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BioFan
Jun 18, 2002, 03:42 AM
I know there is another thread about this, different video...
Looks good, characters seem closer to the camera...
Yuji Naka is cool...http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

http://gpara.com/news/02/06/news200206170010_xb.htm

click picture to see video...http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif


please no bashing on this thread...I will delete this thread if it goes out of hand...I think I can do that, can't I??

only ver.2 is shown...but it plays great...http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif...hey it's PSO...http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif...I will get this game even if it is only ver.2...I love this game no matter what...http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif Of course I wish it is GCN version...but I will get XBox ver. no matter what...it's different...the voice comm seems cool...http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif



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Kent
Jun 18, 2002, 05:12 AM
eeing as the game is only around 40% complete, there's still time to add all the stuff from the GameCube version.

And only moderators can delete threads.

Riel
Jun 18, 2002, 06:34 AM
Cool,nice find Bio..i wonder what someone in the audience asked when everyone started to laugh a bit,heh...anyway i think it's good for the Japanese players to get it free...for me though if it doesnt have the Gamecube extras,i'll just stick to GC,since it won't be free for us here and i have played DC version to death.

Rubesahl
Jun 18, 2002, 10:10 AM
I'm also getting Xbox version no matter what Bio-Fan http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif The voice chat thing is so cool heheh. Even if it's ver.2 it'll still probably have stuff that make it different from the DC Ver.2 http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

BioFan
Jun 18, 2002, 01:56 PM
I posted the video at sonic team's bbs and they deleted it...someone said to me it is taboo to talk abt xbox version...I wonder why...is that why no website has any info on it??probably they tell them not to post anything??hmmmm

Nendaiki
Jun 18, 2002, 02:16 PM
Voice chat so cool...sigh. The voice chat is what makes it worse than version 2. Voice chat should never be in any way a reason to get a v2 XBox PSO over a much more well rounded GC EP1&2. I tell you this as a friend trying to help.

Nendaiki
Jun 18, 2002, 02:19 PM
Oh and about them deleting that thread, I think the ties between Sega and Nintendo are a little stronger than you can plainly see. I know Yugi Naka does not like XBox but loves GCN, so it's no surprise to see that the XBox version is a little covered up....Or it could be one of those strange Japanese customs. Most likely covering it up though.

Greg
Jun 18, 2002, 02:30 PM
On 2002-06-18 12:16, Nendaiki wrote:
The voice chat is what makes it worse than version 2.

In your oppinion


Voice chat should never be in any way a reason to get a v2 XBox PSO over a much more well rounded GC EP1&2.

A) you don't know it's Ver.2
B) he can get it for any reason he likes


I tell you this as a friend trying to help.

Replace Friend with fanboy.

spawn
Jun 18, 2002, 02:32 PM
X-box was called project Midway by M$, Midway was the battle where the tide turned against the empire of Japan in WW2. That is why most Japanese people hate xbox and refuse to talk about it.

Nendaiki
Jun 18, 2002, 04:22 PM
Fanboy is thinking of a console or it's games as superior with blind faith. Everything I stated has documented fact in it so let me rephrase this.
#1- Voice chat is cool in it's ease, but it destroys the ease of communication with people who speak another language. Also destroys communication for mute people.
#2- It's long been well known Yugi Naka doesn't like XBox, and he's made a number of comments that have made it clear the XBox version wasn't too special. I can't back these up all too well without proof, but you could find them all on IGN somewhere anyway.
#3- XBox has superiority in many ways, but it has it's crap too. Just like GCN. This game is one in which it's pretty clear with research that the GCN version is the better buy.
#4- I AM saying this as a friend trying to help people make good decisions. I am offering facts so that your choices will be the right ones. How DARE you try and decide what I am. When one offers facts and his comments are disected and studied by one to put that person down, one must question the meaning of fanboy and who the fanboy really is.

BioFan
Jun 18, 2002, 04:56 PM
why must all Xbox PSO topic go to this direction??
it's PSO, we love PSO...
and Nendaiki, it's Yuji Naka for god's sake...if you love PSO you should at least know how to spell it's creator's name correctly...
I really don't care what you guys are saying and kinda tired of all this bullshit...it's my decision what I want to buy and it is your decision and opinion what you want and like...no point correcting each other...but this is my thread and I hate to see it go like the other thread.
this is about PSO, not systems...I don't care about xbox or GCN, I give no crap...I love PSO...DC, PC, Xbox and GCN ver are all good...PSO is a great game no matter where it is and probably I will only get that system just for PSO, not the other way round...I won't buy XBox or GCN is Sega is not making game for them...I love Sega and PSO is one of my favourite game...I have played ver.2 to death, but still looking forward to Xbox ver...even if it is just a version 2...cos I love it so much...And there is nothing wrong with my choice, right??it's mine and not yours...it's my money too...unless you want to buy for me...I would really really really want GCN ver...but I don't have GCN and right now I don't have the money to buy everything for PSO online...but I will one day...Cos I love PSO and not because I think GCN ver is better...It's the same game, PSO is great...love it no matter what...nuff said...

BioFan
Jun 18, 2002, 05:04 PM
oh by the way, why did I choose XBox over GCN if you asked me...cos of PDO, only for a game...I love that game...http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif
and at the moment, I could only buy one system sadly...and hey Xbox is getting PSO too, even maybe inferior version but I will still enjoy the damn game cos I love it...
I want to trade in my PS2 but then again it is getting Shinobi...http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif
and my bro has GCN anyway, we may not live together but I can play his...http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif
but anyway enough about the system bashing, this is all about PSO...if you love PSO then you wouldn't care...it's not about system guys...I LOVE PSO!!!!!!!!!
http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

LunarShadowX
Jun 18, 2002, 05:08 PM
I'd like to point you to the way the "menu" for which buttons do what and the players names list, I'd like to point out how they look in this video...they look like the GC version's. My guess is, this will be PSO:Ep.I&II .

Nightmare_PSO_Legend
Jun 18, 2002, 05:15 PM
I,Nightmare am looking forward to the x-box version. Plus think about it. X-box has a built in hard drive which in turn could be used to download new maps for us ffans to play. plus the voice option is pretty tight.

Beeach
Jun 18, 2002, 05:20 PM
Good job BioFan. I quit DC ver2 in november, i loved PSO so much i imported, but i quit way to early now it;s too late to go back :'(. I really want to play the new versions of PSO, I jsut can't wait, I need it now. I see the makers playing it and it looks fine and it looks to be working, I jsut want it so bad... I WANT IT NOW!!! lol

Denny
Jun 18, 2002, 05:25 PM
Sonic Team has message boards? Where?

BioFan, I can't wait for both versions, either. I think I'll just import the GC version to hole me over until the Xbox version is out. Unfortunately, I can't get the video from the link that you posted. Did they show anything new?

I have no idea how I'll be able to even up the time between both versions of PSO. ^_^

Nendaiki
Jun 18, 2002, 05:44 PM
All I can say is thanks for Pointing out the Yuji Naka thing...I haven't bothered with anything Segaish in a long time and I've been reading lamer boards. It's not like I didn't know how to spell that when I cared, but thanks for reminding me. O_o.
Oh, and if you really don't care then it shouldn't really matter. I speak only if you want the best. So love your PSO disc in whichever way you feel necessary.

BioFan
Jun 18, 2002, 05:44 PM
Beeach...I quit PSO in january, but I just got back online again 2 weeks ago...renew my HL, get a free ISP and now I am online and yes I still enjoy it so much a year after...http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif
I imported ver.2 as well...http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif can't believe how much fun this game is...http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

Denny, well if you go to sonic team japanese website, they have BBS...all are in japanese though...they have BBS for DC's PSO, PC's PSO, GCN Trial PSO, general PSO, sonic Adventure, Sonic Team and other games...but sadly all in Japanese, but you could post in English if you want...Yuji Naka and Sonic Team posted once in a while...they don't reply to our messages, only occasionally...rarely I should say...but yeah if you want you can post something and let them know what you want to say...http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif
Well the video, it's from Xbox Summer Conference, nothing new, just Yuji Naka and some Microsoft Jp guy(if I am not wrong) playing PSO...showing the voice chat function...The Microsoft guy died, and the audience laughed...lol...it's pretty cool to see anyway...Characters seem bigger too...it is working well, the voice chat seems great...like talking on the phone...it's sweet anyway...

Strider_Gren
Jun 18, 2002, 05:52 PM
I think what people are trying to say when they bring up "PSO won't work with voice chat", they are implying on it's translation features. How are they taking a stance on translating Japanese, French, German VOICE into English? What good is talking to some one in those countries, if you don't know what the hell they're talkin about?

Wewt
Jun 18, 2002, 05:59 PM
On 2002-06-18 15:52, Strider_Gren wrote:
I think what people are trying to say when they bring up "PSO won't work with voice chat", they are implying on it's translation features. How are they taking a stance on translating Japanese, French, German VOICE into English? What good is talking to some one in those countries, if you don't know what the hell they're talkin about?


That would be the main fault with voice chat...like someone said in a previous post about this, voice chat as an addition would've been the wiser option.

Denny
Jun 18, 2002, 06:21 PM
The word select system is still in the game.

BioFan, thanks for the information.

Nendaiki
Jun 18, 2002, 06:22 PM
I think that's the whole MS thing.
"(Bill)Ok, we like voice, so make everything on our network require voice communication! *Scrawny guy in back raises hand* Um, sir, what about communication with people of other languages? (Bill) Good point! Make them learn English!"

GhoStar
Jun 18, 2002, 08:08 PM
X-box was called project Midway by M$, Midway was the battle where the tide turned against the empire of Japan in WW2. That is why most Japanese people hate xbox and refuse to talk about it.The reason the Japanese hate Xbox and most shops stopped carrying it after launch is because:

A), it lacks a killer-app aimed for the Japanese market (big-name RPG)
B), it mainly has games developed to appeal to the US and European audience

BioFan
Jun 18, 2002, 10:12 PM
I have to agree with some of you here, personally I prefer to use the keyboard than the voice comm...especially if I am playing with stragers...I wish MS wouldn't be too selfish and not include keyboard support, but they already make the decision...I never said I love Xbox/MS...heck, I hate MS just for making that stupid decision, voice comm is cool, but there are others who don't prefer the voice comm, at least they should give us an option for keyboard chat as well, but then again the word select is still there...even using keyboard some japanese didn't understand what we typed too...so probably the same but voice is a little harder for us to communicate...and some of us don't prefer to speak when playing game, I am one of them actually...even when I play with friends at my house, I kept quiet most of the time...http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif
I don't feel comfortable...maybe some of you think it's weird I am looking forward to XBox version now...I wish I have a GCN, but I am short of money, buying 10 games for xbox alone this year, and tekki will cost as much as GCN alone...so definitely not this year if I get a GCN, but probably sometime in the future, I may...but for now, I have no plan to get it..http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif
I wish I can though...want PSO eps 1 & 2...but XBox ver is cool enough for me...http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif
I will get XBox live as well anyway, so might as well get my most fav online game of all time...http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

XBOX_JEDI
Jun 18, 2002, 10:40 PM
HEHE I should go all the way to japan just to get the game free but then i couldn't read the words..Any way im still getting it!!!!



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Wewt
Jun 18, 2002, 10:51 PM
On 2002-06-18 20:40, XBOX_JEDI wrote:
HEHE I should go all the way to japan just to get the game free but then i couldn't read the words..Any way im still getting it!!!!

I'll save you the trouble and tell you of the mysterious legends that are Import gaming stores.

BioFan
Jun 18, 2002, 10:51 PM
On 2002-06-18 20:40, XBOX_JEDI wrote:
HEHE I should go all the way to japan just to get the game free but then i couldn't read the words..Any way im still getting it!!!!



<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: XBOX_JEDI on 2002-06-18 20:40 ]</font>



it probably will have the language options like DC's...so you can change the language to English in Japanese version...but you need to mod your Xbox to play import games, and also in Japan Xbox Live costs more expensive than Xbox live in US...but not that much...and they will come at the same time...http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif
unlike the GCN version...I would buy the import if I have a GCN...2 months wait is damn too long...can't handle it...main reason I got back to ver.2...saw too much eps 1 & 2 and can't stand it, so renew HL and go online...http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

BioFan
Jun 18, 2002, 11:43 PM
something I notice from the video...we all know the Xbox version will have hud like GCN's...the hp,tp menus are the same as GCN's....the buttons are same as DC's but GCN style...
but anyway here is something new I noticed from the video...remember in GCN version, if you die, you won't drop your weapon and meseta...this has been implemented in the XBox version...the MS guy in the video died, he was laughed by the audience, he said that he is a "new" player...and I noticed that while his character, Fonewearl, was using a magical wand, it didn't drop when he died...he might have some meseta too, but nothing dropped when he died...so we know two things similar to GCn...I wish Xbox version is eps 1 & 2...unless eps2 is exclusive to GCN, which might be, we will get eps 2 afterall...but anyway, I won't speculate, but at least we know XBox's ver will have these two new features found in GCN ver...http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

Mag_Launcher
Jun 18, 2002, 11:59 PM
There is one word to describe some of the people who post in this topic:
Starts with an F, ends with a Y, figure it out and call me in the morning. (No calling.)

WEBSTER
Jun 19, 2002, 02:18 AM
On 2002-06-18 21:59, Mag_Launcher wrote:
There is one word to describe some of the people who post in this topic:
Starts with an F, ends with a Y, figure it out and call me in the morning. (No calling.)



now whats that suppose to mean, actually it starts with a F, and ends with a U......... and Bio nice notice on de item drop, and apparintly all that was getting showed off again was the voice chat, i think thats the only thing they kept talking about, and i see why, its like using a phone, i cant wait to see how i'll make my racast sound, like optomis prime. i also agree about using a keyboard to talk, it makes de cyber life much more easier to type something out and hit enter then it is to actually talk, i hope this is going to really cut down on de lame ass lobby blitsis of racist and derogitory comment that so readily fills de pso lobbies, cause u can't hide behind typed words, its more like real life. and sure alot of people on pso are shy,but once xbox live kicks in people are gonna have to face there fears and speak up, this is gonna be interesting, i can't wait. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

Nendaiki
Jun 19, 2002, 06:28 AM
I still don't see how you can be so optimistic. The voice chat is MS's idea, thus it's gonna be glitchy and there are going to be a lot of problems with people who shouldn't be talking. If Sega had really wanted to do this themselves on like the DC version, I wouldn't be so worried.

Wewt
Jun 19, 2002, 08:22 AM
On 2002-06-18 14:22, Nendaiki wrote:
Fanboy is thinking of a console or it's games as superior with blind faith. Everything I stated has documented fact in it so let me rephrase this.




On 2002-06-19 04:28, Nendaiki wrote:
I still don't see how you can be so optimistic. The voice chat is MS's idea, thus it's gonna be glitchy and there are going to be a lot of problems with people who shouldn't be talking. If Sega had really wanted to do this themselves on like the DC version, I wouldn't be so worried.



Anyone else see "Blind faith" here?

BioFan
Jun 19, 2002, 02:03 PM
now whats that suppose to mean, actually it starts with a F, and ends with a U......... and Bio nice notice on de item drop, and apparintly all that was getting showed off again was the voice chat, i think thats the only thing they kept talking about, and i see why, its like using a phone, i cant wait to see how i'll make my racast sound, like optomis prime. i also agree about using a keyboard to talk, it makes de cyber life much more easier to type something out and hit enter then it is to actually talk, i hope this is going to really cut down on de lame ass lobby blitsis of racist and derogitory comment that so readily fills de pso lobbies, cause u can't hide behind typed words, its more like real life. and sure alot of people on pso are shy,but once xbox live kicks in people are gonna have to face there fears and speak up, this is gonna be interesting, i can't wait. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif



yes, at the moment it seems that Sonic Team wants to show off XBox's PSO voice comm more than anything else at the moment..And at the end of the movie, Yuji Naka said they will do their best for the Xbox ver...http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif
I can't wait to see how it will turn out...I heard that the keyboard function won't be all gone...there may not be a first party keyboard and mouse, but a third party may release one...I think I heard this from a Japanese gamer, he said PSO Xbox will still have the keyboard function...I am not really sure, I doubt it, but it wouldn't hurt to release a keyboard too...http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

XBOX_JEDI
Jun 19, 2002, 07:41 PM
The Xbox has an in game keyboard feature which really sucks ass but i like talking.. i think i will make my self sound like vader but i will speak like yoda..

Wren
Jun 19, 2002, 08:31 PM
that would suck if you could change your voice...you would have 8 year olds pretending to be 18 and cybering with 40 year old men pretending to be 16...i hope you have to use your real voice..no matter how it sounds

XBOX_JEDI
Jun 19, 2002, 09:29 PM
well if u wanna put it in the worst case senario sure its bad but it could be the cheapest long distance service ever!! ON A SERIOUS NOTE the mic does have it pros and cons but its better then putting the controller and typing help when u can just scream it like a mad man

faceless
Jun 20, 2002, 12:46 AM
but anyway here is something new I noticed from the video...remember in GCN version, if you die, you won't drop your weapon and meseta...this has been implemented in the XBox version...the MS guy in the video died, he was laughed by the audience, he said that he is a "new" player...and I noticed that while his character, Fonewearl, was using a magical wand, it didn't drop when he died...he might have some meseta too, but nothing dropped when he died...

more evidence pointing to it not being v2...

Greg
Jun 20, 2002, 01:22 AM
On 2002-06-18 14:22, Nendaiki wrote:
Fanboy is thinking of a console or it's games as superior with blind faith. Everything I stated has documented fact in it so let me rephrase this.
#1- Voice chat is cool in it's ease, but it destroys the ease of communication with people who speak another language. Also destroys communication for mute people.
#2- It's long been well known Yugi Naka doesn't like XBox, and he's made a number of comments that have made it clear the XBox version wasn't too special. I can't back these up all too well without proof, but you could find them all on IGN somewhere anyway.
#3- XBox has superiority in many ways, but it has it's crap too. Just like GCN. This game is one in which it's pretty clear with research that the GCN version is the better buy.
#4- I AM saying this as a friend trying to help people make good decisions. I am offering facts so that your choices will be the right ones. How DARE you try and decide what I am. When one offers facts and his comments are disected and studied by one to put that person down, one must question the meaning of fanboy and who the fanboy really is.



Fanboys are so 133t

Sedric
Jun 20, 2002, 01:39 AM
Can we stop bashing XBox?? Please???

I'm getting GC version, but this is way out of hand. You fanboys are giving bad names to GC owners. Who cares if it's ver 2 port? It's all about having fun, isn't it???

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there an announcement in the past from Yuji Naka himself that ST will work on PSO2 (not ver.2 nor Ep.2; the SEQUEL 2) for XBox after XBox PSO launch? If I remember correctly, there wasn't any info about GCN PSO2..... And if it is true, let me tell ya, "there is the catch."

BioFan
Jun 20, 2002, 01:49 AM
On 2002-06-19 22:46, faceless wrote:

but anyway here is something new I noticed from the video...remember in GCN version, if you die, you won't drop your weapon and meseta...this has been implemented in the XBox version...the MS guy in the video died, he was laughed by the audience, he said that he is a "new" player...and I noticed that while his character, Fonewearl, was using a magical wand, it didn't drop when he died...he might have some meseta too, but nothing dropped when he died...

more evidence pointing to it not being v2...




well actually the only reason Xbox won't get eps 2 is if eps 2 content is GCN exclusive...in the video it said that it is exclusive to GCN...but then again it can be considered exclusive since GCN is the only version with eps2 at the moment...But I wouldn't get my hope up...I will be content with just eps 1...But I really want eps2 since I won't get GCN...But if I were a Microsoft guy, I wouldn't want ST just to give us a ver.2...Microsoft needs market in Japan, and they are betting with XBox live AND PSO this year...they are including PSO for free, yes it is free but you need something attractive for them to get that free game...hey in the Xbox live list coming this year, there isn't anything that interest Xbox gamers besides PSO...they do have 48 games coming for Xbox live, but nothing major coming this year, most of them are next year...the only game coming this year that will interest Japanese players is only PSO at the moment...name me one other game??Tekki online, spikeout extreme, that tecmo online title, namco online title, konami online title, all are coming next year...This year it is only PSO, it is included in XBox live starter kit...it is free, but if it is just a ver.2, then no one will be interested enough to get it as well...you need something to get a large user base, and they choose PSO cos they don't care about UC or Ghost recon or those american games...including PSO for free is a good strategy but then again a ver.2 is most likely not enough to make people get XBox live...Is it just me or no one think this way when they said "it's free, so it's ver.2"
If Microsoft is in the same page as me, then there is another reason it won't be just a ver.2...But then I am just an Xbox owner who just dream of something, but tell me honestly, doesn't it make sense??
If you are doing poorly in Japan, and you need a large user base....Xbox live is considered the true Xbox launch in Japan...So many people are betting for XBox success on Xbox live...what will you do??
include the best selling console game of all time for free...yes!!they did that...but on the other hand, know that another system is getting a much upgraded version 2 months earlier and the same game has been released in Japan for over a year...so will you not care and give the same game and just put in voice comm??and people said that later they will give another version...it just not the way successful business work...Sony knows this best, get the market early, and take as much as you can...by offering a well known game is great offer, but you need something else to make people attracted to the whole offer...XBox live itself is not free...I believe Xbox will not get just a ver.2...but then it is just me.
Yes I am an XBox owner...yes I love PSO, yes I do like my Xbox, content with it...yes I want something more than just ver.2...yes you can say I am an Xbox fanboy...but I do not bash GCN in anyway, in fact I think it is great system, hey that system is getting two of my all time favourite games, RE series and PSO and probably SOnic will be in that system exclusively...VF Quest announced for it...Hell who doesn't love GCN..I do...But I bought Xbox just for one reason and one reason only...Panzer Dragoon Orta, nothing, and I mean nothing is better than Panzer Dragoon...for me, that is the game to own...http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif....I do love my Xbox, not because of it's hardware, but it's games...getting some of my favourite Sega games, PDO, Spikeout...sweet sweet game...http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif...of all three system PS2 is one that interest me least, cos not much games, beside Shinobi and DMC2...You can call me a fanboy, I am a Sega fanboy...I love sega games, I don't love systems, I love games...http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif
I am not saying as an Xbox fanboy...neither a Xbox hater...think business here people...think common sense...if you are Microsoft, you want to take over Japanese market...and you are launching something as big as Xbox itself, maybe even much bigger...something that would change XBox market in Japan...what will you do??
And for me the answer is give a special offer, give something great to attract consumers, something to capture as much market as possible...since this is online, what is the single one game that is really damn successful??Definitely PSO...but I wouldn't give something a year old game...something new and something interesting...ver.2 is not the answer in this question...if Microsoft just release a ver.2 then no wonder they did so bad in Japan right now...free is just a business strategy, but a crappy free game won't make anyone get the thing...I wouldn't get Xbox live in US just for the crappy revolt...but then again if Microsoft only including revolt in US, then anything can happen...if it is a ver.2 then they will always lose to PS2...

BioFan
Jun 20, 2002, 02:02 AM
On 2002-06-19 23:39, Sedric wrote:
Can we stop bashing XBox?? Please???

I'm getting GC version, but this is way out of hand. You fanboys are giving bad names to GC owners. Who cares if it's ver 2 port? It's all about having fun, isn't it???

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there an announcement in the past from Yuji Naka himself that ST will work on PSO2 (not ver.2 nor Ep.2; the SEQUEL 2) for XBox after XBox PSO launch? If I remember correctly, there wasn't any info about GCN PSO2..... And if it is true, let me tell ya, "there is the catch."



it's just a rumour...and Yuji naka said himself, there won't be a true sequel to PSO anytime soon...it takes time to make a true sequel...Even if there is such a game plan...like I said in my previous post...if you are microsoft, would you get something that is a year old??then you don't care for your consumers, then you shouldn't be in this business...we don't know what microsoft wants...like Yuji Naka said, it all depends on Microsoft, the more time they give them to make PSO, the more extra they will add to XBox version...but we all know XBox version won't have much time...it will be inferior to GCN in terms of extras...But I highly doubt it will just be a ver.2...if so then neither Microsoft nor Sonic Team cares for their fans...especially SOnic Team...Xbox doesn't sell well all over the world, but most of XBox gamers are Sega hardcore, and I mean HARDCORE gamers...I am one of them...and I know a lot of Japanese are, cos I know them...http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif...they wouldn't let them down...And to think in business way, not fanboy or haters point of view, it just doesn't make sense to just give a ver.2 even if it is free...is it just me or doesn't it make sense??
I am not bashing anyone...Actually the only one I am bashing is Microsoft...if they will just give us ver.2 then I am calling them stupid and shouldn't be in the gaming industry and I will say this, no chance in hell they will take over Sony...one word we should all learn in gaming business, exclusive content/game...they should know that...and I believe Nintendo may get eps2 exclusively...
It may just be a ver.2 but there should be something other than voice comm...I highly doubt it's ver.2 with voice comm...but then again no one knows for now...and I hate to debate this point to all of you, because none of us is correct...even if I said something it maynot be true...we will know the true answer one day...but for one, no one knows the truth.....but of course, as an Xbox owner, who doesn't want something extra??It's just human nature...But I am in no way bashing GCN's version...like I said again and again...I would get a GCN right now if I have money...Man, I love PSO and RE, there is no other reason I wouldn't get GCN actually...I want it so badly but I just have no money at the moment...but to those who doesn't have XBox, please don't bash our opinion, you have yours, say, but don't sound like a child and say something stupid...I respect your opinion, you are entitled to your opinion...say whatever you want...but I am sure all of you are mature enough to know what is nice to say and what is not...right??you are just making fool of yourself...

Sedric
Jun 20, 2002, 02:22 AM
It was just a rumor? I see. Okay....

Anyway, I sincerely hope XBox players get equal amount of fun as GC players from PSO when it comes out for both system. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

Too bad MS chose closed server so no cross platform play! I was actually looking forward to it.... http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif



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BioFan
Jun 20, 2002, 03:11 AM
yes but definitely ST will start work on PSO2 someday...http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

yes, I was looking forward to playing against GCN players too...damn Microsoft have to make it close network...

rena-ko
Jun 20, 2002, 07:44 AM
yes, that closed network-thing is crap... it splits the pso-comunity into several pieces... but maybe that has also a good point...
but since i dont have the money to buy more than one console per console-generation, i'll have to make a decision: and it is cube for me, because its the other games besides pso that count... its frustrating not to be able to play FF X/XI or jetsetradio future but that cant be helped, until one of my rich relatives dies ^_^;;

ah, by the way, what about swearing on voicechat? they wont be able to filter that - and imagine 4 ppl screaming at each other... you really have to behave yourself and find the right ppl to play with (but thats the same with every other pso...)
i think voicechat will work in 2-player-games, but well, it still has to prove itself...

BioFan
Jun 20, 2002, 01:18 PM
ah, by the way, what about swearing on voicechat? they wont be able to filter that - and imagine 4 ppl screaming at each other... you really have to behave yourself and find the right ppl to play with (but thats the same with every other pso...)
i think voicechat will work in 2-player-games, but well, it still has to prove itself...



you can mute those who you don't wish to hear...http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif...if not my ears will bleed and definitely choose GCN version, but yeah, they couldn't censor what we said...that is impossible...or is it??

Greg
Jun 20, 2002, 01:41 PM
Naka indeed said that after the xbox live would launch he would begin work on the sequal to PSO. Go search some gaming sites, I'm sure you'll find it.

MarkXIII
Jun 20, 2002, 01:50 PM
Ah, but he never mentioned it was for Xbox.

gamefreak__
Jun 20, 2002, 09:38 PM
ive posted this in most Xbox PSO related topics just because its true by my thinking:



have u ever thought that Sonic Team will use whats there?????? Like most other developers of online games for the Xbox so far have said: For Xbox Live u will be able to download *Additional Content* to ur game for the all included Live setup package. Thats a true hint that even tho the Xbox PSO could be V.2 all they have to do is leave a hook like DOA3 and add the GC features later. Come on folks i have DOA3 and it still kicks a** after the booster disc came out. And probally like DOA3 we had to beg for the first booster...................... So all we have to do is beg for the Keyboaed support and whaddaya know a new download appears when Xbox Live Boots up. And its all thanks to Microsoft to be smart enough to put a HDD in the xbox




Im sorry if i sound like a fanyboy but im not. i own all systems and heck if sonic team goes crazy and makes a PS2 version ill consider. But ive been a fan since it was annouced 2 years ago(or whenever it was annouced) and i planned on buying and PSO that ever came out since. Now i will see what u ppl have to say and ill just sit back and read it all.

XBOX_JEDI
Jun 20, 2002, 10:14 PM
On 2002-06-19 23:39, Sedric wrote:
Can we stop bashing XBox?? Please???

I'm getting GC version, but this is way out of hand. You fanboys are giving bad names to GC owners. Who cares if it's ver 2 port? It's all about having fun, isn't it???

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there an announcement in the past from Yuji Naka himself that ST will work on PSO2 (not ver.2 nor Ep.2; the SEQUEL 2) for XBox after XBox PSO launch? If I remember correctly, there wasn't any info about GCN PSO2..... And if it is true, let me tell ya, "there is the catch."


thats what i was trying to say... on my first thread

Rubesahl
Jun 20, 2002, 11:35 PM
Hey Guys I want to make something clear. About pople swearing and all, well I have a VEEEERY easy explanaton on how to stop that.

1. Play with someone and see if he's nice

2. He annoying you with swearing or doing annoying sounds, well guess what, there's the Xbox communicator you've been using and guess what's even better! Since it's a headset, You can take it off O_____o Wow amazing. Also only voice comes through the headset, so you're not going to hear it if you take it off.

3. Either tell the person to stop it if not then use word select after you took it off and see if you can still play normally, if not then just leave.

Anyways my point is that you can only hear voice in the headset O_o What about mute people, they can use the virtual keyboard, how do you think you're going to write your character's name??? Anyway there's the word select O__o That's just my 3 cents about the voice thing, I'm just saying the truth about that aspect in which people here thought is was no solution.

Very simple huh? http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif




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BioFan
Jun 20, 2002, 11:57 PM
On 2002-06-20 19:38, gamefreak__ wrote:
ive posted this in most Xbox PSO related topics just because its true by my thinking:



have u ever thought that Sonic Team will use whats there?????? Like most other developers of online games for the Xbox so far have said: For Xbox Live u will be able to download *Additional Content* to ur game for the all included Live setup package. Thats a true hint that even tho the Xbox PSO could be V.2 all they have to do is leave a hook like DOA3 and add the GC features later. Come on folks i have DOA3 and it still kicks a** after the booster disc came out. And probally like DOA3 we had to beg for the first booster...................... So all we have to do is beg for the Keyboaed support and whaddaya know a new download appears when Xbox Live Boots up. And its all thanks to Microsoft to be smart enough to put a HDD in the xbox




Im sorry if i sound like a fanyboy but im not. i own all systems and heck if sonic team goes crazy and makes a PS2 version ill consider. But ive been a fan since it was annouced 2 years ago(or whenever it was annouced) and i planned on buying and PSO that ever came out since. Now i will see what u ppl have to say and ill just sit back and read it all.



I have to agree, until now I am still amazed how they can just put a booster disc and added some extras to that game...it's a first for a console game, and they did that perfectly...I was amazed till now...ST could do that, and a friend of mine who went to E3 said Sega and Microsoft are planning such kind of download for XBox PSO...and it makes sense if they choose to add this feature to PSO....how about downloading new costumes for your characters??new weapons??new boss, new enemies, anything is possible...and of course new stages...eps2 could be available through download if they didn't have the time to put all those in on time by Xbox live launch in Japan...all is possible but in the end it is ST and Microsoft decision what they want to include in the game, and none of us knows about that...
Yes probably Sonic Team will start on PSO2 once Xbox version is released...but I also heard an interview with Yuji Naka, PSO will definitely be out one day...but not anytime soon...he planned on some downloable quests and stuff for PSO first before a true sequel come out...They also have a new Sonic Adventure on development right now...But PSO2 will definitely be out one day and if PSO Xbox do really well, it will definitely be on XBox as well(I said as well, not exclusive, definitely multiplatform, heck maybe even the PS2)...but I am pretty sure the next sequel will make use of XBox's capabilities...but for the PSO coming this fall, none of us knows what to expect...wait for more news, a few more months guys...a few more months...should have more news coming after GCN version is released...Or at least on fall TGS...But anyway, I am looking forward to Xbox PSO more than PSO sequel, cos I know it is definitely coming...PSO sequel will come one day, I don't know about XBox version...it all depends on how well XBox do at that time...but now it is PSO Xbox that i am looking forward too...actually GCN version too...I love PSO since the day I bought ver.1 2 years ago...still love it now...still playing it on ver.2 almost everyday...love it...I love PSO so much, I just love it...http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

MetalOmega
Jun 21, 2002, 01:38 AM
god what are you people thinking?!

1.Voice Chat=Lag,little kid running around holding down the chat button screaming,people cursing, people just not shutting up to annoy others,not being able to talk to japense people

2. There is NO keyboard planned for the xbox

3.The game looks horrible, i know its pso but playing ver 2 over again just with voice chat is insane to me

4.ya some of the screens have the same as the gc menu's but iam 99% sure it is not ep 1 and ep 2,its still a working title and like the one guy said before,naka really dosnt care for the xbox version that much

5.It aint gonna come out for a LONG time lol

6.Naka put ALOT of work and faught for us alot with the subject of the modem and the bba,he made this game freaking awsome (GAMECUBE VERSION)

NOTE:These are my opinions based on facts and me being sane,i dont mean to offend or start fights here thats just me saying my two cents Lol ^__^



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WEBSTER
Jun 21, 2002, 05:16 AM
On 2002-06-20 23:38, MetalOmega wrote:
god what are you people thinking?!

1.Voice Chat=Lag,little kid running around holding down the chat button screaming,people cursing, people just not shutting up to annoy others,not being able to talk to japense people



um lets see, Voice Chat=Lag, wow how did you know, are you a beta tester, testing out before it is even out, you are so lucky, but if you are, didn't you see de little mute thingy to block out all those load kids ramblings......ahhh lets see....who in de lobby dont i like to listen to...... i guess i could just mute them, but i'm sure you will figure it out since you must be playing it right now....... so you where also saying when you typed on your magical american DC keyboard, people from every country including japs could understand what you are typing, wow you are skilled, i my self had to use de word selection menu, but i'm sure you will figure out how to use this function as well since you have it right in front of you.




On 2002-06-20 23:38, MetalOmega wrote:
2. There is NO keyboard planned for the xbox


this must be true, since every manufacturer has to go throu you to get somethin made. oh well i guess i will at least have try to learn how to talk in another language, should be fun... i mean, damn xbox live.




On 2002-06-20 23:38, MetalOmega wrote:
3.The game looks horrible, i know its pso but playing ver 2 over again just with voice chat is insane to me


again you are so lucky you got the game, before ST, even had a chance to finish it, golley you are one lucky beta tester.



On 2002-06-20 23:38, MetalOmega wrote:
4.ya some of the screens have the same as the gc menu's but iam 99% sure it is not ep 1 and ep 2,its still a working title and like the one guy said before,naka really dosnt care for the xbox version that much


holey moley, first you are like de first beta tester,using de voice chat cause you said it = lag then every manufacturer has to tell you all there secrets...... and now you know de man himself, well next time you see him, tell naka what up, after you finish testing out pso for xbox, he is waiting for your review of it, so he can get started on de 60 % that is not yet finished....so don't give him such a bad review, since you are only 99% sure. i mean he did tell you he doesn't like xbox, an i do wish to to see it released.



On 2002-06-20 23:38, MetalOmega wrote
5.It aint gonna come out for a LONG time lol


lmao, ya i know what you mean, gee its coming out this year, the nerve, and we only got like 5 months left, damn thats a long time.



On 2002-06-20 23:38, MetalOmega wrote:
6.Naka put ALOT of work and faught for us alot with the subject of the modem and the bba,he made this game freaking awsome


tum now im lost, i thought we where talking pso for the box , and since you had a copy you said de game looks horrible.... now its freakin awesome. now i see why out of de entire planet naka chose you to be de first one to have a copy and beta test pso on xboxlive, you are a smart well informed lad. and thank god that he fought for use, i heard you designed some of de campaign ads to push the online play, cause imagine no O in PSO, that would defeat de whole purpose of xboxlive.



On 2002-06-20 23:38, MetalOmega wrote:
NOTE:These are my opinions based on facts and me being sane,i dont mean to offend or start fights here thats just me saying my two cents Lol ^__^


take your 2 cents back and buy a clue you redundent ill informed moron, cause nothing you said was fact and it is your insane opinion, and i do mean to offend Lol ?__?



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Rubesahl
Jun 21, 2002, 09:13 AM
"Voice chat = Lag"
I only want to inform you nothing else, well, there are ways to prevent that. First you're going to be on a Broaband connection, so that's an advantage for that option. Other one is that when voice is sent, it is compressed and when it gets to your team mate it'll decompress. Since Xbox Live is on a closed server, which has been prepared thoroughly, plus everyone who plays it will be on broadband, it's not that hard to imagine voice chat in a game see?

Anyways, not referring to you in soecific, I don't think you can just judge a whole game because of something you don't like and most of all, it's not even out, or should I say, not have been officially announced. I really don't see the point of making such topics about assumptions but I think it's inevitable lol.







really thou

MetalOmega
Jun 21, 2002, 12:20 PM
webster you are the most stupid person ive eve had the chance to meet in my life dumbass. i never said i had the game and judging from the vidoes and junk its just pso ver 2 all over agian. And with the voic chat mr know it all,most online games like Counter-Strike have a "voice chat" feature,where you hold the key down and just say whatever u want,and it just comes out uffled and sounding like your 4 years old with a cold. If you play CS youll see people holding down the key having music playing,or just constatly yelling crap out all over the place and not shuting up.Voice Chat is the most stupid thing in the world because of that,the idea is grand but whats gonna stop the idiotic morons (webster) from shutting up and just playing

MetalOmega
Jun 21, 2002, 12:21 PM
and where is this info from? i dont seen naka saying anything about it sides the fact thre is voice chat

MetalOmega
Jun 21, 2002, 12:22 PM
and i ment for the GC version he put all that work into it and faught with nintendo over the subject of the modems and bba cause with nintendos way,it was gonna be offline at the start

Wren
Jun 21, 2002, 12:51 PM
good god metal..go take your morphine shot and come back calm and edit those post you made..cuz they do make you sound stupid

Rubesahl
Jun 21, 2002, 01:19 PM
You have a point Metal, all you're saying is true but that doesn't mean he won't make the Xbox version less good or anything like it. I thank Naka-san for convincing Nintendo about the modem thing because GC owners will be able to play PSO online this year. As for Xbox Yuji Naka said he was going to work well on it and he said the Xbox Live service was a very good one. You can see it on http://www.xbox.com I had a hard time reading the subtitles since I'm on a 56k but go and see it if you don't believe me, just go to the E3 section and click on Xbox Press Release. I really don't think Naka will make a version of PSO bad for the Xbox in any way. Maybe it'll be ver.2 at first, maybe you can download stages, maybe there'll be a booster disc, there are many possibilities that are still unsure. As for the voice thing, it's true what you said, that would be really annoying but people still don't think that IT IS an addition! There will still be word select and the virtual keyboard if you don't want to use the voice chat. But it is NOT the bad error you make it seem, it has it's negatives but are solved just as easy as taking off the headset and just don't use it and leave it there. Who says you have to obligatory put them on to play?! What they going to make a sensor system to see if you have them on or something? See it as an addition and there. I admmit that there seems to be no keyboard but they haven't said THERE WILL BE NO KEYBOARD and correct me if I'm wrong. If there isn't then I don't mind using word select and the virtual keyboard at all. Like I said, how do you think you're going to write your character's name? they will keep it I just know they will, that's why it'll be fair for people who are deaf or can't speak. If you don't like it either way then just don't get it and stop insulting, screaming, babbling, bashing everyone/everything just stop it and move to another forum like I do. I post in this one because I want to talk about the version with other people who are looking forward to it, if you're not then please keep your comments to yourself because we've had enough of those and we should stop fighting about it.

Now for my comments on Xbox Version. I wonder how we're going to do the lobby actions ? Maybe you select them in a menu? Also, I hears Bio Fan mention that the characters look bigger. Does that mean they have more detail? That'd be cool. I wonder if the GC ones will be more detailed too, just a little inprovement would be great and wouldn't hurt. Also, they should make more viewable accessories, kinda like the rings in ver.2 . Necklace would be nice http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif haha~

BioFan
Jun 21, 2002, 02:05 PM
Now for my comments on Xbox Version. I wonder how we're going to do the lobby actions ? Maybe you select them in a menu? Also, I hears Bio Fan mention that the characters look bigger. Does that mean they have more detail? That'd be cool. I wonder if the GC ones will be more detailed too, just a little inprovement would be great and wouldn't hurt. Also, they should make more viewable accessories, kinda like the rings in ver.2 . Necklace would be nice http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif haha~



they are bigger as in camera is closer to the character, from the video I posted in the first page...the GCN version has more detail btw...I think higher poly than the DC ver...But GCN version is definitely looking better than DC's...but just a little improvement...probably you won't really see....download video from Ah King's website...one video was showing the DC version then the GCN version...and the character seems to be a little better...not sure about the XBox version since right at the moment, it is only 40% done and nothing is really known about it...most info on it are taboo...Can't even post a video on Sonic Team's own forum...It got deleted by Sonic Team...And someone told me that news on Xbox's PSO are taboo at the moment...Something must be up...
But one thing for sure, Yuji Naka is trying their best on Xbox PSO as well...he said so at the end of Xbox Summer Conference...And it is not like he is from Acclaim or something...damn, he is YUJI NAKA!!!Whatever he do, he will do his best...that is why I like him...http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif
But anyway if you haven't seen the video, there are two videos on Xbox Summer Conference actually, I only posted one of them...I am not sure if anyone really want to see the second video...it is not mainly on PSO though but a summary of the whole Xbox summer conference...but at the end of Yuji Naka speech on PSO, he said he will do his best on XBox version...And I know that he is the kind of developer who will do his best when he is given a task...So I have some faith in Naka...and I know he won't let his fans down...it's YUji Naka we are talking here...And people, it's PSO...Metal how dare you said it's piece of crap??Even if Xbox gets just ver.2, I think it is still one of the best games for Xbox, probably is the best online action RPG for Xbox...It's a very damn good game even if XBox version only gets ver.1...cos the game itself is really that damn good...no matter where it is...And also MEtal, if you haven't seen the video, please take sometime to see it...they clearly show how the voice chat works...and it sounds great...just like talking on the phone...Nothing like AFO's chat function...it wasn't that great...no muffling or whatever...go see it before you make judgements....and probably we can't say anything of Xbox version right now...if it is already confirmed as a ver.2, you can bash all you wants although you will only make yourself sound so stupid doing so...and probably no one cares for what you think and probably some of us will get a good laugh at some of your posts here...I get a good laugh everytime I go to an Xbox PSO thread...it's funny how someone can bash the Xbox version so much, it's funny how they let their hatred out...funny in a stupid way...I believe not one of the xbox fanboy even said anything about it being much better than GCn version...but somehow for some reason it is always the talks of some people here...it's really interesting...
but anyway enough of those craps...Well Xbox won't have keyboard, probably xbox version won't have all the cool lobby actions the GCN has...but then again, I wonder myself if XBox has the same kind of lobby GCN and DC version has...they may just be from Xbox LIve lobby then we go striaght to pioneer 2...I hate Microsoft for doing some of the things they decide to do with Xbox live...This is one of the things...no keyboard really suck...at least we should have been given a choice or voice chat or keyboard...the other, the close network...making games like PSO won't have the great features like it's lobby...wonder if they will have the lobby in XBox version...Actually I even wonder if Microsoft really care for their costumer, probably they just want something out by Xbox live and give us ver.2..and they won't care for that...hey, they give us that crappy revolt game...so I highly doubt if Microsoft really care for their fans...we will know this once we know more info on PSO...I hope Microsoft won't disappoint us...Like Yuji Naka said, it all depends on what Microsoft wants...and the time they give SOnic Team on the project...But anyway I know Yuji Naka will do their best on XBox version as well...They are not Acclaim or some crappy developers...I don't trust Microsoft as much but I do trust Yuji Naka and Sonic Team...
But anyway I don't expect anything on Xbox version...But I will get Xbox PSO since I am getting XBox live for a year....$50/year is not bad...http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif...might as well get PSO as well since I am paying....We get SpikeOut this year...so no one is complaining..I know I don't....http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

Rubesahl
Jun 21, 2002, 08:38 PM
I agree 100% Bio Fan. Also, about MS not caring for their customers, well, when you think about it since it's a US company, they see PSO more like just another game in their online launch and will treat it as such. Remember that, Gamecube will only have PSO to support their online plans for now as it will be the only game supporting it this year so they'll give it as much hype as possible. It's inevitable for Yuki Naka to like the GC more, it is a japanese system after all but no he won't let that opinion let him make a version that's worst.

BioFan
Jun 21, 2002, 11:53 PM
I think Microsoft has not really been long enough in the gaming industry...they don't think like one...they are not nintendo or sega...even sony, up till now the reason I don't like sony is they are not a true gaming company...I hate all this entertainment system bullcrap, all I want is just a gaming console...Sega offered me that with Saturn and DC...I love them...I like GCN too...I love Sega and Nintendo...
I am not sure about Microsoft, at E3 they said they are a gaming company...but so far, actually I don't really see it that way...They may have push themselve as a gaming company...they may try to be one, but so far they don't act like one...They are more like Sony...GCN games scream quality, not quantity, like PS2...Xbox needs some quality games and quatity too...But I don't mean neither PS2 nor Xbox has quality games...they do...but they care more about making money...
I don't know what Microsoft has for us...I wouldn't buy Xbox if it is not for Sega...I like GCN...I believe Yuji Naka prefer GCN not because it is Japanese, but it is built as a gaming console, but those entertainment bullshit...And what's next for PS series??biotech??WTF??The network PS3 thing makes me wanna puke...just stick to basic games...I don't want to spend so much on craps...I buy game consoles for games, not DVD or all those bullcraps...I am not sure what Yuji Naka thinks but I know YUji Naka hate PS2...probably same reason as me??:)
By the way, I don't mean I hate the systems, they are great, I just don't like Sony as a company...and probably Microsoft too...but PS2, GCn and Xbox all are great systems, and they do have great games...http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif and PSO for Xbox is one of those, even if it is a ver.2...it is still a much better game than revolt, or shrek or any crappy titles Xbox has right now...http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

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WEBSTER
Jun 22, 2002, 06:55 AM
On 2002-06-21 10:20, MetalOmega wrote:
webster you are the most stupid person ive eve had the chance to meet in my life dumbass. i never said i had the game and judging from the vidoes and junk its just pso ver 2 all over agian.


again this must be your opinion based on facts, i'm sorry have we met..... oh thats right, you where that kid i saw being dropped repeatedly on there head by your nanny in the park de other day, how ya doing..... need an ice pack......... oh you mean you are not a beta tester of pso, ......really i thought you had de game the way you where talking,well gee golly thats a shock ....... cause i thought you was talking fact here, so now you are just judging on junk now, only from what you have seen from de few snipits of video, well then it has got to be that way, cause that is all you have seen, right.



On 2002-06-21 10:20, MetalOmega wrote:
And with the voic chat mr know it all,most online games like Counter-Strike have a "voice chat" feature


really you mean a xbox live game actually has voice chat, well zowie isn't that like de coolest feature.



On 2002-06-21 10:20, MetalOmega wrote:
where you hold the key down and just say whatever u want,and it just comes out uffled and sounding like your 4 years old with a cold.


now you are beta testing another game, and you can actually say something through voice chat, well if that ain't like the end all of concepts. and hey if you want to sound like a 4 yr old that is your choice. i for one hope to sound like prime with my racast, at least in pso, i have no idea what voice options are in counter strike cause no official news on it has been released yet. but apparently you know, you are truly an informed person with that insider connection.



On 2002-06-21 10:20, MetalOmega wrote:
If you play CS youll see people holding down the key having music playing,or just constatly yelling crap out all over the place and not shuting up


now you can see into everyones house while they play cs with you, you can actually see them holding down de buttons, spooky........and no i have not played counter strike yet for de xbox, i am not as lucky as you, to be chosen as the first beta tester, i guess i will have to wait till it comes out, like the rest of humanity. and haven't you figured out how to use the mute feature yet. i thought with your vast knowledge you would have figured this out by now.



On 2002-06-21 10:20, MetalOmega wrote:
Voice Chat is the most stupid thing in the world because of that,the idea is grand but whats gonna stop the idiotic morons (webster) from shutting up and just playing


its stupid cause you can't find the mute button yet? also i don't think i have played with you online yet, cause i know i don't have a character named idiotic moron also i don't have counter strike yet, i'm not as fortune-it as you. and if you don't like what idiotic moron is saying to you while you play counter strike you can mute them, i hope you learn how to use this function soon cause you are getting redundant. but if you want to find me on pso at least i'll be a big RAcast named Ryn OTOMO.



On 2002-06-21 10:21, MetalOmega wrote:
and where is this info from? i dont seen naka saying anything about it sides the fact thre is voice chat


i thought this info was from you, an opinion formulated from fact, right. and i am sure you will be the first one to to hear it from naka, considering you know everything before de general public does. i'm sure naka will come to your door step so you can see him and he will hand you pso2. i can't wait to hear what you say about that game, i'm sure you will be posting your facts on it real soon.



On 2002-06-21 10:22, MetalOmega wrote:
and i ment for the GC version he put all that work into it and faught with nintendo over the subject of the modems and bba cause with nintendos way,it was gonna be offline at the start


oh really, thanks for editing your post, so we all could better understand where you are truely coming from. ( sarcasm: notice i put that in so you can understand me better). i guess you wont have the pleasure of muting me on pso. man everyday i feel sorry for the cubers that are gonna get stuck with people like you, down right shame, i pity them.

dude do you know how de industry works, do you have a clue how the sales marketing team function, do you have any fathom how a businesses is run, from what you have posted, you have not one clue.it just isn't logical, for a company to release such awfull product and hope to make it. even if they did put 2 billion dollars into xbox live, do you think they would invest that, and then fallow it up by release of an out dated game, that is getting an earlier release with updates on a rival system, golly that would be de smartest move ever, since sega or microsoft don't care about there investment, right fact boy.

Wren
Jun 22, 2002, 10:07 AM
not trying to be on metal side..but i think he was talking bout counter strike for the PC (if you didn't know that..sorry if you did and were just making him look stupid)..and metal...you really need to up your morphine shot before you post a reply to webster...cuz you sound really dumb while doing it

Rubesahl
Jun 22, 2002, 10:42 AM
On 2002-06-21 18:38, Rubesahl wrote:
I agree 100% Bio Fan. Also, about MS not caring for their customers, well, when you think about it since it's a US company, they see PSO more like just another game in their online launch and will treat it as such. Remember that, Gamecube will only have PSO to support their online plans for now as it will be the only game supporting it this year so they'll give it as much hype as possible. It's inevitable for Yuki Naka to like the GC more, it is a japanese system after all but no he won't let that opinion let him make a version that's worst.



heh I don't like the Sony company either, because they have made a lot of errors and still everyone praises them. As fir Xbox I'm still in a wait and see attitude. Right now, I like them I guess, I like the system they've made, I don't like that they didn't make PSO cross-platform but I don't want to judge them because of that only. I currentlly have 6 games for it and I'm waiting for Ninja Gaiden, Panzer Dragoon Orta, Blinx, Kakuto Shojin, Ghost Recon, Unreal Championship and others. So I'm happy with it. In GC I have Rogue Squadron, Pikmin, Resident Evil (awesome >_<) and soon PSO. I like it too a lot. I like GC and Xbox because they will both have and have Sega games http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif As for PSO on Xbox I really hope they do their best. It wouldn't be fair to Xbox owners to hae a version less than GC owners. If it were announced that Xbox version would have 2 more stages than GC, the owners of GC would go crazy and in protest lol. It should be equal, not more, not less.

BioFan
Jun 22, 2002, 05:13 PM
heh I don't like the Sony company either, because they have made a lot of errors and still everyone praises them. As fir Xbox I'm still in a wait and see attitude. Right now, I like them I guess, I like the system they've made, I don't like that they didn't make PSO cross-platform but I don't want to judge them because of that only. I currentlly have 6 games for it and I'm waiting for Ninja Gaiden, Panzer Dragoon Orta, Blinx, Kakuto Shojin, Ghost Recon, Unreal Championship and others. So I'm happy with it. In GC I have Rogue Squadron, Pikmin, Resident Evil (awesome >_<) and soon PSO. I like it too a lot. I like GC and Xbox because they will both have and have Sega games http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif As for PSO on Xbox I really hope they do their best. It wouldn't be fair to Xbox owners to hae a version less than GC owners. If it were announced that Xbox version would have 2 more stages than GC, the owners of GC would go crazy and in protest lol. It should be equal, not more, not less.



I have to admit, Sony first party games are getting better...Tenchu was my favourite PS game...there are some nice games coming from SCEA for the PS2...But yes, in my eyes, Sony hardware has lots of faults...and they make lots of mistakes...When I bought my PS2, I wasn't really mean to use it, rather to sell it at Ebay, but I couldn't sell...lol...but anyway, I didn't have any games until a year later, used it mainly for DVD...but for GCN and XBox, I don't have GCN, but I played Pikmin, it was great...Super Monkey Ball, best GCN game...http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif....RE is a definite buy...it has a lot of good games in a short while...for XBox, at least for me, I am not a fps fan, so halo wasn't on my list...But if you are fps fan, it is the main reason to buy Xbox...but I was waiting for JSRF and Gunvalkyrie...I played the games I wanted to get when I bought my XBox...but of course, right now all three have great games...but I am anticipating more GCN and Xbox games...can't wait for PDO...http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif...I have 10 games for xbox alone this year and probably another 10 if I were to get GCN...so that's why I can't get GCN...I would spend double...http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif
Well anyway, my guess for Xbox PSO, if eps2 is not exclusive to GCN, ST will include eps2...but I doubt they will make any extra level or characters for Xbox...either only eps1 or both eps1 and 2...but not extra level or characters, but probably new features like downloadable options, for future downloads...downloadble quests and stuff...either it is eps 1 or both, I think at least it will have downloadable stuff for XBox PSO...I am not sure about it, I wish I know something, but the truth, I know nothing and I will have to wait for more news...but no matter what, I will definitely get PSO Xbox, even if it is a ver.1 with no extra...http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif
I will get XBox live for sure, getting ghost recon, raven shield, PSO, SpikeOut Extreme, probably Tekki Online if controller not that expensive, I know at least 4 games I will get for XBox Live, so it is worth it...and since I am getting Xbox live, PSO is a definite buy for me, even if it is just ver.1...but I hope MS and ST will care about us and not just give a 2 year old game...http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif
If Xbox version has more extras, GCN players will complain...and I think XBox player won't complain even if they just get a ver.2...I think...And probably more GCN players will mock it instead...we shall see...but I will be in content even if it is just ver.2...I am not expecting a better version of PSO...I am only expecting the same game I played 2 years ago and the game that I still love playing even now...http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif