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Kriz
Aug 8, 2004, 10:20 PM
I have 2 simple q´s:

1. Does the legit uns-jsword really have a kill count where u can see how many kills u got, and where is it???

2. why should a copied one doesn´t unseal????

thx

Quo
Aug 8, 2004, 10:22 PM
On 2004-08-08 20:20, Kriz wrote:
I have 2 simple q?s:

1. Does the legit uns-jsword really have a kill count where u can see how many kills u got, and where is it???

2. why should a copied one doesn?t unseal????

thx




Read Ketchup's Sticky. I believe he quotes Barubary explaining both of those questions.

Deuce
Aug 8, 2004, 10:24 PM
Since you are probably too dim to find it:

http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=84571&forum=7&0

Kriz
Aug 8, 2004, 10:32 PM
1. When you kill a monster with a Sealed J-Sword, other people in the team do not see the updated kill count. I recommend that, before giving or showing this item to another user, that you bank it then remove from bank.

-- hes talking about a kill count but i never saw a pic of it so does it exist or not,
plz no links just say it exists or not!
cause mine has no kill count

thx

Deuce
Aug 8, 2004, 10:33 PM
No. There is no visual kill counter. The count is saved with your character data. You have no way to see it.

Kriz
Aug 8, 2004, 10:39 PM
so ihave to try out if i got a real one or a duped one

http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

thx alot

Quo
Aug 8, 2004, 10:40 PM
On 2004-08-08 20:39, Kriz wrote:
so ihave to try out if i got a real one or a duped one

http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

thx alot



This is an easy way to tell. If you found it yourself, its real. If you got it online, its a fake. Hacks and Dupes of Hacks do not have the kill counter. Real swords and Dupes of real swords do.

Another way to make an educated guess is to look at the percents. What are they?

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Deuce
Aug 8, 2004, 10:40 PM
Make a skyly character and find one yourself. Yours is most likely (I'd say 97%) a dupe.

Deuce
Aug 8, 2004, 10:42 PM
That's what I just told him Quo. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

Kriz
Aug 8, 2004, 10:45 PM
why is there no pic online from a kill counter if it exists like u say????

% are 0/0/0/0

and my char is skyly too, how high are the chances of drop from gie gue?

Quo
Aug 8, 2004, 10:48 PM
On 2004-08-08 20:45, Kriz wrote:
why is there no pic online from a kill counter if it exists like u say????

% are 0/0/0/0

and my char is skyly too, how high are the chances of drop from gie gue?



Because the counter is in the Sword's code. You cannot see it. There would be no point in a screen shot.

Since your percents are awful, chances are that it's not a hack. Which means that you could probably unseal it.



On 2004-08-08 20:42, Deuce wrote:
That's what I just told him Quo. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif



You intercepted my post. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

Deuce
Aug 8, 2004, 10:49 PM
1/28,807...

Good Luck.

And the kill counter is NOT VISIBLE. It is in the games coding. You never get to see it. EVER.

Quo
Aug 8, 2004, 10:50 PM
On 2004-08-08 20:49, Deuce wrote:
1/28,807...

Good Luck.

And the kill counter is NOT VISIBLE. It is in the games coding. You never get to see it. EVER.



1/12,603.

Kriz
Aug 8, 2004, 10:50 PM
ok i try,

only 22,500 rappys left http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

thx alot, cya

Deuce
Aug 8, 2004, 10:52 PM
On 2004-08-08 20:50, Kriz wrote:
ok i try,

only 22,500 rappys left http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

thx alot, cya



Rappys? Good luck finding a J-Sword from a rappy! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif


EDIT: Is it only 12,000 whatever? I must be thinking of something else.


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Quo
Aug 8, 2004, 10:57 PM
On 2004-08-08 20:52, Deuce wrote:


On 2004-08-08 20:50, Kriz wrote:
ok i try,

only 22,500 rappys left http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

thx alot, cya



Rappys? Good luck finding a J-Sword from a rappy! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif


EDIT: Is it only 12,000 whatever? I must be thinking of something else.


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Most of the 11star drops are 1/28,808 from Tollaws and Del-Ds and stuff. When you get them from mini-bosses, the drop rate goes to 1/12,603 as a general principle. This means that if the J-Sword were pipable it's drop rate might be 1/22 http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif (since most of that stuff, Lavis and '75 agito for instance, have pipable drop rates of 1/22); but its not pipable, so it doesn' t matter.

He's probably trying to unseal his J-sword in Fake in Yellow.

Edit: Clarification

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Deuce
Aug 8, 2004, 10:59 PM
Actually, it would be 1/205. Sealed J-Sword is just as rare as Psycho Wand and Heaven Punisher.

Quo
Aug 8, 2004, 11:06 PM
On 2004-08-08 20:59, Deuce wrote:
Actually, it would be 1/205. Sealed J-Sword is just as rare as Psycho Wand and Heaven Punisher.



I suppose you're probably right. 11star items are sort of split 50/50 on that. Proabably, sonic team would give it the lower (1/205) rate, since it's such a nice weapon.

Edit: clarification again.

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Deuce
Aug 8, 2004, 11:08 PM
But then again. Lavis Cannon is 1/22 along with Syncestas. So I guess it could go either way.

Quo
Aug 8, 2004, 11:15 PM
On 2004-08-08 21:08, Deuce wrote:
But then again. Lavis Cannon is 1/22 along with Syncestas. So I guess it could go either way.



My theory is that Sonic team gave Syncesta and Lavis Cannon the easier rates, since to really make the weapon effective (without being a cheater http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/eviltongue.gif ) you need to get the lavis and then two syncestae. Thats 3(512*22) = 33,792 slimes/hildelts to get the double cannon. Agito can have the better rate, since its a piece of crap. Psycho Wand gets the harder drop rate since it kicks royal ass (50% TP cost reduction http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif ). The Heaven Punisher is the only exception: Shitty weapon, Shitty drop rate. Oh well.

Another instance where we need a "meh" smiley.

Deuce
Aug 8, 2004, 11:18 PM
On 2004-08-08 21:15, Quo wrote:

My theory is that Sonic team gave Syncesta and Lavis Cannon the easier rates, since to really make the weapon effective (without being a cheater http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/eviltongue.gif ) you need to get the lavis and then two syncestae. Thats 3(512*22) = 33,792 slimes/hildelts to get the double cannon. Agito can have the better rate, since its a piece of crap. Psycho Wand gets the harder drop rate since it kicks royal ass (50% TP cost reduction http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif ). The Heaven Punisher is the only exception: Shitty weapon, Shitty drop rate. Oh well.

Another instance where we need a "meh" smiley.



Couldn't agree more. ST just wanted to give us the illusion that it would be easy to get a legit Double Cannon and then they go and crush our dreams by making you need the weapon plus 2 other items. Yes, Heaven Punisher is a mystery. It's not that good and yet it is one of the hardest weapons to find. It's like the seciton ID cards. They are just used as bragging rights.

Dhylec
Aug 9, 2004, 05:47 AM
Kriz's questions'a are answered
look at item finding & ketchup's sticky for more info on the SJS

Quo & Deuce, you guys are way off topic