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Endu
Sep 18, 2004, 05:11 AM
I was just wondering how does Donoph equip a Zanba when he is only a level 40 does sonic team make some, change's to Donoph to make him equip the Zanba so early.

Saffran
Sep 18, 2004, 06:20 AM
He's a NPC, he can do ANYTHING. For all we know, he could have eaten 250 power mats and have a 15/185/0/0 mag hidden up his... sleeves.

Endu
Sep 18, 2004, 09:02 AM
Yeah your proble right about that but doesn't some people try to hack into the NPC online and try to use them.

Genoa
Sep 20, 2004, 07:58 PM
Another great example could be how KIREEK at lvl 36 can use Soul Banish. And yes, it is Soul Banish. Not Soul Eater.

Or how Bernie at ... er, I think it's lvl 16 can equip Flame Visit.

As already said, NPC's are "special"

kazuma56
Sep 21, 2004, 07:26 PM
Bernie could have 4 God/arms.... and Kireek could have 4 god/powers....

Quo
Sep 21, 2004, 07:34 PM
On 2004-09-21 17:26, kazuma56 wrote:
Bernie could have 4 God/arms.... and Kireek could have 4 god/powers....



Or, as was previously stated, NPCs can do anything.

There's a HUnewearl in. . .erm. . . Graves Butler I think. . . anyway, she has a rifle type weapon equiped. Megid doesn't effect NPCs. Traps don't effect NPCs. Hell, Donoph can teleport. NPCs can do whatever they like.

Short answer: don't ask questions.

shingo
Sep 21, 2004, 07:55 PM
i dont under stand it ethier

Quo
Sep 21, 2004, 08:07 PM
On 2004-09-21 17:55, shingo wrote:
i dont under stand it ethier



What's to not understand. ST programs Donoph to weild the Zanba. Therefore, Donoph weilds the Zanba. NPC don't follow the same rules players do.

Genoa
Sep 21, 2004, 08:20 PM
On 2004-09-21 17:26, kazuma56 wrote:
Bernie could have 4 God/arms.... and Kireek could have 4 god/powers....



4 God/Arms = +50 ATA. At lvl 16, his ATA should be around 93. 50+93=143. No MAG for boost. Requirement for Flame Visit: 164 ATA. I don't think so.

4 God/Powers = +200 ATP. Lvl 36, his ATP should be around 391. Seeing he doesn't have a MAG, it's not like he gets a boost from that. 391+200=591. Requirement for Soul Banish: 850 ATP. Again, I don't think so.

IamBob
Sep 21, 2004, 09:55 PM
megaman u have way too much time on ur hands

Gynn_Rei
Sep 22, 2004, 01:24 AM
On 2004-09-21 18:20, MegamanX wrote:


On 2004-09-21 17:26, kazuma56 wrote:
Bernie could have 4 God/arms.... and Kireek could have 4 god/powers....



4 God/Arms = +50 ATA. At lvl 16, his ATA should be around 93. 50+93=143. No MAG for boost. Requirement for Flame Visit: 164 ATA. I don't think so.

4 God/Powers = +200 ATP. Lvl 36, his ATP should be around 391. Seeing he doesn't have a MAG, it's not like he gets a boost from that. 391+200=591. Requirement for Soul Banish: 850 ATP. Again, I don't think so.



4 God/Arms = +60 ATA. At lvl 16, his ATA should be around 93. 60+93=153. No MAG for boost. Requirement for Flame Visit: 164 ATA. Maybe he has somekind of ata boosting shield on?

Genoa
Sep 22, 2004, 05:04 AM
On 2004-09-21 23:24, Gynn_Rei wrote:


On 2004-09-21 18:20, MegamanX wrote:


On 2004-09-21 17:26, kazuma56 wrote:
Bernie could have 4 God/arms.... and Kireek could have 4 god/powers....



4 God/Arms = +50 ATA. At lvl 16, his ATA should be around 93. 50+93=143. No MAG for boost. Requirement for Flame Visit: 164 ATA. I don't think so.

4 God/Powers = +200 ATP. Lvl 36, his ATP should be around 391. Seeing he doesn't have a MAG, it's not like he gets a boost from that. 391+200=591. Requirement for Soul Banish: 850 ATP. Again, I don't think so.



4 God/Arms = +60 ATA. At lvl 16, his ATA should be around 93. 60+93=153. No MAG for boost. Requirement for Flame Visit: 164 ATA. Maybe he has somekind of ata boosting shield on?



*slaps himself* http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif ... oops *math error* but still, he still couldn't wear it. And as far as I know, there isn't a shield that boost ATA. Even so, it would need a boost of +11 ATA. I think if any equipment item other than a Unit or a Mag will barely give a +5 ATA. +10 if your lucky...

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: MegamanX on 2004-09-22 03:05 ]</font>

Gynn_Rei
Sep 22, 2004, 09:55 AM
D-Parts for androids give ATA boost

KveerRaven
Sep 22, 2004, 09:56 AM
Cheese and rice, whatever happened to NPCs CAN DO ANYTHING BECAUSE THEY'RE PROGRAMED TO DO SO!

Gynn_Rei
Sep 22, 2004, 10:12 AM
EASY. We were just speculating if it could possibly be done!

Primrose
Sep 22, 2004, 11:57 AM
Its simple, NPCs are unique and therefore dont follow the same rules. Never asked yourself why enemies keep missing them?



On 2004-09-18 07:02, Endu wrote:
Yeah your proble right about that but doesn't some people try to hack into the NPC online and try to use them.



Yes, and in the Dreamcast versions, there were these cheats that allowed hackers to NOL you, meaning you will be turned into NOL, or any NPC actually, but NOL was the common and first one, thats why people refer to this cheat as NOLing.
It was evil. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif

Fomar0153
Sep 23, 2004, 07:42 AM
i know this is a bit old but if you hack them then they just equip them and donoph has grants and megid but after when you have them on your memory card they can't use their weapons if you un equip them

DezoPenguin
Sep 23, 2004, 08:41 AM
On 2004-09-22 09:57, Primrose wrote:

Yes, and in the Dreamcast versions, there were these cheats that allowed hackers to NOL you, meaning you will be turned into NOL, or any NPC actually, but NOL was the common and first one, thats why people refer to this cheat as NOLing.
It was evil. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif



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