Strongest FOmar Bladed wep

[Split]

I think it's red saber, but Im not sure, and I need to know cos my FOmar Slain is going melee (casting started pissing me off after H mode http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_argh.gif), and im to lazy to go through the whole database looking for it. I'm also probably in denial, since I want it to be 700 or over(RED SABER+78 =ATP +645).Thanx.

[EJ]

twin charkam
Red saber
s-rank twins
Victor axe
G-Assassin saber
Soul Banish

Those are all strong weps for a fomar

[Eihwaz]

In terms of actual ATP? Probably Red Saber+78, with level 30 Shifta, and a mag with like 150 Pow. However, since it's a Saber, it's fairly useless in normal combat.

FOmars should use an S-Rank Twin, Soul Banish, and Red Handgun/Holy Ray. Other useful weapons include, but are not limited to, S-Rank Scythe, Rainbow Baton/Red Slicer/Flight Fan with Hit, Twin Chakram with high %s...

[Gynn_Rei]

Agito 1977 and 1980... best of the Agito's and useable by all characters.

[Split]

On 2004-09-29 13:30, Gynn_Rei wrote:
Agito 1977 and 1980... best of the Agito's and useable by all characters.

okay, another question(since I think Katanas are badass http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif)Would a Yamato +60 be a sensible trade for Agito 1977(even though Agito's rarer)? Thanx.

[Genoa]

On 2004-09-29 13:44, Split wrote:


On 2004-09-29 13:30, Gynn_Rei wrote:
Agito 1977 and 1980... best of the Agito's and useable by all characters.

okay, another question(since I think Katanas are badass http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif)Would a Yamato +60 be a sensible trade for Agito 1977(even though Agito's rarer)? Thanx.


Not really, Yamato is ubber common. If you play Vhard for a decent while, you get... too many of them. Grinding isn't all that hard. I'd keep the Agito.

[Split]

On 2004-09-29 15:06, MegamanX wrote:


On 2004-09-29 13:44, Split wrote:


On 2004-09-29 13:30, Gynn_Rei wrote:
Agito 1977 and 1980... best of the Agito's and useable by all characters.

okay, another question(since I think Katanas are badass http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif)Would a Yamato +60 be a sensible trade for Agito 1977(even though Agito's rarer)? Thanx.


Not really, Yamato is ubber common. If you play Vhard for a decent while, you get... too many of them. Grinding isn't all that hard. I'd keep the Agito.

thats what i thought, i would probly make the same choice. It was kind of a stupid question, since my old char (victim of corruptionT_T) got like 4 of them. Other HU weps sucked tho...*coughs purplenum*

[Split]

On 2004-09-28 20:50, Eihwaz wrote:
FOmars should use an S-Rank Twin, Soul Banish, and Red Handgun/Holy Ray. Other useful weapons include, but are not limited to, S-Rank Scythe, Rainbow Baton/Red Slicer/Flight Fan with Hit, Twin Chakram with high %s...

S rank scythe. I understand its multi hit, but, I mean...ATP+10 and no f**ing grinder? Thats like rushing a mib of vulmers with a flower bouqet. It would be nice if you could explain the benefit of this weapon over a good soul banish, or even a soul eater.

[Eihwaz]

On 2004-09-29 16:18, Split wrote:
S rank scythe. I understand its multi hit, but, I mean...ATP+10 and no f**ing grinder? Thats like rushing a mib of vulmers with a flower bouqet. It would be nice if you could explain the benefit of this weapon over a good soul banish, or even a soul eater.


...you know, you can freaking grind the S-Rank Scythe, right? It's just not noted on PSOW. Fully ground, it's actually about as strong as Soul Banish, but with Soul Eater -ATA.

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[Hrith]

it grinds to 180 so that's 370 ATP total, but as a FOmar, go for Soul Banish, clearly better.

[Gjl]

On 2004-09-30 03:33, Kef wrote:
it grinds to 180 so that's 370 ATP total, but as a FOmar, go for Soul Banish, clearly better.



Yes the ATA on the S-Rank sux0rs, and the Banish is better for bragging rights http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif. Also you can get yourself a Needle instead of 'wasting' an S-Rank on the Scythe.

BTW what the hell is all this talk of Yamatos? You people DO know those things are hunter only and this is a FOmar topic right http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif?

[Malfunction]

Plantain Huge Fan is also a good Partisan. Fatsias aren't all that rare, and the Mystic Water is only about 16 PDs.

[Gynn_Rei]

Agito 1977 is pretty rare and strong, I would never give it away. It's one of the strongest Sabers/Katana's (they do they same thing) as a none Hunter it's a must have otherwise a 1980.

[Hrith]

On 2004-09-30 07:50, Malfunction wrote:
Plantain Huge Fan is also a good Partisan. Fatsias aren't all that rare, and the Mystic Water is only about 16 PDs.
It's Magic Water, and Plantain Huge Fan completely sucks, especially considering it costs 16 PDs that could be used for something MUCH more useful, and the fact that Soul Banish is not really rare in Skyly (sorry, DOG).

[Jarek]

On 2004-09-30 12:51, Kef wrote:
It's Magic Water, and Plantain Huge Fan completely sucks,...and the fact that Soul Banish is not really rare in Skyly (sorry, DOG).



I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that sucked.. o_o

And soul banish isn't that rare in whitill either (same enemy).

Edit..
Sooo many of the same avatar.. u_u



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[Hrith]

Whitill cannot find Soul Banish o_O and the same monster (Delbiter) in Whitill drops Rika's Claw.

[EJ]

It"s so much easier to find a Soul Banish in bluefull since Pw3 came out and have so many deldepth oh so many megid everywhere -.-

[Nai_Calus]

...Or just do SKYLY, which has a bunch of decent drops, and take advantage of the fsckload of Delbiters with a better drop rate for the same thing. >_>

[EJ]

But aren't there more deldepth than delbiters in that quest?

Meh either way it's all up to the person looking for the dam thing.

[Nai_Calus]

On 2004-09-30 21:56, ForceEJ wrote:
But aren't there more deldepth than delbiters in that quest?

Meh either way it's all up to the person looking for the dam thing.



Nope, there are fewer Deldepth than 'Biter. Also, the Deldepth drop rate is nearly double the Delbiter drop rate. ^_^;


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[EJ]

On 2004-09-30 22:03, Ian-KunX wrote:


On 2004-09-30 21:56, ForceEJ wrote:
But aren't there more deldepth than delbiters in that quest?

Meh either way it's all up to the person looking for the dam thing.



Nope, there are fewer Deldepth than 'Biter. Also, the Deldepth drop rate is nearly double the Delbiter drop rate. ^_^;


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Ah, you are right the drop is almost double.

But that didn't stop me from finding one today http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif

[Nai_Calus]

On 2004-09-30 22:06, ForceEJ wrote:

But that didn't stop me from finding one today http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif



Burn. ~_~ Any %? Lucky punk. And my HL runs out Saturday, too. XP No time to look. T_T Time to dig out Hel's memcard and shove him to Seabed. >_>;

[EJ]

On 2004-09-30 22:08, Ian-KunX wrote:


On 2004-09-30 22:06, ForceEJ wrote:

But that didn't stop me from finding one today http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif



Burn. ~_~ Any %? Lucky punk. And my HL runs out Saturday, too. XP No time to look. T_T Time to dig out Hel's memcard and shove him to Seabed. >_>;



-.- only had 5%AB. Tekked to 15%

Wish it had hit though. >.>

[Split]

I looked over the database again, and I found the strongest!! Strangly, its a cane, Evil Curst. But its useless in combat with waves, which is what the areas are made up of mostly, and since its a cane, I'll probably go for soul banish and any of the Agitos that aren't 1991 or 2001. Got some Leveling to do w/ viridia and bluefull (31 and....8 T_T). Thankyou a very lot.

[RicoRoyal]

On 2004-10-01 15:09, Split wrote:
I looked over the database again, and I found the strongest!! Strangly, its a cane, Evil Curst. But its useless in combat with waves, which is what the areas are made up of mostly, and since its a cane, I'll probably go for soul banish and any of the Agitos that aren't 1991 or 2001. Got some Leveling to do w/ viridia and bluefull (31 and....8 T_T). Thankyou a very lot.



It's more useless than you probably think. Get this... it doesn't combo. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_dead.gif It is an utter piece of crap even against single targets. BTW, good luck with the Soul Banish hunt http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_yes.gif.

[Split]

It's more useless than you probably think. Get this... it doesn't combo. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_dead.gif It is an utter piece of crap even against single targets. BTW, good luck with the Soul Banish hunt http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_yes.gif.

[/quote]Thanx, I'll need it. Wow, that is an utter piece of crap. uninteresting crap. I look down on it http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_nono.gif

[Nai_Calus]

Yet Another Reason Pinkal Sucks.

Morning Glory at it's strongest is pretty damn good, but it's a claw, and that's only at it's strongest. >_>;

And still, 15AB > 0/0/0/0. I continue to hate you! :D

[Split]

On 2004-10-01 19:02, Ian-KunX wrote:
Yet Another Reason Pinkal Sucks.

Morning Glory at it's strongest is pretty damn good, but it's a claw, and that's only at it's strongest. >_>;

And still, 15AB > 0/0/0/0. I continue to hate you! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

hey good plan. an I have a whitill HU to get him one since hes only in hard mode.

But Merlans an DD's pwned me every time i went ult ruins http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif


Also...what about Angry Fist? Since its a fist weapon I was just wondering if the animation was any good.

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[Tsudo_Plat]

Well, I'll tell you what my lvl 132 FOmar is using right now, and perhaps you can get an idea of what most of us FOmar/FOmarl users out there are using.

Weapons:
Holy Ray
S-Rank Twin (Berserk Special)
Charge Gatlings (50% on HIT) <-- Can't get Vulcans yet.
Soul Eater
Angry Fist (only when im bored...)

I'm currently trying to get a Fatsia with HIT% so I can turn it into a Plantain Huge Fan. Yes I know that Soul Banish is better and I will get a Soul Banish too, but at this point I would rather have a Plantain Huge Fan with HIT% then the extra 70 Atp. I'm a FOmar so ATA is a serious problem for me. Plus I like how PHF looks compared to Soul Banish.

I'm also trying to find a Slicer-Type with at least 60% on HIT for my Magic Stone "Iritista".... but so far no luck with that... =(

The 1 main thing I can tell you tho, is to try and be original with your character. Don't just go for the strongest weapon based solely on stats. You also need to take in to account your characters attack animations, spell casting speeds, etc. For instance take me for example. I personally don't like the S-Rank Twin. On a FOmar its special misses A LOT and I don't really like the attack animation on males either. So instead I use M&A80 Vices* with 30% Hit. They look cool and you can't really go wrong with mechs. For a partisan I prefer to use my Chameleon Scythe* because I like the looks of my Soul Eater and I like the special better. Its all just what you prefer, because in the long wrong a weapon with 40-50 more ATP is not that big of a difference... go with what you like.

*Note: keep in mind I only use those offline. Online their lack of ATA boost and my FOmars poor ATA make them pretty much useless. >_<

[Gjl]

On 2004-10-02 12:09, Tsudo_Plat wrote:
Well, I'll tell you what my lvl 132 FOmar is using right now, and perhaps you can get an idea of what most of us FOmar/FOmarl users out there are using.

Weapons:
Holy Ray
S-Rank Twin (Berserk Special)
Charge Gatlings (50% on HIT) <-- Can't get Vulcans yet.
Soul Eater
Angry Fist (only when im bored...)

I'm currently trying to get a Fatsia with HIT% so I can turn it into a Plantain Huge Fan. Yes I know that Soul Banish is better and I will get a Soul Banish too, but at this point I would rather have a Plantain Huge Fan with HIT% then the extra 70 Atp. I'm a FOmar so ATA is a serious problem for me. Plus I like how PHF looks compared to Soul Banish.

I'm also trying to find a Slicer-Type with at least 60% on HIT for my Magic Stone "Iritista".... but so far no luck with that... =(

The 1 main thing I can tell you tho, is to try and be original with your character. Don't just go for the strongest weapon based solely on stats. You also need to take in to account your characters attack animations, spell casting speeds, etc. For instance take me for example. I personally don't like the S-Rank Twin. On a FOmar its special misses A LOT and I don't really like the attack animation on males either. So instead I use M&A80 Vices* with 30% Hit. They look cool and you can't really go wrong with mechs. For a partisan I prefer to use my Chameleon Scythe* because I like the looks of my Soul Eater and I like the special better. Its all just what you prefer, because in the long wrong a weapon with 40-50 more ATP is not that big of a difference... go with what you like.

*Note: keep in mind I only use those offline. Online their lack of ATA boost and my FOmars poor ATA make them pretty much useless. >_<



If I remember correctly, Plantain Huge Fan can't combo http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif. Guess it's a LOT weaker than the Soul Banish then http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif.

[Kupi]

Unfortunately, I don't think you remember correctly. The Plantain Huge Fan combos; I know from experience.

[Gjl]

On 2004-10-05 20:55, Kupi wrote:
Unfortunately, I don't think you remember correctly. The Plantain Huge Fan combos; I know from experience.



Well the description in the Item Database says this:
"When you wave this magic fan once, it produces a very strong wind, which blows enemies away."
..but I'll take your word for it.

[Deus-Irae]

pay little attention to item descriptions.

they are often times very misleading. (not that the description you posted on the fan says anything close to "dosent combo" http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif)

[Capricornus]

On 2004-10-06 01:59, Deus-Irae wrote:
pay little attention to item descriptions.

they are often times very misleading. (not that the description you posted on the fan says anything close to "dosent combo" http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif)



I have to agree with deus, it usually doesnt describe the ability of the weapon (sometimes it does, but then your usually bound to guessing, like by example the Agni saying it adds fire dammage)

[Gjl]

On 2004-10-06 01:59, Deus-Irae wrote:
pay little attention to item descriptions.

they are often times very misleading. (not that the description you posted on the fan says anything close to "dosent combo" http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif)



I guess so.

BTW it does say 'when you wave it once.' I thought that sounded like it wouldn't combo.

[Saizero]

To me the Kaladbolg is a strong saber for my Fomar especially when it's grinded to the max.

[Gjl]

On 2004-10-07 10:40, Saizero wrote:
To me the Kaladbolg is a strong saber for my Fomar especially when it's grinded to the max.



To me, it sounds like you've been smoking some strong shit to come up with something like that. Seriously, get yourself a Red Saber or even better a Fo-usable partisan (eg. Soul Banish). Single Target weapons SUCK. http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif.

Soul Banish is the ideal FOmar weapon (especially one with hit%). Maybe the Plantain Huge Fan could make a better multihit melee weapon due to it being easier to get with high hit.

[Genoa]

Anyways... as far as FOmar goes, the MOST damage a FOmar can do, in total from a full combo, would probably come from Shifta lvl. 30 (or a 4 person PB!... yeah), enemy target is Zalured lvl.30, and you are using an S-Rank Twin +250(berserk/spirit/charge).
Ubber pwnage... http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_yes.gif



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[Gjl]

On 2004-10-07 14:50, MegamanX wrote:
Anyways... as far as FOmar goes, the MOST damage a FOmar can do, in total from a full combo, would probably come from Shifta lvl. 30 (or a 4 person PB!... yeah), enemy target is Zalured lvl.30, and you are using an S-Rank Twin +250(berserk/spirit/charge).
Ubber pwnage... http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_yes.gif



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Yeah, except you can't hit for shit with an S-Rank Twin special on a FOmar, unless we're talking about V-hard here http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif. Also, since when could you get Charge specials on an S-Rank?

Anyway charge mechs will almost certainly do more damage per combo with max ATP (9 hits, as opposed to 6 - weapon ATP means jack shit). Plus those can actually have hit%, so you might actually be able to use the special http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif.

[Genoa]

On 2004-10-07 15:08, Gjl wrote:
Yeah, except you can't hit for shit with an S-Rank Twin special on a FOmar, unless we're talking about V-hard here http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif. Also, since when could you get Charge specials on an S-Rank?

Anyway charge mechs will almost certainly do more damage per combo with max ATP (9 hits, as opposed to 6 - weapon ATP means jack shit). Plus those can actually have hit%, so you might actually be able to use the special http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif.


argh, no charge... I forgot (i'm not online)
And I forgot about mechguns. But what has a better chance of hitting, mechguns or twin sabers? We're talking about ranged vs. melee here... melee weapons have more ATA.
But yea, I did do ubber damage with VICE (berserk). Infact I almost screwed myself on ult-Barba Ray that way. I berserked... and all my hits landed! *omg... no way!* But yea, they all landed and I had almost no hp. Then he tentacled me... I had 2hp. *resta* it was all better then http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[PJ]

On 2004-10-07 15:08, Gjl wrote:
Yeah, except you can't hit for shit with an S-Rank Twin special on a FOmar

Try it. You'll hit. It's REALLY not that hard http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif

[Genoa]

On 2004-10-07 16:23, SUPAH_CHAO wrote:


On 2004-10-07 15:08, Gjl wrote:
Yeah, except you can't hit for shit with an S-Rank Twin special on a FOmar

Try it. You'll hit. It's REALLY not that hard http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif


It is more difficult, especially on ultimate. But it also depends if your doing the combo correctly. You can't just start by using the Extra Command, you'll like... never get it that way.

[PJ]

1) I read the special.

2) No one starts a special attack combo with a special attack u_u

[Genoa]

On 2004-10-07 17:00, SUPAH_CHAO wrote:
1) I read the special.

2) No one starts a special attack combo with a special attack u_u


1) just checking, so you do know that extra attacks have a less-accurate rate. And on a FOmar that isn't good.

2) You'd be surprised...

[Split]

On 2004-10-06 01:59, Deus-Irae wrote:
pay little attention to item descriptions.

they are often times very misleading. (not that the description you posted on the fan says anything close to "dosent combo" http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif)

does that mean although the the SJS description says it opens when all techs are used, it really doesnt?

[Split]

On 2004-10-07 10:40, Saizero wrote:
To me the Kaladbolg is a strong saber for my Fomar especially when it's grinded to the max.

I have a Kaladbolg+25, and sometimes I use it for boss battles(dragon and Falz dont need multi hit), but again( http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif saber). The only reason I want a katana is because although awkward, the animation is a bit more flexible and not as straight forward, and if you are able to wield a katana like Agito 1980, you are pretty good and a lot of things will go down in one hit for you anyway. Also there is the badass factor and my obsession with all katanas.(except Yamigarasu)

[Gjl]

On 2004-10-07 19:47, Split wrote:


On 2004-10-07 10:40, Saizero wrote:
To me the Kaladbolg is a strong saber for my Fomar especially when it's grinded to the max.

I have a Kaladbolg+25, and sometimes I use it for boss battles(dragon and Falz dont need multi hit), but again( http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif saber). The only reason I want a katana is because although awkward, the animation is a bit more flexible and not as straight forward, and if you are able to wield a katana like Agito 1980, you are pretty good and a lot of things will go down in one hit for you anyway. Also there is the badass factor and my obsession with all katanas.(except Yamigarasu)



Ugh, I have an Agito 1980 with 20hit, and let me tell you it's awful. The special NEVER works outside of normal mode, it really is that bad. The first hit of a Katana is fast but that's about the only use for Katanas.

[Split]

On 2004-10-08 00:18, Gjl wrote:


On 2004-10-07 19:47, Split wrote:


On 2004-10-07 10:40, Saizero wrote:
To me the Kaladbolg is a strong saber for my Fomar especially when it's grinded to the max.

I have a Kaladbolg+25, and sometimes I use it for boss battles(dragon and Falz dont need multi hit), but again( http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif saber). The only reason I want a katana is because although awkward, the animation is a bit more flexible and not as straight forward, and if you are able to wield a katana like Agito 1980, you are pretty good and a lot of things will go down in one hit for you anyway. Also there is the badass factor and my obsession with all katanas.(except Yamigarasu)



Ugh, I have an Agito 1980 with 20hit, and let me tell you it's awful. The special NEVER works outside of normal mode, it really is that bad. The first hit of a Katana is fast but that's about the only use for Katanas.

Well, I think they're badass, and I FINALLY got one (1991 model, strength is ugh, that why I want 1977), and I'm in hard mines with my FOmar now. Special works fine on sharks and boomas, and it hasnt been too hard on gillchics. However, I really dont give a flyin f**k about the hell special since it almost always misses first and then whatever you're facing lands a hit on you. And I LIKE the animation, so post it on your tradelist, I have a lot of horrible weapons(Flowen's Sword AUW...the one whitill finds)that I can trade you for it.