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Dominitrus
Oct 3, 2004, 10:25 AM
Got to ULT a few days ago with my FONEWM, Im really having a hard time killing creatures without using too much fluids in a single room and also add that my foie is 21 and it consume much more TP than my rafoie. so the Queston is this ladies and gentlemen, can I have your opinion on the best tactic I can do in this situation?

Heres His stat if you need it:
HP:499
def:200+
ID: yellowboze
Weapon: Hildebears cane
Frame: Valiant with four slots
Units: Ogrepower ++
Angelmind ++
Dragon HP
Dragon HP
Barrier: forgot/place it later
Mag: Nidra= 6/44/20/130 ( still not sure)

Edit:oops my mag stats were wrong.



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Gynn_Rei
Oct 3, 2004, 10:37 AM
The only thing I can say is, to get yourself some Wizard/Techs or something higher than that, some God/minds, and get the hell to the Caves or the Mines. Forest gives crappy low technique lvls

shingo
Oct 3, 2004, 10:38 AM
just keep on trying and try to lvl up some more

Eanae
Oct 3, 2004, 10:45 AM
Replace thos hp units with mind. If you play the force right, they're useless. Forces are hard to solo in ult difficulty, so I wish you luck. You'll most likely need it.

Dominitrus
Oct 3, 2004, 10:56 AM
On 2004-10-03 08:45, Eanae wrote:
Replace thos hp units with mind. If you play the force right, they're useless. Forces are hard to solo in ult difficulty, so I wish you luck. You'll most likely need it.

I need it indeed because those monsters at the cave keep pounding my bottom everytime. I use the HP units so I cant take a few hits bfeore I die but I'll give your advice a go. Thanks for everyones response.

darthsaber9x9
Oct 3, 2004, 11:07 AM
On 2004-10-03 08:56, Dominitrus wrote:


On 2004-10-03 08:45, Eanae wrote:
Replace thos hp units with mind. If you play the force right, they're useless. Forces are hard to solo in ult difficulty, so I wish you luck. You'll most likely need it.

I need it indeed because those monsters at the cave keep pounding my bottom everytime. I use the HP units so I cant take a few hits bfeore I die but I'll give your advice a go. Thanks for everyones response.



then go back to forest. sil bob gives good enough exp

Hrith
Oct 3, 2004, 11:32 AM
You cannot have a Nidra with 170 Mind.

I say drop those power or mind units for God/HP units and possibly Cure/Paralysis and Cure/Shock, true lifesavers, especially online.

At low levels on a casting force, both HP and Mind units are useful, but if monsters kill you in one hit (500 HP is very low), then get some God/HP (+80).

Hildebear's Cane is not a very good Force weapon, really, but it's even more useless on a FOnewm.

I suggest weapons like Sorcerer's Cane (Yellowboze gets it) or Magical Piece. Psycho Wand or Prophets of Motav are really good, too, but way too rare.

Since you're Yellowboze, you probably have the 9 star wands (Fire Scepter: Agni, Ice Staff: Dagon and Storm Wand: Indra), they're good on a FOnewm for a start.

You might want to hunt some merges, too.
Resta Merge if you have online.
Merges that boosts various Gi and Ra techniques for offline mainly.

If you do not have one of these, check the Item Database.

That's all I can think of for now, until Prim drops by http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

Dominitrus
Oct 3, 2004, 12:26 PM
On 2004-10-03 09:32, Kef wrote:
You cannot have a Nidra with 170 Mind.

I say drop those power or mind units for God/HP units and possibly Cure/Paralysis and Cure/Shock, true lifesavers, especially online.

At low levels on a casting force, both HP and Mind units are useful, but if monsters kill you in one hit (500 HP is very low), then get some God/HP (+80).

Hildebear's Cane is not a very good Force weapon, really, but it's even more useless on a FOnewm.

I suggest weapons like Sorcerer's Cane (Yellowboze gets it) or Magical Piece. Psycho Wand or Prophets of Motav are really good, too, but way too rare.

Since you're Yellowboze, you probably have the 9 star wands (Fire Scepter: Agni, Ice Staff: Dagon and Storm Wand: Indra), they're good on a FOnewm for a start.

You might want to hunt some merges, too.
Resta Merge if you have online.
Merges that boosts various Gi and Ra techniques for offline mainly.

If you do not have one of these, check the Item Database.

That's all I can think of for now, until Prim drops by http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

My bad on the mag stat. I have the AGNI but its weak compared to the Hildebears cane, Those God HP will take time though but as long as it prevents me from dying I'll give it a go.

Well I guess leveling up and Hunting the said equipment is the only way to go, and maybe I could just stay in forest for a while until I can cast my foie comfortably. Thanks man.

Gjl
Oct 3, 2004, 12:27 PM
Why are you using Foie? FOnewms DO have a 30% damage boost to Rafoie and Gifoie you know. Plus those two spells make better use of your TP since they hit multiple enemies.

WHY do you have an Ogre/Power++ equipped? Get rid of it now!

You can use the Hildebear's Cane special attack to cast lvl 1-10 Foie for free, if you're running short on fluids.

With that much HP I think Metal/Bodies are better than Dragon HPs. If you have any of these lying in the bank then make sure you equip them.

Look at Kef's post above me for ideas about what to get in the future (I recommend the CSorc's Cane - 10% TP saving and +20% to all Gi techs, plus it's easy to get. Psycho Wand is way too rare for Yellowboze http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif).

Ketchup345
Oct 3, 2004, 12:37 PM
I would do a quick test, and find out which of the two (HP units or DFP Units) makes you take the least % of damage.

If he is stuck in early Ultimate, and is offline, he can't get either of the two weapons meantioned (Sorceror's Cane or Psycho wand).

Yes, you should be using mostly only Gi* and Ra* techniques, and only use the Cane if you are low on Fluids and don't want to go back to town yet.

Also, do take off the Ogre/Power++, and switch it with a DFP/HP or MST unit.

You may want to consider making a different Mag for castin, such as a 50/0/0/150, or close to that (if you want a special Mag).

And Agni and the other will help your techs more than the Hilde Cane (since the Hilde Cane only booosts Foie, and you will be using mostly only the higher level techs of Gi* and Ra*).

Dominitrus
Oct 3, 2004, 12:57 PM
On 2004-10-03 10:37, Ketchup345 wrote:
I would do a quick test, and find out which of the two (HP units or DFP Units) makes you take the least % of damage.

If he is stuck in early Ultimate, and is offline, he can't get either of the two weapons meantioned (Sorceror's Cane or Psycho wand).

Yes, you should be using mostly only Gi* and Ra* techniques, and only use the Cane if you are low on Fluids and don't want to go back to town yet.

Also, do take off the Ogre/Power++, and switch it with a DFP/HP or MST unit.

You may want to consider making a different Mag for castin, such as a 50/0/0/150, or close to that (if you want a special Mag).

And Agni and the other will help your techs more than the Hilde Cane (since the Hilde Cane only booosts Foie, and you will be using mostly only the higher level techs of Gi* and Ra*).

Oh now I get it, I was getting so attached to the cane that I forgot it only boost my foie, thats bad news for me not able to get the sorcerers cane, I'll just try to find the other weps then and use the agni for now.

I was also considering making other mags specialised in different areas of stats. Its about time I put those unused mags in my storage to use.

The Test you mentioned is a good idea, I'll try it out once I get to play pso. Thanks Ketchup



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ZangBa
Oct 5, 2004, 12:14 PM
On 2004-10-03 08:45, Eanae wrote:
Replace thos hp units with mind. If you play the force right, they're useless. Forces are hard to solo in ult difficulty, so I wish you luck. You'll most likely need it.



ur rite about the hp units but put defence instead and keep away from the monsters