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Sagasu
Sep 13, 2004, 07:48 PM
Alright, I haven't written a rant on this forum before, or at least I don't remember doing so. But first things first,

I'm not here to get advice, I just need to explode.

I don't want your pity, I don't need words of wisdom. I need to write this down, get out my anger and clear my head, and this will do just nicely. This is sort of a one thing leading to another, so bear with me, this is going to be a long one.

I have a habit of being highly pessimistic. I'll point out both the humiliating and the unnoticed, I'll try to take it upon myself to correct what I see as flawed. I know this is a terrible thing to get myself into, but heres something else. I tend to procrastinate on things, projects, questions, whatever. I realize what I'm doing, but I find myself too damned hot headed to accept this (though a lot of the times I am right.). Now this has taken an effect upon my status in the family.

I have two younger sibling, sweet and docile 10% of the time, fucking annoying the next 90%. Now it is my duty as the older brother to at least try to help them learn right from wrong(i use this term very lightly). So living at my fathers house, my stepmother and father are very busy for most of the day. My dad has a regular job as an editor for a mining company, nice salary and all, but it eats up a lot of his time. My stepmother's job requires her to get up at 5:30 every hellish morning to update a news article by noon. She has to search through hundreds of web-sites to gather her info, and then write her own stuff. So by the time she's done, the poor woman is very, very tired.

So it naturally falls upon two peoples heads to look after the children during this time. My oldest brother, and myself.

Let me take a moment to explain my families status. My other brother is also older than me, and lives with my mother. I had to make a choice, go with my mother and fight my way through public school; Or my father, and teach myself what I know via homeschool. Freedom is my lover, so I'd be damned to stick myself in a public institution longer than I had to. Thus meaning I dropped out of middle school at the end of the seventh grade and join my father out in the great nowhere of winsconsin. No friends, no towns closer than a mile away, I basically am holed up in my room and get my social interactivity through the net. So yeah, I find courses of physics, nano-tech, languages etc. on the web and download them to my computer. So I'm on psow almost all day, working, whatever. I'm 13, and probably the most responsible out of my siblings. The next brother up is 15, he lives with my mom; The guy has no self conciousness, he'll stumble into people and such, and acts goofy all the time. Hes into drama and such, and public school doesn't bother him causse he can get along with most people sine he's so easy going. For the same reasons, he and I have had some very nasty arguements, another reason why I chose to live away from him. My oldest bro is 17, the artist. You often find him staring off into space and singing black sabbath and the like, his usuall absent mindedness often causes him to be careless, and do things that annoy the shit out of everyone. We've fought a lot as well, and yet again we've been on eachothers side backing eachother up. So meh, I don't care for them much.

I am smack dab in the middle of the five of us, and its a position I take no relish from. My parents are fond of all of us, despite what we do or think. But they are also extremely talented individuals, with strong principals. The three of us, 13, 15, and 17 (to avoid using real names), being the sons of one mother, were the first children my dad ever had. So of course, mistakes in his parenting are corrected and revised for my younger two siblings. "strict' is how you may call our up bringing. And I can say I fought the rules tooth and nail all the way. They also have some high expectations of us. My mother, a wonderfull mathematician, has graced us with her genes. While my father, a writer and freedom fighter, also made us speak his name with some pride. So naturally, I've got some expectations to live up to. The first eight years of my life were lived with my father, advanced learning, advanced thinking, ect. Not many friends, but fertile ground for learning. At my mothers, my real social life began. Public school, girlfriends, rivals, fights, making my mother cry because I couldn't just let my opinion rest while I was oppressed on all sides. This began my writing interest, helping me flower to what I am now. I'll be honest with myself, I think I'm pretty damned good for 13.

So back to the rant. Middle child then, youngest before. All sorts of misconceptions developing angst, the average yip yap. But heres the catch Angsty filled I was, I started to become my own distinct person. I'm not modeled off of my parents, or my brothers, or my peers. I simply am I who I am. Cynicall, demoralizing, thought filled person, (somewhat like my father in those respects) Smart (I'm tired of being humble, want me to preach to ya bitch?), aware of my self image, and influenced by emotions (somewhat like my mother). But I am also cocky, and willing to go out of my way for others. My brothers piss me off because they can't see 6 inches in front of their faces, and I'm usually the one to take it upon myself to solve the aftermath. Blah, I try hard to help my family, and I do, I just can't do everything for them, so naturally I'm going to feel as If I've failed. I'm a sore loser, I'll admit this openly. But I like to make my stepmother smile when shes about to erupt from stress, I like to make my father feel like I've progressed with my skills, and make him feel proud. Yet my attitude often causes veiled arrguements. My father will sometimes joke about our bad habits, and we'll joke back. But I'm done fooling around.

Over the few months that I've been with my father again, I've been tolf repeatedly to mind my own buisiness or "stop busy bodying you brother, if you want to act that way you can make your own children" First, we live in the same damned house. I'm sorry, but I'm not fucking putty in your hands. I dont bend backwards or in loops to make myself fit the puzzle.

This amongst other things are starting to pile up, and become jokes no more. I recognize my flaws, but they're fatal, I'm sorry. I was raised the way I was, I cannot simply 'will' myself to stop my behaviour. Today at the dinner table, we got into a similar discussion about bossing my brother around "Your not his father, leave your brother to me" I hate that shit. I deal with YOUR children for a good portion of the day, am I just supposed to let them walk over me and tell you about it later? Fuck no. I took my food upstairs before I spouted hostile words, and here I am. Trying to figure out just what I'm going to do about myself and my family.

What I need is my own home, my own job, my own life. I tried living with my mom, we're not soulmates, after a time our flaws drive us apart. Same thing goes for my father. And what do you do if you cannot live in peace? Leave, don't just let your habits rub together and make friction that may catch fire.

Okay, so I want my own home. I'm a fucking 13 year old. I'm in the middle of farmland. I've tried looking for work around here, but its fall and the farmers are now trying to get rid of all the workers they've gathered over the summer, and the nearest job offering in town is at a gas statioon (I'd have to lie about my age to be accepted anyway.)

I'm willing to work hard, they're not willing to accept this. Farmland isn't exactly the most fruitful place for job openings. I've basically lived most of my life secluded, so I'm not sure of the places I would go elsewhere for work. At this point and time I don't care If I have to just work my ass off to afford rent on a cheap apartment, I'd go to sleep on my own bed, and for this fact I would be happy. I know what its like to work hard, I've done ranch work, farm work, construction, lots of stuff. I can write a good essay on almost any subject given to me, I can write you a good novel if I had a devotion (knowing I could sell it, practicing new skills, etc.)

But I'm stuck. Stuck here with this family, with this life, stuck with myself. So I either need to come up with a plan for my self, or cope with the fact things cannot be perfect. So blah, meh, fuck shit damn. Thats my situation, and I'm being serious about it. I'd give it all up just to be alone, and supporting myself.

And I'm sick of it. Sick and tired, begging for a change.

[/rant of a teenage angsty anarchist/athiest]

Sorry about that, I just really, really needed to vent.

Scrub
Sep 13, 2004, 08:39 PM
If it makes you feel better, even if it doesn't, hear it is:

You sound like a wonderful person. I could never take on such responsibilities, as I'm...not a wonderful person. You deserve a life where you can live with your parent(s), and not get screwed over later in life because you decided to leave them.

Bradicus
Sep 13, 2004, 09:18 PM
I won't try to deflate you. You're one smart motherfucker for your age. I'm glad you know it.

Sometimes we just need to slog through these times in our lives. A few years may seem like an eternity to you, but you will need them. Even as advanced as you are, you still won't be ready for the world for quite some time.

When the life has you down, or when your brothers are being asshats, just remember that you are smarter than them, and that your time will come. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

ABDUR101
Sep 13, 2004, 09:30 PM
I felt the same when I was 13 and 14, except instead of little brothers, I had nephews.

I dropped out of 9th grade though, then afew years later I started working in physical/occupational therapy, typing contracts for facilities and employees as well as working in the facilities as an aide, it's been over three years since then and hopefully in October when we get another facility, I got first dibs to be Program Manager for it's therapy department.

Be glad you're as smart as you are, and I'm sure you have it in you to keep pulling yourself higher on the ladder to get a better foothold on things.

You most likely have figured out that during the next few years, you more or less have to cope with things, and more or less submit to whats going on around you. You have no immediate control over what will happen with family, you realise that I'm sure, so just go with the flow. I'm sure there's a lesson to learn in this situation as well.

Hang in there, as there's nothing else to do, so sit back and enjoy the ride for what it is. =]

Aredhel
Sep 13, 2004, 09:33 PM
...just because you deserve something, though does not mean that you'll get it. The world is a cruel, unforgiving, unyielding place filled with amoral, pseudo-persons who would love to rape you of many things, namely your individuality and dignity. Not to say that all people are this way, or that all people even try to be this way, but it just so happens that the effect of living with such people will drain you of all vitality and knowledge and feeling as you coalesce toward this prescribed cosmic awareness we so ignorantly know as God. As such, you must always strive to surround yourself with people that will make you happy. This will be difficult for you, Sagasu, as you are far different than the staus quo for peers the age of 13 - if you are telling the truth about your age, then you are a very advanced human being in regard to societal standard - not an necessarily an advanced being, mind you, but you exhibit great wisdom and ambition far superior to people your age. You are entering a stage in your life that is unavoidable and must be addressed and dealt with in the most thorough way possible. You said it yourself in my "Swoon" thread - hormones are funny things.

I'm not giving you a solution, as it would seem presumptuous and arrogant on my part to assume that your life can be solved. I'm merely restating what you can expect to be observed from those you will interact with in years to come. After all, living is about interacting, and without other people's consideration, the 'you' defined by me does not exist.

Where's Quo at? http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Sagasu
Sep 13, 2004, 09:46 PM
I do thank you for your comments, the truth is often clouded, espescially in times of trial.

But heres the arrogant side of me coming out again.

Untill I've been beaten I won't submit. I know what I want, I'm going to persue it. Waiting games have never been my strong point, and I doubt it will change for this. Pressure is beggining to build, so I want to let it out before I do something stupid. Like you said, horomones. Like you said, the world is full of humans, and you never can tell with them.

So yes, I want to live my life, and I want to live it in happiness. But sitting in this house, watching the pressure build, just letting my pride wither, just submitting to the fact that I'm thirteen.. Well, thats not going to happen. I may not be able to hold my own just yet, but I'll never learn if I never try.

I don't like losing, I don't like fighting with my family, and the last thing I want is for us to be torn apart. But seperation is called for, for I'm selfish. And a selfish man can't learn to live with others if he's never been on his own.

*shrugs*

Thanks all, I guess this is just something I need to figure out for myself.

WraithVerge
Sep 13, 2004, 09:57 PM
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Jokes aside, I agree; you're gifted with much intellect at such a young age. However, that can be a bane somewhat as you are seeming to become a xenophobe (living in the middle of no where doesn't help the social life either, and I sympathize with you there) since quite possibly many of your peers are still immature and thus you feel different. And as you've said, parents/adults still see you as immature, callow, whatnot. All I can really say is keep working towards your goals man.


Just have to ride out the storm.


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Sagasu
Sep 13, 2004, 11:14 PM
Meh, this isn't the only tension going on in the family.

There are some other difficulties that just seem to be seperating us all. Me from them, them from eachother. So at this point I'm not sure if holding on to the cracking picture will help save it, or add the pressure nessesary to shatter it.

My dad and I had a conversation a few minutes ago, the first part was regarding the dinner incident. The morale 'nobody likes to be judged' so yeah, guilt trip all over again. Don't get me wrong, I love my family, but things are changing. And right now it looks like its getting worse.

Followed up by a conversation about love, oooo. Fun, nah. Its was depressing, my dad and step mother love eachother dearly, but they've been changing over the years (We never stop now do we?) So meh,

And I'm about ready to murder the guys who said that "Its easier to run." Just thinking about it is a bloody difficult task.

Daikarin
Sep 14, 2004, 03:31 AM
Young dude, exercise yourself for the world.

Most people say that the world is a cruel place. The world is the world, cruel is only a way of painting it.

You know better than me how smart you are, how talented you are.

Don't waste those gifts you have by confining yourself from the world. That's selfish, considering that there are people out there that would give their left nut in exchange for half a load of good brains to enter college, or even take a course.

Exercise, ride a bike, rollerblade, jog, enter some sort of martial art or some activity to get your head off your life for a few minutes.

I too am the oldest of the three, and I have to look out for my family's annoyiances (Where's that damn dictionary?). The trick is to set yourself free from the war zone, in order for you to get some brain equilibrium and regain energy, by spending some time for yourself.

And online... Well, it sort of limits someone, right? That's why I stopped the fanfiction.

And dude, never say you don't need anyone's advice and help. Human beings are meant to socialize. We have ears to listen, mouth to talk, heart to feel conforted.

But I do value your effort on not looking like a suck-puppet to other's pity. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

I wish you the best.

Aredhel
Sep 14, 2004, 08:44 AM
On 2004-09-14 01:31, Even_Jin wrote:

enter some sort of martial art or some activity to get your head off your life for a few minutes.



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I think that someone with your potential could give the martial arts community some much needed insight - wherever you go, you take it with you. It's a knowledge and a skill free from all others, easily taught and learned but rarely mastered - the martial arts could give you some excellent focus in your life right now. You don't necessarily have to go to a school to learn it either - you of all people should know that - buy or D/L a book, try it out.

Whenever my life was just too much to handle because of deadlines, work, school, etc... walking onto the Dojang floor was ALWAYS a purge of negativity. I taught class to the best of my ability and was made a better person for it - going for 4 hours each night would tire me out so much, I didn't have the energy to think about my problems - thus they failed to affect me, and that, my friend, is a state of bliss. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

Anubis_
Sep 14, 2004, 10:37 AM
I don't mean to give you advice, but I will anyway. And you need to listen to this, wheather you read this or not..

I hate you and I like you...

I hate you because you sound way to fuckin smart to not take public school seriously.. (dont say you do, cause I can tell you don't)

And I like you cause you sound really wise for a kid your age. And intelegence and wisdom don't walk hand in hand..


I cannot simply 'will' myself to stop my behaviour.

Ha!!!, Thats a bunch of bullshit, Yes you can, You just haven't learned to yet, You will in time..

And Dont worry about getting your own place. Life gets shity sometimes but, Some times its better to wade through the shit than to rough it on your own.
Not to discourage you from getting your own place, but I'm not worried about that cause you don't seem like the type of guy that would stay in his parents place till he's 30 anyway..

I'm not trying to condesend to you because of your age or anything, but your way to young to be stubborn.

Call me retarded but thats the way I see it.

Sagasu
Sep 14, 2004, 03:23 PM
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I do excersise, a lot in fact. I've been doing martial arts since the ripe age of six, switching between masters and such as I moved about. I learned to work myself to exhaustion from one of them, military guy, had been in the martial arts buisiness since his early childhood. So I do constantly work-out, mornings and nights, and for a few hours afterwards I am quite numb.

But my mind is always quick to recover, and active as ever. Teaching myself or some other mind abosrbing task also helps, but just like any human, you get both mentally and physically drained. Yet more and more often, I keep getting distracted from my studies, from my training, because of the problems. Even though most of the time I am quite confident with my abilities, there's always the hint of fear, the drop of doubt. And stressfull situations tend to nurture such things inside of you, untill they become almost constant. Depression, angst, ect.

And I cannot simply shut myself away from them for long periods of time, not even for days. We are, as a family, falling apart. Right now its almost like a stand still, were all fond of one another, but we wont force a situation that makes our differences clash and turn into conflict. So I'm not exactly trying to support them entirely and give myself to the task of mental glue, but I am trying to make things go smoothly as possible, for better or for worse.

I'm not self absorbed enough to not realize I am part of this family, and I get the feeling if it breaks, I'll break with it. My parents divorced when I was 9 months old, so I don't have much of a choice. But the last things my little bro and sis (4 and 6 years old) go through a divorce. I know it won't be my fault if it happens, I know my coming here about seven months back didn't cause all of this, but the last thing I want is for things to fall apart again.

But thinking to myself, theres nothing that I can do about the situation. Just watch things pass, and hope for the best.

So the reality of the situation is that I cannot ignore the situation, at least not for long. Just speaking to my father last night made this all clear to me. If they break now it won't be my fault, at my age I'm fucking helpless to this world. Your parents are supposed to be your support right? How can you cling to something so feeble?

Meh, fingers crossed and all..

But theres not much else I can say.

Shattered_weasel
Sep 14, 2004, 07:20 PM
Damn Sagasu you are one smart kid. Hell I got some years on you and wouldn't be able to produce that. This is why I am not gunna give you a paragraph like everyone else has but I am going to tell you something.

We have all probably felt like this. Now don't take this the wrong way but puberty has takin a hold of ya. You are starting to act "somewhat" of an adult, making your own decisions and such.

Now I hope you get your life to a happy medium.

Peace out you sexeh FO