little bastards. Terrible

[ForceOfBrokenGlass]

The scary thing is some of these animal abusers do such things to children too. I could go on, there's undocumented horrors of animal mutilation going on this very minute behind closed doors. People are no more important than the animals of this world and yet some idiots like to think they are.

[burnningthings3]

My sis works at a Vet and they some times get this kinda of stuff and it's sick. I feel so bad fo that dog. Can't belive that happened!

[opaopajr]

the way a human shows compassion for other living things shows their capacity for compassion for human beings. if they behave like a monster to such things they'll behave like a monster to others.

ps: one of president george w. bush's favorite childhood pasttimes was blowing up frogs with firecrackers. another was as a teenager lining up his much younger siblings (from 2-10) and chasing and shooting them with a BB gun. take from that what you will.

[DarthFomar]

On 2004-06-17 23:22, opaopajr wrote:
the way a human shows compassion for other living things shows their capacity for compassion for human beings. if they behave like a monster to such things they'll behave like a monster to others.

True, true. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif


ps: one of president george w. bush's favorite childhood pasttimes was blowing up frogs with firecrackers. another was as a teenager lining up his much younger siblings (from 2-10) and chasing and shooting them with a BB gun. take from that what you will.


Part of growing up is learning......and kids tend to have a little of a mean streak *or a major one*. I'm sure over time he learned that blowing up animals was not the nicest thing in the world, and probably not the most exciting anymore. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

As for the whole BB gun thing, I highly doubt he was shooting 10 year olds with his bb gun in his teen years. He was probably too concerned with his other *hobbies*. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[HUnewearl_Meira]

On 2004-06-17 23:22, opaopajr wrote:
one of president george w. bush's favorite childhood pasttimes was blowing up frogs with firecrackers. another was as a teenager lining up his much younger siblings (from 2-10) and chasing and shooting them with a BB gun. take from that what you will.


Sounds like he was a healthy, human child, to me.

[Scejntjynahl]

On 2004-06-18 09:32, HUnewearl_Meira wrote:


On 2004-06-17 23:22, opaopajr wrote:
one of president george w. bush's favorite childhood pasttimes was blowing up frogs with firecrackers. another was as a teenager lining up his much younger siblings (from 2-10) and chasing and shooting them with a BB gun. take from that what you will.


Sounds like he was a healthy, human child, to me.



Heck your right Meira, for what I remember Adolf Hitler was the opposite, a poster child of goodness, and we know how that ended up.

[Uncle_bob]

On 2004-06-17 23:22, opaopajr wrote:
one of president george w. bush's favorite childhood pasttimes was blowing up frogs with firecrackers. another was as a teenager lining up his much younger siblings (from 2-10) and chasing and shooting them with a BB gun. take from that what you will.


Lots of kids do/did things like that, mind you. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_nono.gif Jesus, people need to stop using every littlet thing to turn a topic into a "BUSH SUX!!11" thread.

Anyhow, on topic, yea it's horrible that people treat their pets like that, but it's not like it'll stop. There will always be irresponsible jackasses in the world. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif

[Wyndham]

my little sister keeps tying up our cat so it wont hurt her when she holds it so tight it cant breathe.
and my own mother suggested it.

[Kuea]

that almost made me sick to my stomach
If I ever see someone treating an animal horribaly like that i woulf flip.

[ombres]

poor dog and owl... why all this useless Cruelty... I will never understand people, what is the fun and joy in that... like what the fun in killing other people, want to make war and all... only the human being is enough dumb to fight something that is only for power and money and the like...
Animals fight for food, survival or even for a mate! but that all...
Oh well thanks for this tread always great to make this out of my chest!!!

[Blitzkommando]

Animal cruelty is bad but... Not trying to trivialize it but, there are worse things, such as the lab itself... One hundred dogs never equals one human life...

[Sord]

On 2004-06-18 12:26, BLITZKOMMANDO wrote:
Animal cruelty is bad but... Not trying to trivialize it but, there are worse things, such as the lab itself... One hundred dogs never equals one human life...


others would beg to differ...

[Eihwaz]

Animal abuse is stupid, and unnessescary. The people who get caught abusing animals like that should get extra punishment (in addition to the drug charges http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif).

However, there are worse things in the world. For instance, I'm a bit more concerned about child abuse/molestation.

Animals should be treaty with dignity and respect.

[Daikarin]

A few years ago, my cousin once adopted a dog found in the street. Apparently the dog would pee everytime strangers got near him. While some of you might find this funny, the reason why he did that was because he received some serious spanking on a daily basis by her ex-owner.

Stop treating animals like animals.






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[navci]

If any of you have went to the SPCA to try to pick out a doggie or kitty to adopt?

It is a sad and depressed place. Not because they are in cage or the staff isn't nice or that. When you go up and read each of the animal's file and see what was their history, what happaned to them, why did they end up here; you'll know that there are way too many fucktards in this world.

I went with a friend once, there were dogs which was extremely violent because it got abused so much. You know no one will adopt such a dog, and you know what fate is waiting for it. There was also this very beautiful, graceful and gentle dog, you wonder why it is here. Then you see it yawn and shows a mouth with the most horrible set of teeth you can imagine. Because the previous owner has fed it nothing but canned dog food. Now it needs special care on the eating front.

Once I saw a Siberian Husky out walking with its owner in Hong Kong, under 35 degree celcius. You see the Husky with its poofy hair and you feel like you want to take off you own skin even though you're already quite hairless in comparison to the husky. A Doberman was on the new because it bit a child, I don't remember if the child was dead or not. But why did the dog bit the child? Guess what, they kept the dog in a small room with the child for quite an extend period of time.

People who don't have a clue on what they are doing should never be able to get their hands on anything that has life. It's that simple. Animals maybe a "lower life form" as some people would consider, but seriously, who are you to put such animals to suffering because of your own ignorance and incompetence to understand this animal also has a life and is sentient?

[LollipopLolita]

A few years ago, my cousin once adopted a dog found in the street. Apparently the dog would pee everytime strangers got near him. While some of you might find this funny, the reason why he did that was because he received some serious spanking on a daily basis by her ex-owner.

well actually, it might be submissive peeing.

i'm too tired to say anything else right now but


If any of you have went to the SPCA to try to pick out a doggie or kitty to adopt?

It is a sad and depressed place. Not because they are in cage or the staff isn't nice or that. When you go up and read each of the animal's file and see what was their history, what happaned to them, why did they end up here; you'll know that there are way too many fucktards in this world.

yes and we the people who get to receive and pick up the dogs and cats and foster before they go into shelters or adoption fairs or other rescue orgs get to see the full horror of what people do to animals. and it's endless, all the time, every time, there are animals needing homes, getting dumped in shelters, even in drop off boxes. and their spirit just breaks, hell it breaks our spirits too. as soon as one foster leaves my front door, there are dozens more looking to come in.



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[LostHero]

Like racism, animal abuse is usually something conditioned into a young mind.

I used to live across from a house that forced their ama or maid to live in a 5x4 utility shed adjacent to the garage. Only two houses over I habitually watched a man beat his rottweiler(sp?) as I came home from school each day. Perhaps not too surprisingly, the ama committed suicide as being unable to provide any financial support to her family in the philippines and the dog mauled my friend as he was playing in the street. The treatment, or rather abuse, these people gave both the ama and dog stem from a lifestyle or mindset given to them at an early age that justified such actions.

In my opinion, these mindsets are usually formed so early that they become part of the foundation of who a person is. For a person to look back to his core and deny a part of it, is to accept the fact that you are and have been living in wanton. Being easier to ignore such fault and forget vice, such mindsets are again passed on to the next generation.

I like to believe, that humans instinctually know right from wrong, and that bearing witness to such acts of cruelty strengthen one's personal morals.

After reading through this thread, I can't help but think of the saying: sin begets sin.

[Dingo]

Goddammit! how infuriating! I nearly cried looking at those pictures....some will just never learn and always feel superior....to hell with you!

[PhotonDrop]

I want to take a corkscrew and slam it deep into the faces of the dog and owls owners right now.

[shifter]

thats just a dam shame, it just shows you how desensitized(sp) some people are these days. i look at Animal Cops a lot (i dont know why) and there are a lot of horror stories on there. stuff like this just shows you how sick some people are.

[AUTO_]

When the dog was in a meth lab, I'm sure the owners or inhabitants had many other things on their mind then caring for the dog.

It's a sad scenario...that's about all I can say.

[Getintothegame]

Has it healed some since?

[Dangerous55]

Anyone who does that should be killed. Same thing with people who put out viruses and spyware.

[DarthFomar]

On 2004-06-22 20:47, Dangerous55 wrote:
Anyone who does that should be killed. Same thing with people who put out viruses and spyware.


The day someone is executed for killing an animal....is the day all hell breaks loose and the world ends.

Seriously, c'mon, animal abuse may be wrong *very wrong at times*......but killing someone over it, that's more barbaric than the animal abuse itself. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

[Dangerous55]

On 2004-06-22 21:21, DarthFomar wrote:

The day someone is executed for killing an animal....is the day all hell breaks loose and the world ends.

Seriously, c'mon, animal abuse may be wrong *very wrong at times*......but killing someone over it, that's more barbaric than the animal abuse itself. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif



I rather kill them then have them rot in jail for years. Besides, if it warrants the death penalty, it wouldnt happen as much.

[DarthFomar]

On 2004-06-22 21:31, Dangerous55 wrote:


On 2004-06-22 21:21, DarthFomar wrote:

The day someone is executed for killing an animal....is the day all hell breaks loose and the world ends.

Seriously, c'mon, animal abuse may be wrong *very wrong at times*......but killing someone over it, that's more barbaric than the animal abuse itself. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif



I rather kill them then have them rot in jail for years. Besides, if it warrants the death penalty, it wouldnt happen as much.


But, it would look............weird on the news.

"Man is executed for stabing a dog to death"

That's not something you hear everyday.

Plus it would be protested against and the protestors would have a field day with it, and they would win......so there.

It would be utterly barbaric. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif



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[Dangerous55]

On 2004-06-22 21:35, DarthFomar wrote:

But, it would look............weird on the news.

"Man is executed for stabing a dog to death"

That's not something you hear everyday.

Plus it would be protested against and the protestors would have a field day with it, and they would win......so there.

It would be utterly barbaric. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif



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Meh, whatever. Let's just kill everyone.

[Mr_Crow]

OH! i was wonderin where i lost sparky....

[Para]

That's just plain inhumane...
And we thought torturing people was bad... now this -_-

[DarthFomar]

On 2004-06-23 12:25, Dangerous55 wrote:

Meh, whatever. Let's just kill everyone.


When, where, and what type of weapons are we using........ http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

Oh wait......that's illegal too. Damnit.... http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif



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[AYY-BEE-CEE]

How can you complain about assault or mistreatment on another living creature and then say you're going to take a screwdriver to someone's head/kill/act of violence to the the person that mistreated the pet? If you say stuff like that, then I reckon you could have ended up as the same sort of person had you not been brought up to respect all creatures.

I think the animals should be given love and caring attention after what they've had to go through. Let the courts punish the animal bullies, not have us sink to their level.

[Scales_of_Air]

On 2004-06-24 08:39, AYY-BEE-CEE wrote:
How can you complain about assault or mistreatment on another living creature and then say you're going to take a screwdriver to someone's head/kill/act of violence to the the person that mistreated the pet? If you say stuff like that, then I reckon you could have ended up as the same sort of person had you not been brought up to respect all creatures.

I think the animals should be given love and caring attention after what they've had to go through. Let the courts punish the animal bullies, not have us sink to their level.

Yes! Finally! Someone to imply, "You don't fight evil with evil!"

Yes, abuse of any kind is horrible, but actually I personally don't know how to react to it with regard to certain punishment. Reacting to one violence with another violence is, in a certain light, simply continuing the tyrade. But without a punishment for those who abuse, what is learned?- That they can get away with it? With that, it is true then, punishment is needed - but how? As said above, harsh punishment only advocates methods of violence as good solutions, not only to abuse, but anything. If everything were answered with violence, what the heck would happen? No patience, no wisdom, nothing, just pain and more pain for those who cause pain, and as a result, there would be no reasoning in the minds of people. We need a mature society that understands empathy and respect for other people and animals alike, and then further, the world. If people don't commit these acts in the first place, cruel punishment isn't needed. People must be taught respect and consideration, taught to think before actions, not allowed to commit such abuse and asnwer to the same. This boils down to how one is raised and under what morals, which is really out of control and under the sole dictation of varying parents. So really, this is all as futile as Lyndon B. Johnson's "Great Sociey," isn't it? But I really think that using violence against violence advocates it altogether, and is not a suitable solution because of that. Again, if everything was answered with violence, than that makes us all the same and to say anything otherwise is just stupid hypocrasy. One can preach all the morals he desires, to anyone who he desires, but if he does not act by them, he is no different than the one to whom he originally preached.

A quote from the founder of the style of Japanese swordsmanship called "Shinkage Ryu" (Heart Reflection) is: "The techniques of Shinkage Ryu are unbeatable; this arises not from the needless taking of life, but from the true courage required to avoid unnecessary conflict."

[Mattacon]

To whoever did that:

If I find out who you are, when I see you, I'll take a golf club and club your brains out of your head, because that is just inhumane.
(Sorry if that was a bit gruesome)



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[Ness]

On 2004-06-22 20:47, Dangerous55 wrote:
Anyone who does that should be killed. Same thing with people who put out viruses and spyware.




No one deserves to die.

Anyway....

That's really disgusting. I'm not an animal rights person, but cruelty like that is just wrong. People like that should not be allowed to own animals.

[Kadavreski]

On 2004-06-17 12:39, Aunt_Betty wrote:


On 2004-06-17 12:37, navi wrote:
http://www.barnowl.co.uk/images/upload/136_F.jpg

Some people have no right to handle lives, be that dog, cats, birds, owls pictured here kept in a cat cage, fishes, babies.

They JUST have no idea wtf they are doing.
A pair of large OWLS! In a fucking CAT CAGE!

Is that BBQ sause?



that was both stupid and unfunny http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

at leastthey arent alone, poor buggers

[BogusKun]

I once saw some Kurdish/Iranian/Iraqi kids whatever they were fill a stray cat's mouth full of black cats and lit the fuck outta it. I was pissed because I didn't notice what they were doing until I saw them move out of the circle... then the cat was staggering... I thought it was fake, but the blood was pouring out of it's face. The most horrible fatality I've ever seen...

And a couple days ago, some guy attempted running a squirrel over in his SUV and actually ran it over while I drove behind him... I was amazed to see a squirrel barely make it out alive but the squirrel rolled into a gutter so who knows. I hope it's alright.

[Nisshoku]

And this is why I fear the world we all live in, not just because of this, but rather the world we are leaving our own children.

[Dangerous55]

On 2004-06-27 08:33, Ness wrote:


No one deserves to die.







Fine put them in a perma-coma.

[DarthFomar]

On 2004-06-28 22:00, Dangerous55 wrote:


On 2004-06-27 08:33, Ness wrote:


No one deserves to die.







Fine put them in a perma-coma.


http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif

Man....Dangerous55, you really know how to handle them trouble makers. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

I bet the hospitals would get over crowded, though. And who knows what would happen when they woke up. They could go crazy like "The Bride" did in "Kill Bill".....but then again she was shot in the head and betrayed, and she was being sexually abused while in comatose. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

I think the laws against animal abuse are harsh as it is......but they could be made to be even more harsh. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_yes.gif

[Dangerous55]

On 2004-06-29 09:27, DarthFomar wrote:


Man....Dangerous55, you really know how to handle them trouble makers. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

I bet the hospitals would get over crowded, though. And who knows what would happen when they woke up. They could go crazy like "The Bride" did in "Kill Bill".....but then again she was shot in the head and betrayed, and she was being sexually abused while in comatose. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

I think the laws against animal abuse are harsh as it is......but they could be made to be even more harsh. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_yes.gif



Fine, kill them?

[DarthFomar]

On 2004-06-29 09:55, Dangerous55 wrote:


On 2004-06-29 09:27, DarthFomar wrote:


Man....Dangerous55, you really know how to handle them trouble makers. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

I bet the hospitals would get over crowded, though. And who knows what would happen when they woke up. They could go crazy like "The Bride" did in "Kill Bill".....but then again she was shot in the head and betrayed, and she was being sexually abused while in comatose. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

I think the laws against animal abuse are harsh as it is......but they could be made to be even more harsh. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_yes.gif



Fine, kill them?


I've got a better idea......let's shove them in a life pod and throw them into outer space. Let them die miserably and slowly while they run out of food and oxygen. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif jk ^_^

[Ness]

On 2004-06-24 08:39, AYY-BEE-CEE wrote:
How can you complain about assault or mistreatment on another living creature and then say you're going to take a screwdriver to someone's head/kill/act of violence to the the person that mistreated the pet? If you say stuff like that, then I reckon you could have ended up as the same sort of person had you not been brought up to respect all creatures.

I think the animals should be given love and caring attention after what they've had to go through. Let the courts punish the animal bullies, not have us sink to their level.



A-fucking-men. By swearing to commit acts of violence against the people who abused those animals, you are no better than they are.

[KodiaX987]

Living people are better than dead people.

And thus, I kill. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[Aredhel]

Control is the name of the game. When one person decides to to inflict pain or death upon another living being, that person is exerting their control. Thus, a primevil yearning for playing God is expressed in not only the simplest of minds, but also within the ignorant dregs of our society - after all, humans aren't the only creatures which committ atrocities against other life forms. Many Earthbound animals eat their young - if humans did that, wouldn't it be horribly fucked up to read about it in the newspaper? It all comes down to control - those who do not understand or are uncomfortable in their state of existence (current, past, or even future) must exert their control, their mark, within some point of the continuum - sort of a validation which causes momentary euphoria; whether this be looking at kiddie porn, torturing small animals, or sleeping with 14 year-old boys when you're a central Florida reading teacher, our control of our actions is what leads to the most beautiful and the most horrific elements of human potential-existence. This deficency is a retardation in the development of the eternal spirit and should be understood - not shunned or threatened with jagged corkscrews but accepted as a purely human element (if that doesn't seem far to pompous).

Empathy is purely human, so those of you have sympathy for the animals - please keep it up, we need all of the irresponsible compassion we can get, but also have empathy for the pathetic people grasping onto their reality by exerting control over others. More important than societal retribution is the individual judgment passed on those retards by you - regardless of their individual consideration, hate the deed, not the person.

I am by no means defending them in terms of societal consideration, just recognizing and understanding that dreadful human factor we all enjoy and hate so much. Consider others as you would like to be considered, regardless of society, state of psyche or soul and intelligence - merely consider. Life is a passing through a fallacy - take that as you may and be eternal - you will find a love and acceptance for all beings and deeds and nothing will keep you from your ecstasy.

[InfernoNR7]

On 2004-06-29 18:29, KodiaX987 wrote:
Living people are better than dead people.

And thus, I kill. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif


Ahem, the world=full of idiots (not necessarily the "not smart" people, more like the perverse and utterly braindead [again as perverse] peopl), kill the idiots=problem solved.
Now, my religeous nature would say love all and don't kill anyone. Doesn't mean you can't pack all the *cough*homoes*cough* drug dealers, criminals, and perverse idiots into antarctica or Australia (move the aussies out first, BTW, what's what Aus' was used for at first) and give them lotsa live ammo and weapons and drugs, but no building supplies.



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[Dangerous55]

On 2004-06-29 18:28, Ness wrote:


A-fucking-men. By swearing to commit acts of violence against the people who abused those animals, you are no better than they are.




I disagree with the last statement, but I guess that isnt something we will change. That is a deep opinion.

If you feel like that you must be against the death penalty for anything. In my opinion letting a person rot for their lifes in jail is a waste.

Their was a great line in Red Dragon, I forget what it was though.

[Ness]

I am not for against the death penalty, however I do not believe it is a deterant. People don't think rationally when they are trying to murder someone. They aren't thinking "If I kill this person then I will be executed." Also as far as prison goes, most of the people in there are for crimes that shouldn't be crimes (drug use) so if we let them all go, we will have plenty of room to let people "rot" in cells.

[KodiaX987]

I wouldn't support the death penalty as a punishment, I'd support it for the sake of getting rid of the criminal. You know a good bunch of criminals just keep on going and going no matter how much jail they serve. At Montreal, someone was arrested for drunk driving for the 18th time. Hell, 9 out of 10 times, the arrested people that shows up on the news one fine day is one who happens to have a heavy criminal record. JAIL IS FUCKING USELESS.

Jails are hotels. You're warm, you have food, and absolutely no worries to take care of. There is this very funny story I once read for English class, where a hobo would commit a crime in fall, in order to spend winter in a warm jail and then get out when spring comes.

So if we know that no matter what, those idiots will just keep on breaking the law, why not frag 'em after a few times we catch him? That oughta solve a few problems.

[AYY-BEE-CEE]

On 2004-06-30 06:34, KodiaX987 wrote:
Jails are hotels. You're warm, you have food, and absolutely no worries to take care of.

Actually, they're far from paradise as you seem to think. Unless you like being locked up with violent maniacs and being unable to sleep as a result of the noise, then I can't see what's great about prison.

Prison could be a good punishment, if it was managed better, and if those who were sent there were helped to reform themselves, rather than boiling over and becoming more angry when they leave prison. Unfortunately that is not so, and that is why criminals re-offend.

You can't just kill people because they've committed crimes, it's inhumane, makes us no better and could also make them martyrs. There's also the chance of someone being wrongly convicted, then being put to death.

I'm not going to get too deep into the justice system, but just because the death penalty seems like a simple option that seems better than the current system, it doesn't always turn out to be better.

[AYY-BEE-CEE]

On 2004-06-29 22:00, InfernoNR7 wrote:
Doesn't mean you can't pack all the *cough*homoes*cough* drug dealers, criminals, and perverse idiots into antarctica or Australia

*cough*bigot*cough*

Sorry, I was just thinking of another to add to the list. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

[Dangerous55]

I support it becuase there is no reason to keep around mass murderers or other scum. Of course I would rather put them to some use, but people don't like that either.

Putting people in jail demeans both parties.

[InfinityXXX]

When i was little I use to have a beagle named Shadow that i use to let roam free. one day i saw these kids hitting something with a stick i went to where they were at and they ran away revealing Shadow who was dead. I remember crying for days and searching for those stupid kids in which i later found out they didn't even live in my neighborhood. People say i'm sensitive when it comes to anmals cuz i'm a guy but i guess i act this way coming from an broken childhood. I hate this world and the ignorant fools that populate it. When my dog died i hated those kids and my hate turned into a drive on wanting to kill those kids but killing is wrong. Thou shall not kill. I truly understand why one would say they would want to kill someone over a death of another but we can't. Its wrong and thats all there is to it. I hope and pray that those dogs have found a safe place and that they will live the rest of their life in peace.

[KodiaX987]

Well then, should a man attempt to kill me, would I be better off simply letting myself die?

[InfinityXXX]

If someone is trying to kill you then you must kill him if hes about to kill you. But killing out of ones emotions is not right. Jail is not what you think it is, comfy and warm. Beleive me, i know someone in jail. In jail you must worry everyday about dying. You can't rely on security guards to protect u if u were in jail. The security guards won't help you due to the fact that they could be threatened by other inmates not to help you or they will kill the security guards family by using an outside source. Prison is basically hell. Now certain prisons that are made for inmates that are about to get released are more leniant an inmate could watch tv and get snacks from a vending machine. You probably seen inmates from these jails
doing community service. but in those jails you still have to watch your back. The tv show oz is the closest refrence to what jail life is like but jail is even worse in real life. My mom is a person that does paper work at these type of jails in order to confirm the inmates probation and even at those type of jails we got plenty of freinds of inmates calling our house threatning my mom to let there imprisoned comrades to let them go.I have a real close person thats in prison right now. He writes letters that i won't respond to complaining about how someone might kill him and how terrible it is how the food is poioned and how many of his inmate freinds have died.Prison is not all luxury.



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[Sanjifire]

All you people saying you want to hurt them back maybe just as sadistic as the person who did it. Violence is never the answer. My father works at a high secirity prision. Trust me-prison isn't like a fun little apartment complex with guards. And to infinity, with the phone calls. Do you have a private number?



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[KodiaX987]

Damn I'm stupid. Why should I start an argument about that when I can simply link to some old thread about it:

http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=81145&forum=11