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Piranha_Man
Jul 18, 2004, 03:00 PM
I was just wondering if there are set chances for a rare enemy appearing. Or are there any theories on rare enemies such as they appear according to beat time or something.... thanks to anyone who knows.

darthsaber9x9
Jul 18, 2004, 03:03 PM
its been sadi to be 1/512 but many say it is nearer to 1/400

Piranha_Man
Jul 18, 2004, 03:21 PM
Heh.... 990 Ob Lilys.... not one Mil. But at first it only took 27 Ob Lilys and I found one.... heh...

Mixfortune
Jul 18, 2004, 03:24 PM
On 2004-07-18 13:21, Piranha_Man wrote:
Heh.... 990 Ob Lilys.... not one Mil. But at first it only took 27 Ob Lilys and I found one.... heh...


So 2 Mils in 1017 Obs, averaging to about 1/508.5
I'm not saying the actual rate is 1/508.5, but I'm using that to show that averages don't always mean what they seem.

Piranha_Man
Jul 18, 2004, 03:39 PM
No.... 1 Mil/ 1017 Obs, averaging about 1/1017....

Mixfortune
Jul 18, 2004, 03:51 PM
Sorry, misread your post.
But, the average does sort of seem in your favor at the moment.

Main point still stands though... the average is just a guideline for how often you can sort of expect the occurence. Could be another ten thousand Obs before you see another Mil, and the average could still be the same.

Piranha_Man
Jul 18, 2004, 03:53 PM
Yep... I know. But the weirdest thing about this all is that on Thursday I piped for under an hour using about 60 pipes in all and found 4 Mil Lilys.... still no Dem Comet though...

Cc08
Jul 18, 2004, 04:07 PM
its been sadi to be 1/512 but many say it is nearer to 1/400 The ones that say it is 1/512 are the ones that have ripped apart the games files and looked at them. They know for a fact it is 1/512. The people that say 1/400 have not done this and are guessing. You can guess which number is more accurate.

Ketchup345
Jul 18, 2004, 04:20 PM
On 2004-07-18 14:07, Cc08 wrote:

its been sadi to be 1/512 but many say it is nearer to 1/400 The ones that say it is 1/512 are the ones that have ripped apart the games files and looked at them. They know for a fact it is 1/512. The people that say 1/400 have not done this and are guessing. You can guess which number is more accurate.


No.

Actually, the rare enemy data was never pulled.

Sou herself said that the chance seemed to be closer to 1/400. The 1/512 was just a rough first estimate.

We don't have a proven rare average from the data yet.

SJ
Jul 18, 2004, 04:32 PM
How many pipes (ryuker) and rabarta (x2) could I do in 10 hours...?
COS THATS HOW MANY SLIMES IV GONE THROUGH WITHOUT A RED PUNKASS SLIME APPEARIN!!! *punches wall*

Akulamenuri
Jul 18, 2004, 05:04 PM
Thats bad luck with the slimes http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif. Ive seen about 1500 El Rappys and not a single Pal Rappy has appeared.

MXdude
Jul 18, 2004, 09:25 PM
well im not having luck with rare enemies either just look in the sig....lol spend all day piping for damn lilies and turn out with nothin!

Cc08
Jul 18, 2004, 09:35 PM
No.

Actually, the rare enemy data was never pulled.

Sou herself said that the chance seemed to be closer to 1/400. The 1/512 was just a rough first estimate.

We don't have a proven rare average from the data yet. Wow, I always thought they pulled it from the game. But how could you estimate 1/512, thats such a random number.

cHaOsMaZtA
Jul 18, 2004, 11:24 PM
I've piped over 40 rare enemies, and the 1/500 seems to be pretty close to correct. Now, I know thats not very many. Many people have piped that many for 1 item, but thats just my 2 cents.

KaFKa
Jul 18, 2004, 11:39 PM
On 2004-07-18 19:35, Cc08 wrote:

No.

Actually, the rare enemy data was never pulled.

Sou herself said that the chance seemed to be closer to 1/400. The 1/512 was just a rough first estimate.

We don't have a proven rare average from the data yet. Wow, I always thought they pulled it from the game. But how could you estimate 1/512, thats such a random number.


you just answered yourself. they came up with a random number close to what it seems to be

SJ
Jul 19, 2004, 02:00 AM
On 2004-07-18 19:25, MXdude wrote:
well im not having luck with rare enemies either just look in the sig....lol spend all day piping for damn lilies and turn out with nothin!


Dpending what ids you're using, you cou;d be under the expected rate...

KaFKa
Jul 19, 2004, 02:51 AM
ids dont have an effect on the rare enemy appearance rate. stop spreading false information