So is Falz still the final boss in ep 1 and 2?

[SERGEMACHINE]

Wouldn't he be at the end of Episode 1.
So who or what is the final boss of the GC ver now?

[FinalMasterM]

So far no one knows, but its most likely gonna be DF at the end of Ep2.

[Bahamut]

hey. maybe sonic team will through a twist and let mother brain be the final boss. (chokes0

[TeamPhalanx]

Since episode 2 takes places after you defeat Falz (or, so the story goes), odds are Dark Falz won't be the final boss. Then again, DF is an entity without form, so, after you defeat Falz in episode 1, and free Red Ring Rico, it could just find another, stronger, host body.

[Darrin]

It will probably someone in Pioneer 2 that transformed or something I think, like Principle Tyrell,RRR,Momo,ect... (im only guessing) http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif

[Javier_Von_Fenrir]

Hmm the Principle would be a nice Twist. I'd be real interesting if he was behind the whole mess fomr the begining.

Remember when you beat Ver.2 the lil scene where you see Red Ring Rico in what seems to be a stand off with the Principle?

[jonny-5]

is there stuff in the final version that no one has ever seen yet that is not in the trial? Like more levels and enemies?

[TeamPhalanx]

I think the trial is only something like 40% of the game...

I almost forgot about the government conspiracy thing... Would be interesting to see where the story goes.

[SERGEMACHINE]

Only 40%?!!
WOW!
I'm soo happy I'm importing,i can't wait to see what is hidden within the final ver. =D

[John_Doe_III]

It would be kind of weird of DF was the last boss they need to maybe replace him with *something else even though he has been in every Phantasy Star Online game.

[HeeroX]

I really doubt DF will be last boss of episode 2, depending on the last level you play. The last level you play isn't the sanctuary, so I really doubt DF is the last boss. I wouldn't be surprised if he were, but I wouldn't neccesarly count on it to.

[jonny-5]

40% ! Dang, so that means there is alot and alot of new stuff we haven't seen! woohoo! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif I hope thers lobby basketball as one of the side-games!

[RedFox]

> laughs at the idea of DF+Mome!!!

oh the pain Mome caused before... from normal to ult... he just got worse...

> Shudders...

[TeamPhalanx]

The odds that the final boss will be Falz are slim, since Falz seeks out the strongest host body; Red Ring Rico was the best host it could have had.

[RedFox]

i was surprised that ST kept DF for ult mode. imo they could have at least given DF a makeover or changed his fight routines. But in the tradition of phantasy star games, the idea of DF simply finding a new host does seem a nice idea... albeit not a very original one. but i would like to see a new challenge. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_evil.gif

[Sleet1]

Hey!! There is that fun in PSO that i had when i first bought ver 1 for DC! YEEAH!! I hope its a tiwst and that it is hard to beat. fun fun

[Greg]

I think the Trial is closer to 80% complete.
Seeing as though there are like 7/9 levels available (according to trial players). I have no Idea where you got 40% -_-;

[RuneLateralus]

Maybe they will do the same idea of PSIV and bring the Dark Entity as the Final Boss in Episode II.

If they do, they better keep its Angel form (the final form of it). The Dark Entity's design in that was cool as hell.

[shinokou]

can somone PLEASE point out where it says <link> that the trian is 40% complete? this would be helpful information. Also, the last boss should be a PS reference, but i realllly hope it isn't falz again... falz was kind of a side boss usually, even though he was in every game. Episode II should add PSO to the games that have a TRUE final boss. NO FALZ!!!

[trunkszero]

hmm bring back the last boss from the past PS series

[Crescent_Dragon]

Maybe a tiny bit of Falz wasn't locked away in Ep. 1 and he comes back in Ep. 2. Not strong enough to fight your character, he actually tries to possess you. Then you sorta fight him in your head. That would be kind of cool.

[RuneLateralus]

On 2002-06-23 14:20, trunkszero wrote:
hmm bring back the last boss from the past PS series



Umm... the last boss in all the PS games (except PSIV) was Dark Falz (the US versions of PS 2-4 just called him Dark Force).

[Greg]

On 2002-06-23 13:56, shinokou wrote:
can somone PLEASE point out where it says <link> that the trian is 40% complete? this would be helpful information.


There is no such link. Many people here treat speculation as fact.

[watashiwa]

On 2002-06-23 12:28, Greg wrote:
I think the Trial is closer to 80% complete.
Seeing as though there are like 7/9 levels available (according to trial players). I have no Idea where you got 40% -_-;




Greg. You cannot possibly say it's 80% complete just because of the levels.

The difficulty levels are missing, the final areas of each Episode, challenge mode stages (possibly new ones for Episode 2), battle mode stages (possibly new ones for Episode 2), missing boss monsters for VR areas in Episode 2, no offline quests for Episode 2 yet as well as online quests. So, I would think, 40% is pretty accurate as far as to how complete the game is. There's still a hell of alot to be done.

[DarthWufei]

Indeed wata. It's amazing how incomplete the game is.. and how great it already is. Just think abou thow awesome the full version will be. @_@

[SnAPPUrU-nyan-ko]

Kill some beast of nature - Griffon
Kill some mutated creature - tba
Kill some crazy robot - tba
Kill something eviiil
I think Dark Falz will wake up and come back for some more.

[Javier_Von_Fenrir]

On 2002-06-23 18:34, watashiwa wrote:


On 2002-06-23 12:28, Greg wrote:
I think the Trial is closer to 80% complete.
Seeing as though there are like 7/9 levels available (according to trial players). I have no Idea where you got 40% -_-;




Greg. You cannot possibly say it's 80% complete just because of the levels.

The difficulty levels are missing, the final areas of each Episode, challenge mode stages (possibly new ones for Episode 2), battle mode stages (possibly new ones for Episode 2), missing boss monsters for VR areas in Episode 2, no offline quests for Episode 2 yet as well as online quests. So, I would think, 40% is pretty accurate as far as to how complete the game is. There's still a hell of alot to be done.




Good work... you sure told him.

[Greg]

On 2002-06-23 23:44, Javier_Von_Fenrir wrote:


On 2002-06-23 18:34, watashiwa wrote:


On 2002-06-23 12:28, Greg wrote:
I think the Trial is closer to 80% complete.
Seeing as though there are like 7/9 levels available (according to trial players). I have no Idea where you got 40% -_-;




Greg. You cannot possibly say it's 80% complete just because of the levels.

The difficulty levels are missing, the final areas of each Episode, challenge mode stages (possibly new ones for Episode 2), battle mode stages (possibly new ones for Episode 2), missing boss monsters for VR areas in Episode 2, no offline quests for Episode 2 yet as well as online quests. So, I would think, 40% is pretty accurate as far as to how complete the game is. There's still a hell of alot to be done.




Good work... you sure told him.



Javier_Von_Fenrir: You're tough and cool.

Wata: I believe all thoes things exist but were removed from the Trial as to not make it too complete. For instance PC FPS games will have network betas that include 2-4 maps and no offline experience a month or two before the release. I think it would be silly to think that they program all of that and QA it that quickly. Aside from that MOST of PSO in in there the only difference between the difficulty levels is enemy stats (aside from a palet swap in ULT which may or may not exist). The same goes for Challange and BA, it's simply variations of existing rooms assembled in a different order (that is why I think a map builder would be easy for an Xbox version, however it's a 1/10,000 chance of seeing that come about.) If so many of the characters and stages were not in the trial then I would be more inclined to believe the 40% estimate, however with the short amount of time remaining to create a final build I think it is closer to 80% with some key aspects missing. Hell, who would want the challange maps online before you could even play it? http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[HeeroX]

there's 10 levels in all.

Forest
Cave
Mine
Ruins
Vr Temple
Vr Spaceship
Central Factory
coast
high mountain
jungle

[Last_Saiyan]

I know the last Boss will be a Possesed fusion of metal and Biological Evilness!!! Falz will take over Kireek's body and you'll be fighting an 80 ft Android, spewing fire and missiles. All damages will be reduced by half and all techs will heal his arse!!! Muahahahahah, yeah...lame I know.

[watashiwa]

On 2002-06-24 12:16, HeeroX wrote:
there's 10 levels in all.

Forest
Cave
Mine
Ruins
Vr Temple
Vr Spaceship
Central Factory
coast
high mountain
jungle



LOL, no, you are WRONG.

There's 8 levels.

Episode 1:

Forest,
Caves,
Mines,
Ruins (Removed from the Trial).

Episode 2:

VR Sanctuary,
VR Temple,
Central Factory (Includes Jungle, High Mountain, and Coast),
???.

??? = Area not shown in Trial. The bosses for the VR Sanctuary and VR Temple were also removed from Trial.

[Parn]

On 2002-06-24 12:16, HeeroX wrote:
there's 10 levels in all.

Forest
Cave
Mine
Ruins
Vr Temple
Vr Spaceship
Central Factory
coast
high mountain
jungle


Actually, here's a better way to look at it overall.

Episode I

Forest 1
Forest 2
Boss: Dragon (Native)

Caves 1
Caves 2
Caves 3
Boss: De Rol Le (A. Beast)

Mines 1
Mines 2
Boss: Vol Opt (Machine)

Ruins 1
Ruins 2
Ruins 3
Boss: Dark Falz (Dark)

Total Areas in Episode I: 10
Total Bosses in Episode I: 4


Episode II Trial

VR Spaceship

VR Sanctuary

Central Factory
- Jungle 1
- Jungle 2
- Mountain
- Beach
Boss: Gar Griffon (A. Beast)

Total Areas Revealed: 6 (7 if you want to argue the factory)
Total Bosses Revealed: 1

I think there's much more that has yet to be seen. I'm thinking, more unique stages. You have to clear four areas just to GET to the griffon (arguably six), it could well be possible that similar means are needed to get to other bosses (assuming there are more of course).

This is yet more speculation on my part, though I'm sure some might like to argue this like they do with my speculation about PSO Xbox. *cough*

[Greg]

While interesting in theory parn, I doubt that sonic team will make PSO THAT big. However it would be nice http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[Golvellius]

Is one of those levels a crashed Pioneer 2? Oh, please say yes ^_^

[HeeroX]

You guys are hopeless. There are 3 areas in central factory. After completing them you unlock a portal which leads you to the Jungle Cost and High mountain. And there are 10 levels. I'm talking about the Final Version. Not the trial. You guys doubt me to much. lol.

[Rubesahl]

On 2002-06-24 15:48, Golvellius wrote:
Is one of those levels a crashed Pioneer 2? Oh, please say yes ^_^



I think the one you're talking about is VR Spaceship

[VariantXL]

Well since VR space ship and sactuary are on pioneer 2...

And Central factory is composed of 4 sub areas there could still either be at least 1 more zone with sub areas leading to a boss.

[TeamPhalanx]

A little off-topic here but...

Crashed Pioneer 2? Did I miss something? Did something happen that resulted in Pioneer 2 crashing?

[VariantXL]

PIONEER 2 DID NOT CRASH. the monsters in the spaceship are vr simulations.

[chaodragonb]

Well, DF is a big softy, just break out a pallasch, or raygun and blast him away!

[Parn]

On 2002-06-24 14:16, Greg wrote:
While interesting in theory parn, I doubt that sonic team will make PSO THAT big. However it would be nice http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif


What's funny is that I'm opening myself up for a big disappointment with yet more of my stupid speculating. =P

[ShadowNeo]

Don't forget about the ultimate mode level variations - who knows what they will look like ^_^.

[HEP2O]

ep1 boss=dark falz

ep2 boss= big malz , falz older brother but looks the same just with higher tech resist and more hp http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[HeeroX]

This is very off topic. lol. But for those of you who don't know. The levels are now Normal
Hard
Vhard
Ultimate
Extreme
(extreme is in the full version)

[Parn]

This just in. Not only is HeeroX telling the truth, but I also just did his mom. More at 11:00.

[Sleet1]

HAAHAH. You guys crack me up! i think naming it Extreme would be a tad bit boring.

[ShortWhiteHUmar]

Pow pow PARN! Pow pow PARN!

Sorry... I know that was off topic, but I saw the name Parn and I just had to say that.. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif (people that haven't seen lodoss war may not understand...)

[Greg]

On 2002-06-25 12:20, Parn wrote:
This just in. Not only is HeeroX telling the truth, but I also just did his mom. More at 11:00.



I get sloppy seconds!
P.S. there is a level after extreem called fantastic mode where all the monsters eat punch and pie with you.

[jonny-5]

Extreme mode? Is this a joke?

[Greg]

On 2002-06-25 14:56, jonny-5 wrote:
Extreme mode? Is this a joke?



No, just a bunch of BS

[Moo2u]

On 2002-06-25 13:30, Greg wrote:


On 2002-06-25 12:20, Parn wrote:
This just in. Not only is HeeroX telling the truth, but I also just did his mom. More at 11:00.



I get sloppy seconds!
P.S. there is a level after extreem called fantastic mode where all the monsters eat punch and pie with you.



Sweet...pie...http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[TeamPhalanx]

Well, if they raised the level limit to 300, an extreme mode would be feasible...

Getting back to the topic on hand, maybe there isn't a "final" boss. I mean, it wouldn't be all that bad if there were only area bosses.

[Wewt]

If the game allowed the level to reach 300, the game would need alot more new features.

[PlatinumGame]

I heard from my cousin's best friend's barber' drug dealer's girlfriend's pimp's brother's son's friend's uncle's boss who is good buddies with Yuji Naka say you can never stop leveling up. No max level and there are meany more features you'll n00bz will never see because they are secret.

Seriously, the max level needs to stay out 200 because anything past that is ridiculous.




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[VariantXL]

very true, the structure of the game would make a higher level than ultimate really insane when you cannot exceed lvl 200. That and ud have to be getting like at least 1000 exp for normal enemies seeing as it takes an insane amount of time to get to lvl 200.

[Sleet1]

it IS max lv 200...on the Official Pics there were 4 lv 200's fighting the griffon and when Ver2 was about they had the exact same picture but just in ult mode. highest lv is Most likely 200 still

[Greg]

Hopefully they alter the EXP system then because getting to lvl 200 is like hitting lvl 100 on easy... a big waste of time and a major pain in the ass.

[PlatinumGame]

On 2002-06-25 20:18, Sleet1 wrote:
it IS max lv 200...on the Official Pics there were 4 lv 200's fighting the griffon and when Ver2 was about they had the exact same picture but just in ult mode. highest lv is Most likely 200 still




And your point is?

[Sleet1]

My point is that the highest lv is 200. People where talking about that... maybe you should READ the fucking posts?

[PlatinumGame]

Huh? I think people where reading the posts. No need to use that foul language kid.

[Greg]

a picture is no indication of the max level. For all we know sega could have dropped it back to 100 for the final.

[Sleet1]

well if they did why is it level 200 on the pics? The pics are official. it is lv 200.

[Greg]

On 2002-06-25 23:47, Sleet1 wrote:
well if they did why is it level 200 on the pics? The pics are official. it is lv 200.



Dude if you see me holding a $20 bill does that mean I only have $20? Personally I only remember seeing shots of the xbox version with level 200 characters but even if the GC shots had them it indicates nothing. That was an early build of the game. MAybe sega decided they did not like the level 200 dynamic. While there verywell be a max level of 200 you need to learn not to make assumptions based upon one picture.

[HAYABUSA-FMW-]

Yatta indeed Greg with Racaseal avatar!
I saw this on page one but here goes anywho:

PSO BASKETBALL!!!

Someone make that in the games PLEASE. Soccer would've been nice if it was soccer not run into the ball again and again. Now basketball is another worldwide sport and would'nt it be great to have super human agility as a android and dunk like crazy over the HUnewearls and FOmars.

PSO Basketball...PSO Basketball...PSO...

[TeamPhalanx]

It's almost a sure thing that the level cap will be at lv 200. If it isn't, they would have to change a lot of things from v2 (stat increase, stat requirements for weapons, etc).

[watashiwa]

On 2002-06-26 10:16, TeamPhalanx wrote:
If it isn't, they would have to change a lot of things from v2 (stat increase, stat requirements for weapons, etc).



They've already changed that stuff if some of the Trial stuff goes to Final. Starting stats as well as level gains have been altered once again.

[TeamPhalanx]

I guess it wouldn't be all that bad if lv 200 wasn't the limit. Assuming that it's a lot easier to reach to max level, something that was out of reach for most PSO players in v2.