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cHaOsMaZtA
Jul 10, 2004, 03:39 PM
Well, there's several discrepancies between these two guides:
FurryBagi's Guide to Maxing Your Character's Stats (http://www.pso-world.com/sections.php?op=viewarticle&artid=940)
Character Stats (http://www.pso-world.com/sections.php?op=viewarticle&artid=343)

I did my own math and the differences betweem lvl 200 max and base listed on the RAmarl (MST & ATA), RAcast (EVP), and FOnewm (EVP) in FurryBagi's guide are either wrong, or the Character Stats Guide has several stats listed wrong.

FurryBagi lists the differnces as:
RAmarl- MST: 306 ATA:25
RAcast- EVP:79
FOnewm- EVP:75

When in reality if you do the math it should be:
RAmarl- MST: 299 ATA:24
RAcast- EVP:73
FOnewm- EVP:148

Who's right?? I'm assuming the Character Stat guide is, but it would be nice to know for sure before I start feeding my characters their mats. I know alot of people use FurryBagi's Max Stat Guide, so we should get this cleared quickly.

I'm double posting this in Site Related and Mags, Quest, Item and Section ID Discussion so that more people will see this.

RicoRoyal
Jul 11, 2004, 01:08 AM
I can verify that you are in fact quite correct about the error on FOnewm EVP.

Here's a link to a thread I made explaining this:
http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=74983&forum=7
I doubt very much the guide will be fixed, but at least you can know for sure that someone else (me) has confirmed that FOnewms cannot get anywhere near maxed using that guide.

The error you found on the RAmarl and RAcast is nowhere near as severe as the one on the FOnewm, but should nonetheless still be addressed. I will take some time tommorow (or perhaps monday http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_cry.gif ...very busy) to doublecheck your math on the RAs, although I really do believe you are correct about there being an error. Glad to see someone besides me took the time to check the math BEFORE just blindly plunging into a world of uninevitable error. Hope someone else hears us out, but if not, then sucks to be them. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif


EDIT: Almost forgot... DO NOT POST IN THE THREAD THAT I GAVE A LINK TO! IF YOU DO, I WILL COME TO YOUR HOUSE AND I WILL EAT YOUR YOUNGEST BORN CHILD. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif Have a nice day...


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yellow5
Jul 11, 2004, 01:52 AM
Jenkin's Materials and Mag Planning Spreadsheet: http://wibble.topcities.com/pso/

Minor error in spreadsheet: RAmar's max ATP is 1260, not 1250.

cHaOsMaZtA
Jul 11, 2004, 09:56 AM
RicoRoyal: Thanks for listening, man. Yea, I've already seen your thread. I did a forum search and yours was one that came up. Hopefully we can get someone to change the Max Stats guide. I'm planning on planning how to get max stats with all the chars using my own math, and maybe I'll submit as a guide. I'm going on vacation for a week, so I'll see whats happened when I get back. As far as I know, my math is right, but if you could check it that'd be great.

Yellow: Well, I can't look at that spreadsheet right now, because I don't have excel on the computer I'm using. But I'll do it later. Thanks for that. I'm sure it will be useful.



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Anuminus
Jul 12, 2004, 01:14 PM
Yes, there are quite a few... mistakes on the maxing stats guides. I max my characters stats by using the guides as a well... guide, then I use the Character Manager feature (On the downloads list) to get it right. (Also, to get the mag I want I use the very nice Mag Farmer.) Oh yeah, and Chaosmatza, have a good vacation!

cHaOsMaZtA
Jul 17, 2004, 07:36 PM
Thanks anuminus, It was alot of fun!!

But seriosly, we're not gonna change the guide?? This is just gonna die??

I suggest we use whatever RicoRoyal designed for his FOnewm, since he seems to have studied that extensively. Maybe I'll get around to planning how to max the other two later (That's a big maybe!!). They don't have that big of a adjustment, so it shouldn't be that hard.

RicoRoyal
Jul 18, 2004, 01:26 AM
Oh, hey chaos. I completely forgot about this thread. Really sorry about that. I certainly hope this thing doesn't just sink into nothingness again.

I just checked your math. Guess what! Furrybagi made huge errors on the RAcast. Unlike the errors on the FOnewm, the errors on the RAcast work to everyones advantage. I now present to you...

RicoRoyal's Mini-guide to Maxing RAcast

Needed: (your math was correct)
ATP: 491
DFP: 101
MST: 0
ATA: 25
EVP: 73 (not 79, as suggested by Furrybagi)
LCK: 90

Materials:
Power: 73
Defense: 26 28
Mind: 0
Evasion: 17
Luck: 25

Leftover Materials: 9 7

Mag: (same as FurryBagi's guide)
DEF: 5
POW: 153
DEX: 42
MIND: 0

Units:
1. God/Ability
2. God/Ability
3. -
4. -

No, your not seeing incorrectly. You need not adjust your moniter. Only 2 God/Ability units are required. All yellow numbers at level 200. Heck, you even get leftover materials. Furrybagi made some sort of error while computing Power gained, which caused materials to run out. You only need 73 power materials (not 94). That gives you enough extra mats to complete what furrybagi thought was a lack of evasion (which is why God/Legs was in that guide). I hope you RAcast users will enjoy this (if you hadn't already figured it out on your own). Here's hoping you didn't already finish your material diet using Furrybagi's guide. If you did, then my sympathies go out to you.

Chaos, I got other news for you. Furrybagi didn't completely mess up on the RAmarl. THERE IS NO ERROR IN THE ATA CALCULATIONS. Check your math again; it really was 25 (not the 24 you thought). Your calculations on MST are nonetheless correct. I haven't tried to check all of the RAmarls stats yet, but if Furrybaggi's math is as bad on the RAmarl as it was on the RAcast, then you can all expect another mini-guide from me. Chaos, I think you and I need to make a new guide and just hope people click on that one instead of Furrybagi's (a great guide, but too many errors). I just don't see anyone doing anything to get rid of the guide anytime soon unless there is something to replace it. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_yes.gif

To anyone reading this: I must stress this once again! If you ever plan on maxing your characters, do feel free to use the guides, but always (ALWAYS!!!) check the guide's mathematics. You can never be 100% sure that the guide knows what it's talking about. Better safe than sorry.
http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

ENJOY
> Everybody


EDIT: Minor error on the Defense materials. You'll need two more than was previously listed. I had accidently taken MAG DEF points to account for 2 character DEF points, when it is in fact a 1-1 trade-off. It's fixed and the RAcast will still be all yellow at 200 with 7 materials to spare. The error has been fixed and the incorrect numbers have been striked through.



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Anuminus
Jul 18, 2004, 02:13 AM
Great Job Rico, I have a friend who has a RAcast who's not on PSOW but he will be very interested in this guide. Thanks again. Bookmarking this one. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

RicoRoyal
Jul 18, 2004, 02:43 AM
On 2004-07-18 00:13, Anuminus wrote:
Great Job Rico, I have a friend who has a RAcast who's not on PSOW but he will be very interested in this guide. Thanks again. Bookmarking this one. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif



Your welcome. But I should be the one thanking you. Few people care to fix these types of problems, or even to take a quick glance at what they are doing to their poor, poor characters. You and your friend deserve better, which is why I hope Chaos tags along and helps me make a nice new Maxing Stats Guide. I'm also working on a guide just for raising FOnewms (ask Sitka, the one getting all the juicy details). It is an honor to serve others, assuming they are willing to accept said help. Thank you all (all 3 of you http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif) for caring.

Quo
Jul 18, 2004, 03:06 AM
On 2004-07-18 00:43, RicoRoyal wrote:


On 2004-07-18 00:13, Anuminus wrote:
Great Job Rico, I have a friend who has a RAcast who's not on PSOW but he will be very interested in this guide. Thanks again. Bookmarking this one. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif



Your welcome. But I should be the one thanking you. Few people care to fix these types of problems, or even to take a quick glance at what they are doing to their poor, poor characters. You and your friend deserve better, which is why I hope Chaos tags along and helps me make a nice new Maxing Stats Guide. I'm also working on a guide just for raising FOnewms (ask Sitka, the one getting all the juicy details). It is an honor to serve others, assuming they are willing to accept said help. Thank you all (all 3 of you http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif) for caring.



I'd be willing to lend a hand with that guide. You can PM me. . . tomorrow. I'm tired.

cHaOsMaZtA
Jul 18, 2004, 09:50 AM
On 2004-07-17 23:26, RicoRoyal wrote:
Oh, hey chaos. I completely forgot about this thread. Really sorry about that. I certainly hope this thing doesn't just sink into nothingness again.

I just checked your math. Guess what! Furrybagi made huge errors on the RAcast. Unlike the errors on the FOnewm, the errors on the RAcast work to everyones advantage. I now present to you...

RicoRoyal's Mini-guide to Maxing RAcast

Needed: (your math was correct)
ATP: 491
DFP: 101
MST: 0
ATA: 25
EVP: 73 (not 79, as suggested by Furrybagi)
LCK: 90

Materials:
Power: 73
Defense: 26 28
Mind: 0
Evasion: 17
Luck: 25

Leftover Materials: 9 7

Mag: (same as FurryBagi's guide)
DEF: 5
POW: 153
DEX: 42
MIND: 0

Units:
1. God/Ability
2. God/Ability
3. -
4. -

No, your not seeing incorrectly. You need not adjust your moniter. Only 2 God/Ability units are required. All yellow numbers at level 200. Heck, you even get leftover materials. Furrybagi made some sort of error while computing Power gained, which caused materials to run out. You only need 73 power materials (not 94). That gives you enough extra mats to complete what furrybagi thought was a lack of evasion (which is why God/Legs was in that guide). I hope you RAcast users will enjoy this (if you hadn't already figured it out on your own). Here's hoping you didn't already finish your material diet using Furrybagi's guide. If you did, then my sympathies go out to you.

Chaos, I got other news for you. Furrybagi didn't completely mess up on the RAmarl. THERE IS NO ERROR IN THE ATA CALCULATIONS. Check your math again; it really was 25 (not the 24 you thought). Your calculations on MST are nonetheless correct. I haven't tried to check all of the RAmarls stats yet, but if Furrybaggi's math is as bad on the RAmarl as it was on the RAcast, then you can all expect another mini-guide from me. Chaos, I think you and I need to make a new guide and just hope people click on that one instead of Furrybagi's (a great guide, but too many errors). I just don't see anyone doing anything to get rid of the guide anytime soon unless there is something to replace it. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_yes.gif

To anyone reading this: I must stress this once again! If you ever plan on maxing your characters, do feel free to use the guides, but always (ALWAYS!!!) check the guide's mathematics. You can never be 100% sure that the guide knows what it's talking about. Better safe than sorry.
http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

ENJOY
> Everybody




*applauds proudly* Nicely done. I think we might have to go back and check all of Furrybagi's math. I was just checking up my own max and base stats differences with Furrybagi's cause I didn't want to make any mistakes when I planned how max out my characters. I didn't realise there were other mistakes not related to the lvl 200 max and base differences.


As far as the RAmarl goes, I went back to my first post and clicked on character stats, went down to Gamecube Base Stats, found ATA and looked in the RAmarl column and it said 216. Did the same for Gamecube Max Stats, and it said 240. Now call me an idiot but the difference between those is 24?? Wait, I just checked again (the 5th time, at least) and yep its still 240-216=24. I don't know what you looking at or thinking, but no biggie.

Well, how do you wanna go about making that guide?? Should we split it up into 3 parts, and then have everyone check each others math?? I probably work on it today or tomorrow, but we should decide who's gonna do what.



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RicoRoyal
Jul 18, 2004, 12:23 PM
Mornin', Chaos. Glad you liked the mini-guide. But I kind of made a small error on it. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif It was 28 Defense materials, not 26 (as I had previously posted). No biggie though, there is still 7 materials left over and all yellow numbers at level 200.

As to the matter of the RAmarl; I got my numbers from PSOW character pages:

RAmarl (http://www.pso-world.com/sections.php?op=viewarticle&artid=1190) (241-216 = 25 according to this page)
RAcast (http://www.pso-world.com/sections.php?op=viewarticle&artid=1188)
FOnewm (http://www.pso-world.com/sections.php?op=viewarticle&artid=1182)

What page did you get your RAmarl numbers from? Was it this one (http://www.pso-world.com/sections.php?op=viewarticle&artid=923)? That PSOW page seems to disagree with the other PSOW page. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_nono.gif
Again, I don't think it makes much of a difference, but we should agree on numbers before we start on anything.

TO ANY RAMARL USERS: What is your max ATA? If it's not too much trouble, please equip a few God/Arms and post your results in this here thread. It would help me and chaos out quite a bit, seeing as how we don't own RAmarls and the PSOW numbers don't match up. Thanks in advance, everyone! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_yes.gif

EDIT: Hey, chaos, think you could delete the quote you have of my original mini-guide? I'd rather people just looked at the original one with the fixed DEF numbers. It will avoid confusion for people who don't have the patience to read all of our post. Thanks. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

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cHaOsMaZtA
Jul 18, 2004, 02:38 PM
I just made the same edits as you did, if thats ok.

Concerning the RAmarl, I do have a levle 52 one that I was going to delete but I haven't got around to. I also have 4 God/Arms and a dex mag (6/1/180/1) that I could give to her and see waht the max is. If I'm not to lazy.

Oh and I just PMed you back. I might start working on the max stats guide we're gonna do. That's it for now, I guess. G'Morning to you to. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

iamfanboy
Jul 18, 2004, 05:01 PM
RAMARL ATA MAX IS 241.

Thank you for your time, and I will be most interested to see what all you do with these maxing stats guides...

RicoRoyal
Jul 18, 2004, 05:11 PM
On 2004-07-18 15:01, iamfanboy wrote:
RAMARL ATA MAX IS 241.



Thanks for your help http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_yes.gif

Quo
Jul 18, 2004, 06:11 PM
I got your RAmarl guide right here:

200 max - 200 base

ATP 402
DFP 151
MST 299
ATA 25
EVP 102
LCK 90

Units:

1: God/Ability
2: God/Ability
3: God/Ability
4: --

Mag

DEF: 5
POW: 100
DEX: 38
MIND: 57

Materials

Power: 71
Def: 43
Mind: 63
Evade: 21
Luck: 15

Remaining Material: 37

Well, That should be it.

If you can find a way to max her out without the third God/Ability then: You > Me.

You could probably max her out with a God/Power or God/Mind (they are easier to find) in place of that third God/Ability but that would screw up everything above.

I'll run those scenarios if you don't already have it covered.

Sorry this post isn't very cosmetic.

Edit: This math was done using PSOWorld's character data guides. If they're wrong, I'm screwed.

Edit Edit: I'M A DUFUS. I forgot materials. Thanks Chaos for pointing that out. *smacks self in head*

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Nai_Calus
Jul 18, 2004, 07:46 PM
I can't find anything wrong with either FurryBagi or SpyroDi's FOmar stat maxing, but I'm not happy with either as they don't allow for a rare Mag, so I came up with a way to max a FOmar and still allow for Rati or Nidra or anything else obtainable with 50 DEX.

-----

Materials:

100 Power
47 Def
30 Mind
25 Evade
45 Luck

3 mats left over if you want to put them to something early.

Mag:

5/0/50/145

Units:

God/Power
God/Body
God/Legs
Fourth slot free, go with God/Battle

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ATP maxes with mats and God/Power. One wasted stat point occurs here - Mats + Unit total to 1003 of 1002 max ATP.
DFP maxes with mag, mats and God/Body. No statpoint waste, adds up perfectly. FOmar DFP sucks, God/Body can be dispensed with if necessary, should be second priority for ditching behind EVP.
MST maxes with mag and mats. No stat point waste, adds perfectly.
ATA maxes with mag. No stat point waste, amazingly. FOmar needs exactly 25 ATA difference to max.
EVP maxes with mats and God/Legs. No statpoint waste here, either. FOmar max EVP is kind of crappy. Get rid of God/Legs first if you want a second free slot.
LCK maxes with mats. Obviously no stat point waste.

Ian's suggested melee FOmar equipment in conjunction with this:

Soul Banish
S-Rank Twin
Holy Ray
Aura Field(Even though it IS ugly. XP)
God/Power
God/Body
God/Legs(Or applicable Cure/ unit)
God/Battle
Tripolic Shield
Rati or Nidra 5/0/50/145

Have fun, children.

Corey
Jul 18, 2004, 07:50 PM
Oh my god.
Looks like I found my new FO class.

RicoRoyal
Jul 18, 2004, 10:01 PM
On 2004-07-18 17:46, Ian-KunX wrote:
I can't find anything wrong with either FurryBagi or SpyroDi's FOmar stat maxing, but I'm not happy with either as they don't allow for a rare Mag, so I came up with a way to max a FOmar and still allow for Rati or Nidra or anything else obtainable with 50 DEX.


Thank you for checking Furrybagi's numbers. They are, as you said, correct. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_yes.gif

You are also correct about Furrybagi's numbers not allowing for a rare mag; at first glance, that is. If you simply manipulate Power/Mind materials and POW/MIND mag stats you could easily get a rare mag with any of the following IDs: Skyly, Pinkal, Yellowboze, Greennill, Oran, Purplenum. As to what you might do if all you have are Viridia, Blueful, Redria, or Whitill characters: simply use the remainding 37 materials (the ones in Furrybagi's guide) to compensate for the extra DEF stats you'll be adding to your mag in order to have a "DEF + DEX = POW + MIND" condition at level 100 (the earliest you can get a rare mag). All that takes is 2 more DEF points on the mag, 2 more Power/Mind materials and 1 less Defense material. So, instead of 37 leftover materials, you will have 36. You'll also need only two units, rather than three.

Your guide is great for someone who can't get ahold of two God/Ability units (offliners anyone?). We thank you for the guide, but we would rather use 2 units (paying no attention to rarity) than to use 3 units. Aside from using more units than Furrybagi, your guide also requires more materials. We (Quo, Chaos and myself) are aiming for a few things in making a new Max stats guide:

1. Use as few armor slots as possible
2. Use as few God/Abilities as possible, but not at the cost of using another armor slot
3. Balance Mag and Mat Stats so that it is possible to get a rare mag.

So basically, I prefer FurryBagi's approach over yours. No biggie though; your guide is still great, but you should play around with mag and material usages a bit more in case you ever have doubts about getting rare mags.

Quo
Jul 18, 2004, 10:08 PM
Right. Bagi's numbers were right on the FOmar. I've been assigned to working on him http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif .

If my calculations are correct. I just found a way (maybe several ways) to max out the FOmar, get any rare mag you want, and use only 2 units, a God/Ability and another God/-- unit (the second unit is what makes several possibilities). Granted I still have to double and triple check my math. You end up with 7 or 2 left over materials depending on which second unit you pick.

Edit: Did you know there are 6 different ways to max out a FOmarl without using a single God/Ability? You still have to use 1 unit, but it doesn't have to be a God/Ability. Bagi didn't check as thoroughly as he/she should have. Again I have to double and triple check my math, but I'm 99.67% sure that I'm right.

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RicoRoyal
Jul 18, 2004, 10:16 PM
Quo, you would be the awesomest of awesomes if you could get a FOmar to max with only one god/ability. Good luck with that! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif I'm gonna go get the heck off of PSOW, cause this topic and our project is getting far too interesting for me to be able to concentrate on my calculus homework. See you all again on wednesday night. Don't expect me to be on much before then, unless some one comes up with some sort of miraculous break-through on the max stats stuff. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif Bubye for now...

Nai_Calus
Jul 18, 2004, 11:00 PM
I'm glad you think it sucks, but I didn't make it for you. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif I made it as an exercise in 'Well, I'm bored and not interested in EVER hunting God/Abilities, and I want a Mag that will always be useful that doesn't require re-writing this guide at which point I might as well just do my own'. XP

While we're picking at old maxing stats guides, let's not forget this one:
http://www.pso-world.com/sections.php?op=viewarticle&artid=1296
(Which, if it's correct, has a HUcast that will fit your requirements. XP)

Hell, some people are probably already going to HAVE a 5/0/50/145 Mag they've done up by the time they get a FOmar to L200. Thus saving labour. Futhermore, two of my units are disposable without sacrificing stats that are actually meaningful - Nobody is going to miss 50 EVP on a FOmar when his EVP is pathetically low and almost pointless, and the same goes for DFP.

Relying on God/Abilities means you compromise all your stats if one has to come off if for some reason you find yourself interested in using 3 non-stat units, i.e, Cure/Freeze and Cure/Confuse in Seabed, or a couple of Resist/Blizzards against Dark Falz where DFP and EVP do you no good anyway. FOmar has low ATA, and even 2 points of it lost is a critical situation for most people.(I can hit in Ult online Ruins with 181 total ATA, but I'm a freak. XP) So keeping it to two units to max stats can actually be an issue. And indeed, if you don't melee for some reason, you can ditch the God/Power and God/Battle in favour of Cure/ or Resist/ units and still have everything useful to you as a tech/support Force maxed. Or even all four. *shrug*

My personal criteria are as thus:

Can I ditch some or all of my units without signifigantly impacting things I'm going to want/need?
Can I use a Mag I probably already own without having to re-write the guide at which point I might as well figure it out on my own, thus defeating the point of a guide? If I do need to raise the Mag, will it ever be useful outside of when I reach L200?
Can these units be easily found, leaving me free to hunt for other, better things that will take just as long as a God/Ability to find and be more useful in the long run? The PURPLENUM God/Ability drop off a Gibbles is the same rate as the SKYLY drop off a Delbiter. Guess which ID has a better Tower? Guess which is more useful? Screw the God/Abilities, I'm hunting me a Soul Banish with Hit, a Sealed J-Sword, a MKB, a PoL, a Yamigarusu, etc.

Wanting to do it with as few units as possible is a good thing, but you reach a point when you're relying too heavily on those two that take too long to search for.

That's my take on it, anyway.

cHaOsMaZtA
Jul 18, 2004, 11:20 PM
That's actually rather interesting. I never thought of it that way. We might have to take that into consideration when dealing with characters who have to use 3 or 4 god/abilities to max theirs stats. Thanks for shedding a new light on this, Ian-Kunx. I'm gonna need to think about that.



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Quo
Jul 18, 2004, 11:52 PM
Well guys, I think were going to have more work on our hands than we bargained for. From the work I've done, I've seen 5 ways to max out a FOmar using only 2 units, 6 ways to max out a FOmarl using only 2. . . sorry, 1 unit, and 6 5 ways to max out a RAmarl using 3 units. I think you guys will see this trend when you start working too. I think we need to include all of these possibilities in the guide.

Since there are so many ways to max a RAmarl, I will not share my updated findings on this thread (it gets long and a little confusing). Instead, I will submit my data on her when we share our findings on Thursday.

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Sitka
Jul 19, 2004, 11:13 AM
Now this is one of the more useful threads I've seen on PSO.

Many questions have been answered. I can't wait to recreate some characters with some decent planning in mind. Creating what is considered an outstanding example of the character is something I really enjoy doing.

I'm a little dismayed by RicoRoyal's revelations regarding the Racast as Sitka Blue D is only six levels away from 200 and that's a horrible time to learn that you did it wrong (using the original maxing stats guides).

Thanks for the wonderful work from all the posters on this thread. I, for one, really appreciate your efforts. APPLAUDS!

Anuminus
Jul 19, 2004, 02:25 PM
Argh, my Internets been down all day yesterday but its finally back on! Rico, I'd be able to lend a hand, like Quo, PM me. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif