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Miroku77
Jul 9, 2004, 02:10 AM
I am a FOmar and i was wondering if i should use bringers rifle or red handgun. Since red handgun is stronger(only about 11), i was thinking that i might use that.(also i already have one)But bringers rifle has about 13 more ata. But i dont have one.

Arislan
Jul 9, 2004, 02:25 AM
Bringer's Rifle has the range and the added ATA, which is far more useful than a mere couple points of damage.

BTW, Do you actually mean Futile, as in "no use" in your location, or do you mean "Fedual" as in the time of Samurai, Warlords, and the like?

Xaos127
Jul 9, 2004, 03:02 AM
bringers rifle is better but it can be a bitch to get

Blue-Hawk
Jul 9, 2004, 09:29 AM
On 2004-07-09 01:02, Xaos127 wrote:
bringers rifle is better but it can be a bitch to get


That's an understatement. I, personally, have only seen one legit arm, and that was back on v2.... Too bad someone else got to it before me. >_<

shingo
Jul 9, 2004, 09:38 AM
i would use the bringers rifle and use some gronders on it to its max

cHaOsMaZtA
Jul 9, 2004, 01:48 PM
Fomar's can use a bringer's rifle??

And it's funny that were talking about it, cause I just got my first bringer's arm with out even trying 3 days ago.



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Dillon
Jul 9, 2004, 04:30 PM
Being a Rifle..I'm going to assume that only RAs can use the Bringer's Rifle..correct me if I'm wrong, though.

Corey
Jul 9, 2004, 04:37 PM
*Corrects*

FOmars can use Bringer's Rifle,alright. Pretty decent wep for a FO too. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

Miroku77
Jul 9, 2004, 04:38 PM
nope FOmars can use it also. I know this as a fact because my RAmar friend let me try it out and i equiped it.

Dillon
Jul 9, 2004, 04:43 PM
Strange.

Corey
Jul 9, 2004, 04:50 PM
Not really, If I'm correct, a HUcast can use a GAME MAGAZINE even though it's a wand.

Xaos127
Jul 9, 2004, 09:02 PM
http://www.pso-world.com/items.php?op=viewarticle&artid=89
according to this it aint FO material,but if you say so..

Eihwaz
Jul 9, 2004, 09:31 PM
Bringer's Rifle is better for a FOmar, unless the Red Handgun has Hit%.

And Holy Ray > Bringer's Rifle, particularly for melee FOrces, heh.

Xaos, just so you know, that page is incorrect. HUnters can't use Bringer's Rifle at all, only RAngers and FOrces can use it.



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Miroku77
Jul 10, 2004, 01:39 AM
why Holy ray over bringers rifle

FattyMcGee
Jul 10, 2004, 02:30 AM
loads of ATA, for one thing

cHaOsMaZtA
Jul 10, 2004, 02:00 PM
I just remembered. Dr. Montague is using a Bringer's Rifle in the quest Soul of Steel. So that's proof right there that forces can use it.

Somebody should fix the Bringer's Rifle item database page.

Genoa
Jul 10, 2004, 03:26 PM
On 2004-07-09 23:39, Miroku77 wrote:
why Holy ray over bringers rifle


Holy Ray has a great chance of Paralysis. Bringer's rifle cuts enemy hp in half. Personally, I like Holy Ray because of the kewl holy spear animation attack. Don't get me wrong, Bringer's Rifle animation shot is pretty kewl, but Holy Ray is kewler to me.
It just depends whether you want to paralyze or cut hp into 1/2, or if your like me, use the weapon that looks kewler to you. (Soul Banish + Holy Ray = my Happy FOmar http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif )



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Eihwaz
Jul 10, 2004, 09:05 PM
The main reason Holy Ray is better than Bringer's Rifle is that it's much more accurate. And, since Holy Ray isn't made from an enemy part, it can have Hit, thus making it even MORE accurate. And virtually all melee FOrces need as much ATA as possible.

Also, Holy Ray doesn't lower your evasion, and can be found as early as Ultimate Forest, or in Ultimate Caves.

Bringer's Rifle is slightly stronger, and has a better special. However, Demon's is highly innacurate, especially on a FOrce.

Miroku77
Jul 11, 2004, 02:55 AM
i dont plan on using the special anyways(its to inaccurate on a FOmar) so i guess that i will try to get a Holy ray(even though it looks kinda feminish.)

Genoa
Jul 11, 2004, 07:36 AM
The only character that I have that has used Holy Ray was my inaccurate FOmar and the paralysis still had a pretty good chance of hitting...